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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32284139 United States 01/26/2013 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember reading one of your other posts about this and I guess not many are seeing the likelyhood of Vollmer. There is just so much wrong with this whole Sandy Hook stuff that it is hard to stay on one subject. Quoting: ParanoiaGirl 32926269 I see it is possible and I believe he would be a great subject considering who he already works for and it is strange that his mom works at the school. Good luck in promoting this as many are too busy pointing out shills and non-shills. A lot of the threads are loaded with people claiming the other is lying. I think they do protest too much. All I did was take the FIRST reports I heard as possible avenues to explore, especially once confronted with the ever-changing impossible story and the bizarre, never-see-before psycho killer named, photos and info shared, and then 'OOPS, we goofed....here's the guy. The first news stories said an AR-15 was taken from the trunk. The police OFFICIALLY deny that (it's even on their website), and yet we have video to the contrary, indicting them and vindicating the first report. Vollmer should have been front and center in the investigation, even if only to rationally retract the first reports. Thus far, no known effort has been made...instead we have a phantom psycho killer who may or may nothave ever even existed. Maybe because nobody said Vollmer's name on TV it's not generating any interest. I can't help that. :( |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32284139 United States 01/26/2013 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If Scott Volmer had a role in this, it was very likely as an "event" coordinator. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838 I mean, after all, that is his job description. It would also have been HIM that was buzzed in by the principal (that was also in the initial reports, when they were saying the shooter was the son of a kindergarten teacher, who walked in and did NOT shoot his way into the building....the police were first reported to have needed to shoot their way in). So he would have been a coordinator AND (literally) the team's foot in the door. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32284139 United States 01/26/2013 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why does everyone keep ignoring this? Quoting: SwanSong 33061244 Here is what I found in a “People Search” Adam Lanza New Haven, CT Lives with: Kathy Lanza Kathy Lanza New Haven, CT Lives with: Cathy Lanza Adam Lanza I did a four hour search on Nancy and there was never anyone by the name of Adam Lanza living with her. How much you want to bet Adam Lanza moves into Nancy’s house with Kathy and Cathy? This is the first mention I've seen of a Kathy/Cathy Lanza, let alone sharing living quarters with 'Adam'. Honestly, I was expecting 'Eve Lanza' to show up somewhere along the line. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5954174 United States 01/26/2013 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just found an article at the Daily Beast - Quoting: ParanoiaGirl 32926269 [link to www.thedailybeast.com] Found it interesting that Adam Lanza had a girlfriend, who of course is missing. He also had a friend, who of course is missing. But the important thing, he also killed someone in Hoboken... "News organizations are trying to be as responsible as possible while still providing details of the tragedy. The narrative being pieced together is that Adam Lanza, who is from Newtown, traveled to a family home in Hoboken, N.J., yesterday, and killed at least one person there before going back to Connecticut. It is believed that one victim is Lanza’s father. Lanza’s girlfriend and a friend are reported missing in New Jersey." Why did they report that he killed someone in Hoboken and what happened to this person? Apparently it isn't his father as Peter Lanza was suppose to have picked up his son's body recently. I would like to know how the media mistakenly reported a murder. Don't you have to have a body? Also, who is the missing girlfriend? This is important because at this point she is the only one that could describe Adam Lanza. The police... "An unnamed police officer told a Fox reporter that Lanza had a “checkered past” and had been a “troubled youth for most of his life,” but would not elaborate because juvenile records are kept confidential." He was a problem for most of his life but no one remembers him? There are more articles saying that Adam had committed murder in NJ, (this one is actually talking about how Ryan was confused for Adam), like the one from the Newtown Patch... "The reports said Lanza, a 24-year-old Quinnipiac University graduate, had murdered someone in his Hoboken apartment and then drove to Newtown, Conn., where he used a .223 caliber rifle to kill 27 people before turning the gun on himself." Wy was the media so quick to say Adam/Ryan murdered someone in New Jersey and where or where did that body go? Yes i am another i live next to Newtown person and I do.. That a.m on local news they did report exactly what you are saying.. they also zoomed in from a helicopter and showed Ryan Lanza in a grey dress like coat, hair parted to the side and glasses.. being put into a connecticut state trooper vehicle by the ct state police .. announcing they had caught ryan lanza the shooter.. same guy as the supposed ryan lanza |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1482838 United States 01/26/2013 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If Scott Volmer had a role in this, it was very likely as an "event" coordinator. