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Eyes Wide Shut -- A Model of Monarch Programming

 
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In short, I appreciate Kubrick for making Eyes Wide Shut. I'm really not interested in the film for its own sake. I'm much more interested in how I can use the film for my own practical uses. It's a very brief and concise how-to on chaos magick and a thousand points of light. It's exactly the same idea as how a group of playground bullies manipulate and abuse children in grade school, just with a bit more abstraction. And that's what these Illuminati really are. They are passive-agressive snakes using playground techniques.

What's the solution? Out-magick the magicians. Simple.
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Out magick the magicians? lol. How about making yourself a better person instead? Humans are so messed up as it is, they dont need any help

Be a great parent and spouse, raise your kids right. Make moral choices and wise purchases. Be a human that contributes something back to society rather than takes. Be a person that can be trusted by ones neighbors and ones friends.

If every person watched themselves, wed have no need of government, not need of laws, no need of rules, contracts, regulations, its humans that are messed up, that is all.
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Why shouldn't we out-magick the magicians? Isn't that exactly the means by which Moses led the Children of Israel out of Egyptian bondage? I know of no other way to escape the gods and powers of Egypt or NWO but with a superior magick. If that is the pattern of Scripture, am I not to pursue such means of rectification in Xristos?

I have already solved Crowley's code. I don't know how much plainer the Spirit has to make it to me that I am meant to be a part of the Great Rectification of our times which will annihilate the Man of Sin with the Blast of the Breath of His Mouth and the Illumination of His Parousia in the Kingdom, the Power and the Glory unto the Aeons of Aeons. Amen.

And the kings of earth will howl in terror and say, Let the mountains cover us to hide us from the Wrath of the Ram! For the Time of His Wrath is come!
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That was a nice flowery, and powerful Biblical style rhetoric you gave there! But let me assure you, the truth of the matter is that most of the main bodied religions were meant to encode scientific and astronomical code to pass down to further generations. Yes, Moses led the Hebrews out of Egypt, but that is because they had no freedom of religion there to build the tabernacle in the wilderness which was basically one big sun dial with all the implements positioned at a certain hour.

We have freedom of religion in America and Europe and theres no comparison to any times of oppression, we are not North Korea or China or parts of the Middle East. When you live in a country that will oppress your freedom of religion, THEN pull out that Biblical example.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


Therefore, I pull out that Biblical example at this time. Life isn't about freedom of religion. It's about Truth. And I have lived in a country (USA) that has done all it can to conceil the truth while putting on a facade of freedom and liberty.

I'm not interested in freedom of religion, I'm interested in sending 10 plagues on the NWO and destroying all the gods of Egypt and Babylon, you sons of a Whore. I'm not here to sip cofee with you at Starbucks. I'm here to send you straight to the abyss of hell in full battle array and chariots sinking in the Red Sea.

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Out magick the magicians? lol. How about making yourself a better person instead? Humans are so messed up as it is, they dont need any help

Be a great parent and spouse, raise your kids right. Make moral choices and wise purchases. Be a human that contributes something back to society rather than takes. Be a person that can be trusted by ones neighbors and ones friends.

If every person watched themselves, wed have no need of government, not need of laws, no need of rules, contracts, regulations, its humans that are messed up, that is all.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


Why shouldn't we out-magick the magicians? Isn't that exactly the means by which Moses led the Children of Israel out of Egyptian bondage? I know of no other way to escape the gods and powers of Egypt or NWO but with a superior magick. If that is the pattern of Scripture, am I not to pursue such means of rectification in Xristos?

I have already solved Crowley's code. I don't know how much plainer the Spirit has to make it to me that I am meant to be a part of the Great Rectification of our times which will annihilate the Man of Sin with the Blast of the Breath of His Mouth and the Illumination of His Parousia in the Kingdom, the Power and the Glory unto the Aeons of Aeons. Amen.

And the kings of earth will howl in terror and say, Let the mountains cover us to hide us from the Wrath of the Ram! For the Time of His Wrath is come!
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That was a nice flowery, and powerful Biblical style rhetoric you gave there! But let me assure you, the truth of the matter is that most of the main bodied religions were meant to encode scientific and astronomical code to pass down to further generations. Yes, Moses led the Hebrews out of Egypt, but that is because they had no freedom of religion there to build the tabernacle in the wilderness which was basically one big sun dial with all the implements positioned at a certain hour.

We have freedom of religion in America and Europe and theres no comparison to any times of oppression, we are not North Korea or China or parts of the Middle East. When you live in a country that will oppress your freedom of religion, THEN pull out that Biblical example.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


Therefore, I pull out that Biblical example at this time. Life isn't about freedom of religion. It's about Truth. And I have lived in a country (USA) that has done all it can to conceil the truth while putting on a facade of freedom and liberty.

