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Interesting that this fellow is a smoker.

Interview with Baron Benjamin de Rothschild
[link to undeletedevidence.blogspot.com]
"Our interlocutor turned out to be easygoing, quick to laugh and a chain-smoker. In the course of our 90-minute interview he polished off an entire pack of Marlboro Menthols."
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"Nicotine fights fear, anxiety, PTSD"

So does prayer, only talking to God doesn't give you lung cancer, emphysema, mouth cancer, bad breath, and nicotine stains on your fingers. Plus, unlike cigarettes, prayer is FREE!
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but Valium feels so much better and had no smell.
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Nicotine appears to work the exact opposite of fluoride

Chronic fluoride toxicity decreases the number of nicotinic acetylcholine receptors in rat brain
[link to www.sciencedirect.com]

Chronic exposure to nicotine has been reported to increase the number of nicotinic acetylcholine receptors (AChRs) in brain.
[link to molpharm.aspetjournals.org]
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Dr. Heath Motley says:
June 2, 2012 at 6:30 pm
The International Society for Fluoride Research(ISFR)
has reported studies implicating fluoride as a cause of chronic fatigue syndrome, sleep disorder, autism, down syndrome.
There's more.
Fluoxetine hydrochloride (Prozac, Fontex, Ladose, Sarafem.) Fluoxetine is an anti-depressant, anyone who knows what these evil drugs are capable of will know the danger this presents.
Another use for Fluoride? Methylphosphonofluoridate, or Sarin nerve gas or more commonly know as mustard gas.
Ever wonder how the Nazi's were able to get millions of Jews to walk themselves into their own death willingly? Fluoride has a profound effect of causing people to become more docile and open to suggestion.
It makes you think twice about why people in this country don't seem to care about whats going on. Its not their fault entirely.
There is so much more on fluoride, I could put a lot more, but now I will show you where nicotine fits into the picture.
Nicotine, most know of it through smoking and tobacco use. I've always wondered why the US Government is so adament with anti-smoking and tobacco usage. The carcinogenic properties are bad yes, i don't condone smoking. I do however condone nicotine gum, or other nicotine treatments. Here is why.
Nicotine has an adverse effect on fluoride.
REmember how fluoride inhibits choleric activity? Nicotine excites them, rebounding and undoing fluorides effect. Nicotine is being used as a treatment for ADD and ADHD, Alzheimers, Parkinson's disease. I will not list the rest, for every single ailment fluoride is known to cause, nicotine has the reverse effect.
It makes you wonder, why people who smoke may find a considerably less effect from prozac and other anti-depressents. Why most people with ADD and ADHD develope into smokers.
[link to www.wakingtimes.com]
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"the confirmed stats are beyond questioning" indeed! Unfortunatelly you are talking about things that you have never seen and researched! If you would have bothered to check this Thread: The anti-smoking conspircy you would have seen medical statistics showing inverse correlations between lung cancer rates and smoking rates in many countries.
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The sooner the smoking of tobacco ends the better off the world will be. I am talking about the blood of my family..three good people dead before their time because of the tobacco industry.

The smoking/lung cancer correlation is at stronger than the link between asbestos and mesothelioma.

So in relation to your position I say again:

bsflag
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It's not the nicotine...it's the 1000s of chemicals the major manufacturers add to their smokes...
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About the 4,000 chemicals found in cigarettes:
One day, I decided to find the web site and start looking up each and every one of these chemicals. Well, I got through the D's, alphabetically. That took almost 3 hours, and I reached my limit. So how many people actually do this, and what can you learn from it? As you can imagine, it took a long time to do a search on each chemical, to see what it was, how it was used, and in what other products it was used.

Well, you may think you are doing a great thing by not smoking. But if you do the above exercise, you will find out that the same chemicals in cigarettes are also the same chemicals and preservatives and additives you will find in your processed food, hair and personal care products, cleaning products, and everything else our wonderful corporations manufacture to make our lives more pleasant.

