Watching MSNBC right now: prescription drug users to require out of pocket for every purchase | |
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| Professor Xavier User ID: 33127293 01/27/2013 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only a purely socialistic healthcare system, with no big corporations pulling the strings, is humane. But it won't happen in this world...any time soon... Quoting: Uncle Alyosha 33137681 And the screwing of the common man continues... ![]() So comrade, what is the motivation that drives individuals to develop newer and better drugs? Can't be profits. Can't even be building the share price of corporations, because your retardocracy eliminates both. What government school did you get your brainwashing from? Do you know why people go to Mexico or Canada to get their scripts filled? Simple the same drugs by the same companies cost much less. Americans pay much more for drugs because of a deal with big pharma that forces us to pay more to help offset the cost that the FDA demands from the drug testing regimen. Drugs completely developed in other countries still have a premium to purchase here. Cronyism with big business, big business and TBTF has been costing the middle class for a very long time. Yes, I know all of that. It has nothing to do with the point I made or the drooling idiocy of the assertion it addressed. |
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| Fred User ID: 33128068 01/27/2013 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good. We need a little bit of personal responsibility thrown in with medical care. That few dollars of out of pocket may make people ask the doctor if they really need yet another pill. Sometimes the answer will be "well not really", less money spent on health care, less damage from unneeded prescriptions. |
| rachaelsdad User ID: 33138398 01/27/2013 02:11 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I take thyroid meds too, but they do NOTHING. I have zero metabolism, lethargy; chronic cold nose, hands, and feet. Hard-to-detect heartbeat, low blood pressure, and if I cut myself, I hardly bleed. I am the walking dead. Is this your experience, OP? Thank you. Have you had a thyroidectomy and still have these sxs? No thyroidectomy. In fact, I never even heard the term until now. Is this a recommened procedure for such symptoms? Thank you for the info. I'm certainly eager for answers/suggestions. In some cases the thyroid actually blocks the Thyroid oral medication. Also what are your TSH T3 and Free T4 levels. These should be checked regularly for dosage and effectiveness. |
| Hawbs User ID: 1563062 01/27/2013 02:18 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just read the post about aiming not to be on prescription medications. How do I maintain my transplanted kidney (due to genetic kidney disease, not alcohol or drugs,) without my anti-rejection medications? Huh? I worked and paid taxes in this country (also working for the US Government, Postal Service many years.) I guess it's good-bye Grandma, right? I had my 61st birthday less than a month ago..I'm expendable, right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33090208 It's not that you're just expendable Grandma, you are a liability. Obamacare = The Final Solution for the baby boom problem. Haven't you looked at the demographics for the last forty years? Still think that Roe v Wade was a great idea? Time to pay the piper. |
| Exorcise This User ID: 9377882 01/27/2013 02:22 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I take thyroid meds too, but they do NOTHING. I have zero metabolism, lethargy; chronic cold nose, hands, and feet. Hard-to-detect heartbeat, low blood pressure, and if I cut myself, I hardly bleed. I am the walking dead. Is this your experience, OP? Thank you. Have you had a thyroidectomy and still have these sxs? No thyroidectomy. In fact, I never even heard the term until now. Is this a recommened procedure for such symptoms? Thank you for the info. I'm certainly eager for answers/suggestions. In some cases the thyroid actually blocks the Thyroid oral medication. Also what are your TSH T3 and Free T4 levels. These should be checked regularly for dosage and effectiveness. It seems like my test results are always "borderline." Haven't been back to the doc in a while; I'd kind of given in to my fate. it's time for another check! I'm now encouraged to do so. rachaelsdad, I really appreciate you taking the time to advise me with on this. |
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| davvi Doe: A Female Rabbit User ID: 3677166 01/27/2013 02:28 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You mean the fools who still work and monetarily support and prop up this crooked, corrupt government? yup, we are the ones and who ever said slavery no longer exists? How do you sleep at night? very well, thank you for asking. how about you? "Arguing with a leftist is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like its victorious." “I am the senator. You are the citizen. You need to be quiet.” Senator Tommy Tucker and your tax dollars at work. Scared yet? The people who rob Peter to pay Paul can always count on Paul's support. Obama's Death Panels: Cruel and Unusual punishment for people whose only crime is getting old or getting sick. |
| PolarPrecursor User ID: 30665644 01/27/2013 02:28 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This only applies to those who can afford it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33135985 The poor will still get free meds. Don't bet on the poor getting a free ride...you should know by now that just because Obama says something doesn't in any way shape or form make it the truth. Priced by your social security number huh? Well that is easy to figure out..they just look up your SS# in their government files...see how much you make a year by accessing your tax returns and charge you accordingly..where was this little jewel of knowledge when they were passing this thing through the Senate? Why did not anyone say anything about this to the public?? Why? Because they knew if the general population knew of this the dam thing would have never passed ..that's why!! Oh and another thing ..if you smoke they will deny you health care through Obamacare and they have already talked to the big insurance companies to make sure they raise their rates so high, if your a smoker, that you would be paying a quarter of your yearly salary just for private individual health insurance! They want smokers to die! Is this America?? We protect the rights of citizens in other countries and fight wars over leaders attacking their own citizens and yet we will start slowly killing off part of our population because they smoke????????!!! Insane. And also they are discussing with