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838 I mean, after all, that is his job description. It would also have been HIM that was buzzed in by the principal (that was also in the initial reports, when they were saying the shooter was the son of a kindergarten teacher, who walked in and did NOT shoot his way into the building....the police were first reported to have needed to shoot their way in). So he would have been a coordinator AND (literally) the team's foot in the door. What team? If anybody was 'buzzed in' the school was aware that was the drill scenario. But, sense I only "read an interview" with the principal, she gave a different scenario. Cops go in or do they? Did you see any footage of cops going in and out the front door to the school? Did you see any broken glass? The drill seemed focused primarily along the lines of public management. Information management. Responders not in the know management. Other than that, I don't know what they were "really" training for. Forget about the shooting unless there is proof anybody actually died. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32284139 United States 01/26/2013 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What team? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838 If anybody was 'buzzed in' the school was aware that was the drill scenario. But, sense I only "read an interview" with the principal, she gave a different scenario. Cops go in or do they? Did you see any footage of cops going in and out the front door to the school? Did you see any broken glass? The drill seemed focused primarily along the lines of public management. Information management. Responders not in the know management. Other than that, I don't know what they were "really" training for. Forget about the shooting unless there is proof anybody actually died. Since suspicious people scattered from the building at 9:39 or so, they were part of the 'team'. Whether they were really shooting anyone, or merely pretending to, I do not know, nor do I claim to know. There is plenty of evidence to suggest nobody was shot, but I do not discount the possibility that the shooting did take place. Either way, the story we're getting is BS, and that needs to be proven. I've mostly just been following up all the FIRST reports I heard that day, since those erupted forth before the altered versions of the story started flooding in. And since the first reports of an AR-15 being removed from the trunk have been proven TRUE (and thus the official police claim FALSE), it seems that the earlier the report, the closer it is to the truth (or the correct script...whatever you view it as). |
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HooleyDooley User ID: 1438625 Australia 01/26/2013 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What happened in Hoboken is one of the most under researched areas in my opinion. Not only were we specifically told that murders had occurred there, THEN Ryan Lanza gets taken away in handcuffs, AND THEN the address still gets treated like a murder scene until late in the evening. IMAGE ( [link to cache.daylife.com] ) IMAGE ( [link to static1.demotix.com] ) I firmly believe that Lanza's girlfriend and flatmate were murdered as part of this operation, they must have thought they had Ryan's body to plant at the school, but then when Ryan pops up on facebook pronouncing his innocence they had to rewrite the script and they were stuck with two dead bodies in a Hoboken apartment wondering what to do with them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32284139 United States 01/26/2013 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And since the first reports of an AR-15 being removed from the trunk have been proven TRUE (and thus the official police claim FALSE), it seems that the earlier the report, the closer it is to the truth (or the correct script...whatever you view it as). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32284139 Link? [link to www.youtube.com] Contradicted by CT state troopers during the Carver press conference ('that is not correct' response to reporter's question) and the info currently on the official CT site which only lists a shotgun as being removed (even though the unedited video shows the AR also being removed). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32284139 United States 01/26/2013 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I firmly believe that Lanza's girlfriend and flatmate were murdered as part of this operation, they must have thought they had Ryan's body to plant at the school, but then when Ryan pops up on facebook pronouncing his innocence they had to rewrite the script and they were stuck with two dead bodies in a Hoboken apartment wondering what to do with them. Quoting: HooleyDooley I thought Ryan's girlfriend was replying to him on Facebook when he was posting that it wasn't him that they were talking about on the news. Stress the word 'thought'...I could be mistaken about this. Of course, I haven't heard a word about the missing girlfriend or the dead body or bodies in Hoboken since December 14. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1482838 United States 01/26/2013 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What happened in Hoboken is one of the most under researched areas in my opinion. Quoting: HooleyDooley Not only were we specifically told that murders had occurred there, THEN Ryan Lanza gets taken away in handcuffs, AND THEN the address still gets treated like a murder scene until late in the evening. IMAGE ( [link to cache.daylife.com] ) IMAGE ( [link to static1.demotix.com] ) I firmly believe that Lanza's girlfriend and flatmate were murdered as part of this operation, they must have thought they had Ryan's body to plant at the school, but then when Ryan pops up on facebook pronouncing his innocence they had to rewrite the script and they were stuck with two dead bodies in a Hoboken apartment wondering what to do with them. Wow. I am blown away by these. Proof that they did declare it a crime scene. And I will henceforth stop saying Ryan lived at 1313 Grant street as I heard it on TV but never saw it in print, I now see it was 1313 Grand. Isn't it just? How masonic is that? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1482838 United States 01/26/2013 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I firmly believe that Lanza's girlfriend and flatmate were murdered as part of this operation, they must have thought they had Ryan's body to plant at the school, but then when Ryan pops up on facebook pronouncing his innocence they had to rewrite the script and they were stuck with two dead bodies in a Hoboken apartment wondering what to do with them. Quoting: HooleyDooley I thought Ryan's girlfriend was replying to him on Facebook when he was posting that it wasn't him that they were talking about on the news. Stress the word 'thought'...I could be mistaken about this. Of course, I haven't heard a word about the missing girlfriend or the dead body or bodies in Hoboken since December 14. From what I've gathered the REAL Ryan Lanza facebook was set to private. Therefore, all the info the media pretended to be getting from it in milliseconds from the announcement must be prefabricated. Then immediately there were 7 phony pages opened under the name to confuse the public. Also some fake Adam pages likewise. We really don't know if this was his real page or not. Do we know if Ryan attended his mother's funeral? His brother's? How about Dad? We saw that Peter was said to have picked up Adam's alleged body two weeks later almost. Although some news outlet for some reason said an unnamed person picked it up. A lot of misinfo and disinfo has been released by the media. I expect this to be no different. |
New Age Messiah User ID: 9993365 United States 01/26/2013 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And since the first reports of an AR-15 being removed from the trunk have been proven TRUE (and thus the official police claim FALSE), it seems that the earlier the report, the closer it is to the truth (or the correct script...whatever you view it as). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32284139 Link? [link to www.youtube.com] Contradicted by CT state troopers during the Carver press conference ('that is not correct' response to reporter's question) and the info currently on the official CT site which only lists a shotgun as being removed (even though the unedited video shows the AR also being removed). Thanks. Great vid. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1482838 United States 01/26/2013 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | of 1313 Grand St. Apt. 202. One of these is bound to be the flatmate. [link to www.spokeo.com] I wonder if any are or were missing? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32284139 United States 01/26/2013 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow. I am blown away by these. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838 Proof that they did declare it a crime scene. And I will henceforth stop saying Ryan lived at 1313 Grant street as I heard it on TV but never saw it in print, I now see it was 1313 Grand. Aside from photographs showing the police having taped off the building at that address (whose actual time/date of origin would surely be up for debate), is there any official record of a murder or two taking place at that address on December 13 or 14? |
HooleyDooley User ID: 2363077 Australia 01/26/2013 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I firmly believe that Lanza's girlfriend and flatmate were murdered as part of this operation, they must have thought they had Ryan's body to plant at the school, but then when Ryan pops up on facebook pronouncing his innocence they had to rewrite the script and they were stuck with two dead bodies in a Hoboken apartment wondering what to do with them. Quoting: HooleyDooley I thought Ryan's girlfriend was replying to him on Facebook when he was posting that it wasn't him that they were talking about on the news. Stress the word 'thought'...I could be mistaken about this. Of course, I haven't heard a word about the missing girlfriend or the dead body or bodies in Hoboken since December 14. Possibly, it requires more research, but whatever happened at 1313 Grand St is very very odd, we were specifically told it was a murder scene, then we were told that was just a mistake, but the scene still gets treated as though those first specific-yet-wrong reports were correct. For many, many hours after Ryan Lanza was interviewed and his apartment inspected, the street remained closed as though it was a murder scene. Someone was bumped off there IMO, this info was then fed to the press but Ryan Lanza made them rewrite the script by popping up on facebook to protest his innocence. |
HooleyDooley User ID: 2363077 Australia 01/26/2013 10:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow. I am blown away by these. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838 Proof that they did declare it a crime scene. And I will henceforth stop saying Ryan lived at 1313 Grant street as I heard it on TV but never saw it in print, I now see it was 1313 Grand. Aside from photographs showing the police having taped off the building at that address (whose actual time/date of origin would surely be up for debate), is there any official record of a murder or two taking place at that address on December 13 or 14? No debate that it is night time nor that it was the day of the shooting. [link to newyork.cbslocal.com] |
ParanoiaGirl (OP) User ID: 32926269 United States 01/26/2013 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What team? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838 If anybody was 'buzzed in' the school was aware that was the drill scenario. But, sense I only "read an interview" with the principal, she gave a different scenario. Cops go in or do they? Did you see any footage of cops going in and out the front door to the school? Did you see any broken glass? The drill seemed focused primarily along the lines of public management. Information management. Responders not in the know management. Other than that, I don't know what they were "really" training for. Forget about the shooting unless there is proof anybody actually died. I think the cops did go in the school because some children reported seeing them and hearing bangs, (Not necessarily gun shots). There was a report of broken front door glass AFTER the police arrived. They may have been the ones to break in and that may have been the bangs the kids were hearing. There was a mother on another thread saying that a drill was planned at HER child's school and no parents were allowed on the property or to contact the kids that day. I think Sandy Hook was a SCHEDULED drill and only a portion of the kids came to school, maybe the ones that the parents didn't get the letters. Those are the kids in on the news and in the pictures. Kids that weren't told it was a drill and had no idea what was going on. The firehouse had a few children hanging around. I would say there were no more than 30 children involved and that still sounds like an over estimate. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32284139 United States 01/26/2013 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No debate that it is night time nor that it was the day of the shooting. Quoting: HooleyDooley [link to newyork.cbslocal.com] Rats...a cbslocal page. For some reason, those won't open on my PC...they just overload the CPU and paging file and lock me up. But I won't contest that it was taken on the correct day. But, any word on any crime having taken place at that address at the time? Or has it been chalked up to 'false alarm'? If the latter, then I'd like to know what kind of info they were operating on to go to such great lengths. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1482838 United States 01/26/2013 10:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow. I am blown away by these. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838 Proof that they did declare it a crime scene. And I will henceforth stop saying Ryan lived at 1313 Grant street as I heard it on TV but never saw it in print, I now see it was 1313 Grand. Aside from photographs showing the police having taped off the building at that address (whose actual time/date of origin would surely be up for debate), is there any official record of a murder or two taking place at that address on December 13 or 14? No debate that it is night time nor that it was the day of the shooting. [link to newyork.cbslocal.com] What about the track wheeled thing? What is it and why do you suppose it's there? It's an oddity to me. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24627187 United States 01/27/2013 03:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As this story was breaking a reporter was in the middle of an update and his supervisor cut him off. The reporter kept pushing his supervisor for an answer and the supervisor kept trying to stifle him. This exchange is at the beginning of one of the documentaries on Sandy Hook This could be a critical issue |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24627187 United States 01/27/2013 04:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If Scott Volmer had a role in this, it was very likely as an "event" coordinator. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838 I mean, after all, that is his job description. It would also have been HIM that was buzzed in by the principal (that was also in the initial reports, when they were saying the shooter was the son of a kindergarten teacher, who walked in and did NOT shoot his way into the building....the police were first reported to have needed to shoot their way in). So he would have been a coordinator AND (literally) the team's foot in the door. BINGO |
Nostalgic Rain User ID: 32544708 United States 01/27/2013 04:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you remember the first interview with Marsha Lanza? The one where she was standing outside her front door? I know at the beginning of that interview she stated that at first they were told that Peter and Ryan were also dead. The thought the whole family had been murdered. She even used a family nickname they had for Peter. Now, all the only versions of that video I can find have that part edited out. I know someone on GLP must have an original copy Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1402512 I unfortunately didn't pay much attention to the interview at the time. But who called her and told her that the family was murdered? Why would any police officer notify the next of kin without actually seeing bodies? "Hello Ms. Lanza, don't freak out but we think your family is dead. We don't have proof or any real reason to think this, but you know, it could be possible." She found out through the media. She said the media stated Peter and Ryan had been murdered. I guess I should have been a little clearer on that. She was interviewed on her front doorstep. Here is the video. She refers to Peter as PJ and then explains that's a family nickname. What is strange is she never says Adam. She says Ryan several times and sounds like she is talking about Ryan the entire time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33123581 United States 01/27/2013 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Possibly, it requires more research, but whatever happened at 1313 Grand St is very very odd, we were specifically told it was a murder scene, then we were told that was just a mistake, but the scene still gets treated as though those first specific-yet-wrong reports were correct. Quoting: HooleyDooley For many, many hours after Ryan Lanza was interviewed and his apartment inspected, the street remained closed as though it was a murder scene. Someone was bumped off there IMO, this info was then fed to the press but Ryan Lanza made them rewrite the script by popping up on facebook to protest his innocence. I think Ryan was ransom and the police littering his home was just another show. I think Peter was told by SOMEONE to do something or not do something and that if he didn't comply HIS body would be found in Ryan's apartment - dead. Proof to convince Peter was this show at Ryan's apartment. I think Nancy Lanza's death was also used to convince Peter to do what he was told. Peter Lanza has more answers than anyone and he isn't going to talk, that much I'm sure of. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33123581 United States 01/27/2013 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is the video. She refers to Peter as PJ and then explains that's a family nickname. What is strange is she never says Adam. She says Ryan several times and sounds like she is talking about Ryan the entire time. Quoting: Nostalgic Rain What a beautiful find!!!! Yes, she says all this about RYAN and it's been edited to act like she is talking about Adam. She never admits Adam exists! Thank you for this find! |
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