So next time you are saying to a smoker "Did you know there are over 4,000 chemicals in that cancer stick you are smoking?", do a little research before hand and find out whether you are being the pot calling the kettle black. You are likely just as guilty of consuming those same 4,000 chemicals, without knowing it.

We are given so little real information or facts, just headlines and propagandas that we believe whatever authorities and the media tells us, without doing any research. This whole cigarette thing has gone in 360-degree circles over the past 100 years, from doctors advocating it, to society demonizing it. Don't you think maybe there is more to the story?

Personally, anytime the FDA or CDC or WHO says something is bad for you, I tend to think it is probably good, and vice versa. Raw Milk: Bad! Pasteurized Milk: Good! Eggs: Bad! No, wait, eggs good! Wheat: Good! No, wait, wheat bad!

Keep believing what they shovel at you and keep being jerked around, or start thinking for yourself and really researching. But recognize that most studies nowadays are just shams, just propaganda. You really have to dig, because search engines will filter results, and list mostly what authorities and officials want people to believe. You will need to re-word your query many, many times to start getting articles of true facts rather than propaganda.
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Thanks for your post. Yes, I too did this research on the chemicals because I am extremely chemical sensitive and suffer several immune diseases from it. I had to purge my life of many of those "pleasures" including perfumes, dryer sheets, cleaning supplies, carpet, glues, solvents, certain beauty products...this list is endless. I also purged any mainstream cigs and smoke organic tobacco. It's not perfect I'm sure, but as smoking has its benefits to me, I've done the best I can.
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The reason smoking is so addictive is because the nicotine reaches the brain in 7 seconds. The reason for anxiety is the body sending out signals for its next fix. So approximately 10 minutes after smoking a cigarette the body begins detoxing and the level of anxiety begins to increase - meaning the level of nicotine needed to stay in a state of perceived relaxation increases.

In addition, there have also been numerous studies of how secondhand smoke affects infants and children creating respiratory problems and asthma. Secondhand smoke also negatively affects the health of those who do not smoke. Then there is the risk to increased heart disease and of course lung damage.

Nicotine as with caffeine and even marajuana all have their medical benefits. However, it's the delivery of the drug into the system as with marajuana and nicotine that needs to be taken into account. There is no need for thousands of non-smokers to have to suffer the negative heath consequences of secondhand smoke if the drug is used in a prescription form. Nor would the negative health effects of smoking be a consideration if the drug was introduced biochemically in a different manner other then smoking.

Working in a psychiatric hospital I saw how some doctors pushed the patients into smoking for a variety of reasons. The first being to help patients with their boredom and the second to use their subsequent addiction as a means to manipulate their behavior with regard to a reward and punishment system. Smoking gave the patients something to do along with else to think about.

Are you aware that when a smoking pregnant woman gives birth - the baby is also addicted?

Smoke from cigarettes also seeps into the walls, clothing, curtains and interior of cars where children live or play. It gets all over the windows leaving a film and created all types of damage that the owners of various businesses who had allowed smoking in their establishments had to pay to be cleaned up. Then their is also the lost time at work where the smoker had to go out and get their fix that the employer was paying for too - along with the health care costs of other employees who suffered from working in a smoke filled environment.

As for the depression following withdrawal - this is a given for almost any addictive substance that someone is trying to detox from. Cognitive function was first impaired upon someone's experience of trauma. Trauma can occur in a variety of ways and the brain adapts to a new dysfunctional behavioral pattern as a means of survival. Subsequently, when an individual become emotionally or physically overwhelmed they tend to fall back to earlier coping skills that they learned in the earlier part of their life - which don't necessarily work the best as an adult.

However, there is another type of trauma (loud noises from bombs, head trauma from a variety of impacts to the skull) which actually create brain injuries/damage and is identified as another type of PTSD. And there is the type of trauma from child sex abuse that also results in PTSD. I've worked with both type of adult patients as their doctor and seen good results with PDST from a specific type of NeuroFeedback systems treatment utilizing glasses with flashing lights.

