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Huge Blast At Iran's Fordow Nuclear Plant... U.N. Won't Deny Explosions...

 
Ger_reG

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even if true, iran will not admit it because then they have to act, and they really don't want to act because it would be the end of iran! But i doubt it happened. There would be reports of locals, military zones and so on. Nothing more to say.
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IAEA opinion is more important imo and you're right about this 0-credibility dude, but still this isn't concrete proof for me, need more to be convinced tbh, seen too many of these shit. As i said, maybe could have happened maybe not, dunno, but i'm not jumping on the definitely happened bandwagon yet.
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername

Why not pay them a personal visit and demand to see the facility yourself?

Iran denied it happened, why believe they are liars when your own country is probably feeding you bullshit that you swallow whole without a second thought?

When your Gov gives Israel a 99 year lease on part of Cyprus are you going to take that as the smartest thing since sliced bread?
 Quoting: MHz


Why don't you give us a break with your BS? How does this sound? Did you pay them a visit yourself and know better than the rest? What Cyprus has to do with this? Very sloppy deflection attempt and i've already said that i don't buy this story yet and it's probably a distraction from the real news, so you really picking up the wrong guy to play smartass here, do you have issues in reading properly? Your own govt feeds you the absolute truth i suppose right? Or are you the above all and wide awake kinda dude?

Relax and stop posting BS mate, you trying too hard, some of the attempts to canonize Iranian govt on every humanitarian and state aspect in this forum are pathetic and i'm not talking about the Fordo incident here, same goes for the other side for me at least. I'll believe whatever i feel like and your unbalanced and one-sided opinion most certainly won't change that, most in here know where i stand.
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The commander of israeli special forces was promoted for a certian "succsesful opeartion" shortly after the explosion.
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Liars are always promoted in Israel and the West, what's your point?
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our own govt feeds you the absolute truth i suppose right? Or are you the above all and wide awake kinda dude?
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No they use half truth just about all the time. I usually try to verify something, after a week of no real facts coming out I feel quire safe on taking the side that the original story was all bullshit from the start. That also means more stories from the same source are also going to be taken with a great de4al of skepticism.

BTW who is 'we'?
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Despite staunch denials by Iran, new details regarding explosion in nuclear site depict moments of detonation as allegedly captured by CCTV

[link to www.ynetnews.com]
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Despite staunch denials by Iran, new details regarding explosion in nuclear site depict moments of detonation as allegedly captured by CCTV

[link to www.ynetnews.com]
 Quoting: Dixie Normous


According to a Tuesday report by WND, the Revolutionary Guard has set up a 15km security zone around the site, cordoning it off completely.

The website said that among those now trapped in the belly of the mountain are 16 North Koreans, including 14 technicians, and two top military officers.

Iran insists the reports are "Western propaganda," but WND claims that the Times of London and the Germany's Die Welt both have sources that corroborated that a blast has crippled the Islamic Republic's most important nuclear site.
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WND’s exclusive report by Reza Kahlili, a former CIIA agent in Iran’s Revolutionary Guard, that a key Iranian nuclear facility was devastated by an explosion last week was confirmed by Israeli intelligence officials speaking to the Times of London.

Then Tel Aviv sources for The Australian did the same thing, and the Missing Peace organization in the United Kingdom, citing the word of Dr. Ali Reza Nourizadah of the Centre for Arab and Iranian Studies in London, even had a few details.

“Nourizadeh, who is a commentator for Deutsche Welle and the Voice of America [and] has an extensive network of contacts in Iran, told us that the explosion has caused relative (sic) little damage to the uranium enrichment facility itself, but that the blast has blocked the entrance to Fordow. He confirmed that more than 200 personnel are trapped in the plant…”

[link to www.wnd.com]
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Despite staunch denials by Iran, new details regarding explosion in nuclear site depict moments of detonation as allegedly captured by CCTV

[link to www.ynetnews.com]
 Quoting: Dixie Normous


According to a Tuesday report by WND, the Revolutionary Guard has set up a 15km security zone around the site, cordoning it off completely.

The website said that among those now trapped in the belly of the mountain are 16 North Koreans, including 14 technicians, and two top military officers.

Iran insists the reports are "Western propaganda," but WND claims that the Times of London and the Germany's Die Welt both have sources that corroborated that a blast has crippled the Islamic Republic's most important nuclear site.
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the monthly atomic energy checkup on the fordo facility should be in about 3days so then we will know whats up.
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our own govt feeds you the absolute truth i suppose right? Or are you the above all and wide awake kinda dude?
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No they use half truth just about all the time. I usually try to verify something, after a week of no real facts coming out I feel quire safe on taking the side that the original story was all bullshit from the start. That also means more stories from the same source are also going to be taken with a great de4al of skepticism.

