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THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST

 
Neim-Ya'shar (OP)

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i really will not get into this again but you need to read matthew chapter 5:17-24 ..her what the master said ok..this is the rebellion I am addresing it is up to you people to wise up and study what jesus said
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You apparently cannot read! Please read Matthew 5 again! Answer this question: Is Yeshua still on earth in human flesh? If your answer is no, then you have to see that the law has been fulfilled. Read Matthew 5 agian..."I did not come to cancel the law, but to fulfill it."...Yeshua is NOT HERE IN THE FLESH ANYMORE...THE LAW HAS BEEN FULFILLED ...read the following and understand...

If you have a 15 year mortgage...how much is your monthly payment in 30 years? The correct answer is NOTHING! The mortgage CONTRACT has been fulfilled! That is the same thing with the law - FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN YESHUA the law has been fulfilled...no longer in effect! If they do not believe in Yeshua...the law of Moses is still in effect for them...but, not for those who believe!
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corinthinas chapter 15:22 till the end you read


24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
Ps 110:1 Matt 22:44 Luke 20:43 Acts 2:34 Heb 1:13

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
Psa 8:6 Eph 1:22 Heb 2:8

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And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Ummm....no! You are completely disregarding the words of Yeshua Himself! "I did not come to cancel the law, but to fulfill it." Yeshua is not "still here" - as in He is not "still here in the human flesh" The law has been fulfilled. You are trying to live in a contract/covenant that is not in force for those who believe. Go back and read what Yeshua wrote about those who do not believe in Him..."It is not I who will condemn you, but Moses..."

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Read from verse 38 until the end of the chapter. They (the Pharisees) were searching the Law for life...not believing in Yeshua for life!!!
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blablablabla

You want to argue get on your knees and argue with the one who told you this below!

For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away [and they still have not!], one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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And when the flames engulfed the Temple, three young priests went up to its roof and threw the keys of the House of God to heaven. A hand reached down and took the keys.
And the priests said, "How long, O LORD, how long?"
And a heavenly voice answered: "Not longer than two days, My children."
Then they knew that the exile of the Shekhinah and the dispersion of Israel would last two millennia, for it is written, "A thousand years in Thy sight are but as yesterday" (Psalm 90:4).
And they said before Him: "Master of the World! How can Israel endure two thousand years of suffering?"
And He said to them: "Behold, I give them a ray of hope which will pierce the night of their exile. I will give them one whom they will never see but whose presence they will feel all the time, who will never come but will always be a-coming; whom they will seek among the lepers in the gates of Rome and in the golden canopy of the supernal Bird's Nest, but who will be found only in their heart of hearts. I will give them him who will not be but who will sustain them. I will give them the Messiah."
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6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.


8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
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This is why you need to cleanse the spirit. And it is not an easy job. "God" as you say, must be pleased in the spirit.

"Your paintings and fabrications of the messiah is your own imaginations and is used to discrimnate against other peoples and promote homosexuality"

I think that.s a reach there....for...The spirit of Christ isn.t neither...in fact sexuality doesn.t exist in God.s kingdom....and any idolism isn.t Holy anyhow...meaning it is just art.....don.t pay attention to it....it doesn.t reveal any truth.....it is a depiction of someone esles vision....a vision an artist had and put on canvass.
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here is what I've been shown:

the 'image of the beast' is the antichrist.

the beast is satan.

the 'image' in Revelations is Strongs G1504 which means 'LIKENESS.'


the 'image of the beast' is the 'likeness' of satan.

a counterfeit to the who the 'image of GOD' is:

ADAM was made in the 'likeness' of GOD. (Gen. 5:1)

JESUS is the LAST ADAM (1 Cor 15:45)


SO......

once again, we have satan imitating the Yehovah with creating his own likeness.....the antichrist.






there are 4 'image' or 'likeness' that I have found in the WORD OF GOD:

1)image of GOD (Gen. 5)
2)image of the earthly (1 Cor. 15)
3)image of the heavenly (1 Cor. 15)
4)image of the beast (throughout the Book of Revelations)

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What do " horns " refer to ?
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kingdoms
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No, that's incorrect.
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here is what I've been shown:

the 'image of the beast' is the antichrist.

the beast is satan.

the 'image' in Revelations is Strongs G1504 which means 'LIKENESS.'


the 'image of the beast' is the 'likeness' of satan.

a counterfeit to the who the 'image of GOD' is:

ADAM was made in the 'likeness' of GOD. (Gen. 5:1)

JESUS is the LAST ADAM (1 Cor 15:45)


SO......

once again, we have satan imitating the Yehovah with creating his own likeness.....the antichrist.






there are 4 'image' or 'likeness' that I have found in the WORD OF GOD:

1)image of GOD (Gen. 5)
2)image of the earthly (1 Cor. 15)
3)image of the heavenly (1 Cor. 15)
4)image of the beast (throughout the Book of Revelations)
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


yes! but this and not just an opinion and we were warned. It is as real today satan is disguised in the modern churches as an angel of light


corinthians 11

13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.