For example, this is disEntrainment through photo-stimulation. By sending specially calibrated flickering light through the eyes and into the brain, ROSHI In-Sight Glasses help “DisEntrain” the mind, freeing it from its unhealthy cyclical patterns. The brain attain a meditative “normalized” state in which it becomes totally at rest …yet attentive at the same time—similar to the brain of a Zen Master. It is in these “quieter” EEG moments that the brain “corrects” itself.

The lights in ROSHI In-Sight glasses create an LED and MagStim flicker, driven by a Dynamic Vector Equilibrium algorithm, contained within the NeuroDynamic Activator. This presents the brain with a complex set of phase instructions that it must accurately follow, in order to correct its own internal phase vector errors—true linear to non-linear transformation, in real-time.
It is with this unique method that the brain performs its own neurofeedback duties, without any outside human intervention or drug stimulation.

The goal is to have a healthy body sans drugs when possible.
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.
Winston Churchill
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Nicotine appears to work the exact opposite of fluoride

Chronic fluoride toxicity decreases the number of nicotinic acetylcholine receptors in rat brain
[link to www.sciencedirect.com]

Chronic exposure to nicotine has been reported to increase the number of nicotinic acetylcholine receptors (AChRs) in brain.
[link to molpharm.aspetjournals.org]
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Dr. Heath Motley says:
June 2, 2012 at 6:30 pm
The International Society for Fluoride Research(ISFR)
has reported studies implicating fluoride as a cause of chronic fatigue syndrome, sleep disorder, autism, down syndrome.
There's more.
Fluoxetine hydrochloride (Prozac, Fontex, Ladose, Sarafem.) Fluoxetine is an anti-depressant, anyone who knows what these evil drugs are capable of will know the danger this presents.
Another use for Fluoride? Methylphosphonofluoridate, or Sarin nerve gas or more commonly know as mustard gas.
Ever wonder how the Nazi's were able to get millions of Jews to walk themselves into their own death willingly? Fluoride has a profound effect of causing people to become more docile and open to suggestion.
It makes you think twice about why people in this country don't seem to care about whats going on. Its not their fault entirely.
There is so much more on fluoride, I could put a lot more, but now I will show you where nicotine fits into the picture.
Nicotine, most know of it through smoking and tobacco use. I've always wondered why the US Government is so adament with anti-smoking and tobacco usage. The carcinogenic properties are bad yes, i don't condone smoking. I do however condone nicotine gum, or other nicotine treatments. Here is why.
Nicotine has an adverse effect on fluoride.
REmember how fluoride inhibits choleric activity? Nicotine excites them, rebounding and undoing fluorides effect. Nicotine is being used as a treatment for ADD and ADHD, Alzheimers, Parkinson's disease. I will not list the rest, for every single ailment fluoride is known to cause, nicotine has the reverse effect.
It makes you wonder, why people who smoke may find a considerably less effect from prozac and other anti-depressents. Why most people with ADD and ADHD develope into smokers.
[link to www.wakingtimes.com]
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Thread: Pentagon hopes nicotine plant can 'cure' chemical weapons effects
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For example, this is disEntrainment through photo-stimulation. By sending specially calibrated flickering light through the eyes and into the brain, ROSHI In-Sight Glasses help “DisEntrain” the mind, freeing it from its unhealthy cyclical patterns. The brain attain a meditative “normalized” state in which it becomes totally at rest …yet attentive at the same time—similar to the brain of a Zen Master. It is in these “quieter” EEG moments that the brain “corrects” itself.

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Curious - are these glasses available to the public? Do they aid in reaching and holding the alpha state?
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why the fuck you think every mental hospital and AA meeting has giant smoking areas and ash trays??

it's the only thing holding the defectives together!!! lmao
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Statistically pipe smokers live 7 years longer than non-smokers. Why? The combination of nicotine and quiet time spent leisurely puffing away is a sure-fire remedy for the greater danger of stress.
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This is some bullshit self masturbation thread for smokers. I stopped smoking and I feel tons better than when I smoked.
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Interesting that this fellow is a smoker.