the medical boards about what to do with over weight people too..they also cost the taxpayer too much money in health related illnesses..they will be on the death list next !!! The main thing they keep forgetting is that these people who they want to price health insurance out of reach for ..they pay the taxes!!! It is their country !! They supposedly live in a free country!! What is fair ..what is free about all this?? Genocide of your own because you do not agree with their lifestyles or the way they look?? How arrogant we have become and how pathetic! "Power Corrupts" |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26819138 01/27/2013 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's my goal in life to never be on any kind of prescription drug. Should be everyones goal... Quoting: Etrn9T Great goal. I had the same one a few years back when I was on a zillion and two of them after being diagnosed with MS. I only helped myself and my recovery by dropping every one of them. I still have MS, but I'm 100 times better and take ZERO medications. Just healthy eating, regular exercise and a low level of stress. |
| davvi Doe: A Female Rabbit User ID: 3677166 01/27/2013 02:32 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good. We need a little bit of personal responsibility thrown in with medical care. That few dollars of out of pocket may make people ask the doctor if they really need yet another pill. Quoting: Fred 33128068 Sometimes the answer will be "well not really", less money spent on health care, less damage from unneeded prescriptions. so then EVERYONE should pay something? or just the ones who work? do you not get the whole concept that those who already get it for free from the taxpayer will still get it for free and those of us who pay something will now pay more? "Arguing with a leftist is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like its victorious." “I am the senator. You are the citizen. You need to be quiet.” Senator Tommy Tucker and your tax dollars at work. Scared yet? The people who rob Peter to pay Paul can always count on Paul's support. Obama's Death Panels: Cruel and Unusual punishment for people whose only crime is getting old or getting sick. |
| PolarPrecursor User ID: 30665644 01/27/2013 02:33 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This only applies to those who can afford it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33135985 The poor will still get free meds. Don't bet on the poor getting a free ride...you should know by now that just because Obama says something doesn't in any way shape or form make it the truth. Priced by your social security number huh? Well that is easy to figure out..they just look up your SS# in their government files...see how much you make a year by accessing your tax returns and charge you accordingly..where was this little jewel of knowledge when they were passing this thing through the Senate? Why did not anyone say anything about this to the public?? Why? Because they knew if the general population knew of this the dam thing would have never passed ..that's why!! Oh and another thing ..if you smoke they will deny you health care through Obamacare and they have already talked to the big insurance companies to make sure they raise their rates so high, if your a smoker, that you would be paying a quarter of your yearly salary just for private individual health insurance! They want smokers to die! Is this America?? We protect the rights of citizens in other countries and fight wars over leaders attacking their own citizens and yet we will start slowly killing off part of our population because they smoke????????!!! Insane. And also they are discussing with the medical boards about what to do with over weight people too..they also cost the taxpayer too much money in health related illnesses..they will be on the death list next !!! The main thing they keep forgetting is that these people who they want to price health insurance out of reach for ..they pay the taxes!!! It is their country !! They supposedly live in a free country!! What is fair ..what is free about all this?? Genocide of your own because you do not agree with their lifestyles or the way they look?? How arrogant we have become and how pathetic! Another thing is your social security number makes it pretty easy to tell..by the number...just how old you are..good way to deny the elderly isn't it?? Think of that AARP! "Power Corrupts" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17522961 01/27/2013 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP: as an aside, if you need sleep meds why on thyroid your are still hypo.. (if you are hypo.. if you are hyper then its another story but then again you wouldnt be on regular meds). If you are on synthyroid, look at natural dessicated thyroid instead. If you cant get your doc to Rx it, you can order it online and then there is no copay.. and you wont need sleep meds because you are currently underdosed. My 0.02. Take charge of your health. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33137926 01/27/2013 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just read the post about aiming not to be on prescription medications. How do I maintain my transplanted kidney (due to genetic kidney disease, not alcohol or drugs,) without my anti-rejection medications? Huh? I worked and paid taxes in this country (also working for the US Government, Postal Service many years.) I guess it's good-bye Grandma, right? I had my 61st birthday less than a month ago..I'm expendable, right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33090208 Who said that? TPTB said that. How long have you been here at godlike? What else did you miss? Everything, or just what is convenient at the moment? Well they saying it doesn't mean we said it, sounded like she said us. :( I thought you were leaving? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8910622 01/27/2013 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the man just said on T.V. is that Obamacare is going to require out of pocket payment for every prescription drug obtained. The amount is based on social security number and level of aid. Quoting: CE Aero Now it breaks to commercial. Hrm, anyone else catch that? I take two now, a thyroid and sleeping one. How long have you been taking thyroid meds and what state do you reside in? And btw, this is all if you opt out of private insurance or can't get it. From my understanding, private insurance will remain up to the individual policy. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33143429 01/27/2013 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I saw on TV what Obummer's aids did to Joe the Plumber for asking one honest American question, I got off the couch for and registered to vote against Obummer. It was the first time I voted since Regan's first term 36 years. |
