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Eyes Wide Shut -- A Model of Monarch Programming

 
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BTW, finaly got fed up and decided to specifically comment on the subject per se. I need to make this point: You guys are looking like psycho paths and sados to be immersed and obsessed with such a movie.

I would never be in the mindset or taste to be attracted to such, You all should be ashamed of yourselves !

Your analysis is mean spirited, twisted, macabre and genuinely sounds like you all enjoy it.

You ever hear of supply and demand? also the word "bait"? ask yourself why you dont like more light hearted fare. I just watched Mrs Doubtfire again with Robin Williams and thats my kind of movie . I also like sci fi and looking forward to the mew movie with Will Smith and his Son crash landing their spaceship.

Ask yourself why you are attracted to a sexualized, dark, smutty subject.

Im glad that God draws out people by their own inner desires.


James 1:14
But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire.

These sentences are samples:

I honestly wanted to see the High Priest hung from a noose made of piano wire

Kidman's nightmare was her hypnotic interpretation of being fucked at the ritual. Her anger towards Cruise in the bedroom after the Christmas party was actually an unknown guilt she has.


Congrats. Hope you were happy looking in the mirror.

Please find a new hobby or subject. I wouldnt trust you all around any kids, or polite society with those fucked up images in your heads.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON



Well, I guess I'm different. The reason is because I like naked, beautiful women. Seriously. I really do. I think they are pretty when they are beautiful. And when they are naked and you can see that beauty, well, that's even better. However, the reason I'm studying this so hard is because I'm trying to discover why the doctor only gets turned on to his wife when he doesn't see her as his wife. What's the catch? What's going on in the collective psyche that makes this mentality so prevailant today? And what is this need that Kidman's character has to be use as a sex/pleasure object? Can these ideas be synthesized and unified, or are they by necessity always in sharts, fragments and alters? How do we resolve what the film leaves unresolved. They're resolution isn't a resolution, it's brainwashing. They aren't awake, they have been programmed. In fact, not only was she not the sweet, desexed faithful wife, she ends up being the biggest whore in the whole film and the idiot doctor doesn't even know it. The only, I mean the one and only, thing she wants to do throughout the entire film is FUCK her brains out.

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Sorry, OP, but you have not solved this movie. I believe your thesis statement about the film to be a breakthrough, but the body of your argument that follows is too dense and scattered.

Let those in this thread help you solve the riddle, rather than you shoving your stream of consciousness regarding the film down our throats.
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Is that the only dig you could come up with? After all this, you're attacking my stream of consciousness and thinking out loud.

That's the worst ad hominem I've ever heard. I could make up a better logical fallacy and debate distraction in my sleep.

Aweful. Come up with something better. I'm having coffee.

Besides, what if I want my thesis to be scattered and apparently random?

Sometimes we're blue. Sometimes we're green. Sometimes we're yellow. Sometimes we're red (though I could be redder if in a grape vinard). But you get the idea.

The thread is fragmented, dissociated, altered, perfect for its utility.
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Something is of with your true intention in this thread. You either are just our to get your philosophical cock sucked or you are actually playing the role of a red herring. The first smell being of the truth, the rest being convoluted, hyperbole.
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You don't need a comma between convoluted and hyperbole. Read Strunk and White's Elements of Style. And what's wrong with stream of consciousness? And what's a philosophical cock?
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Yeah, I wanna know the same thing too OP. lol. I find it amusing you talk about love of God and the Bible, yet you also claim to study the big bad illuminati all the while looking like you get off on this stuff.

Bad associations spoil useful habits, (1 Corinthians 15:33) you should remember that.
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Wow...I am think I just stumbled on something huge. Two scenes that may show that Kidman was at the ritual.

There is a scene earlier in the movie where she drops her black dress around her feet. She is nude, except for black heels, facing the red curtains and her face is not seen.

Flash forward to the ritual....

Women are around the men in red in black cloaks. They drop the black cloaks to their feet. They are basically nude, in black heels and their faces are not seen because they are masked. One of the women has long, curly, red/auburn hair. She also has a body similar to Kidman's and heels practically identical to the early scene.
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You have not picked up on the most important element...why Tom Cruise is called away to his patient who has died, home? Why he is called away the same night as the party?

The key is Nicole Kidman's character. She is needed at the party. Tom Cruise needs to be away so she can do what she is programmed for.

Why does a doctor need to go to the home of an already pronounced dead patient...a patient who probably traveled in the same circles as the elites at the party? Why is his daughter, who is at the house with her husband suddenly and ham fistedly attempts to initiate sex with him?