14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 01/28/2013 01:33 PM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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here is what I've been shown:

the 'image of the beast' is the antichrist.

the beast is satan.

the 'image' in Revelations is Strongs G1504 which means 'LIKENESS.'


the 'image of the beast' is the 'likeness' of satan.

a counterfeit to the who the 'image of GOD' is:

ADAM was made in the 'likeness' of GOD. (Gen. 5:1)

JESUS is the LAST ADAM (1 Cor 15:45)


SO......

once again, we have satan imitating the Yehovah with creating his own likeness.....the antichrist.






there are 4 'image' or 'likeness' that I have found in the WORD OF GOD:

1)image of GOD (Gen. 5)
2)image of the earthly (1 Cor. 15)he
3)image of the heavenly (1 Cor. 15)
4)image of the beast (throughout the Book of Revelations)
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


yes! but this and not just an opinion and we were warned. It is as real today satan is disguised in the modern churches as an angel of light


corinthians 11

13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.


14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar



the wheat and tare, the sheep and the goats, grow side by side until the final harvest.

I have seen this first hand in the churches.
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you should read the whole chapter to get the meaning,,This is why you stay ignorantly with your one liners
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You should read the whole New Testament. It says clearly and repeatedly that Christians aren't under the Law of Moses. Christians are better off going with what the bible says than listening to you saying that the bible is all wrong and full of lies.
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This. Saved by Grace alone.
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i really will not get into this again but you need to read matthew chapter 5:17-24 ..her what the master said ok..this is the rebellion I am addresing it is up to you people to wise up and study what jesus said
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


matthew chapter 5:17-24

Christ is speaking of the Commandments, as in the Ten Commandments, which many Christian's still adhere to, to this day.

What he is not talking about, is the Covenant; which was the extensive list of rules and laws given to the Hebrew's during the Exodus, which can be read in Leviticus. In fact just about the entire Book of Leviticus is all about those rules ans laws.

Christ DID come to replace those, when he confirmed such by initiating the New Covenant through his own blood, as told in Luke 22: 14-23 during the Last Supper.
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here is what I've been shown:

the 'image of the beast' is the antichrist.

the beast is satan.

the 'image' in Revelations is Strongs G1504 which means 'LIKENESS.'


the 'image of the beast' is the 'likeness' of satan.

a counterfeit to the who the 'image of GOD' is:

ADAM was made in the 'likeness' of GOD. (Gen. 5:1)

JESUS is the LAST ADAM (1 Cor 15:45)


SO......

once again, we have satan imitating the Yehovah with creating his own likeness.....the antichrist.






there are 4 'image' or 'likeness' that I have found in the WORD OF GOD:

1)image of GOD (Gen. 5)
2)image of the earthly (1 Cor. 15)he
3)image of the heavenly (1 Cor. 15)
4)image of the beast (throughout the Book of Revelations)
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


yes! but this and not just an opinion and we were warned. It is as real today satan is disguised in the modern churches as an angel of light


corinthians 11

13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.


14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar



the wheat and tare, the sheep and the goats, grow side by side until the final harvest.

I have seen this first hand in the churches.
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


The wheat and the tear grow side by side in the earth but the wheat is suppose to separate from the false church that is producing and feeding tears to the congregation.The wheat is suppose to awaken the masses of the deception and not partake in her traditions of man


2nd cor 6
16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Lev 26:12

17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 01/28/2013 02:40 PM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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here is what I've been shown:

the 'image of the beast' is the antichrist.

the beast is satan.

the 'image' in Revelations is Strongs G1504 which means 'LIKENESS.'


the 'image of the beast' is the 'likeness' of satan.

a counterfeit to the who the 'image of GOD' is:

ADAM was made in the 'likeness' of GOD. (Gen. 5:1)

JESUS is the LAST ADAM (1 Cor 15:45)


SO......

once again, we have satan imitating the Yehovah with creating his own likeness.....the antichrist.






there are 4 'image' or 'likeness' that I have found in the WORD OF GOD:

1)image of GOD (Gen. 5)
2)image of the earthly (1 Cor. 15)he
3)image of the heavenly (1 Cor. 15)
4)image of the beast (throughout the Book of Revelations)
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


yes! but this and not just an opinion and we were warned. It is as real today satan is disguised in the modern churches as an angel of light


corinthians 11

13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.


