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A lot of "Ancient" sits are being systematically Destroyed.

WHY

To hide the Truth about our past on this Planet
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The people actually in charge left too many remnants of the last civilization following the purge and too many people questioned the religious dogmas they chose as control structures. They don't want that to happen as quickly on the next go around.
 Quoting: OCD Chaos Theorist


I'm a Christian and I still want to know the truth behind these sites.

I don't know how scientists figure out and date things and how true that really is but I believe in God and I believe that the pyramids, at the very least the syphinx, are older than the Egyptian era.

I also believe that these ancient landmarks are not made by humans but by spiritual beings of some kind, aliens or angels or even something we are not aware of.
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how is it being destroyed now?
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systematically hidden from View and "Thieves" damaging artefacts while removing them

How many "Stolen" Artefacts are Destroyed by TPTB 'coz they tell of a Bigger Truth
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ta,i just assumed for something so valuable it would be secured
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If only the Library of Alexandria had not been burned down!

I believe that the Vatican has the Alexandria Contents stashed away ...

Stay Classy Turkey !
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What I dont understand is how come they dont have all kinds of technology in there 24/7 uncovering this FASTER if it is what they think it is?

But rather we choose to plant a bunch of tree's and destroy it?

That rather implys they KNOW what might be uncovered and are afraid.
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Atlantis may have been destroyed by a tsunami around 12,000 years ago.

I personally think that ancient myths are based, at least partly, things that really happened.

If only the Library of Alexandria had not been burned down!
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Ask Newton and the shoulders he said he stood up on to obtain his knowledge.

I've often wondered about alexandria. I wonder what was in it.
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For those of you interested, check out Paul LaViolette:

[link to www.etheric.com]

He has theories on the petroglyphs (shown on p.1) of this thread. Also, check out Dr. Robert Schoch -- His studies of the statues on Easter Island and the petroglyphs whcih have been found on te Easter Island have a connection to what was seen during a galactic plasma event which was the beginning of the last ice age. His most recent book a "Forgotten Civilization" touches on a lot mentioned here in this thread.
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A writer named Micheal Cremo went and researched all the original documentation from all the archeological work done over the course of the last 200 years and he compiled a reference book called "Forbidden Archaology" and he says that he has no doubt that human beings have been around in modern form for 300,000 years or longer according to real work done in the field.

He says that there's a mild sort of conspiracy to keep the general public from knowing this information because they will go out of their way to ignore evidence that goes against their standard model of the world or the mainstream status quo scientific view. Cremo says the information and evidence exists but is mostly relegated to the kind of cardboard box filled basements you find in old museums, and nothing ever sees the light of day. None of the unusual findings are ever reported or published. People stubbornly and stupidly obscure the truth for various reasons. Sometimes religious. Sometimes for fear of losing funding or losing the respect of their peers.
 Quoting: Ninja G 29793348


I just bought this book last week. I have seen a lot of the videos w/ Cremo. As I mention in an above post, check out Dr. Paul LaViolette. He sued the US patent office in 2000 who fired him due because of his non-conforming scientifically based beliefs. He won.
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Atlantis may have been destroyed by a tsunami around 12,000 years ago.

I personally think that ancient myths are based, at least partly, things that really happened.

If only the Library of Alexandria had not been burned down!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20253056


library of alexandria burned by religious fanatics.

who knows how much history destroyed by the chinese communists cultural revolution

talliban destroy ancient buhdist statues

people, try to be careful about the dogmas you follow
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Many inaccuracies [link to answers.yahoo.com]
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I asked because I thought it was interesting that a young savant (Jacob Barnett) was challenging the BBT based on carbon inaccuracies, ad then I read your post. I don't know I'd you saw my link in here about him, but I'm sure a search on him and carbon would give you articles on why he believes this.
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Where ddi you hear that he's challanging the BBT based on carbon dating. I thought it had something to do with the mass and velocity of photons and how tachyons interplay with the universe.