I'm not interested in freedom of religion, I'm interested in sending 10 plagues on the NWO and destroying all the gods of Egypt and Babylon, you sons of a Whore. I'm not here to sip cofee with you at Starbucks. I'm here to send you straight to the abyss of hell in full battle array and chariots sinking in the Red Sea.
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LOL !!! Youre making me laugh so hard my sides hurt. How do you propose yourself pulling off this plan? Are the archangels on your side to fight the evil illuminati? if they were so evil theyd change their name to Darkinati.lol

If we dont paint the blood of the Spring lamb on our door, whats going to happen? Do you even know what Abyss (abussos) really means? lol... (hint) James Cameron descended into one with his submarine.
Heb. tehom, 'the primeval ocean' (Gen. 1:2; Ps. 24:2; etc.) as 'abyss'

And you paint, this country so evil. I guarantee, you spending one day in Sudan, Chad, Sierra Leonne, Afghanistan, Haiti, even slums of India, youd be coming back to kiss our ground.
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Why shouldn't we out-magick the magicians? Isn't that exactly the means by which Moses led the Children of Israel out of Egyptian bondage? I know of no other way to escape the gods and powers of Egypt or NWO but with a superior magick. If that is the pattern of Scripture, am I not to pursue such means of rectification in Xristos?

I have already solved Crowley's code. I don't know how much plainer the Spirit has to make it to me that I am meant to be a part of the Great Rectification of our times which will annihilate the Man of Sin with the Blast of the Breath of His Mouth and the Illumination of His Parousia in the Kingdom, the Power and the Glory unto the Aeons of Aeons. Amen.

And the kings of earth will howl in terror and say, Let the mountains cover us to hide us from the Wrath of the Ram! For the Time of His Wrath is come!
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That was a nice flowery, and powerful Biblical style rhetoric you gave there! But let me assure you, the truth of the matter is that most of the main bodied religions were meant to encode scientific and astronomical code to pass down to further generations. Yes, Moses led the Hebrews out of Egypt, but that is because they had no freedom of religion there to build the tabernacle in the wilderness which was basically one big sun dial with all the implements positioned at a certain hour.

We have freedom of religion in America and Europe and theres no comparison to any times of oppression, we are not North Korea or China or parts of the Middle East. When you live in a country that will oppress your freedom of religion, THEN pull out that Biblical example.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


Therefore, I pull out that Biblical example at this time. Life isn't about freedom of religion. It's about Truth. And I have lived in a country (USA) that has done all it can to conceil the truth while putting on a facade of freedom and liberty.

I'm not interested in freedom of religion, I'm interested in sending 10 plagues on the NWO and destroying all the gods of Egypt and Babylon, you sons of a Whore. I'm not here to sip cofee with you at Starbucks. I'm here to send you straight to the abyss of hell in full battle array and chariots sinking in the Red Sea.
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LOL !!! Youre making me laugh so hard my sides hurt. How do you propose yourself pulling off this plan? Are the archangels on your side to fight the evil illuminati? if they were so evil theyd change their name to Darkinati.lol

If we dont paint the blood of the Spring lamb on our door, whats going to happen? Do you even know what Abyss (abussos) really means? lol... (hint) James Cameron descended into one with his submarine.
Heb. tehom, 'the primeval ocean' (Gen. 1:2; Ps. 24:2; etc.) as 'abyss'

And you paint, this country so evil. I guarantee, you spending one day in Sudan, Chad, Sierra Leonne, Afghanistan, Haiti, even slums of India, youd be coming back to kiss our ground.
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It isn't your ground. And yes, Archangels are involved, in case you haven't heard.
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I need to criticize and compliment the OP.

You have cracked the movie wide open, but you have yet to really make sense of it.

That said, kudos on stating the film is about the audience, not the film. Kubrick's 2001 was not even about space, it was about the person watching it. There are great YouTube videos that explain his methods.

So far, your explanation is too schizophrenic. You have cracked open the atom, but have yet to describe the junk inside.

Please let us know when you figure out the junk.
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I need to criticize and compliment the OP.

You have cracked the movie wide open, but you have yet to really make sense of it.

That said, kudos on stating the film is about the audience, not the film. Kubrick's 2001 was not even about space, it was about the person watching it. There are great YouTube videos that explain his methods.

So far, your explanation is too schizophrenic. You have cracked open the atom, but have yet to describe the junk inside.

Please let us know when you figure out the junk.
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As far as the junk is concerned, it's largely irrelevant. Kubrick's 'invention' is loosely based upon the 1926 German Novella 'Traumeville', or Dream Story.

Like all Kubrick work, the Title is never actually what it seems to be. It is always Kubrick's total reworking of a piece. It's like he draws a scetch of a famous painting and then completely repaints it according to his own needs. For example, The Shining was not at all what Stephen King wrote. Kubrick took a work, gutted it of its inards, took the shell and then crammed it with the story he wanted and needed to tell.