BTW who is 'we'?
 Quoting: MHz


Yeah, reading skills i was just talking about i guess, there's no 'we', i said 'your'. It's good to feel safe about your own opinion mate, but this doesn't make it a fact for me does it? I've seen you argue that Aleppo university was bombed by a patriot SAM which is not even fucking possible, does this make it a fact too? Your opinion is well documented throughout this forum and respected by me as all opinions are, but don't expect everyone to agree with it and don't try to shove it down my throat with aggressive deflection tactics when our opinions on this particular subject aren't that far to begin with. Peace.
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Here is the WND story that YNET are referencing...

[link to www.wnd.com]
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WHITE HOUSE Press Briefing by Press Secretary Jay Carney, 1/28/2013

Q There were weekend reports of a very significant explosion at a nuclear facility in Iran -- Fordow; Fordow is the name of it, near Qom. And I wonder if you have anything that you can relay to us about what the U.S. government does or does not know about that. And also, there has been a glitch in trying to get the next P5-plus-1 talks with Iran, try to get it this month now, pushing into February. Is there anything new you want to tell us about the evaluation of the inability to get that process moved ahead?

MR. CARNEY: Sure. I appreciate both questions. On the first, we have no information to confirm the allegations in that report, and we do not believe the report is credible.

On the status --

Q -- of have an explosion of any kind?

MR. CARNEY: Correct, at the Fordow facility. We don't believe those are credible reports. We have no information that would confirm them and do not believe that those reports or that report is credible.

In terms of the P5-plus-1 talks, let’s be clear here that Iran did not accept the P5-plus-1 offer to go to Istanbul on January 28 and 29. The P5-plus-1 have offered concrete dates and venues since December and have shown flexibility regarding a date and venue, but Iran -- not for the first time -- has been continually putting forward new conditions as a delaying tactic. And the negotiations about negotiations is a familiar tactic that only results in further isolation and more pressure on Iran. So it’s not -- it will not achieve anything.

We have, however -- though there is still no agreement on the next round of talks, contacts are ongoing. And since Iran did not accept the offer to go to Istanbul on January 28 and 29, the P5-plus-1 have offered new dates in February. But let’s be clear, negotiating over negotiations is not a tactic that produces positive results for Iran; it only results in more isolation and more pressure.

Q And the President has said from this podium and other venues he’s not interested in that process, in allowing it to go on forever and ever -- negotiating by negotiating. When does this get to that point?

MR. CARNEY: Precisely. And that's why we’re being very clear with our partners about the fact that negotiations have to be over concrete issues, not over further negotiations. And we’ve been clear about what -- with our partners, what we’re ready and when we’re ready to take up these negotiations again. And Iran has to take the next step and engage.
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WND’s exclusive report by Reza Kahlili, a former CIIA agent in Iran’s Revolutionary Guard, that a key Iranian nuclear facility was devastated by an explosion last week was confirmed by Israeli intelligence officials speaking to the Times of London.

Then Tel Aviv sources for The Australian did the same thing, and the Missing Peace organization in the United Kingdom, citing the word of Dr. Ali Reza Nourizadah of the Centre for Arab and Iranian Studies in London, even had a few details.

“Nourizadeh, who is a commentator for Deutsche Welle and the Voice of America [and] has an extensive network of contacts in Iran, told us that the explosion has caused relative (sic) little damage to the uranium enrichment facility itself, but that the blast has blocked the entrance to Fordow. He confirmed that more than 200 personnel are trapped in the plant…”

[link to www.wnd.com]
 Quoting: Dixie Normous


There are 4 sources so far. A fifth source if you count Jay Carney denying the story...

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Just show dat fucking cctv footage
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WND’s exclusive report by Reza Kahlili, a former CIIA agent in Iran’s Revolutionary Guard, that a key Iranian nuclear facility was devastated by an explosion last week was confirmed by Israeli intelligence officials speaking to the Times of London.

Then Tel Aviv sources for The Australian did the same thing, and the Missing Peace organization in the United Kingdom, citing the word of Dr. Ali Reza Nourizadah of the Centre for Arab and Iranian Studies in London, even had a few details.

“Nourizadeh, who is a commentator for Deutsche Welle and the Voice of America [and] has an extensive network of contacts in Iran, told us that the explosion has caused relative (sic) little damage to the uranium enrichment facility itself, but that the blast has blocked the entrance to Fordow. He confirmed that more than 200 personnel are trapped in the plant…”

[link to www.wnd.com]
 Quoting: Dixie Normous

Here is a report that is sure to cause you personal nightmares. (I guess we can label all your sourse as being flat out liars eh?)

Title: UN agency dismisses reports of explosion at an Iranian nuclear facility
Source: Associated Press via Fox News
Date: January 29, 2013

The U.N. nuclear agency is dismissing reports of a major explosion at Iran’s fortified underground nuclear facility.

International Atomic Energy Agency spokeswoman Gill Tudor told The Associated Press on Tuesday that Iran’s denial of “an incident” at the Fordo uranium enrichment plant is “consistent with our observations.” [...]