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Desert Fox![]() Forum Moderator User ID: 8786935 01/27/2013 03:14 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just read the post about aiming not to be on prescription medications. How do I maintain my transplanted kidney (due to genetic kidney disease, not alcohol or drugs,) without my anti-rejection medications? Huh? I worked and paid taxes in this country (also working for the US Government, Postal Service many years.) I guess it's good-bye Grandma, right? I had my 61st birthday less than a month ago..I'm expendable, right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33090208 Who did you vote for in 2008 and 2012? McCain (2004) Obama (2008) Romney (2012) Believe me, I fealt quite like a dufus for the last 4 years. :( So the truth is you voted for a socialist, racist muzzie in 2008, and now you are reaping that hope and change. What did you expect, free gas, free rent, free phone, free car, free money, free food, free drugs? How did that work out for you?? ![]() |
| SwanSong User ID: 33061244 01/27/2013 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone has a Social Security number, but not everyone pays into it,- so this is just more and more being robbed from the people that pay into Social Security. Get it ! ! ! Quoting: SwanSong 33061244 Only the private sector (non-government, working stiffs) pays into the Social Security. Itisnot a tax where everyone pays a little. Just like home owners; the full load of the school costs fall on the home owners only. Now the full load of medical costs fall on the working stiffs only. This is slavery. i think the only thing that has changed is that itwill be coming out of the Social Security now, which is only paid by the few non-government workers, instead of taxes, which is paid by everyone, including government worker. The people getting the real break will be the government workers, and Corporate Society's broodmares. |
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Desert Fox![]() Forum Moderator User ID: 8786935 01/27/2013 03:16 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I saw on TV what Obummer's aids did to Joe the Plumber for asking one honest American question, I got off the couch for and registered to vote against Obummer. It was the first time I voted since Regan's first term 36 years. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33143429 But OP voted for hope and change, and now surprised somehow. ![]() |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14423382 01/27/2013 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone has a Social Security number, but not everyone pays into it,- so this is just more and more being robbed from the people that pay into Social Security. Get it ! ! ! Quoting: SwanSong 33061244 Only the private sector (non-government, working stiffs) pays into the Social Security. Itisnot a tax where everyone pays a little. Just like home owners; the full load of the school costs fall on the home owners only. Now the full load of medical costs fall on the working stiffs only. This is slavery. yo moran, think landlords don't pass on their costs to renters? (elitist-f...) |
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| SwanSong User ID: 33061244 01/27/2013 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone has a Social Security number, but not everyone pays into it,- so this is just more and more being robbed from the people that pay into Social Security. Get it ! ! ! Quoting: SwanSong 33061244 Only the private sector (non-government, working stiffs) pays into the Social Security. Itisnot a tax where everyone pays a little. Just like home owners; the full load of the school costs fall on the home owners only. Now the full load of medical costs fall on the working stiffs only. This is slavery. yo moran, think landlords don't pass on their costs to renters? (elitist-f...) wrong I said "home owners", not property owners that use their property as a business. stupid idiot, youarenot helping, youare the problem. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14423382 01/27/2013 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone has a Social Security number, but not everyone pays into it,- so this is just more and more being robbed from the people that pay into Social Security. Get it ! ! ! Quoting: SwanSong 33061244 Only the private sector (non-government, working stiffs) pays into the Social Security. Itisnot a tax where everyone pays a little. Just like home owners; the full load of the school costs fall on the home owners only. Now the full load of medical costs fall on the working stiffs only. This is slavery. yo moran, think landlords don't pass on their costs to renters? (elitist-f...) wrong I said "home owners", not property owners that use their property as a business. stupid idiot, youarenot helping, youare the problem. whatever troll |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33061244 01/27/2013 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone has a Social Security number, but not everyone pays into it,- so this is just more and more being robbed from the people that pay into Social Security. Get it ! ! ! Quoting: SwanSong 33061244 Only the private sector (non-government, working stiffs) pays into the Social Security. Itisnot a tax where everyone pays a little. Just like home owners; the full load of the school costs fall on the home owners only. Now the full load of medical costs fall on the working stiffs only. This is slavery. yo moran, think landlords don't pass on their costs to renters? (elitist-f...) wrong I said "home owners", not property owners that use their property as a business. stupid idiot, youarenot helping, youare the problem. whatever troll shill |
| Unc Al User ID: 33147510 01/27/2013 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only a purely socialistic healthcare system, with no big corporations pulling the strings, is humane. But it won't happen in this world...any time soon... Quoting: Uncle Alyosha 33137681 And the screwing of the common man continues... ![]() So comrade, what is the motivation that drives individuals to develop newer and better drugs? Can't be profits. Can't even be building the share price of corporations, because your retardocracy eliminates both. What government school did you get your brainwashing from? Prof X, Newer and better drugs? Probably 95% of these drugs are not necessary and end up doing MUCH more harm than good. I could give countless examples, as many others here could, as well... For-profit healthcare is among the USA's greatest jokes and evils. Marketers make the sheeple believe it's the world's best thing since the wheel's invention... |