So it is with Eyes Wide Shut and Dream Story. Kubrick took a scetch and followed a sequence of events that generally fell along the story line and then showed how a similar series of events could have been (and is) set into motion with Monarch programming in today's world. Everything in Eyes Wide Shut is symbol. Everything is abstract, overarching and archetypical of the major Monarch program.

The plot is useless. In fact, the story itself is useless. The only thing that matters in Eyes Wide Shut is the sequence of events leading to a point. There is only technique in Eyes Wide Shut. It is a clinic and a documentary thinly vieled as fiction.

The sex is dry and robotic, so the critics claim. This is intentional. The story isn't about sex. The story isn't about Satanic cults. The story isn't about love. The story isn't about the 7 deadly sins. There is no important story except the story of Monarch mind control and how it works. That's the whole point. And you either get it and use it or you don't. The end.

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That was a nice flowery, and powerful Biblical style rhetoric you gave there! But let me assure you, the truth of the matter is that most of the main bodied religions were meant to encode scientific and astronomical code to pass down to further generations. Yes, Moses led the Hebrews out of Egypt, but that is because they had no freedom of religion there to build the tabernacle in the wilderness which was basically one big sun dial with all the implements positioned at a certain hour.

We have freedom of religion in America and Europe and theres no comparison to any times of oppression, we are not North Korea or China or parts of the Middle East. When you live in a country that will oppress your freedom of religion, THEN pull out that Biblical example.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


Therefore, I pull out that Biblical example at this time. Life isn't about freedom of religion. It's about Truth. And I have lived in a country (USA) that has done all it can to conceil the truth while putting on a facade of freedom and liberty.

I'm not interested in freedom of religion, I'm interested in sending 10 plagues on the NWO and destroying all the gods of Egypt and Babylon, you sons of a Whore. I'm not here to sip cofee with you at Starbucks. I'm here to send you straight to the abyss of hell in full battle array and chariots sinking in the Red Sea.
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LOL !!! Youre making me laugh so hard my sides hurt. How do you propose yourself pulling off this plan? Are the archangels on your side to fight the evil illuminati? if they were so evil theyd change their name to Darkinati.lol

If we dont paint the blood of the Spring lamb on our door, whats going to happen? Do you even know what Abyss (abussos) really means? lol... (hint) James Cameron descended into one with his submarine.
Heb. tehom, 'the primeval ocean' (Gen. 1:2; Ps. 24:2; etc.) as 'abyss'

And you paint, this country so evil. I guarantee, you spending one day in Sudan, Chad, Sierra Leonne, Afghanistan, Haiti, even slums of India, youd be coming back to kiss our ground.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


It isn't your ground. And yes, Archangels are involved, in case you haven't heard.
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Archangels represent the four cardinal directions. I would learn the points of the compass and the real meaning of the wise men if I were you..

It is our ground btw, as dictated by God. It was his blessings which brought the founding Fathers to establish our Government.
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Should I learn the real meaning of the Magi?

Wasn't Daniel the Prophet appointed Chief of all Magi while imprisoned in Babylon?

Matthew wrote of Magi and Wise Men. Did he need to know the true meaning of Wise Men as well?

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Here is a 12 pointed star in a circle.

In Eyes Wide Shut, there is also a 12 pointed star in a circle formed by 12 godess forms. These are angles, these are months, these are the signs of the zodiac. 12+1=13, ACHAD, ARARITA. And the Star has Twelve Points, and these Points are One with the High Priest.

I'm supposing they are sent out and counter-ecliptic order according to the motions of the circumambulations of the incense. Cruize's character gets who? Miss December I presume?

[link to www.claypoolehexsigns.com]

Now the magick circle has changed. This is the Magick Circle of the Tau. That is sexual initiation. This was one done as the Rose and Cross in bygone times. Crowley changed it into the Babalon working, which is probably what it was used for even by primitive Rosicrucians. But here it is used as the initiation point of the (unwitting) candidate into the order of Babylon.

[link to hyperstition.abstractdynamics.org]

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Nice job, friend.
I concur. I also have been recently seeking a copy of this film. I have only seen it like twice or so when I checked it out from the Library awhile back. I felt the male character was being played just as you describe.
I feel you have connected many dots that were resonating in the background. I will continue my quest to secure a copy of the film.
"They cannot see what's-up if They are looking down." (TastyThoughts)
"Something is smelly! Something is smelly, like an old barnacle encrusted shoe washing ashore in the middle of summer." (TastyThoughts)
"Yes happy Earth day. Now go tell the wicked to stop damaging the Human Species therefore/and the Earth; For, they are discombobulating the entire Universe and upsetting the Most High God." (TastyThoughts)
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Magi + Christmas + Star of Bethlehem + Eyes Wide Shut + Monarch + Zodiac + 12 Point Star

8 Point Star
12 Point Star
Aries.
December
7 Guards
7 Virtues
7 Vices
7 Planets
Virgo
Mars
Gold,
Frankincense,
Myrrh,
Jupiter,
Moon,
Sun,
7th House
Winter Solstice


So, yes. There is one important question that remains in Eyes Wide Shut: what's going on with all the Christmas Stars and Christmas Trees?