14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar



the wheat and tare, the sheep and the goats, grow side by side until the final harvest.

I have seen this first hand in the churches.
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


The wheat and the tear grow side by side in the earth but the wheat is suppose to separate from the false church that is producing and feeding tears to the congregation.The wheat is suppose to awaken the masses of the deception and not partake in her traditions of man


2nd cor 6
16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Lev 26:12

17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


yup! I agree!

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You apparently cannot read! Please read Matthew 5 again! Answer this question: Is Yeshua still on earth in human flesh? If your answer is no, then you have to see that the law has been fulfilled. Read Matthew 5 agian..."I did not come to cancel the law, but to fulfill it."...Yeshua is NOT HERE IN THE FLESH ANYMORE...THE LAW HAS BEEN FULFILLED ...read the following and understand...

If you have a 15 year mortgage...how much is your monthly payment in 30 years? The correct answer is NOTHING! The mortgage CONTRACT has been fulfilled! That is the same thing with the law - FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN YESHUA the law has been fulfilled...no longer in effect! If they do not believe in Yeshua...the law of Moses is still in effect for them...but, not for those who believe!
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corinthinas chapter 15:22 till the end you read


24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
Ps 110:1 Matt 22:44 Luke 20:43 Acts 2:34 Heb 1:13

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
Psa 8:6 Eph 1:22 Heb 2:8

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And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Ummm....no! You are completely disregarding the words of Yeshua Himself! "I did not come to cancel the law, but to fulfill it." Yeshua is not "still here" - as in He is not "still here in the human flesh" The law has been fulfilled. You are trying to live in a contract/covenant that is not in force for those who believe. Go back and read what Yeshua wrote about those who do not believe in Him..."It is not I who will condemn you, but Moses..."

[link to bible.cc]
Read from verse 38 until the end of the chapter. They (the Pharisees) were searching the Law for life...not believing in Yeshua for life!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342

:blablablabla:

You want to argue get on your knees and argue with the one who told you this below!

For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away [and they still have not!], one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


The law is in effect...for those who do not believe in the sacrificial atonement of Yeshua's death on the cross. I fully agree. The part you don't get is that the believers in Yeshua are no longer under the law. He was the sacrifice once for all.
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corinthinas chapter 15:22 till the end you read


24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
Ps 110:1 Matt 22:44 Luke 20:43 Acts 2:34 Heb 1:13

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
Psa 8:6 Eph 1:22 Heb 2:8

28
And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Ummm....no! You are completely disregarding the words of Yeshua Himself! "I did not come to cancel the law, but to fulfill it." Yeshua is not "still here" - as in He is not "still here in the human flesh" The law has been fulfilled. You are trying to live in a contract/covenant that is not in force for those who believe. Go back and read what Yeshua wrote about those who do not believe in Him..."It is not I who will condemn you, but Moses..."

[link to bible.cc]
Read from verse 38 until the end of the chapter. They (the Pharisees) were searching the Law for life...not believing in Yeshua for life!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342

blablablabla

You want to argue get on your knees and argue with the one who told you this below!

For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away [and they still have not!], one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


The law is in effect...for those who do not believe in the sacrificial atonement of Yeshua's death on the cross. I fully agree. The part you don't get is that the believers in Yeshua are no longer under the law. He was the sacrifice once for all.
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I got it quite clear maybe you having issues with it because the written law we are not under but we are to live the law from our hearts.That why paul said we uphold the law...

Thw first covenant was cursed because if you failed one you were to be put to death, but messiah became that curse that we have grace to work out our salvation by walking in obedience to the law and statutes.

matt chapter 5:17-25

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Ummm....no! You are completely disregarding the words of Yeshua Himself! "I did not come to cancel the law, but to fulfill it." Yeshua is not "still here" - as in He is not "still here in the human flesh" The law has been fulfilled. You are trying to live in a contract/covenant that is not in force for those who believe. Go back and read what Yeshua wrote about those who do not believe in Him..."It is not I who will condemn you, but Moses..."

[link to bible.cc]
Read from verse 38 until the end of the chapter. They (the Pharisees) were searching the Law for life...not believing in Yeshua for life!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342

:blablablabla:

You want to argue get on your knees and argue with the one who told you this below!

