Huge Blast At Iran's Fordow Nuclear Plant... U.N. Won't Deny Explosions... | |
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Dixie Normous (OP) User ID: 11619293 United States 01/28/2013 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Carney: 'I never lie' White House press secretary Jay Carney offered some rare insight into his job Friday, telling reporters he never lies in response to their questions, even when he knows more than he can say. “When I go stand up at the podium in front of the White House press corps, I never lie. I never say something that I know is untrue,” Carney said at a scholarship lunch hosted by the White House Correspondents’ Association ahead of this weekend’s festivities. “Credibility is enormously important to a press secretary.” [link to www.politico.com] |
insertfunnyusername User ID: 33192418 Greece 01/28/2013 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IAEA says can't confirm the Fordo report, "only in the media". US says not credible. Quoting: insertfunnyusername [link to twitter.com (secure)] US Jay Carney who said "not credible" also said the Benghazi attack happened because of a movie! Haha, could be Dix, honestly i dunno what/if happened and i'm actually surprised that people in this thread claim that they do, just playing devils advocate here, i believe this story is the distraction from the real news, same with Isfahan some weeks back, i could be wrong off course i can't possibly know man, but imo Iran wants to be attacked, some 200 people trapped/dead would serve their agenda greatly and would have been used accordingly. |
uscrusader1 User ID: 905864 United States 01/28/2013 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i've got friends living in Iran and there are no news about those stuff. I think Israel just feeding a another lies of news in their own mass media corporation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33185899 Iran is lying because they don't want panic from the residents nearby and the family and friends of the people potentially trapped inside... You gotta be kidding... Dying for 'allah snackbar' is a instant trip to paradise. |
uscrusader1 User ID: 905864 United States 01/28/2013 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IAEA says can't confirm the Fordo report, "only in the media". US says not credible. Quoting: insertfunnyusername [link to twitter.com (secure)] US Jay Carney who said "not credible" also said the Benghazi attack happened because of a movie! Haha, could be Dix, honestly i dunno what/if happened and i'm actually surprised that people in this thread claim that they do, just playing devils advocate here, i believe this story is the distraction from the real news, same with Isfahan some weeks back, i could be wrong off course i can't possibly know man, but imo Iran wants to be attacked, some 200 people trapped/dead would serve their agenda greatly and would have been used accordingly. If art carney with no credibility says something is not credible does two negatives make it a positive credible answer? Last Edited by uscrusader1 on 01/28/2013 06:38 PM |
insertfunnyusername User ID: 33192418 Greece 01/28/2013 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IAEA says can't confirm the Fordo report, "only in the media". US says not credible. Quoting: insertfunnyusername [link to twitter.com (secure)] US Jay Carney who said "not credible" also said the Benghazi attack happened because of a movie! Haha, could be Dix, honestly i dunno what/if happened and i'm actually surprised that people in this thread claim that they do, just playing devils advocate here, i believe this story is the distraction from the real news, same with Isfahan some weeks back, i could be wrong off course i can't possibly know man, but imo Iran wants to be attacked, some 200 people trapped/dead would serve their agenda greatly and would have been used accordingly. If art carney with no credibility says something is not credible does two negatives make it a positive credible answer? IAEA opinion is more important imo and you're right about this 0-credibility dude, but still this isn't concrete proof for me, need more to be convinced tbh, seen too many of these shit. As i said, maybe could have happened maybe not, dunno, but i'm not jumping on the definitely happened bandwagon yet. Last Edited by insertfunnyusername on 01/28/2013 06:51 PM |
MessengerInTheLastDays User ID: 2717891 United States 01/28/2013 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like the info got out to early.. False flag being planned..This could really be going down any day.. Last Edited by MessengerInTheLastDays on 01/28/2013 06:54 PM Do you have eyes to see, ears to hear and a heart to understand? JESUS CHRIST is the ONLY WAY to SALVATION, DELIVERANCE and PEACE! Soon his grace will be taken from the earth and his WRATH will be poured out. Accept JESUS CHRIST while the GRACE of GOD is still available. May the Peace of God be with you! Love, Pray, Repent and Forgive. |
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MHz User ID: 32332417 Canada 01/28/2013 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the longer these denails keep going on the more I'm believing that something did in fact happen at Fordow, to what extent we may never know. Reminds me of the Soviets during Chernobyl...was nothing but denails until the evidence was so overwhelming they simply could not hide it anymore Quoting: godzilla85 Then again maybe you are just clueless. At least Russia did their best to clean it up, nobody (read 'the West')seems to be placing any pressure on Japan to stop radiating the planet on what appears to become an endless crime. It also seem that radiation was easy to detect, this incident of a 'massive explosion' cant even get picked up by any seismic station in the area. Last Edited by MHz on 01/28/2013 10:22 PM |