I have a hunch it's a lot more than a portreyal of the crass commercialisation of Christmas like the critics have claimed. The Christmas Tree appears so much in EWS, it could be considered as a character with a silent dialogue, telling its own story. It's almost like the Christmas Trees in Eyes Wide Shut are saying to the viewer, Why aren't you looking at me? I'm right here!

Strangely enough, even with all this Christmas 'stuff', it doesn't feel like Christmas in Eyes Wide Shut. It sort of feels like the end of January, in the bleakest, most boring midwinter on a Tuesday. The film is dry, soulless, tasteless, ammoral and mind-numbing. All of these elements work toward the intended effect--brainwashing. Even the women in the sex orgy seem so disinterested and disconnected that I swear, I believe I will be impotant for some time to come. It's like they could be at a Satanic masquerade rite or crocheting, whichever came first and both are about as amusing.

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Nice job, friend.
I concur. I also have been recently seeking a copy of this film. I have only seen it like twice or so when I checked it out from the Library awhile back. I felt the male character was being played just as you describe.
I feel you have connected many dots that were resonating in the background. I will continue my quest to secure a copy of the film.
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In regard to connecting the dots, during the waltz scene, with all the thousand lights in the backdrop, the viewer is apparently urged to play connect the dots.

Kubrick not only invites us, but nearly demands that we play connect the dots.

Where are we going ladies (in the Red, White and Blue of the American flag, notwithstanding. Yes, I caught that detail, thank you)? That is the question.

We're going where the rainbow ends. Where does the rainbow end? I have no idea, but when I was in preschool, they use to tell me it ended with a pot of gold. However, not all that glitters is gold, and there's a lot of tinsel in this film.

So we chase rainbows, play connect the dots and go to masquerade balls. It's all fun and games till the call girls are so bored they were rather die of a heroin overdose than live anymore in this boring self-aggrandising retirement home for the perpetually listless.

I really don't know if Mandy is such a hero afterall. She could be saying, No, no! Don't kill him, kill ME! They shoot horses, don't they?

Sheesh, man. If I were running that party, I would be insulted. Not even the whore of Babylon wants to be there.

Screw it.

And this is how Cruize and Kidman's characters get their kicks? Wow. That IS yuppy. I always suspected the rich really were bored to death. I may have been more right than I knew.



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Interesting theory on this movie.

Like most I found it incredibly boring.
What I found absolutely IRRITATING about it was THE MUSIC or soundtrack.

Its was way too jarring and discordant and unharmonious.

What is your take on the placement of these aural irritations throughtout the movie? Done purposefully and why do you think?
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Interesting theory on this movie.

Like most I found it incredibly boring.
What I found absolutely IRRITATING about it was THE MUSIC or soundtrack.

Its was way too jarring and discordant and unharmonious.

What is your take on the placement of these aural irritations throughtout the movie? Done purposefully and why do you think?
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Yes. The music is an important element. It has all the color and flavor of day-old, leftover oatmeal. It is discordant and maddening. That's one of the keys of Monarch training. In fact, it is one of the elements of trauma-based induction.

The music in the sex rite sounds like a 75 year old Catholic priest having his first orgasm to a Sears and Robuck catalogue while in a druken stupor from too much altar wine.

The Muses aren't amused. And neither are we as the audience. We're being put to sleep while having our chest hairs plucked out one by one. Sensory deprivation, color flooding, discordant and disorienting music, etc...these are all the elements that work together to induct the victim into trance, and a bad trip it is too. The doctor gets 'iniated' and so do we as audience members. The difference is that we're a lot more bored than he was. His torments and traumas are not ours. His little petty peep-show lusts annoy me instead of excite me. I would rather have a philosophy discussion on Sartre with the hookers than cavort with them.

It would have been better if Kidman's last trigger word were not 'Fuck', but 'Nap'.

I can only hope Nightingale was put out of his misery.

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The magick of sex occurs at a level the profane cannot understand. Its not two bodies fucking . Its the sex that occurs between spirit and flesh, One person and God. Only one person is needed for the true marriage of heiros gamos

This true meaning is hidden from the profane who can only think of things at the flesh level.
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Oh! How wonderful!

We have a world run by the "non-profane" and look at how SHITTY it is run.

Full of death, black-mail and corruption.

The Queen even knights a pedophile ring leader Jimmy Saville.

You people are garbage incarnated in your pretentiousness.

FILTHY HYPOCRITICAL ARROGANT TRASH.
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To them, anyone who does not worship the Beast and Babylon the Mother of Whores and Abominations of Earth is 'profane'. They speak in double-speak.