For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away [and they still have not!], one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


The law is in effect...for those who do not believe in the sacrificial atonement of Yeshua's death on the cross. I fully agree. The part you don't get is that the believers in Yeshua are no longer under the law. He was the sacrifice once for all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342

I got it quite clear maybe you having issues with it because the written law we are not under but we are to live the law from our hearts.That why paul said we uphold the law...

Thw first covenant was cursed because if you failed one you were to be put to death, but messiah became that curse that we have grace to work out our salvation by walking in obedience to the law and statutes.

matt chapter 5:17-25
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


At the appointed time you will shudder at your own thoughts. You will bow to God and confess that you could never follow the law - whether written on papyrus, leather...or on your heart.
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Huh, I am lost in all this!

Maybe someone will explain to me what is now the argument on this thread about?
or otherwise,..
...just relax, for even the patriarchs did not deem themselves worthy of Christ. And surely it was all about the New Covenant, whereas the Ten Commandments (not the Old Covenant) are raised from the carnal 'do not' to spiritual 'do not',---do not do it in your thoughts!

Tough!
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christ gave us a new commandment...love one another.
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christ gave us a new commandment...love one another.
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Yes

But you were also commanded to remain SEPARATE from the world.

Thread: Sin is the reason the world is messed up
Thread: Chains

Have you the strength to break them?
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christ gave us a new commandment...love one another.
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yes and he said all the law and the prophets hang on this meaning that if you love yourself as your neigbour you will obey his commands and statutes and things written in the word and save yourself from damnation
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Huh, I am lost in all this!

Maybe someone will explain to me what is now the argument on this thread about?
or otherwise,..
...just relax, for even the patriarchs did not deem themselves worthy of Christ. And surely it was all about the New Covenant, whereas the Ten Commandments (not the Old Covenant) are raised from the carnal 'do not' to spiritual 'do not',---do not do it in your thoughts!

Tough!
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don't worry it satan imps trying to change the focus on their rebellion by twisting the word as usual
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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You want to argue get on your knees and argue with the one who told you this below!

For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away [and they still have not!], one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled
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The law is in effect...for those who do not believe in the sacrificial atonement of Yeshua's death on the cross. I fully agree. The part you don't get is that the believers in Yeshua are no longer under the law. He was the sacrifice once for all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342

I got it quite clear maybe you having issues with it because the written law we are not under but we are to live the law from our hearts.That why paul said we uphold the law...

Thw first covenant was cursed because if you failed one you were to be put to death, but messiah became that curse that we have grace to work out our salvation by walking in obedience to the law and statutes.

matt chapter 5:17-25
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


At the appointed time you will shudder at your own thoughts. You will bow to God and confess that you could never follow the law - whether written on papyrus, leather...or on your heart.
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blablablabla

For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away [and they still have not!], one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Huh, I am lost in all this!

Maybe someone will explain to me what is now the argument on this thread about?
or otherwise,..
...just relax, for even the patriarchs did not deem themselves worthy of Christ. And surely it was all about the New Covenant, whereas the Ten Commandments (not the Old Covenant) are raised from the carnal 'do not' to spiritual 'do not',---do not do it in your thoughts!

Tough!
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don't worry it satan imps trying to change the focus on their rebellion by twisting the word as usual
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so, you think i discerned it correctly, or i am being to harsh on myself...
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Huh, I am lost in all this!

Maybe someone will explain to me what is now the argument on this thread about?
or otherwise,..
...just relax, for even the patriarchs did not deem themselves worthy of Christ. And surely it was all about the New Covenant, whereas the Ten Commandments (not the Old Covenant) are raised from the carnal 'do not' to spiritual 'do not',---do not do it in your thoughts!

Tough!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32834975


don't worry it satan imps trying to change the focus on their rebellion by twisting the word as usual
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


so, you think i discerned it correctly, or i am being to harsh on myself...
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no you are ok it will all come together just be patient and keep studying the word
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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The law is in effect...for those who do not believe in the sacrificial atonement of Yeshua's death on the cross. I fully agree. The part you don't get is that the believers in Yeshua are no longer under the law. He was the sacrifice once for all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342

I got it quite clear maybe you having issues with it because the written law we are not under but we are to live the law from our hearts.That why paul said we uphold the law...