MHz User ID: 32332417 Canada 01/28/2013 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IAEA opinion is more important imo and you're right about this 0-credibility dude, but still this isn't concrete proof for me, need more to be convinced tbh, seen too many of these shit. As i said, maybe could have happened maybe not, dunno, but i'm not jumping on the definitely happened bandwagon yet. Quoting: insertfunnyusername Why not pay them a personal visit and demand to see the facility yourself? Iran denied it happened, why believe they are liars when your own country is probably feeding you bullshit that you swallow whole without a second thought? When your Gov gives Israel a 99 year lease on part of Cyprus are you going to take that as the smartest thing since sliced bread? Last Edited by MHz on 01/28/2013 10:27 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11934995 Canada 01/29/2013 12:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IAEA opinion is more important imo and you're right about this 0-credibility dude, but still this isn't concrete proof for me, need more to be convinced tbh, seen too many of these shit. As i said, maybe could have happened maybe not, dunno, but i'm not jumping on the definitely happened bandwagon yet. Quoting: insertfunnyusername Why not pay them a personal visit and demand to see the facility yourself? Iran denied it happened, why believe they are liars when your own country is probably feeding you bullshit that you swallow whole without a second thought? When your Gov gives Israel a 99 year lease on part of Cyprus are you going to take that as the smartest thing since sliced bread? cyprus isn't part of greece |
MHz User ID: 32332417 Canada 01/29/2013 02:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry I though having the same National anthem and such made them one and the same in relation to this article. (in part) In the “A. Papandreou” AB, the Cypriot government has built the necessary infrastructure for hosting and supporting fighter aircraft, while nearly a decade ago F-16 fighter jets of the HAF had stationed for a short time at the AB under the joint defence area doctrine between Greece and Cyprus. [link to www.defencegreece.com] |
Ger_reG User ID: 1108496 Germany 01/29/2013 02:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | even if true, iran will not admit it because then they have to act, and they really don't want to act because it would be the end of iran! But i doubt it happened. There would be reports of locals, military zones and so on. Nothing more to say. |
insertfunnyusername User ID: 33259906 Greece 01/29/2013 07:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IAEA opinion is more important imo and you're right about this 0-credibility dude, but still this isn't concrete proof for me, need more to be convinced tbh, seen too many of these shit. As i said, maybe could have happened maybe not, dunno, but i'm not jumping on the definitely happened bandwagon yet. Quoting: insertfunnyusername Why not pay them a personal visit and demand to see the facility yourself? Iran denied it happened, why believe they are liars when your own country is probably feeding you bullshit that you swallow whole without a second thought? When your Gov gives Israel a 99 year lease on part of Cyprus are you going to take that as the smartest thing since sliced bread? Why don't you give us a break with your BS? How does this sound? Did you pay them a visit yourself and know better than the rest? What Cyprus has to do with this? Very sloppy deflection attempt and i've already said that i don't buy this story yet and it's probably a distraction from the real news, so you really picking up the wrong guy to play smartass here, do you have issues in reading properly? Your own govt feeds you the absolute truth i suppose right? Or are you the above all and wide awake kinda dude? Relax and stop posting BS mate, you trying too hard, some of the attempts to canonize Iranian govt on every humanitarian and state aspect in this forum are pathetic and i'm not talking about the Fordo incident here, same goes for the other side for me at least. I'll believe whatever i feel like and your unbalanced and one-sided opinion most certainly won't change that, most in here know where i stand. |
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MHz User ID: 32332417 Canada 01/29/2013 08:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | our own govt feeds you the absolute truth i suppose right? Or are you the above all and wide awake kinda dude? Quoting: insertfunnyusername No they use half truth just about all the time. I usually try to verify something, after a week of no real facts coming out I feel quire safe on taking the side that the original story was all bullshit from the start. That also means more stories from the same source are also going to be taken with a great de4al of skepticism. BTW who is 'we'? |
Dixie Normous (OP) User ID: 11619293 United States 01/29/2013 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Despite staunch denials by Iran, new details regarding explosion in nuclear site depict moments of detonation as allegedly captured by CCTV [link to www.ynetnews.com] |