But hey, what did you expect? They're Satanists. That's what they do. They call white black and good evil. They are Babylon lost in the valley of pyramids, mirages and the Land of Confusion.

I don't know why people expect the archenemies of the masses to act like friends.
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Please, OP, do go on! You can help so many, this is important! Thank you deeply!

hf
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Here is a 12 pointed star in a circle.

In Eyes Wide Shut, there is also a 12 pointed star in a circle formed by 12 godess forms. These are angles, these are months, these are the signs of the zodiac. 12+1=13, ACHAD, ARARITA. And the Star has Twelve Points, and these Points are One with the High Priest.

I'm supposing they are sent out and counter-ecliptic order according to the motions of the circumambulations of the incense. Cruize's character gets who? Miss December I presume?

[link to www.claypoolehexsigns.com]

Now the magick circle has changed. This is the Magick Circle of the Tau. That is sexual initiation. This was one done as the Rose and Cross in bygone times. Crowley changed it into the Babalon working, which is probably what it was used for even by primitive Rosicrucians. But here it is used as the initiation point of the (unwitting) candidate into the order of Babylon.

[link to hyperstition.abstractdynamics.org]
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You seem so good at symbols!
How would you interpret this?
Look at 1 hour 42 min and 33 sec - 39 sec.


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Sorry, OP, but you have not solved this movie. I believe your thesis statement about the film to be a breakthrough, but the body of your argument that follows is too dense and scattered.

Let those in this thread help you solve the riddle, rather than you shoving your stream of consciousness regarding the film down our throats.
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The magick of sex occurs at a level the profane cannot understand. Its not two bodies fucking . Its the sex that occurs between spirit and flesh, One person and God. Only one person is needed for the true marriage of heiros gamos

This true meaning is hidden from the profane who can only think of things at the flesh level.
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Oh! How wonderful!

We have a world run by the "non-profane" and look at how SHITTY it is run.

Full of death, black-mail and corruption.

The Queen even knights a pedophile ring leader Jimmy Saville.

You people are garbage incarnated in your pretentiousness.

FILTHY HYPOCRITICAL ARROGANT TRASH.
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To them, anyone who does not worship the Beast and Babylon the Mother of Whores and Abominations of Earth is 'profane'. They speak in double-speak.

But hey, what did you expect? They're Satanists. That's what they do. They call white black and good evil. They are Babylon lost in the valley of pyramids, mirages and the Land of Confusion.

I don't know why people expect the archenemies of the masses to act like friends.
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Please, OP, do go on! You can help so many, this is important! Thank you deeply!

hf
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What else do you want me to say about Eyes Wide Shut? It's the Wizard of Oz on Heroin. That may well summarize the Illuminati.

Personally, I think I can find a much better and more inspiring use for Monarch in the world.

Kubrick should have just called the film The Complete Idiot's Guide to Monarch MKUltra and left it at that.
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Here is a 12 pointed star in a circle.

In Eyes Wide Shut, there is also a 12 pointed star in a circle formed by 12 godess forms. These are angles, these are months, these are the signs of the zodiac. 12+1=13, ACHAD, ARARITA. And the Star has Twelve Points, and these Points are One with the High Priest.

I'm supposing they are sent out and counter-ecliptic order according to the motions of the circumambulations of the incense. Cruize's character gets who? Miss December I presume?

[link to www.claypoolehexsigns.com]

Now the magick circle has changed. This is the Magick Circle of the Tau. That is sexual initiation. This was one done as the Rose and Cross in bygone times. Crowley changed it into the Babalon working, which is probably what it was used for even by primitive Rosicrucians. But here it is used as the initiation point of the (unwitting) candidate into the order of Babylon.

[link to hyperstition.abstractdynamics.org]
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You seem so good at symbols!
How would you interpret this?
Look at 1 hour 42 min and 33 sec - 39 sec.


[link to www.youtube.com]
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Yeah, what you've got here looks like your average Asian IChing Magic Circle. I don't know, just on a glimpse looks Tibetan via China or Japan or something. Complete with whirlers, notheless. A basic elemental invocation and rite for one world Luciferian order and crap like that. You know, Gog and Magog gathering all armies together for the Great Battle and that sort of thing. Gog and Magog of course being represented by all armies of the East, of which the Order of Eastern Star and Illuminati have joined forces. I'd have to analyse it further, but the whole matter bores me. Anytime the conquest of the world comes down to Rihanna, Coldplay and Jay-Z being involved with whirlers on magic circles, I tend to lose interest rather rapidly. These enemies are not worthy of my skill or time.

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The Muses aren't amused. And neither are we as the audience. We're being put to sleep while having our chest hairs plucked out one by one. Sensory deprivation, color flooding, discordant and disorienting music, etc...these are all the elements that work together to induct the victim into trance, and a bad trip it is too.

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Sounds like Life in these United States at the moment.

I think I'm starting to get it.