To distract him so Nicole Kidman's character can do her duty.

Her character is already "initiated". That is why her character is named "Alice".

What Tom Cruise saw as a Christmas party early in the film was a pre-party to the ritual. That is why the piano player is there. He is initiated as well. Well...partially initiated. He serves them, but in a capacity closer to the truth.

That is why while the models distract him, his wife dances with the wealthy, older man. That is why she acts almost spacey while flirting with him. Her alter is being activated for the big party.

Tom Cruise is more out of the loop than we think as the viewer. We assume people like his housewife and the pianist who dropped out of medical school are below him, when in fact they are more in the loop than he his.

The prostitute that is dying of aids serves as a microcosm for the doctors place in society. The rich man at the Christmas party has models and beauty pageant queens as his prostitutes. Whereas Cruise has the prostitute of the Everyman. Both prostitutes die at the hands of the elites, but one does directly and the other does indirectly.

Even his wife is only his wife because they allow it. he basically handles her and takes care of her. in the end she is their property. she was just like the model at the party and was there to be used sexually. We as viewers do not know this because she is masked.

Now why the piano player leads him to the ritual...I have yet to figure out.

Perhaps the piano player ( an artist) is reference to Kubrick himself. Maybe Kubrick, like the Piano player, was trying to reveal the truth to Tom Cruise (us)

Perhaps he did it as such because 1) who would believe such a crazy story and 2) to try and survive revealing it by just giving Cruise enough to see for himself.

Yes, Kidman is a programmed toy, but she is a part of the game, whereas Cruise is literally the Everyman. His being a doctor being a red herring. We think of doctors as elites, when in fact they are just like an electrician or plumber, but of the human body. They are just paid better because they endure more education and are of a more important service. Otherwise, the elites see him as a sheep...a servant.

Kidman's nightmare was her hypnotic interpretation of being fucked at the ritual. Her anger towards Cruise in the bedroom after the Christmas party was actually an unknown guilt she has. She is projecting her secret on him. She is making him pay for what she has been made into. Much how the every man is ridiculed by feminist for what females have been programmed to be. Her story of the naval officer is an instance where her programming was triggered.

The implication of all these symbols I have yet to flesh out. Are all women programmed to be switched on at anytime if they are desired by the elites? Do the elites see men as their tradesmen and women as their geishas when so desired? That anything we get from females is only because they do not always want or always need the women. Do they just see the Everyman as a care taker and a place holder?
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This is a good question and comment. The patient and death scene is important. It creates something like psychological fractionation. This fracturing of the mind is part of the induction process of Monarch that shifts between pain and pleasure. In theory, such trauma should increase desire for comfort. If comfort need is increased by pain and turmoil, it becomes more probable that the victim will act on that desire. And how will they act upon it? In the path of least resistance. And just suppose you create and very easy and preplanned path for them to follow? A yellow bricked road? They will almost certainly act upon your subliminal and invisible directives. Every single person that the doctor comes into contact with in the film (most probably including some of his patients) is an Illuminati plant during this working and initiation procedure. Notice that the woman states the she 'loves' him. All of these little infidelities add up after time.

His friend is found with a prostitute who has overdosed on heroin and cocaine. She is naked. The situation is compromising. What happens psychologically? The same thing that happens to me psychologically while sitting in the audience watching the film. I sublimate. I try to act disinterested while trying to hide an erection. So what is happening in the Monarch process? Two things at the same time. This is creating cognitive dissonance. I am holding two separate and contrary desires and thoughts at the same time. One is sublimated, the other is manifested. One is conscious, the other subconscious. In hypnosis and Monarch fragment programming, only the subconscious dreamtime program means anything. Shame, duty, saving face, shunning, shocking. These are all elements that are at work in Monarch mind control. This fractionation between pleasure and pain, sublimation and manifestation is what is creating probable and desired the butterfly/domino effect. What does the victim want? Comfort and homeostasis. What is the only sufficiant comforting remedy in the face of marital sexual frustrastion and death of a patient? You guessed it, sex. But it can't be 'normal' sex, because that has already been 'banned' by the program and programmers. It has to be subliminal sex and naughty. It is this very subliminal naughtiness then that gives comfort in the face of such traumas and stressors. And that's where the safe place for the new alter is developed and initiated into an order of other naughty subliminals hiding behind masks to find their comfort zone and escape. They are in effect stuck to a psychological magnate.

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BTW, finaly got fed up and decided to specifically comment on the subject per se. I need to make this point: You guys are looking like psycho paths and sados to be immersed and obsessed with such a movie.