Dixie Normous (OP) User ID: 11619293 United States 01/29/2013 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Despite staunch denials by Iran, new details regarding explosion in nuclear site depict moments of detonation as allegedly captured by CCTV Quoting: Dixie Normous [link to www.ynetnews.com] According to a Tuesday report by WND, the Revolutionary Guard has set up a 15km security zone around the site, cordoning it off completely. The website said that among those now trapped in the belly of the mountain are 16 North Koreans, including 14 technicians, and two top military officers. Iran insists the reports are "Western propaganda," but WND claims that the Times of London and the Germany's Die Welt both have sources that corroborated that a blast has crippled the Islamic Republic's most important nuclear site. |
Dixie Normous (OP) User ID: 11619293 United States 01/29/2013 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WND’s exclusive report by Reza Kahlili, a former CIIA agent in Iran’s Revolutionary Guard, that a key Iranian nuclear facility was devastated by an explosion last week was confirmed by Israeli intelligence officials speaking to the Times of London. Then Tel Aviv sources for The Australian did the same thing, and the Missing Peace organization in the United Kingdom, citing the word of Dr. Ali Reza Nourizadah of the Centre for Arab and Iranian Studies in London, even had a few details. “Nourizadeh, who is a commentator for Deutsche Welle and the Voice of America [and] has an extensive network of contacts in Iran, told us that the explosion has caused relative (sic) little damage to the uranium enrichment facility itself, but that the blast has blocked the entrance to Fordow. He confirmed that more than 200 personnel are trapped in the plant…” [link to www.wnd.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33137750 Israel 01/29/2013 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Despite staunch denials by Iran, new details regarding explosion in nuclear site depict moments of detonation as allegedly captured by CCTV Quoting: Dixie Normous [link to www.ynetnews.com] According to a Tuesday report by WND, the Revolutionary Guard has set up a 15km security zone around the site, cordoning it off completely. The website said that among those now trapped in the belly of the mountain are 16 North Koreans, including 14 technicians, and two top military officers. Iran insists the reports are "Western propaganda," but WND claims that the Times of London and the Germany's Die Welt both have sources that corroborated that a blast has crippled the Islamic Republic's most important nuclear site. the monthly atomic energy checkup on the fordo facility should be in about 3days so then we will know whats up. |
insertfunnyusername User ID: 33259906 Greece 01/29/2013 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | our own govt feeds you the absolute truth i suppose right? Or are you the above all and wide awake kinda dude? Quoting: insertfunnyusername No they use half truth just about all the time. I usually try to verify something, after a week of no real facts coming out I feel quire safe on taking the side that the original story was all bullshit from the start. That also means more stories from the same source are also going to be taken with a great de4al of skepticism. BTW who is 'we'? Yeah, reading skills i was just talking about i guess, there's no 'we', i said 'your'. It's good to feel safe about your own opinion mate, but this doesn't make it a fact for me does it? I've seen you argue that Aleppo university was bombed by a patriot SAM which is not even fucking possible, does this make it a fact too? Your opinion is well documented throughout this forum and respected by me as all opinions are, but don't expect everyone to agree with it and don't try to shove it down my throat with aggressive deflection tactics when our opinions on this particular subject aren't that far to begin with. Peace. |
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The Scientist User ID: 23788152 United Kingdom 01/29/2013 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHITE HOUSE Press Briefing by Press Secretary Jay Carney, 1/28/2013 Q There were weekend reports of a very significant explosion at a nuclear facility in Iran -- Fordow; Fordow is the name of it, near Qom. And I wonder if you have anything that you can relay to us about what the U.S. government does or does not know about that. And also, there has been a glitch in trying to get the next P5-plus-1 talks with Iran, try to get it this month now, pushing into February. Is there anything new you want to tell us about the evaluation of the inability to get that process moved ahead? MR. CARNEY: Sure. I appreciate both questions. On the first, we have no information to confirm the allegations in that report, and we do not believe the report is credible. On the status -- Q -- of have an explosion of any kind? MR. CARNEY: Correct, at the Fordow facility. We don't believe those are credible reports. We have no information that would confirm them and do not believe that those reports or that report is credible. In terms of the P5-plus-1 talks, let’s be clear here that Iran did not accept the P5-plus-1 offer to go to Istanbul on January 28 and 29. The P5-plus-1 have offered concrete dates and venues since December and have shown flexibility regarding a date and venue, but Iran -- not for the first time -- has been continually putting forward new conditions as a delaying tactic. And the negotiations about negotiations is a familiar tactic that only results in further isolation and more pressure on Iran. So it’s not -- it will not achieve anything. We have, however -- though there is still no agreement on the next round of talks, contacts are ongoing. And since Iran did not accept the offer to go to Istanbul on January 28 and 29, the P5-plus-1 have offered new dates in February. But let’s be clear, negotiating over negotiations is not a tactic that produces positive results for Iran; it only results in more isolation and more pressure. Q And the President has said from this podium and other venues he’s not interested in that process, in allowing it to go on forever and ever -- negotiating by negotiating. When does this get to that point? MR. CARNEY: Precisely. And that's why we’re being very clear with our partners about the fact that negotiations have to be over concrete issues, not over further negotiations. And we’ve been clear about what -- with our partners, what we’re ready and when we’re ready to take up these negotiations again. And Iran has to take the next step and engage. |