I think.
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Sorry, OP, but you have not solved this movie. I believe your thesis statement about the film to be a breakthrough, but the body of your argument that follows is too dense and scattered.

Let those in this thread help you solve the riddle, rather than you shoving your stream of consciousness regarding the film down our throats.
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Is that the only dig you could come up with? After all this, you're attacking my stream of consciousness and thinking out loud.

That's the worst ad hominem I've ever heard. I could make up a better logical fallacy and debate distraction in my sleep.

Aweful. Come up with something better. I'm having coffee.

Besides, what if I want my thesis to be scattered and apparently random?

Sometimes we're blue. Sometimes we're green. Sometimes we're yellow. Sometimes we're red (though I could be redder if in a grape vinard). But you get the idea.

The thread is fragmented, dissociated, altered, perfect for its utility.

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For your listening enjoyment and mind-numbing fulfillment, I post Grey Clouds from Eyes Wide Shut.

[It is a proven fact that Nora the Piano Playing Cat could (and has) played a more interesting piece of music.]

Enjoy this piece without biting your fingernails off or pulling your hair out. I hear it works wonders if your into self-induced trauma and torture.



Here you'll notice I am 'switching' to my Cat alter.



There is only one consolation that I have with Eyes Wide Shut. It is that no matter how boring, mind-numbing and inane that movie may have been and with all the Monarch included, it still did not even do half of the permenant damage and brainwashing that Out of Africa and the Horse Whisperer did to me.

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Interesting..immured in the wall. That would be poetic justice.


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Interesting theory on this movie.

Like most I found it incredibly boring.
What I found absolutely IRRITATING about it was THE MUSIC or soundtrack.

Its was way too jarring and discordant and unharmonious.

What is your take on the placement of these aural irritations throughtout the movie? Done purposefully and why do you think?
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Yes. The music is an important element. It has all the color and flavor of day-old, leftover oatmeal. It is discordant and maddening. That's one of the keys of Monarch training. In fact, it is one of the elements of trauma-based induction.

The music in the sex rite sounds like a 75 year old Catholic priest having his first orgasm to a Sears and Robuck catalogue while in a druken stupor from too much altar wine.

The Muses aren't amused. And neither are we as the audience. We're being put to sleep while having our chest hairs plucked out one by one. Sensory deprivation, color flooding, discordant and disorienting music, etc...these are all the elements that work together to induct the victim into trance, and a bad trip it is too. The doctor gets 'iniated' and so do we as audience members. The difference is that we're a lot more bored than he was. His torments and traumas are not ours. His little petty peep-show lusts annoy me instead of excite me. I would rather have a philosophy discussion on Sartre with the hookers than cavort with them.

It would have been better if Kidman's last trigger word were not 'Fuck', but 'Nap'.

I can only hope Nightingale was put out of his misery.
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You fellows didn't enjoy the soundtrack? I loved the Jocelyn Pook stuff and the rest of the soundtrack as well. The lighting in the films with all the Cristmas lights and the kind of warm glow was nice too. Seems to me it all has kind of an energy to it and is soothing.
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Interesting theory on this movie.

Like most I found it incredibly boring.
What I found absolutely IRRITATING about it was THE MUSIC or soundtrack.

Its was way too jarring and discordant and unharmonious.

What is your take on the placement of these aural irritations throughtout the movie? Done purposefully and why do you think?
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Yes. The music is an important element. It has all the color and flavor of day-old, leftover oatmeal. It is discordant and maddening. That's one of the keys of Monarch training. In fact, it is one of the elements of trauma-based induction.

The music in the sex rite sounds like a 75 year old Catholic priest having his first orgasm to a Sears and Robuck catalogue while in a druken stupor from too much altar wine.

The Muses aren't amused. And neither are we as the audience. We're being put to sleep while having our chest hairs plucked out one by one. Sensory deprivation, color flooding, discordant and disorienting music, etc...these are all the elements that work together to induct the victim into trance, and a bad trip it is too. The doctor gets 'iniated' and so do we as audience members. The difference is that we're a lot more bored than he was. His torments and traumas are not ours. His little petty peep-show lusts annoy me instead of excite me. I would rather have a philosophy discussion on Sartre with the hookers than cavort with them.

It would have been better if Kidman's last trigger word were not 'Fuck', but 'Nap'.

I can only hope Nightingale was put out of his misery.
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You fellows didn't enjoy the soundtrack? I loved the Jocelyn Pook stuff and the rest of the soundtrack as well. The lighting in the films with all the Cristmas lights and the kind of warm glow was nice too. Seems to me it all has kind of an energy to it and is soothing.
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It may be due to my own psychology and world-view, but I honestely never even once felt a hint of 'soothing' energy in Eyes Wide Shut. It had all the warmth of a museum displaying dinosaur bones. I can't think of a film with a more pronounced feeling of Mercurial chill and Saturnine melencholy. I found the sountrack to be numbing, confusing and catatonic in quality.

