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Let the Fat People and Smokers DIE?

 
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NEW YORK (AP) -- Faced with the high cost of caring for smokers and overeaters, experts say society must grapple with a blunt question: Instead of trying to penalize them and change their ways, why not just let these health sinners die?

Annual health care costs are roughly $96 billion for smokers and $147 billion for the obese, the government says. These costs accompany sometimes heroic attempts to prolong lives, including surgery, chemotherapy and other measures.

But despite these rescue attempts, smokers tend to die 10 years earlier on average, and the obese die five to 12 years prematurely, according to various researchers' estimates.


BTW I'm a smoker and I'm 6'2" 230lbs
I'm probably considered a fat smoker who will be allowed to die if I get sick. I would rather die than live with these assholes running things

Last Edited by Founders Fan on 01/26/2013 05:43 PM
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If people can't look after their own health as best they can why should they expect pity and help with heath issues that could have been avoided?
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I agree totally. if you are stupid enough to smoke or over eat you deserve what you get. Use a little will power and change your ways if you don't like your situation.
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hang on so if there is no healthcare for smokers, does that mean no longer any tax on smokng - for healthcare?
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die 10 years earlier on average?

is that it!!?
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I agree fat people and smokers should not receive any treatment that would cost taxpayer dollars.

If they die? then so be it.
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When you have federal healthcare... you have no choice in what you can and can not do with your body, because the state owns it. If you decide to do harmful things to your body... well you just have to start paying more regardless of if your decision caused your health problem or not.

Get use to it.
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The insurance companies are likely to join in on this also. If you're overweight and smoke you can expect to be denied coverage.
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The insurance companies are likely to join in on this also. If you're overweight and smoke you can expect to be denied coverage.
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Nah, they will just let you pay your monthly fee, but once you get sick and need treatment they won't help you.
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LOL i support the elite with this.

fat pigs and there eating habits.

I dont have a problem with smokers, sure if they get cancer or anything there fault.
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Since some of you are sooooo holier than thou; how about we add those that DRINK alcohol, take any drugs that are illegal, have mental health issues, etc.


Gee people.
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If people can't look after their own health as best they can why should they expect pity and help with heath issues that could have been avoided?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25327582

do you people,i use that term loosely these days,really believe the shit that comes out of your mouth.
what if you are a gay canadian and have multi partners and get aids?what if you drive like shit and become paralyzed.what if you do other risky things?where does it stop?drunks?junkies?do you have a pool in your yard?do you hunt and fish?hike?might get lime disease?why the fuck should i pay?do you fuck around with married women?might get pemanently injured by a jealous husband.i could go on for pages
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The fatasses especially piss me off. They look like a herd of cows at a buffet and we pay to feed the useless fucks. Most of them cant work beyond a certain point and are on assistance anyway.

Not to mention all the fucking hoverounds in the grocery stores now.

For gods sakes the bastards won't even walk to buy food anymore.
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Participate in extreme sports?
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NEW YORK (AP) -- Faced with the high cost of caring for smokers and overeaters, experts say society must grapple with a blunt question: Instead of trying to penalize them and change their ways, why not just let these health sinners die?

Annual health care costs are roughly $96 billion for smokers and $147 billion for the obese, the government says. These costs accompany sometimes heroic attempts to prolong lives, including surgery, chemotherapy and other measures.

But despite these rescue attempts, smokers tend to die 10 years earlier on average, and the obese die five to 12 years prematurely, according to various researchers' estimates.


BTW I'm a smoker and I'm 6'2" 230lbs
I'm probably considered a fat smoker who will be allowed to die if I get sick. I would rather die than live with theses assholes running things
 Quoting: TDJ

I wonder if these idiot "experts" can shit out how much it costs for alcoholics and people who drink and drive, break up families and make other peoples' lives miserable?

Fucking hypocrites!
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Agreed.

If you wont look after your own body, why should anyone else fix you up when it breaks down?
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Since some of you are sooooo holier than thou; how about we add those that DRINK alcohol, take any drugs that are illegal, have mental health issues, etc.


Gee people.
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That would be fine with me.
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Agreed.

If you wont look after your own body, why should anyone else fix you up when it breaks down?
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Yeah, what about all the thin people having sex with multiple partners and exposing themselves to sickness.
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Re: Let the Fat People and Smokers DIE?
Since some of you are sooooo holier than thou; how about we add those that DRINK alcohol, take any drugs that are illegal, have mental health issues, etc.


Gee people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14091728

These gayblades on this thread don't know it but after fatties and smokers, they're next. They're just too fucking stupid to understand how the game of dominoes is played.
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Re: Let the Fat People and Smokers DIE?
Since some of you are sooooo holier than thou; how about we add those that DRINK alcohol, take any drugs that are illegal, have mental health issues, etc.


Gee people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14091728


Let's not forget the pharmaceutical drugs.

I have to keep paying for mentally unstable people to keep getting drugged up? What da FUQ?
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I agree fat people and smokers should not receive any treatment that would cost taxpayer dollars.