I would never be in the mindset or taste to be attracted to such, You all should be ashamed of yourselves !

Your analysis is mean spirited, twisted, macabre and genuinely sounds like you all enjoy it.

You ever hear of supply and demand? also the word "bait"? ask yourself why you dont like more light hearted fare. I just watched Mrs Doubtfire again with Robin Williams and thats my kind of movie . I also like sci fi and looking forward to the mew movie with Will Smith and his Son crash landing their spaceship.

Ask yourself why you are attracted to a sexualized, dark, smutty subject.

Im glad that God draws out people by their own inner desires.


James 1:14
But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire.

These sentences are samples:

I honestly wanted to see the High Priest hung from a noose made of piano wire

Kidman's nightmare was her hypnotic interpretation of being fucked at the ritual. Her anger towards Cruise in the bedroom after the Christmas party was actually an unknown guilt she has.


Congrats. Hope you were happy looking in the mirror.

Please find a new hobby or subject. I wouldnt trust you all around any kids, or polite society with those fucked up images in your heads.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON



Well, I guess I'm different. The reason is because I like naked, beautiful women. Seriously. I really do. I think they are pretty when they are beautiful. And when they are naked and you can see that beauty, well, that's even better. However, the reason I'm studying this so hard is because I'm trying to discover why the doctor only gets turned on to his wife when he doesn't see her as his wife. What's the catch? What's going on in the collective psyche that makes this mentality so prevailant today? And what is this need that Kidman's character has to be use as a sex/pleasure object? Can these ideas be synthesized and unified, or are they by necessity always in sharts, fragments and alters? How do we resolve what the film leaves unresolved. They're resolution isn't a resolution, it's brainwashing. They aren't awake, they have been programmed. In fact, not only was she not the sweet, desexed faithful wife, she ends up being the biggest whore in the whole film and the idiot doctor doesn't even know it. The only, I mean the one and only, thing she wants to do throughout the entire film is FUCK her brains out.
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Ok, Ill help you out with what I know from University and my friend at Berkely.
In the early stages of youth, a child should be in the presence of a husband and wife that are openly affectionate with one another. (hugs, kisses, embraces) This gives the impression that married or committed passion is healthy.

If a child doesnt get this healthy reinforcement, he will have the good wife vs whore complex and can only have a good wife but may not be turned on by her. Or he can only be turned on if she acts the whore. and this is vice versa . A girl can be raised thinking sex is dirty, but if she is free to feel anonmyous then a hungry part of her can come out.

Motherhood, and marriage has been so screwed up in this current system that we cannot easily see the "Mom or "good wife" as the whore
This is another prime example why many christian wives are frigid (Christianity teachers that Jesus was celibate) And many Christian households grew up with warped mentality that sex is dirty

Hotels report that during christian conventions, their porn on demand orders are never higher ! Christian convention goers order more porn than any other group.
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BTW, finaly got fed up and decided to specifically comment on the subject per se. I need to make this point: You guys are looking like psycho paths and sados to be immersed and obsessed with such a movie.

I would never be in the mindset or taste to be attracted to such, You all should be ashamed of yourselves !

Your analysis is mean spirited, twisted, macabre and genuinely sounds like you all enjoy it.

You ever hear of supply and demand? also the word "bait"? ask yourself why you dont like more light hearted fare. I just watched Mrs Doubtfire again with Robin Williams and thats my kind of movie . I also like sci fi and looking forward to the mew movie with Will Smith and his Son crash landing their spaceship.

Ask yourself why you are attracted to a sexualized, dark, smutty subject.

Im glad that God draws out people by their own inner desires.


James 1:14
But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire.

These sentences are samples:

I honestly wanted to see the High Priest hung from a noose made of piano wire

Kidman's nightmare was her hypnotic interpretation of being fucked at the ritual. Her anger towards Cruise in the bedroom after the Christmas party was actually an unknown guilt she has.


Congrats. Hope you were happy looking in the mirror.

Please find a new hobby or subject. I wouldnt trust you all around any kids, or polite society with those fucked up images in your heads.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON



Well, I guess I'm different. The reason is because I like naked, beautiful women. Seriously. I really do. I think they are pretty when they are beautiful. And when they are naked and you can see that beauty, well, that's even better. However, the reason I'm studying this so hard is because I'm trying to discover why the doctor only gets turned on to his wife when he doesn't see her as his wife. What's the catch? What's going on in the collective psyche that makes this mentality so prevailant today? And what is this need that Kidman's character has to be use as a sex/pleasure object? Can these ideas be synthesized and unified, or are they by necessity always in sharts, fragments and alters? How do we resolve what the film leaves unresolved. They're resolution isn't a resolution, it's brainwashing. They aren't awake, they have been programmed. In fact, not only was she not the sweet, desexed faithful wife, she ends up being the biggest whore in the whole film and the idiot doctor doesn't even know it. The only, I mean the one and only, thing she wants to do throughout the entire film is FUCK her brains out.
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Ok, Ill help you out with what I know from University and my friend at Berkely.
In the early stages of youth, a child should be in the presence of a husband and wife that are openly affectionate with one another. (hugs, kisses, embraces) This gives the impression that married or committed passion is healthy.