Besides, carbon dating only has a range of about 60,000 years. For older aging they use uranium dating.
 Quoting: chrion777


Mind you, he is young but scientists are interested in his theory.


"Jacob tells his college professors and everyone else who will listen that the theories he is currently working on will expand upon the theories offered by Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawkings and are not designed to disprove them altogether. However, Jacob says that the problem that he has with current theories offered by both is that they do not explain the amount of carbon that we see in the Universe today if the “Big Bang” theory is to be upheld as the manner in which our Universe was created. Jake goes on to say that he doesn’t really care about the fundamental elements of Hydrogen and Helium in the moments that supposedly followed the Big Bang, but that he is more concerned how carbon was formed, which he states could not have been created in the quantities that we see in our Universe today if we follow the Big Bang model from the moment of the Bang until now. And, finally, Jake tells his professors and Dr. Tremaine that he can show that Dr. Einstein’s theories of relativity are flawed, especially in the area of the Cosmological Constant that was introduced to explain inconsistencies in those theories, and that he can prove this with a few mathematical expressions that he is working on."

[link to dancalloway.com]
 Quoting: PENG


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Many inaccuracies [link to answers.yahoo.com]
 Quoting: Machine42


I asked because I thought it was interesting that a young savant (Jacob Barnett) was challenging the BBT based on carbon inaccuracies, ad then I read your post. I don't know I'd you saw my link in here about him, but I'm sure a search on him and carbon would give you articles on why he believes this.
 Quoting: PENG


Where ddi you hear that he's challanging the BBT based on carbon dating. I thought it had something to do with the mass and velocity of photons and how tachyons interplay with the universe.

Besides, carbon dating only has a range of about 60,000 years. For older aging they use uranium dating.
 Quoting: chrion777


Mind you, he is young but scientists are interested in his theory.


"Jacob tells his college professors and everyone else who will listen that the theories he is currently working on will expand upon the theories offered by Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawkings and are not designed to disprove them altogether. However, Jacob says that the problem that he has with current theories offered by both is that they do not explain the amount of carbon that we see in the Universe today if the “Big Bang” theory is to be upheld as the manner in which our Universe was created. Jake goes on to say that he doesn’t really care about the fundamental elements of Hydrogen and Helium in the moments that supposedly followed the Big Bang, but that he is more concerned how carbon was formed, which he states could not have been created in the quantities that we see in our Universe today if we follow the Big Bang model from the moment of the Bang until now. And, finally, Jake tells his professors and Dr. Tremaine that he can show that Dr. Einstein’s theories of relativity are flawed, especially in the area of the Cosmological Constant that was introduced to explain inconsistencies in those theories, and that he can prove this with a few mathematical expressions that he is working on."

[link to dancalloway.com]
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he is correct...
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atlantis was the planet between us and mars which is now an asteroid field
they couldnt desciribe it anyothr way so they could understand
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Atlantis was Sunk when the MOON was placed into Earth Orbit

Look closely for folklore of a time Before the Moon..
Read a book- Dumbass
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1984 was NOT meant as an Instruction Manual
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Atlantis may have been destroyed by a tsunami around 12,000 years ago.

I personally think that ancient myths are based, at least partly, things that really happened.

If only the Library of Alexandria had not been burned down!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20253056


library of alexandria burned by religious fanatics.

who knows how much history destroyed by the chinese communists cultural revolution

talliban destroy ancient buhdist statues

people, try to be careful about the dogmas you follow
 Quoting: david 16910407


Also Who's version of History you Read, Or When it was written
Read a book- Dumbass
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"If I have to lose one of my senses, let it be my sense of impending doom."
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1984 was NOT meant as an Instruction Manual
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one thing to consider is that there are far more methods of dating something than just carbon dating.

nobody responded to what I said about Michael Cremo's book Forbidden Archaology.

the archaologists found this one body under a lava flow and they were able to determine based on the local geology that that lava came from an eruption at least 300,000 years ago and this modern human with tools was buried under that lava and recovered in modern times. The establishment pushed that whole excavation into obscurity, they buried the info, they didn't publish about it, they didn't peer review it. they just shelved it and hoped that the world would forget.
 Quoting: Ninja G 29793348


There is no such thing as the geological column as drawn in your science books. It's circular reasoning. They date the fossils by the strata of rock and they date the rock from the fossils. It's stupid. Petrified trees have been found that had grown through layers of sediment that are said to be millions of years old. These layers of deposits aren't millions of years old they were all deposited at the same time.