I honestly wanted to see the High Priest hung from a noose made of piano wire. If the sountrack were a beverage, it would be old coffee left sitting out all day and at room temperature without sugar or cream.

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Interesting theory on this movie.

Like most I found it incredibly boring.
What I found absolutely IRRITATING about it was THE MUSIC or soundtrack.

Its was way too jarring and discordant and unharmonious.

What is your take on the placement of these aural irritations throughtout the movie? Done purposefully and why do you think?
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Yes. The music is an important element. It has all the color and flavor of day-old, leftover oatmeal. It is discordant and maddening. That's one of the keys of Monarch training. In fact, it is one of the elements of trauma-based induction.

The music in the sex rite sounds like a 75 year old Catholic priest having his first orgasm to a Sears and Robuck catalogue while in a druken stupor from too much altar wine.

The Muses aren't amused. And neither are we as the audience. We're being put to sleep while having our chest hairs plucked out one by one. Sensory deprivation, color flooding, discordant and disorienting music, etc...these are all the elements that work together to induct the victim into trance, and a bad trip it is too. The doctor gets 'iniated' and so do we as audience members. The difference is that we're a lot more bored than he was. His torments and traumas are not ours. His little petty peep-show lusts annoy me instead of excite me. I would rather have a philosophy discussion on Sartre with the hookers than cavort with them.

It would have been better if Kidman's last trigger word were not 'Fuck', but 'Nap'.

I can only hope Nightingale was put out of his misery.
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You fellows didn't enjoy the soundtrack? I loved the Jocelyn Pook stuff and the rest of the soundtrack as well. The lighting in the films with all the Cristmas lights and the kind of warm glow was nice too. Seems to me it all has kind of an energy to it and is soothing.
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It may be due to my own psychology and world-view, but I honestely never even once felt a hint of 'soothing' energy in Eyes Wide Shut. It had all the warmth of a museum displaying dinosaur bones. I can't think of a film with a more pronounced feeling of Mercurial chill and Saturnine melencholy. I found the sountrack to be numbing, confusing and catatonic in quality.

I honestly wanted to see the High Priest hung from a noose made of piano wire. If the sountrack were a beverage, it would be old coffee left sitting out all day and at room temperature without sugar or cream.
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cruise You have a fine way with words OP. it's been a pleasure to read your thread.
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You have not picked up on the most important element...why Tom Cruise is called away to his patient who has died, home? Why he is called away the same night as the party?

The key is Nicole Kidman's character. She is needed at the party. Tom Cruise needs to be away so she can do what she is programmed for.

Why does a doctor need to go to the home of an already pronounced dead patient...a patient who probably traveled in the same circles as the elites at the party? Why is his daughter, who is at the house with her husband suddenly and ham fistedly attempts to initiate sex with him?

To distract him so Nicole Kidman's character can do her duty.

Her character is already "initiated". That is why her character is named "Alice".

What Tom Cruise saw as a Christmas party early in the film was a pre-party to the ritual. That is why the piano player is there. He is initiated as well. Well...partially initiated. He serves them, but in a capacity closer to the truth.

That is why while the models distract him, his wife dances with the wealthy, older man. That is why she acts almost spacey while flirting with him. Her alter is being activated for the big party.

Tom Cruise is more out of the loop than we think as the viewer. We assume people like his housewife and the pianist who dropped out of medical school are below him, when in fact they are more in the loop than he his.

The prostitute that is dying of aids serves as a microcosm for the doctors place in society. The rich man at the Christmas party has models and beauty pageant queens as his prostitutes. Whereas Cruise has the prostitute of the Everyman. Both prostitutes die at the hands of the elites, but one does directly and the other does indirectly.

Even his wife is only his wife because they allow it. he basically handles her and takes care of her. in the end she is their property. she was just like the model at the party and was there to be used sexually. We as viewers do not know this because she is masked.

Now why the piano player leads him to the ritual...I have yet to figure out.

Perhaps the piano player ( an artist) is reference to Kubrick himself. Maybe Kubrick, like the Piano player, was trying to reveal the truth to Tom Cruise (us)

Perhaps he did it as such because 1) who would believe such a crazy story and 2) to try and survive revealing it by just giving Cruise enough to see for himself.

Yes, Kidman is a programmed toy, but she is a part of the game, whereas Cruise is literally the Everyman. His being a doctor being a red herring. We think of doctors as elites, when in fact they are just like an electrician or plumber, but of the human body. They are just paid better because they endure more education and are of a more important service. Otherwise, the elites see him as a sheep...a servant.

Kidman's nightmare was her hypnotic interpretation of being fucked at the ritual. Her anger towards Cruise in the bedroom after the Christmas party was actually an unknown guilt she has. She is projecting her secret on him. She is making him pay for what she has been made into. Much how the every man is ridiculed by feminist for what females have been programmed to be. Her story of the naval officer is an instance where her programming was triggered.