Interview with Baron Benjamin de Rothschild
[link to undeletedevidence.blogspot.com]
"Our interlocutor turned out to be easygoing, quick to laugh and a chain-smoker. In the course of our 90-minute interview he polished off an entire pack of Marlboro Menthols."
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I guess not all wealthy people are health nuts. Some are just crazy. Smoking a pack of cigarettes in 90 minutes is downright stupid.
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It also constricts your blood vessels and hardens them over time. Not worth it.
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Well hell son, I could have told you that. ;)
sure it bottles up all them emotions up somewhere, which may cause cancer in the long run.
But for now, having a smoke just makes life, not so bad.
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Actually it does not cause cancer: Thread: The anti-smoking conspircy
[link to www.sott.net]
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Bullshit ...3 out of 5 of my mum's heavy smoking family..lung cancer, emphysema and heart attack....go figure. The anecdotal evidence and the confirmed stats are beyond questioning, beats me who is putting you up to this..I hope they pay well!!!

bsflag
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This is showing how clueless are the angry sheeple like you:

Nicotine and tobacco smoke cause augmentation of myocardial oxygen supply, even during moderate hypoxaemia.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

Acute myocardial infarction soon after nicotine replacement therapy
[link to qjmed.oxfordjournals.org]
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Sounds like a load of horseshit to me.

I get my nic from vaping. But it acts just like it should, as a mild stimulant, not a damn xanax.
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Xanax acts as a mild stimulant. Anxiety can freeze you up in a way that feels like lethargy or a need for a stimulant. It seems paradoxical or ironic, but increasing GABA calms and cools the brain which releases energy to act effectively.
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Nicotine seems to keep the allergies at bay also.
My husband has been trying to quit for several years now. I have noticed, as has he, that everytime he eliminates the nicotine, he has allergy problems. Allergy pills do not help. The only thing that does help is nicotine.
I'm not going to push him to quit nicotine, just cigarettes. He can get his nicotine through the e-cig or other means. The allergy problems just are not worth it.
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love me some nicotine...now I know whytounge
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It's true. Why do you think so many combat soldiers smoke. Nicotine is a tranquilizer.
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what do you think Obama is CHEWING every chance he gets?
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what do you think Obama is CHEWING every chance he gets?
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Obama Is Generous With His Nicorette Gum
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Nicotine appears to work the exact opposite of fluoride

Chronic fluoride toxicity decreases the number of nicotinic acetylcholine receptors in rat brain
[link to www.sciencedirect.com]

Chronic exposure to nicotine has been reported to increase the number of nicotinic acetylcholine receptors (AChRs) in brain.
[link to molpharm.aspetjournals.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21106518


Dr. Heath Motley says:
June 2, 2012 at 6:30 pm
The International Society for Fluoride Research(ISFR)
has reported studies implicating fluoride as a cause of chronic fatigue syndrome, sleep disorder, autism, down syndrome.
There's more.
Fluoxetine hydrochloride (Prozac, Fontex, Ladose, Sarafem.) Fluoxetine is an anti-depressant, anyone who knows what these evil drugs are capable of will know the danger this presents.
Another use for Fluoride? Methylphosphonofluoridate, or Sarin nerve gas or more commonly know as mustard gas.
Ever wonder how the Nazi's were able to get millions of Jews to walk themselves into their own death willingly? Fluoride has a profound effect of causing people to become more docile and open to suggestion.
It makes you think twice about why people in this country don't seem to care about whats going on. Its not their fault entirely.
There is so much more on fluoride, I could put a lot more, but now I will show you where nicotine fits into the picture.
Nicotine, most know of it through smoking and tobacco use. I've always wondered why the US Government is so adament with anti-smoking and tobacco usage. The carcinogenic properties are bad yes, i don't condone smoking. I do however condone nicotine gum, or other nicotine treatments. Here is why.
Nicotine has an adverse effect on fluoride.
REmember how fluoride inhibits choleric activity? Nicotine excites them, rebounding and undoing fluorides effect. Nicotine is being used as a treatment for ADD and ADHD, Alzheimers, Parkinson's disease. I will not list the rest, for every single ailment fluoride is known to cause, nicotine has the reverse effect.
It makes you wonder, why people who smoke may find a considerably less effect from prozac and other anti-depressents. Why most people with ADD and ADHD develope into smokers.
[link to www.wakingtimes.com]
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The Conspiracy : How they are Killing your Pineal Gland