It doesn't take millions of years to petrify anything go to google and type in petrified boot. While your on that trail look up all of the various objects that have been found contained in coal that is said to be millions of years old. Such as bells and hammers and even dolls.

A few thousand years ago there was a big ass flood that destroyed everything. There were never cave men, although there may have been men who lived in caves. If you live in an apartment are you an "apartment man"? From the moment men were on this planet there was advanced culture and technology.
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NEW JERUSALEM HISTORY TIMELINE
(Events get added as needed)
*****************************************

In the beginning*********** God
13.7 Billion BC****** Universe Big Bang
4.57 Billion BC****** Sun formed
4.54 Billion BC****** Planet Earth formed
4.527 Billion BC***** Moon formed
3 Billion BC********* Algae appears
510 Million BC****** Fish appear
360 Million BC******* Fern plants appear
150 Million BC******* Birds appear
67-65.5 Million BC ***Tyrannosaurus Rex abundant
65.5 Million BC*** Dinosaur extinction event
4.8 Million BC****Mammoths appear
250,000 BC*****Homo sapiens present
10,000 BC*****Gobekli Tepe ancient site in Turkey
4163 BC*****Time of Adam (Mesopotamia/Sumer area) (Mankind aware of God)
4033 BC*****Adam begat Seth
3928 BC*****Seth begat Enos
3838 BC*****Enos begat Cainan
3768 BC*****Cainan begat Mahalaleel
3703 BC*****Mahalaleel begat Jared
3541 BC*****Jared begat Enoch
3476 BC*****Enoch begat Methuselah
3289 BC*****Methuselah begat Lamech
3107 BC*****Lamech begat Noah
2607 BC*****Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth
2600 BC*****Egyptian Pyramids present
2507 BC*****Noah’s Flood
2506 BC*****Noah’s Flood ends
2504 BC*****Shem begat Arphaxad
2469 BC*****Arphaxad begat Salah
2439 BC*****Salah begat Heber
2405 BC*****Heber begat Peleg
2375 BC*****Peleg begat Reu
2343 BC*****Reu begat Serug
2313 BC*****Serug begat Nahor
2284 BC*****Nahor begat Terah
2214 BC*****Terah begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran
2139 BC*****Abram 75 years old travels to land of Canaan
2128 BC*****Abram and Hagar bare Ishmael
2115 BC*****God names Abram as Abraham
2114 BC*****Abraham and Sarah bare Isaac
2054 BC*****Isaac and Rebekah bare Esau and Jacob

[link to newjerusalemcalendar.com]


Sun Jan 11/13/12
 Quoting: son of God New Jerusalem Russ


Better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. Oh sorry to late...
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Atlantis may have been destroyed by a tsunami around 12,000 years ago.

I personally think that ancient myths are based, at least partly, things that really happened.

If only the Library of Alexandria had not been burned down!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20253056


library of alexandria burned by religious fanatics.

who knows how much history destroyed by the chinese communists cultural revolution

talliban destroy ancient buhdist statues

people, try to be careful about the dogmas you follow
 Quoting: david 16910407


Also Who's version of History you Read, Or When it was written
 Quoting: strange fellow


Where do you get "your" history from?
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Read about the beginning in Genesis.

In the Garden of Eden where it all began there were five huge things happening there, these 'things' were there:

(1)God.
(Who Is Jesus The Messiah The Almighty confirmation of the revealation now known to the world in the last days. He was not alone He had His children in His foreknowledge there with Him and His mighty angels. The world that played out as we know it was already played out because He is Omnipotent, He knows the end from the beginning visa versa.)