Dixie Normous (OP) User ID: 11619293 United States 01/29/2013 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WND’s exclusive report by Reza Kahlili, a former CIIA agent in Iran’s Revolutionary Guard, that a key Iranian nuclear facility was devastated by an explosion last week was confirmed by Israeli intelligence officials speaking to the Times of London. Quoting: Dixie Normous Then Tel Aviv sources for The Australian did the same thing, and the Missing Peace organization in the United Kingdom, citing the word of Dr. Ali Reza Nourizadah of the Centre for Arab and Iranian Studies in London, even had a few details. “Nourizadeh, who is a commentator for Deutsche Welle and the Voice of America [and] has an extensive network of contacts in Iran, told us that the explosion has caused relative (sic) little damage to the uranium enrichment facility itself, but that the blast has blocked the entrance to Fordow. He confirmed that more than 200 personnel are trapped in the plant…” [link to www.wnd.com] There are 4 sources so far. A fifth source if you count Jay Carney denying the story... Last Edited by I Need A Name Change on 01/29/2013 09:25 AM |
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MHz User ID: 32332417 Canada 01/29/2013 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WND’s exclusive report by Reza Kahlili, a former CIIA agent in Iran’s Revolutionary Guard, that a key Iranian nuclear facility was devastated by an explosion last week was confirmed by Israeli intelligence officials speaking to the Times of London. Quoting: Dixie Normous Then Tel Aviv sources for The Australian did the same thing, and the Missing Peace organization in the United Kingdom, citing the word of Dr. Ali Reza Nourizadah of the Centre for Arab and Iranian Studies in London, even had a few details. “Nourizadeh, who is a commentator for Deutsche Welle and the Voice of America [and] has an extensive network of contacts in Iran, told us that the explosion has caused relative (sic) little damage to the uranium enrichment facility itself, but that the blast has blocked the entrance to Fordow. He confirmed that more than 200 personnel are trapped in the plant…” [link to www.wnd.com] Here is a report that is sure to cause you personal nightmares. (I guess we can label all your sourse as being flat out liars eh?) Title: UN agency dismisses reports of explosion at an Iranian nuclear facility Source: Associated Press via Fox News Date: January 29, 2013 The U.N. nuclear agency is dismissing reports of a major explosion at Iran’s fortified underground nuclear facility. International Atomic Energy Agency spokeswoman Gill Tudor told The Associated Press on Tuesday that Iran’s denial of “an incident” at the Fordo uranium enrichment plant is “consistent with our observations.” [...] A diplomat familiar with the issue told AP that the IAEA’s information came directly from IAEA inspectors at Fordo. [...] |
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Dixie Normous (OP) User ID: 11619293 United States 01/30/2013 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WND’s exclusive report by Reza Kahlili, a former CIIA agent in Iran’s Revolutionary Guard, that a key Iranian nuclear facility was devastated by an explosion last week was confirmed by Israeli intelligence officials speaking to the Times of London. Quoting: Dixie Normous Then Tel Aviv sources for The Australian did the same thing, and the Missing Peace organization in the United Kingdom, citing the word of Dr. Ali Reza Nourizadah of the Centre for Arab and Iranian Studies in London, even had a few details. “Nourizadeh, who is a commentator for Deutsche Welle and the Voice of America [and] has an extensive network of contacts in Iran, told us that the explosion has caused relative (sic) little damage to the uranium enrichment facility itself, but that the blast has blocked the entrance to Fordow. He confirmed that more than 200 personnel are trapped in the plant…” [link to www.wnd.com] Here is a report that is sure to cause you personal nightmares. (I guess we can label all your sourse as being flat out liars eh?) Title: UN agency dismisses reports of explosion at an Iranian nuclear facility Source: Associated Press via Fox News Date: January 29, 2013 The U.N. nuclear agency is dismissing reports of a major explosion at Iran’s fortified underground nuclear facility. International Atomic Energy Agency spokeswoman Gill Tudor told The Associated Press on Tuesday that Iran’s denial of “an incident” at the Fordo uranium enrichment plant is “consistent with our observations.” [...] A diplomat familiar with the issue told AP that the IAEA’s information came directly from IAEA inspectors at Fordo. [...] The IAEA has a number of times in the past proven to be willfully blind. Why should this assurance be different from its others? |