In the late 90&#8242;s, a scientist by the name of Jennifer Luke carries out the first study the effects of sodium fluoride on the pineal gland. She determined that the pineal gland, located in the middle of the brain, was a target for fluoride. The pineal gland simply absorbed more fluoride than any other physical matter in the body, even bones.

Pineal gland is like a magnet to sodium fluoride. This calcifies the gland and makes it no longer effective in balancing the entire hormonal processes through the body.

Various Researches every since have proved Sodium Fluoride goes to the most important gland in the brain? It's the only thing that attacks the most important center of our gland in the brain. It's prevalent in foods, beverages and in our bath and drinking water. Sodium Fluoride is put in 90% of the United States water supply. Water filters you buy in supermarkets do not take the fluoride out. Only reverse osmosis or water distillation. The cheapest way is to buy a water distiller.

Sodium Fluoride is in our water supply, food, pepsi, coke, to dumb down the masses, literally!. The fluoride was introduced into the water by the Nazis and the Russians in their concentration camps to make the camp population docile and do not question authority.

I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I believe that if you take away the seat of the soul, this disconnects our oneness with our god and power of our source our spirituality and turn us into a mundane slave of secret societies, shadow organizations and the control freak corporate world.

I like to end my article with this quote..

"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it." - :Buddha
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The rat pineal gland contains a high density of neuronal nicotinic acetylcholine receptors (nAChRs).

[link to molpharm.aspetjournals.org]
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NICOTINIC SIGNALING IN TIM PINEAL GLAND
Many of the numerous effects of nicotine on the human body are still unclear . Our preliminary data suggest that nicotinic acetylcholine neurotransmitter receptors are located in the pineal gland and play an important role in its function.
Furthermore, several recent studies have provided evidence for the presence of nicotinic acetylcholine receptors .(nAChR) iu the pineal gland.
Tarquini et al . (Tumori, 80 :229, 1994) found elevated circulating melatonin levels in chronic tobacco smokers. We found that nicotine stimulates the expression of NAT mRNA (PRELIMINARY DATA) . These data suggest a role of nicotinic signaling in the regulation of pineal function.
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This is some bullshit self masturbation thread for smokers. I stopped smoking and I feel tons better than when I smoked.
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clappa

Yep folks sure will talk up a storm to justify themselves, and the "smarter" they are the worse it gets.

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if it keeps my pineal gland in check and help compensate for the fluoride, I'm all good with it!ceegar
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This is some bullshit self masturbation thread for smokers. I stopped smoking and I feel tons better than when I smoked.
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clappa

Yep folks sure will talk up a storm to justify themselves, and the "smarter" they are the worse it gets.

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So what would you tell to all these people that are feeling much worse after quiting smoking?

Feel worse for giving up smoking...14 months down the line.
This is certainly not an inspirational post...but it is an honest one.
Please do not be discouraged by this post and ensure you read right through until the end.
I have been waiting and waiting and waiting to feel this burst of health and vitality that is supposed to occur when you give up the smokes.
It just hasn't happened.
I have been to my G.P (family doctor) because I have been feeling so rough and he says that it takes time!Like I said, it's best to get checked out by your doctor as I have done.
Apparently, you feel worse before you start feeling better.I reckon that's where I am at right now.
[link to smokelessellen.blogspot.ro]

I too quit and have the same exact symptoms breathing issues, and a terrible cough has been 3 weeks.