Thw first covenant was cursed because if you failed one you were to be put to death, but messiah became that curse that we have grace to work out our salvation by walking in obedience to the law and statutes.

matt chapter 5:17-25
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


At the appointed time you will shudder at your own thoughts. You will bow to God and confess that you could never follow the law - whether written on papyrus, leather...or on your heart.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342


:blablablabla:

For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away [and they still have not!], one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


OP, the following is said...for your own guilt...

The law was fulfilled...and heaven and earth still stand AND THE LAW IS STILL IN EFFECT! As I write this from planet earth...I can say that the law is effect...but, hmmm....Yeshua is not still here?!?! He came to fulfill the law...and, yet, He is not here...the law must have been fulfilled...or do you think that Yeshua somehow failed?

Everything Jesus said came true. The law stands for those who do not believe. Grace is accorded to those who have faith that Yeshua is Lord and that Yeshua rose from the dead. What did Paul mean when he wrote to the Galatians that they received the Holy Spirit by faith and not following the law. Didn't Paul warn the Galatians that they did not maintain the presence of the Holy Spirit by faith and not following the law? Read Galatians 3:1-6.
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I got it quite clear maybe you having issues with it because the written law we are not under but we are to live the law from our hearts.That why paul said we uphold the law...

Thw first covenant was cursed because if you failed one you were to be put to death, but messiah became that curse that we have grace to work out our salvation by walking in obedience to the law and statutes.

matt chapter 5:17-25
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


At the appointed time you will shudder at your own thoughts. You will bow to God and confess that you could never follow the law - whether written on papyrus, leather...or on your heart.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342


blablablabla

For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away [and they still have not!], one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


OP, the following is said...for your own guilt...

The law was fulfilled...and heaven and earth still stand AND THE LAW IS STILL IN EFFECT! As I write this from planet earth...I can say that the law is effect...but, hmmm....Yeshua is not still here?!?! He came to fulfill the law...and, yet, He is not here...the law must have been fulfilled...or do you think that Yeshua somehow failed?

Everything Jesus said came true. The law stands for those who do not believe. Grace is accorded to those who have faith that Yeshua is Lord and that Yeshua rose from the dead. What did Paul mean when he wrote to the Galatians that they received the Holy Spirit by faith and not following the law. Didn't Paul warn the Galatians that they did not maintain the presence of the Holy Spirit by faith and not following the law? Read Galatians 3:1-6.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342


ohwell1
You done yet?
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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At the appointed time you will shudder at your own thoughts. You will bow to God and confess that you could never follow the law - whether written on papyrus, leather...or on your heart.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342


:blablablabla:

For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away [and they still have not!], one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


OP, the following is said...for your own guilt...

The law was fulfilled...and heaven and earth still stand AND THE LAW IS STILL IN EFFECT! As I write this from planet earth...I can say that the law is effect...but, hmmm....Yeshua is not still here?!?! He came to fulfill the law...and, yet, He is not here...the law must have been fulfilled...or do you think that Yeshua somehow failed?

Everything Jesus said came true. The law stands for those who do not believe. Grace is accorded to those who have faith that Yeshua is Lord and that Yeshua rose from the dead. What did Paul mean when he wrote to the Galatians that they received the Holy Spirit by faith and not following the law. Didn't Paul warn the Galatians that they did not maintain the presence of the Holy Spirit by faith and not following the law? Read Galatians 3:1-6.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342


:ohwell1:
You done yet?
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


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What do " horns " refer to ?
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kingdoms
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No, that's incorrect.
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From the Zohar( Which you seem like you would be familiar with, but...)

From Wisdom's ("Power" or "an animal horn") Authority is born.

His Wisdom shone (qaran) unto them like ("power" or "an animal horn") (qeren) of light
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IAMIAM, claims to be Jesus, and so he's an antichrist, the spawn of Satan.
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Believe in what is good and true, the Bible.

Reject the words created by evil men who would teach you false doctrines by Gnostics.

3 Now there was a Pharisee, a man named Nicodemus who was a member of the Jewish ruling council. 2 He came to Jesus at night and said, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs you are doing if God were not with him.”

3 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.[a]”

4 “How can someone be born when they are old?” Nicodemus asked. “Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb to be born!”

5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. 6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. 7 You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You[c] must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”[d]

9 “How can this be?” Nicodemus asked.

10 “You are Israel’s teacher,” said Jesus, “and do you not understand these things? 11 Very truly I tell you, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. 12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things? 13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.[e] 14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up,[f] 15 that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him.”[g]

16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son
. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.

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So basically you worship Satan. Why not just admit it?
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The beast is a man who will one day rise in power and control the world
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IoB is MSM!!!
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