If a child doesnt get this healthy reinforcement, he will have the good wife vs whore complex and can only have a good wife but may not be turned on by her. Or he can only be turned on if she acts the whore. and this is vice versa . A girl can be raised thinking sex is dirty, but if she is free to feel anonmyous then a hungry part of her can come out.

Motherhood, and marriage has been so screwed up in this current system that we cannot easily see the "Mom or "good wife" as the whore
This is another prime example why many christian wives are frigid (Christianity teachers that Jesus was celibate) And many Christian households grew up with warped mentality that sex is dirty

Hotels report that during christian conventions, their porn on demand orders are never higher ! Christian convention goers order more porn than any other group.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


Yeah, I think you're right. Christians today can be the horniest people you ever saw in your life. They would make a Wiccan Sabbat look like a quaker picnic in comparison to what they really want to do. I know. I am a Christian, and man, am I horny. You bet, man. Horny and sublimated. Yeah, I totally get that. So, I get the whole sublimated, shard, fragment thing. Sheesh, I'm totally programmed. But I have a great advantage, I know I'm programmed and I know how I'm going to get out of it and change the whole vibe. It's great really. I'll still sublimate and go down the rabbit hole, but this time, I'll have a new snake leading to a different experience.

But this whole masquerade thing didn't just get started amongst repressed apostate priest and nuns of the middle ages and the Illuminati. This crap's been going on since Babylon or before. People somehow feel that what they are doing is wrong. They don't know how it's wrong perhaps, they just know it is. But it's a feeling that they don't know how to control, and since they don't know what else to do, they hide and then fuck to the cock crows thrice. That's the whole problem. The problem is a lack of knowledge. And it is by this ignorance that the Monarch programming is made all the more powerful and inductive.

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Wow...I am think I just stumbled on something huge. Two scenes that may show that Kidman was at the ritual.

There is a scene earlier in the movie where she drops her black dress around her feet. She is nude, except for black heels, facing the red curtains and her face is not seen.

Flash forward to the ritual....

Women are around the men in red in black cloaks. They drop the black cloaks to their feet. They are basically nude, in black heels and their faces are not seen because they are masked. One of the women has long, curly, red/auburn hair. She also has a body similar to Kidman's and heels practically identical to the early scene.
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Kidman's character was at the ritual. I'll have to compare the two totally hot, naked women in detail for research purposes. I'll have to look at her butt to tell. I'd know that butt anywhere.

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No, I don't think that's her. I've compared the two butts and they're not the same. The ho at the ritual has a flatter butt. Kidman has a very round and pronounced buttocks.

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To only get an invite...
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5 stars, OP.

You have the intellect, the insight, the discipline, and the motivation to complete your mission.

Best of luck to you.
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thnis started cool but took a turn to shit ville
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Now this is a 5***** thread. Good job, OP.

I've always known Eyes Wide Shut was one of the most important movies out there, but I never would have put it together in words as you have. I've learned a lot of new things as well.

Now excuse me while I go read some more.
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No, I don't think that's her. I've compared the two butts and they're not the same. The ho at the ritual has a flatter butt. Kidman has a very round and pronounced buttocks.
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With most female actors using body doubles in Hollywood movies, think that might be a waste of time.
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You have not picked up on the most important element...why Tom Cruise is called away to his patient who has died, home? Why he is called away the same night as the party?

The key is Nicole Kidman's character. She is needed at the party. Tom Cruise needs to be away so she can do what she is programmed for.

Why does a doctor need to go to the home of an already pronounced dead patient...a patient who probably traveled in the same circles as the elites at the party? Why is his daughter, who is at the house with her husband suddenly and ham fistedly attempts to initiate sex with him?

To distract him so Nicole Kidman's character can do her duty.

Her character is already "initiated". That is why her character is named "Alice".

What Tom Cruise saw as a Christmas party early in the film was a pre-party to the ritual. That is why the piano player is there. He is initiated as well. Well...partially initiated. He serves them, but in a capacity closer to the truth.

