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Is 'faith' recognizing intelligent design or........ confidence in divine interception of inevitable nuclear winter on earth?

 
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"And in answer Jesus said to them: “Look out that nobody misleads YOU; 5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. 6 YOU are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that YOU are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet.
7 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. 8 All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.
9 “Then people will deliver YOU up to tribulation and will kill YOU, and YOU will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name. 10 Then, also, many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another. 11 And many false prophets will arise and mislead many; 12 and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off. 13 But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved. 14 And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.
...for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again. 22 In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short." Mt24:3

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"And in answer Jesus said to them: “Look out that nobody misleads YOU; 5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. 6 YOU are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that YOU are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet.
7 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. 8 All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.
9 “Then people will deliver YOU up to tribulation and will kill YOU, and YOU will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name. 10 Then, also, many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another. 11 And many false prophets will arise and mislead many; 12 and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off. 13 But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved. 14 And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.
...for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again. 22 In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short." Mt24:3
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see, everything will be allright
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or maybe, faith is a steadfast belief that god is love.

that no one needs suffer as long as he does good, little matter the dogma he/she espouses

that everything will be allright
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see, everything will be allright
 Quoting: david 16910407


or maybe, faith is a steadfast belief that god is love.

that no one needs suffer as long as he does good, little matter the dogma he/she espouses

that everything will be allright
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Ours is 'the generation of consequence', reaping what man has sown for 6,000 years, however God has an invitation to survive this;
"Also, there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and [its] agitation, 26 while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27 And then they will see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 But as these things start to occur, raise yourselves erect and lift YOUR heads up, because YOUR deliverance is getting near.” Lk21:25
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"And in answer Jesus said to them: “Look out that nobody misleads YOU; 5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. 6 YOU are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that YOU are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet.
7 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. 8 All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.
9 “Then people will deliver YOU up to tribulation and will kill YOU, and YOU will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name. 10 Then, also, many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another. 11 And many false prophets will arise and mislead many; 12 and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off. 13 But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved. 14 And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.
...for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again. 22 In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short." Mt24:3
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both
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.....smarty..... (beating me at my own game)

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"And in answer Jesus said to them: “Look out that nobody misleads YOU; 5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. 6 YOU are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that YOU are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet.
7 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. 8 All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.
9 “Then people will deliver YOU up to tribulation and will kill YOU, and YOU will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name. 10 Then, also, many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another. 11 And many false prophets will arise and mislead many; 12 and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off. 13 But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved. 14 And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.
...for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again. 22 In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short." Mt24:3
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both
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.....smarty..... (beating me at my own game)
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"And in answer Jesus said to them: “Look out that nobody misleads YOU; 5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. 6 YOU are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that YOU are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet.
7 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. 8 All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.
9 “Then people will deliver YOU up to tribulation and will kill YOU, and YOU will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name. 10 Then, also, many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another. 11 And many false prophets will arise and mislead many; 12 and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off. 13 But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved. 14 And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.
...for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again. 22 In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short." Mt24:3
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both
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


.....smarty..... (beating me at my own game)
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Goofy Thum
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No..... it only seems that way for a flashing pinpoint moment in ETERNITY.... how Ever
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both
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.....smarty..... (beating me at my own game)
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Goofy Thum
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No..... it only seems that way for a flashing pinpoint moment in ETERNITY.... how Ever
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.....define "ETERNITY".....aaa
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"And in answer Jesus said to them: “Look out that nobody misleads YOU; 5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. 6 YOU are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that YOU are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet.
7 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. 8 All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.
9 “Then people will deliver YOU up to tribulation and will kill YOU, and YOU will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name. 10 Then, also, many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another. 11 And many false prophets will arise and mislead many; 12 and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off. 13 But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved. 14 And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.
...for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again. 22 In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short." Mt24:3
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both
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So do people who recognize intelligent design but have no knowledge of God's kingdom have faith?
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For me, I came to a simple realization recently which is this...

Faith is "acting as if." That's it.
I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is. -Albert Camus

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For me, I came to a simple realization recently which is this...

Faith is "acting as if." That's it.
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Isn't that more like attitude than faith?
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For me, I came to a simple realization recently which is this...

Faith is "acting as if." That's it.
 Quoting: A Friend


Isn't that more like attitude than faith?
 Quoting: DGN


I'm not quite sure I follow you exactly.
I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is. -Albert Camus

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"And in answer Jesus said to them: “Look out that nobody misleads YOU; 5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. 6 YOU are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that YOU are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet.
7 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. 8 All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.
9 “Then people will deliver YOU up to tribulation and will kill YOU, and YOU will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name. 10 Then, also, many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another. 11 And many false prophets will arise and mislead many; 12 and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off. 13 But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved. 14 And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.
...for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again. 22 In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short." Mt24:3
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both
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So do people who recognize intelligent design but have no knowledge of God's kingdom have faith?
 Quoting: DGN


not necessarily......


"Faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld"- Hebrews 11:1


Many people recognize intelligent design, but don't exercise faith in the "Designer"...nor seek his Kingdom first. {Matthew 6:33
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For me, I came to a simple realization recently which is this...

Faith is "acting as if." That's it.
 Quoting: A Friend


Isn't that more like attitude than faith?
 Quoting: DGN


I'm not quite sure I follow you exactly.
 Quoting: A Friend


Faith is "acting as if" you know absolutely that God exists.
I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is. -Albert Camus

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For me, I came to a simple realization recently which is this...

Faith is "acting as if." That's it.
 Quoting: A Friend


Isn't that more like attitude than faith?
 Quoting: DGN


I'm not quite sure I follow you exactly.
 Quoting: A Friend


Faith is "acting as if" you know absolutely that God exists.
 Quoting: A Friend


What I mean is faith is not recognizing intelligent design, that's simple science. Faith includes an accurate knowledge of God's promise to terminate Satan's reign of terror after Armageddon, and recognizing the 'sign' of Satan's last days.
"And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven with the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3 And he hurled him into the abyss and shut [it] and sealed [it] over him, that he might not mislead the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After these things he must be let loose for a little while." Rv20:1
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faith is listeng to the words of men over your own spirituality, turning you into what they desire.
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Isn't that more like attitude than faith?
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I'm not quite sure I follow you exactly.
 Quoting: A Friend


Faith is "acting as if" you know absolutely that God exists.
 Quoting: A Friend


What I mean is faith is not recognizing intelligent design, that's simple science. Faith includes an accurate knowledge of God's promise to terminate Satan's reign of terror after Armageddon, and recognizing the 'sign' of Satan's last days.
"And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven with the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3 And he hurled him into the abyss and shut [it] and sealed [it] over him, that he might not mislead the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After these things he must be let loose for a little while." Rv20:1
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Ok, that's fine. I like to simplify things to their basic essence. And If I know that God exists absolutely then I know what He told me will absolutely happen.
I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is. -Albert Camus

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faith is listeng to the words of men over your own spirituality, turning you into what they desire.
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That's religion, great expression! Here's your backup;

" While they are promising them freedom, they themselves are existing as slaves of corruption. For whoever is overcome by another is enslaved by this one. 20 Certainly if, after having escaped from the defilements of the world by an accurate knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they get involved again with these very things and are overcome, the final conditions have become worse for them than the first. 21 For it would have been better for them not to have accurately known the path of righteousness than after knowing it accurately to turn away from the holy commandment delivered to them." 2Pe2:19
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I'm not quite sure I follow you exactly.
 Quoting: A Friend


Faith is "acting as if" you know absolutely that God exists.
 Quoting: A Friend


What I mean is faith is not recognizing intelligent design, that's simple science. Faith includes an accurate knowledge of God's promise to terminate Satan's reign of terror after Armageddon, and recognizing the 'sign' of Satan's last days.
"And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven with the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3 And he hurled him into the abyss and shut [it] and sealed [it] over him, that he might not mislead the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After these things he must be let loose for a little while." Rv20:1
 Quoting: DGN


Ok, that's fine. I like to simplify things to their basic essence. And If I know that God exists absolutely then I know what He told me will absolutely happen.
 Quoting: A Friend


...so to "simplify things to their basic essence"- to see the evidence of Creation around us and the Universe. And then NOT believe that God absolutely exists....


"For his invisible qualities are clearly seen from the world's creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable"- Romans 1:20
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I'm not quite sure I follow you exactly.
 Quoting: A Friend


Faith is "acting as if" you know absolutely that God exists.
 Quoting: A Friend


What I mean is faith is not recognizing intelligent design, that's simple science. Faith includes an accurate knowledge of God's promise to terminate Satan's reign of terror after Armageddon, and recognizing the 'sign' of Satan's last days.
"And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven with the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3 And he hurled him into the abyss and shut [it] and sealed [it] over him, that he might not mislead the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After these things he must be let loose for a little while." Rv20:1
 Quoting: DGN


Ok, that's fine. I like to simplify things to their basic essence. And If I know that God exists absolutely then I know what He told me will absolutely happen.
 Quoting: A Friend


Everything that God expresses in his word will happen, most regarding the 'last days' already has, however he doesn't send secret messages now like he did to the prophets, that was before it was all written in his word.
" All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work." 2ti3:16

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