(2)Satan.
(He used to be Lucifer God's greatest angel in heaven and because he threatened LIFE he had to be removed from heaven together with his legions, God recreated them, Lucifer became Satan and the legions became demons, they can live inside us without us realising it, their end takes place after the Great White Throne Judgement when we are all raised up for judgement, this happens after the great 1000 year millenium peace reign where Jesus/Messiah leads the new world in Person in the flesh. Satan and his legions are bound during this 1000 year peace time.)

(3) Adam.
(God spoke Adam into existence by word of mouth and God walked with Adam for 800 years before He was put into flesh. God took sand from the earth and spoke his flesh into existence and put his spirit into his flesh.)

(4) Eve.
(God put Adam into a deep sleep and took out one of his ribs and created Eve from his rib.)

(5) The Serpent.
(God took a reptile and recreated it into a look-a-like man, a beast veiled in flesh, and it was the Serpent. The physical difference between Adam and the serpent was not noticeable.)

The Tree Of Life in the garden was and Is Christ (God and His eternal exquisite ceation) the fruits of His Spirit is borne from Him and dwells in the people, love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, kindness, faith, meekness and temperance the exquisite spiritual material used to build a super-race.

The tree of knowledge of good and evil in the garden was Eve's womb, we are the fruit born through sex. Adam and Eve were told not to touch it. God had not yet shown them how to use it under His permissable Order for populating the earth as a child is born from the act and a predestinated spirit already created by God needs to go into that child, a child born to enjoy the earth and grow up into a young adult. Adam and Eve were created not to die but to remain in their adult youth eternally the same way Adam was put into his flesh. The spirit cannot age like the flesh ages as we know it, the spirit gets better and better. The flesh only aged AFTER disobenience to God's plain instruction given which is sin as we know it, do not believe, thus compromising LIFE. After disobedience they lived for about 1000 years then died but could have lived eternally without experiencing death had they listened, and would have kept their innocence by not doing thus not knowing evil. The disobedience opened the gates of evil as it is now known.

Satan went into the serpent and beguiled Eve and the serpent had sex with her then she showed Adam and he had sex with her, she gave birth to twins, Cain the serpent's son and Able, Adam's son. The serpent had no intentions of sex until Satan went into him and made him do it.

This changed the order on earth and God had to recreated the whole order on earth to accommodate Adam and Eve who now know evil. Before that the animals were not violent and there were no thistles and thorns. God could not kill Adam and Eve as it would have killed Himself as well as they were made in His image. As the world has played itself out, the plan of saving people materialised and the history as recorded in heaven, earth and hell speaks for itself.

God has three Bibles:

(1) The stars in the heavens, astronomy (humans ruined it with astrology).

(2) His Pyramid (humans ruined it with Egyptology).

(3) The Holy Bible as provided by King James for the whole world. (humans ruined it by changing His Word through disobendience).

All sins are foregivable except for the blasphemy of The Holy Spirit. Our mixed and man made laws do not provide for this and Christians live by their own order given by God and render to Caesar what is Caesar's, a pain in the neck.

The human race was wiped-out in Noah's flood and one of the men in the ark carried the serpent seed in his loins and when the earth got repopulated it was again made easy for Satan to beguile people and work towards his own empire on earth, that is why we can all be reborn by the Blood of Jesus Who died for us all and came to save the world He created. He made a promise to Abraham and without that promise no person on earth could have been saved, there has been a spiritual warfare all the way for the inheritance of mother earth. Those who's names are written in the Lamb's Book of Life inherit the earth no matter who that person is. Millions and millions of people are still saved outside the predestinated chosen people when God separates the 'sheep' from the 'goats'.