If they die? then so be it.
 Quoting: Phoenix 2012

i pay for my own healthcare and my profession is exempt from o care.when i get medicare i will make sure i live as long as possible just so the likes of u have to pay more
i am a smoker and a taxpayer and my vice is taxed.what is that stupid fucking picture next to your name?i see you get most of your karma from being a little tattletale
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First they came for the smokers
Then the fatties
Then the drinkers
Then the risky behavior sexual activities that included multiple partners
Then the one's who participated in sports
Then the ones who didn't eat from the recomemded daily food diet

Then they realized all the healthy people lived longer and they were spending way too much money on them to be looked after in nursing homes.

So, then, they gave incentives for people to eat more and ran commercials on how smoking is good for you, etc...and all the really healthy people had to pay more or be denied.
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Te parrots have spoken.
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I agree fat people and smokers should not receive any treatment that would cost taxpayer dollars.

If they die? then so be it.
 Quoting: Phoenix 2012

i pay for my own healthcare and my profession is exempt from o care.when i get medicare i will make sure i live as long as possible just so the likes of u have to pay more
i am a smoker and a taxpayer and my vice is taxed.what is that stupid fucking picture next to your name?i see you get most of your karma from being a little tattletale
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30453592


God don't even get me started on medicare and social security!

So which one are you, The fatass or the smoker?

Last Edited by Phoenix 2012 on 01/26/2013 05:27 PM
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does this apply to women too?i thought it was no ones business what a woman does with her body?
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does this apply to women too?i thought it was no ones business what a woman does with her body?
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lol
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I agree fat people and smokers should not receive any treatment that would cost taxpayer dollars.

If they die? then so be it.
 Quoting: Phoenix 2012

i pay for my own healthcare and my profession is exempt from o care.when i get medicare i will make sure i live as long as possible just so the likes of u have to pay more
i am a smoker and a taxpayer and my vice is taxed.what is that stupid fucking picture next to your name?i see you get most of your karma from being a little tattletale
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30453592


God don't even get me started on medicare and social security!

So which one are you, The fatass or the smoker?
 Quoting: Phoenix 2012


I think ignorant morons are in the majority.
Which explains why Obama got elected twice and why his minions want other people to die just because they do things that they don't like.
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I agree fat people and smokers should not receive any treatment that would cost taxpayer dollars.

If they die? then so be it.
 Quoting: Phoenix 2012

i pay for my own healthcare and my profession is exempt from o care.when i get medicare i will make sure i live as long as possible just so the likes of u have to pay more
i am a smoker and a taxpayer and my vice is taxed.what is that stupid fucking picture next to your name?i see you get most of your karma from being a little tattletale
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30453592


God don't even get me started on medicare and social security!

So which one are you, The fatass or the smoker?
 Quoting: Phoenix 2012


I think ignorant morons are in the majority.
Which explains why Obama got elected twice and why his minions want other people to die just because they do things that they don't like.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18012248


Welcome to planet retard..lol

In light of the newer developments I cant say people don't have it coming.

Everyone in line for handouts completely oblivious to what they have done to themselves.
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I agree fat people and smokers should not receive any treatment that would cost taxpayer dollars.

If they die? then so be it.
 Quoting: Phoenix 2012

i pay for my own healthcare and my profession is exempt from o care.when i get medicare i will make sure i live as long as possible just so the likes of u have to pay more
i am a smoker and a taxpayer and my vice is taxed.what is that stupid fucking picture next to your name?i see you get most of your karma from being a little tattletale
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30453592


God don't even get me started on medicare and social security!

So which one are you, The fatass or the smoker?
 Quoting: Phoenix 2012


I think ignorant morons are in the majority.
Which explains why Obama got elected twice and why his minions want other people to die just because they do things that they don't like.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18012248


I could care less if you smoke or over eat. Keep on doing it if that's what you feel the need to do. It's stupid though, and if you do it, you ought to be required to pay for your own medical expenses.
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Re: Let the Fat People and Smokers DIE?
hang on so if there is no healthcare for smokers, does that mean no longer any tax on smokng - for healthcare?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33070430


It's the 10 years that you don't know whi you are and shit your pants??? Keep those years for yourself.
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i pay for my own healthcare and my profession is exempt from o care.when i get medicare i will make sure i live as long as possible just so the likes of u have to pay more
i am a smoker and a taxpayer and my vice is taxed.what is that stupid fucking picture next to your name?i see you get most of your karma from being a little tattletale
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30453592


God don't even get me started on medicare and social security!

So which one are you, The fatass or the smoker?
 Quoting: Phoenix 2012


I think ignorant morons are in the majority.
Which explains why Obama got elected twice and why his minions want other people to die just because they do things that they don't like.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18012248


I could care less if you smoke or over eat. Keep on doing it if that's what you feel the need to do. It's stupid though, and if you do it, you ought to be required to pay for your own medical expenses.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1430199


BTW I have my OWN health insurance because I have a good job because I went to college and show up every day to work.

Last Edited by Founders Fan on 01/26/2013 05:43 PM
If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.

Bob Marley

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THOMAS PAINE (1737-1809)

Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Bruce Lee

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