The implication of all these symbols I have yet to flesh out. Are all women programmed to be switched on at anytime if they are desired by the elites? Do the elites see men as their tradesmen and women as their geishas when so desired? That anything we get from females is only because they do not always want or always need the women. Do they just see the Everyman as a care taker and a place holder?
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Sorry, OP, but you have not solved this movie. I believe your thesis statement about the film to be a breakthrough, but the body of your argument that follows is too dense and scattered.

Let those in this thread help you solve the riddle, rather than you shoving your stream of consciousness regarding the film down our throats.
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Is that the only dig you could come up with? After all this, you're attacking my stream of consciousness and thinking out loud.

That's the worst ad hominem I've ever heard. I could make up a better logical fallacy and debate distraction in my sleep.

Aweful. Come up with something better. I'm having coffee.

Besides, what if I want my thesis to be scattered and apparently random?

Sometimes we're blue. Sometimes we're green. Sometimes we're yellow. Sometimes we're red (though I could be redder if in a grape vinard). But you get the idea.

The thread is fragmented, dissociated, altered, perfect for its utility.
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Something is of with your true intention in this thread. You either are just our to get your philosophical cock sucked or you are actually playing the role of a red herring. The first smell being of the truth, the rest being convoluted, hyperbole.
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BTW, finaly got fed up and decided to specifically comment on the subject per se. I need to make this point: You guys are looking like psycho paths and sados to be immersed and obsessed with such a movie.

I would never be in the mindset or taste to be attracted to such, You all should be ashamed of yourselves !

Your analysis is mean spirited, twisted, macabre and genuinely sounds like you all enjoy it.

You ever hear of supply and demand? also the word "bait"? ask yourself why you dont like more light hearted fare. I just watched Mrs Doubtfire again with Robin Williams and thats my kind of movie . I also like sci fi and looking forward to the mew movie with Will Smith and his Son crash landing their spaceship.

Ask yourself why you are attracted to a sexualized, dark, smutty subject.

Im glad that God draws out people by their own inner desires.


James 1:14
But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire.

These sentences are samples:

I honestly wanted to see the High Priest hung from a noose made of piano wire

Kidman's nightmare was her hypnotic interpretation of being fucked at the ritual. Her anger towards Cruise in the bedroom after the Christmas party was actually an unknown guilt she has.


Congrats. Hope you were happy looking in the mirror.

Please find a new hobby or subject. I wouldnt trust you all around any kids, or polite society with those fucked up images in your heads.
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Sorry, OP, but you have not solved this movie. I believe your thesis statement about the film to be a breakthrough, but the body of your argument that follows is too dense and scattered.

Let those in this thread help you solve the riddle, rather than you shoving your stream of consciousness regarding the film down our throats.
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Is that the only dig you could come up with? After all this, you're attacking my stream of consciousness and thinking out loud.

That's the worst ad hominem I've ever heard. I could make up a better logical fallacy and debate distraction in my sleep.

Aweful. Come up with something better. I'm having coffee.

Besides, what if I want my thesis to be scattered and apparently random?

Sometimes we're blue. Sometimes we're green. Sometimes we're yellow. Sometimes we're red (though I could be redder if in a grape vinard). But you get the idea.

The thread is fragmented, dissociated, altered, perfect for its utility.
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Something is of with your true intention in this thread. You either are just our to get your philosophical cock sucked or you are actually playing the role of a red herring. The first smell being of the truth, the rest being convoluted, hyperbole.
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Another nasty comment here, Philosophical cock sucking

Again, you guys need a bar of soap and some normal interests.

God will draw out on judgement day what each persons dark inner demons are. Pay heed, that day is coming when Elijahs Inkhorn will mark people for life or destruction. The All Seeing Eye sees all.

James 1:14
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Sorry, OP, but you have not solved this movie. I believe your thesis statement about the film to be a breakthrough, but the body of your argument that follows is too dense and scattered.

Let those in this thread help you solve the riddle, rather than you shoving your stream of consciousness regarding the film down our throats.
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Is that the only dig you could come up with? After all this, you're attacking my stream of consciousness and thinking out loud.

That's the worst ad hominem I've ever heard. I could make up a better logical fallacy and debate distraction in my sleep.

Aweful. Come up with something better. I'm having coffee.

Besides, what if I want my thesis to be scattered and apparently random?

Sometimes we're blue. Sometimes we're green. Sometimes we're yellow. Sometimes we're red (though I could be redder if in a grape vinard). But you get the idea.

The thread is fragmented, dissociated, altered, perfect for its utility.
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Something is of with your true intention in this thread. You either are just our to get your philosophical cock sucked or you are actually playing the role of a red herring. The first smell being of the truth, the rest being convoluted, hyperbole.
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You don't need a comma between convoluted and hyperbole. Read Strunk and White's Elements of Style. And what's wrong with stream of consciousness? And what's a philosophical cock?

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