Same problem here. I cought a horrible chest cold from my grandson. In turn, i have asthma which seems worse with the rotten chest cold. I found Zyrtec which really did the trick for my allergies. Now the zyrtec is not holding up for me like it did 2 weeks ago so i have had to go back to the inhaler which i haven't had to touch since January of 07.
I have not smoked for almost two weeks and all i do is hack and cough.
I am almost afraid to stop smoking all together for fear that i will get something else.
Many people that i talk to tell me the same thing. They quit smoking after many years and develop something else.
My friends dad quit smoking after 40 years. Now he has every ailment under the sun. He was doing fine, then after about 6 months he started having all kinds of issues.
I don't know what to do.

Hi there, I am 28 and am the same. Quit smoking 3 weeks ago and SO SICK still. It's terrible hacking up, breathing problems, chest is killing me from cough, why?!!!!!!!!!!!!

I quit smoking about 2 months ago after smoking casually for about 14 years ( a pack a week,plus weed) I also had asthma when I was younger.
Ever since I quit smoking I feel like I'm going to die, for the first time in 14 years I have gone back to using my albuterol inhaler because i feel like my lungs are closing up on me and this is the only relief I have.
There is also a taste of blood or iron when I cough which worried me so I went to see a doctor and she said bascially the same thing all you guys here have been saying.
Sometimes too though I have problems sleeping because i have trouble breathing.
This is terrible and I hope I get over this soon.

My Name is Dee and I quit smoking in Feb. It is now October 28th and I feel worse today than I did when I was smoking. I quit smoking because Heart disease is common in my family and i had just found out my younger brother age 42 has heart disease . I became concernec enough that it made me quit. Well I must say, I can not believe i felt better when I smoked. Since I quit, I have had cat scans, lung scans, a left and right heart catherization and so many other tests its insane. They Find NOTHING. the only thing that was discovered is Sleep apnea , so now i look like an alien when i go to bed with this mask on.
I just dont know what to do about how I constantly feel like I am gasping for air. Its like someone is holding their hand over my mouth and nose and they only let me take tiny bits of air in.
Its almost feels like im suffocating.
Crazy huh?
anyone else have any idea how long this last, I mean, come on its, been 8 months allready , shouldnt I feel better now with no smoking , or am i better of going back, allthough I hate the smell of them anymore,.
thanks

I understand exactly what you are experiencing! I decided to get healthy last September so i quit smoking and joined a gym. I watched what i ate, hired a trainer and didnt smoke. I also started to get really sick. It started with sneezing and coughing. Then progressed to a tightness in my chest and finally not being able to breath. It was really scary! I went to the doctor, he tried allergy medicine and an inhaler. The allergy medicine helped some the inhaler was useless. We did a pulmonary test and the dr said i was looking at COPD, he gave me spariva. Within 48 hrs my breathing was worse and i began having severe chest pains. I stopped the spariva immediatly. I truly think the chest pains were caused by struggle to breath taxing my heart. Went back to the Dr and he sent me to a specialist. The Specialist has put me on Singulair at night and my allergy pill in the morning and my life has finally gotten back to normal. His explanation is that my immune system is busy trying to repair 20 years worth of smoking damage so i am more susceptable to everything else.
I'm glad i quit smoking but i sure wish someone would let you know these are some common side effects. All you ever hear and see are the benefits which are true but when you are struggling to breath and feel as if you are dieing it would have been nice to have a heads up. When i finally found this site i was so relieved to know it wasnt just me. I was very surprised to see so many people with the same problems. I thought i was the only one in the world to quit smoking and cant breath, go to the gym and get fat. LOL

I understand where you are coming from as well. I can't figure out for the life of me why quitting smoking would actually make you feel worse. But I'm glad that I found this site...so I know I'm not the only one experiencing some of these issues. I do understand the bodies need for repair after so many years of abusing it with smoking...I quit about 10 months ago. Have felt pretty good most of the time since I've quit except the last couple weeks. I have always gone to the gym...even as a smoker. I have a harder time breathing now than ever before. The last 2 weeks I've noticed what feels to me like asthma type symptoms...scares me so much. Afraid to go to the dr. I might try an Allergy Medication as I've read that so many others are trying.
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If smoking was realy that bad,nobody was smoking.I would say smoking is good,all the non smokers are on medication or suplements.
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