A diplomat familiar with the issue told AP that the IAEA’s information came directly from IAEA inspectors at Fordo. [...]
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Just show dat fucking cctv footage
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I'd love to see that footage myself
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WND’s exclusive report by Reza Kahlili, a former CIIA agent in Iran’s Revolutionary Guard, that a key Iranian nuclear facility was devastated by an explosion last week was confirmed by Israeli intelligence officials speaking to the Times of London.

Then Tel Aviv sources for The Australian did the same thing, and the Missing Peace organization in the United Kingdom, citing the word of Dr. Ali Reza Nourizadah of the Centre for Arab and Iranian Studies in London, even had a few details.

“Nourizadeh, who is a commentator for Deutsche Welle and the Voice of America [and] has an extensive network of contacts in Iran, told us that the explosion has caused relative (sic) little damage to the uranium enrichment facility itself, but that the blast has blocked the entrance to Fordow. He confirmed that more than 200 personnel are trapped in the plant…”

[link to www.wnd.com]
 Quoting: Dixie Normous

Here is a report that is sure to cause you personal nightmares. (I guess we can label all your sourse as being flat out liars eh?)

Title: UN agency dismisses reports of explosion at an Iranian nuclear facility
Source: Associated Press via Fox News
Date: January 29, 2013

The U.N. nuclear agency is dismissing reports of a major explosion at Iran’s fortified underground nuclear facility.

International Atomic Energy Agency spokeswoman Gill Tudor told The Associated Press on Tuesday that Iran’s denial of “an incident” at the Fordo uranium enrichment plant is “consistent with our observations.” [...]

A diplomat familiar with the issue told AP that the IAEA’s information came directly from IAEA inspectors at Fordo. [...]
 Quoting: MHz


The IAEA has a number of times in the past proven to be willfully blind. Why should this assurance be different from its others?
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U.N. won't deny explosions at Iran nuke plant

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U.N. won't deny explosions at Iran nuke plant

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 Quoting: Dixie Normous


In a statement to Reuters, IAEA spokeswoman Gill Tudor implied the U.N. agency had inspected the site after the reported explosions and affirmed Tehran’s insistence that the report was false.

But when asked by WND, Tudor would not confirm or deny the incident.

“The agency does not evaluate matters in Iran other than those directly relating to its nuclear verification work, so although we’re aware of these media reports, we are not in a position either to confirm or deny them,” Tudor said in an email to WND.

“That said,” she continued, “I’m sure you are aware that agency inspectors regularly visit Iranian nuclear facilities under the IAEA’s safeguards agreement with that country. (You will find more information on the IAEA’s safeguards mandate and activities in Iran at [link to www.iaea.org]

“We understand Iran has denied that there has been an incident at Fordow, and this is consistent with our observations,” Tudor said.

However, in a follow-up inquiry by WND to verify if the IAEA had inspected the site since the report of the explosions, Tudor refused to answer.

“I’m very sorry but I can’t go into any further details on ongoing safeguards work, which is conducted with a high level of confidentiality,” she replied
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Worries about Iran’s response

An official with a European intelligence agency who cannot be named for security reasons said that both the IAEA and the United States are worried about questioning Iran’s denial.

They are aware of Iran’s lies, the official said, but fear Tehran could stop the cooperation it so far has provided to the IAEA over inspections and derail any future talks with the 5-plus-1.

The official said the regime’s response and its censorship of the details of the news alone verify that some kind of incident took place. He said Iran could lose all negotiating power if it admits the incident happened.

The Iranian Foreign Ministry source, in confirming the explosions, said today the Iranian Air Force is on high alert for war. The regime believes Israel and certain powers have started a plot to destabilize the regime’s nuclear installations and economy.
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As Europe adopts a new treaty to strengthen its union, and choses new authorities to speak with one voice for the continent, it confronts the fact that, with twenty seven countries, 500 million people, a combined economy bigger than the US, and almost 2 million soldiers under arms, the European Union is to all intents and purposes, a superpower.

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Iran to upgrade uranium equipment at Natanz – response to Fordo “sabotage”

In a letter dated Jan. 23, Iran notified the UN nuclear agency that it intends to install new IR2m centrifuges at the Natanz plant to upgrade uranium enrichment from five to 20 percent. This would make it possible to refine uranium faster that it can at the moment. DEBKAfile: This is Tehran’s defiant answer to the rumors that the main high-grade uranium enrichment facility at Fordo was sabotaged. The UN agency backed up Iran’s denial of this report, which means that Iran is now producing near-weapons grade uranium at two plants and and doubling its momentum toward a stock of weapons-grade material.

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'Panicked' Iran Makes Power Move After Blast

Two days after WND’s exclusive report on the devastating explosions at Iran’s Fordow nuclear site, Tehran informed the United Nations’ nuclear watchdog it was going to install thousands of modern centrifuges at another of its nuclear facilities in an apparent move to restore its bargaining position.

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