We just need to look at the warfare and see the shape of the rockets, and the men's same shape, it is the phallic symbol of a serpent. Sex under God's permissable will is allowed under an Order given, but it is not His perfect will, His perfect will is to speak His own Image into existence as He did speaking Adam's spirit into existence, when Christ rose up from the dead he was in another body, flesh and could walk through walls and have a meal. Before that, Christ Himself was tempted in the flesh and God the Omnipotence protected Him as He is our Saviour Who is Himself and His Holy Spirit is given, which is also Himself to keep us and guide us and protect us. This is the Grace dispensation for the time we were born into and this amazing Grace phenomina, a Wonder of all Wonders, blends into eternity.

The serpent was cursed in the Garden of Eden and God recreated it into a snake as we know it, our ancestor, the missing link that cannot be found, as it is found in us by the way we behave. Every crime taking place on earth is traced back to the Garden of Eden when a woman allowed herself to be beguiled and a man failing to hold God's instruction first when he chose his wife's instruction above God's instruction. The fall of the human race as it broke the Order. Christ is the head of the home and the husband, the wife falls under her husband's protection, her place is with the children and the home with strict marriage laws in place. This Order allows for no delingquents and no old age homes. We can see the chaos Satan's food !

Christ's return was to look out for THE SIGN he reads the thoughts and intents of our minds and hearts performing great miracles and fulfilling Bible prophecies and the event changes the whole world. When events and prophecies are not accepted dispite proof thereof it makes God a liar and the rejection of it turns His Word into wormwood, judgement on the human race is expected thereafter, as the people (influenced by serpent behaviour) made Him a liar.

God only speaks direct to His prophets, that is the order on earth, prophets speak to the people and the people listen. The Grace period was given seven prophets covering the west and the world, and the last two prophets for the east in the end days of sin this is the true vine that comes through the tree of Life, supernatural events where the windows of heaven are opened. False prophets prove to be false in the end as such living and such sacrificing is not accepted by God they were beguiled by Satan resulting in much suffering of the population.
 Quoting: ninnie 33139113


You are quoting and being fooled by alien ideaology planted here after the earth rebounded from the destruction of Atlantis...

At the time of Atlantis they were overt and operating in plain view of everyone on the planet...

After the rebound. they switched to covert, and established this hierarchial dogma called religion...

A very clever control mechanism - but, absolute BS...

No garden of eden, as there were many inhabitants all over this planet when they discovered it...

They were uni-gender, until these aliens decided to split them into two genders, and cut up the original 12 strand dna structure... The so-called junk dna in your system are the remnants of these strands...

It is also the origin of your adam and eve story...

You are being fooled on a grand scale...
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Truth ^^
This planet is war booty. we are remnants of what was here before.

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one thing to consider is that there are far more methods of dating something than just carbon dating.

nobody responded to what I said about Michael Cremo's book Forbidden Archaology.

the archaologists found this one body under a lava flow and they were able to determine based on the local geology that that lava came from an eruption at least 300,000 years ago and this modern human with tools was buried under that lava and recovered in modern times. The establishment pushed that whole excavation into obscurity, they buried the info, they didn't publish about it, they didn't peer review it. they just shelved it and hoped that the world would forget.
 Quoting: Ninja G 29793348


There is no such thing as the geological column as drawn in your science books. It's circular reasoning. They date the fossils by the strata of rock and they date the rock from the fossils. It's stupid. Petrified trees have been found that had grown through layers of sediment that are said to be millions of years old. These layers of deposits aren't millions of years old they were all deposited at the same time.

It doesn't take millions of years to petrify anything go to google and type in petrified boot. While your on that trail look up all of the various objects that have been found contained in coal that is said to be millions of years old. Such as bells and hammers and even dolls.

A few thousand years ago there was a big ass flood that destroyed everything. There were never cave men, although there may have been men who lived in caves. If you live in an apartment are you an "apartment man"? From the moment men were on this planet there was advanced culture and technology.
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i read his book,but years ago,wasn't some female archeologist disowned by her peers as she found something in a dig that was literally impossible to fit in with their version of history? and it's common knowledge anything dubious ,they are left to rot in the museum basements.
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