That is why while the models distract him, his wife dances with the wealthy, older man. That is why she acts almost spacey while flirting with him. Her alter is being activated for the big party.

Tom Cruise is more out of the loop than we think as the viewer. We assume people like his housewife and the pianist who dropped out of medical school are below him, when in fact they are more in the loop than he his.

The prostitute that is dying of aids serves as a microcosm for the doctors place in society. The rich man at the Christmas party has models and beauty pageant queens as his prostitutes. Whereas Cruise has the prostitute of the Everyman. Both prostitutes die at the hands of the elites, but one does directly and the other does indirectly.

Even his wife is only his wife because they allow it. he basically handles her and takes care of her. in the end she is their property. she was just like the model at the party and was there to be used sexually. We as viewers do not know this because she is masked.

Now why the piano player leads him to the ritual...I have yet to figure out.

Perhaps the piano player ( an artist) is reference to Kubrick himself. Maybe Kubrick, like the Piano player, was trying to reveal the truth to Tom Cruise (us)

Perhaps he did it as such because 1) who would believe such a crazy story and 2) to try and survive revealing it by just giving Cruise enough to see for himself.

Yes, Kidman is a programmed toy, but she is a part of the game, whereas Cruise is literally the Everyman. His being a doctor being a red herring. We think of doctors as elites, when in fact they are just like an electrician or plumber, but of the human body. They are just paid better because they endure more education and are of a more important service. Otherwise, the elites see him as a sheep...a servant.

Kidman's nightmare was her hypnotic interpretation of being fucked at the ritual. Her anger towards Cruise in the bedroom after the Christmas party was actually an unknown guilt she has. She is projecting her secret on him. She is making him pay for what she has been made into. Much how the every man is ridiculed by feminist for what females have been programmed to be. Her story of the naval officer is an instance where her programming was triggered.

The implication of all these symbols I have yet to flesh out. Are all women programmed to be switched on at anytime if they are desired by the elites? Do the elites see men as their tradesmen and women as their geishas when so desired? That anything we get from females is only because they do not always want or always need the women. Do they just see the Everyman as a care taker and a place holder?
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This is a good question and comment. The patient and death scene is important. It creates something like psychological fractionation. This fracturing of the mind is part of the induction process of Monarch that shifts between pain and pleasure. In theory, such trauma should increase desire for comfort. If comfort need is increased by pain and turmoil, it becomes more probable that the victim will act on that desire. And how will they act upon it? In the path of least resistance. And just suppose you create and very easy and preplanned path for them to follow? A yellow bricked road? They will almost certainly act upon your subliminal and invisible directives. Every single person that the doctor comes into contact with in the film (most probably including some of his patients) is an Illuminati plant during this working and initiation procedure. Notice that the woman states the she 'loves' him. All of these little infidelities add up after time.

His friend is found with a prostitute who has overdosed on heroin and cocaine. She is naked. The situation is compromising. What happens psychologically? The same thing that happens to me psychologically while sitting in the audience watching the film. I sublimate. I try to act disinterested while trying to hide an erection. So what is happening in the Monarch process? Two things at the same time. This is creating cognitive dissonance. I am holding two separate and contrary desires and thoughts at the same time. One is sublimated, the other is manifested. One is conscious, the other subconscious. In hypnosis and Monarch fragment programming, only the subconscious dreamtime program means anything. Shame, duty, saving face, shunning, shocking. These are all elements that are at work in Monarch mind control. This fractionation between pleasure and pain, sublimation and manifestation is what is creating probable and desired the butterfly/domino effect. What does the victim want? Comfort and homeostasis. What is the only sufficiant comforting remedy in the face of marital sexual frustrastion and death of a patient? You guessed it, sex. But it can't be 'normal' sex, because that has already been 'banned' by the program and programmers. It has to be subliminal sex and naughty. It is this very subliminal naughtiness then that gives comfort in the face of such traumas and stressors. And that's where the safe place for the new alter is developed and initiated into an order of other naughty subliminals hiding behind masks to find their comfort zone and escape. They are in effect stuck to a psychological magnate.
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Dude...excellent post.

This whole thread has been a very interesting read. You have got a great grasp of putting knowledge into words. Congrats.
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Also, among his unfinished projects, Kubrick wanted to make a film based on the 1988 novel Foucault's Pendulum( [link to en.wikipedia.org] which was about secret societies, conspiracy theories, the occult, Knight's Templar, and many other esoteric topics. I don't know how much more obvious it can get! I believe the most educated people certainly know about these things because they are studious and love to research obsessively.

[link to www.empireonline.com]

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