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Autonomy in the Power Process

 
Lies & Alibis
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Autonomy in the Power Process
From Chapter 7 of the Unabomber Manifesto: Industrial Socirty & Its Future:


"Autonomy as a part of the power process may not be necessary for every individual. But
most people need a greater or lesser degree of autonomy in working toward their goals. Their efforts
must be undertaken on their own initiative and must be under their own direction and control.
Yet most people do not have to exert this initiative, direction and control as single individuals. It
is usually enough to act as a member of a SMALL group. Thus if half a dozen people discuss a
goal among themselves and make a successful joint effort to attain that goal, their need for the
power process will be served. But if they work under rigid orders handed down from above that
leave them no room for autonomous decision and initiative, then their need for the power process
will not be served.
The same is true when decisions are made on a collective bases if the group
making the collective decision is so large that the role of each individual is insignificant"

Anonymous allows you to feel your autonomy, right? You are anonymous.

If you are not familiar with this amazing work, you can make yourself more familiar here:

ftp://rocky.umeoce.maine.edu/users/slade/maine-thesis/example​/Main.pdf

hf

I will continue to use this thread to share the ideas of a very mindful man of integrity, Dr. Theodore Kaczynski.

Any other fans? would love to hear your thoughts....
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We all have the need to feel powerful - may be that would have been a better threat title....

power
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"you can’t make rapid, drastic changes in the technology and the economy of a society
with out causing rapid changes in all other aspects of the society as well, and that such rapid
changes inevitably break down traditional values."
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I am so glad none of you suffer from any psychological problems.
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"you can’t make rapid, drastic changes in the technology and the economy of a society
with out causing rapid changes in all other aspects of the society as well, and that such rapid
changes inevitably break down traditional values."

 Quoting: Lies & Alibis


Agreed.
When the rate of technological progress outpaces the ability of a society to integrate it... shit is going to get fucked up.
'Magically Delicious'
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"Today people live more by virtue of what the system does FOR them or TO them than by
virtue of what they do for themselves. And what they do for themselves is done more and more
along channels laid down by the system. Opportunities tend to be those that the system provides,
the opportunities must be exploited in accord with the rules and regulations, and techniques
prescribed by experts must be followed if there is to be a chance of success."
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"you can’t make rapid, drastic changes in the technology and the economy of a society
with out causing rapid changes in all other aspects of the society as well, and that such rapid
changes inevitably break down traditional values."

 Quoting: Lies & Alibis


Agreed.
When the rate of technological progress outpaces the ability of a society to integrate it... shit is going to get fucked up.
 Quoting: Lucky Charms


I think we are beyond fucked up @ this point
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interesting. You are now obviously a baiting troll shill. My autonomy shall be for the effect of my own reality, not others. As their quest to find their ethos is their own. Who am I to demand their attention, when I understand the need to be heard as an individual, yet still part of humanity as a whole. There must be compassion for life, because it is entagled in you.
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interesting. You are now obviously a baiting troll shill. My autonomy shall be for the effect of my own reality, not others. As their quest to find their ethos is their own. Who am I to demand their attention, when I understand the need to be heard as an individual, yet still part of humanity as a whole. There must be compassion for life, because it is entagled in you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25196431


I am glad you are an intent wizard

I do not want to impose anything

only you can influence your decisions

hf
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You can do anything you like....
as long as it is unimportant.

All the power is within your own hands,
well the ones we decided to put there at least,
but look, it's in your hands, and it's all yours!!!

Last Edited by Lies & Alibis on 01/26/2013 05:33 PM
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"If a change is made that is large enough to alter permanently a long-term trend, then the consequences for the society as a whole cannot be predicted in advance."
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If we all turn into morans the system will not be able to contain us

morans unite!!!

morans
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This original poster is directly quoting, who may or may not be in reality, someone who is a know terrorist. And the implications of his actions and philosophies have the direct correlation with the cold blooded murder of innocents to get his ideologies heard.

This Is Dangerous! Warning, This op is implying, known or unknow, the individual with ideas has the right to end the right to life of others without those ideals, as life is unimportant.
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This original poster is directly quoting, who may or may not be in reality, someone who is a know terrorist. And the implications of his actions and philosophies have the direct correlation with the cold blooded murder of innocents to get his ideologies heard.

This Is Dangerous! Warning, This op is implying, known or unknow, the individual with ideas has the right to end the right to life of others without those ideals, as life is unimportant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25196431


Thank you for making everything upfront, as it is, I have nothing to hide.

hf
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This original poster is directly quoting, who may or may not be in reality, someone who is a know terrorist. And the implications of his actions and philosophies have the direct correlation with the cold blooded murder of innocents to get his ideologies heard.

This Is Dangerous! Warning, This op is implying, known or unknow, the individual with ideas has the right to end the right to life of others without those ideals, as life is unimportant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25196431


Thank you for making everything upfront, as it is, I have nothing to hide.

hf
 Quoting: Lies & Alibis


You cannot be sincere in your post, as you are intelligent. You understand, not the message of, but the eyes of certain parties will be on this thread, insighting terroristic ideologies. So then are you just creating a reason for certain organizations to notice you? Or are you attempting to entrap confused people in a moment of termoil?
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This original poster is directly quoting, who may or may not be in reality, someone who is a know terrorist. And the implications of his actions and philosophies have the direct correlation with the cold blooded murder of innocents to get his ideologies heard.

This Is Dangerous! Warning, This op is implying, known or unknow, the individual with ideas has the right to end the right to life of others without those ideals, as life is unimportant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25196431


Thank you for making everything upfront, as it is, I have nothing to hide.

hf
 Quoting: Lies & Alibis


You cannot be sincere in your post, as you are intelligent. You understand, not the message of, but the eyes of certain parties will be on this thread, insighting terroristic ideologies. So then are you just creating a reason for certain organizations to notice you? Or are you attempting to entrap confused people in a moment of termoil?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25196431


all neither and both depending on yes
i am the furthest thing from intelligence,
but i like you a little more for the flattery
your insight is priceless, hopefully as much for you as me
thank you

smile_hear
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Re: Autonomy in the Power Process
What comes first...

human needs
or
technological necessity?

How is balance found?
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Re: Autonomy in the Power Process
How many boxes would you need if each idea had to fit inside of a box?
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Nobody's ideology is perfect....we take pieces here & there.
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Re: Autonomy in the Power Process
If we weren't struggling for power, what would we struggle for?
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Where do you get your sense of power from?

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