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Illinois now to allow Illegal Aliens to get driver's license, implications for all 50 states!

 
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As Illinois becomes the fourth and most populous state to issue driver's licenses to illegal immigrants, there are still nagging concerns that the measure doesn't have enough safeguards to avoid the identity fraud and other pitfalls faced by the three other states with similar laws.

Backers of the proposal, who tout it as a public-safety measure, argue that required facial recognition technology is reliable enough to prevent fraud, but opponents point to hundreds of fraudulent cases in New Mexico, Washington and Utah after those states began giving illegal immigrants permission to drive. Illinois will not require applicants to be fingerprinted, for fear that would discourage immigrants from applying.

"How many people would apply for this document knowing that fingerprints will be going to (federal authorities)? Probably not all that many," said Fred Tsao, policy director of the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights, a driving-force behind the measure.

But the other states' driving programs for illegal immigrants have been abused. New Mexico and Washington both issue licenses, while Utah issues a permit.

An Associated Press investigation last year found a striking pattern in New Mexico, suggesting immigrants tried to game the system to obtain a license. In one instance, 48 foreign-born individuals claimed to live at a smoke shop in Albuquerque to fulfill a state residency condition. New Mexico does not have a fingerprinting requirement, though it asks applicants to show two proofs of state residency.

Authorities also busted a fraud ring last year that forged documents for illegal immigrants to use after driving from as far as Illinois and North Carolina to obtain a New Mexico license. Gov. Susana Martinez has vowed for years to repeal the decade-old measure, but the legislature has repeatedly rejected such efforts.

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Put Iowa down for that too.
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So a state that is broke now has to put a bilingual employee in every DMV? At probably more pay than a english speaking employee.
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I believe the leftist communist state of Illinois is looking for potential taxpayers in the illegal aliens so that they might have a new taxable population to suck dry like parasites the Illinois government has become.
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Democratic Gov. Pat Quinn signed Illinois' measure into law Sunday in Chicago. Backers, including Quinn, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel and some of the state's top Republicans, tout it as a public-safety measure. They argue that required facial recognition technology is reliable enough to prevent fraud.


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"The Illinois secretary of state's office says its facial recognition database is highly sophisticated and accurate. The program uses an algorithm to match more than a dozen facial features that are not easy to alter, such as eye sockets and sides of the mouth."



I highly suspected that was why I had to take glasses off when I had the pleasure of paying $30 for a new license. Glare, ya good one.
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Can't have the Sinaloa Cartel driving around in Chicago without drivers licences when they do their drive-by's...
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Can't have the Sinaloa Cartel driving around in Chicago without drivers licences when they do their drive-by's...
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That is the most retarted statement I have ever read in my entire life. Cartels dont do drive bys there way more organized then street gangs...douchebag
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Next they'll chip them...
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Motor votor was put into place over two decades ago. Since then millions of illegals have registered to vote. In places like California, no questions asked.


You wonder how Obama won the last election? How frankenstein and boxer keep getting re-elected?


Please be advised: You are not registered to vote until you receive your voter's card from your County Board of Elections. If you do not receive your card within 3 weeks, you should contact the State Board of Elections at 1-800-222-VOTE (8683) to ensure your application has been processed.

What is "Motor Voter?"

Federal law requires the MVA to provide its customers the opportunity to apply to register to vote, or update voting information, during a driver's license or photo identification (ID) card transaction.

New Process (effective 2-21-12): Prior to your driver’s license or identification card transaction you will be given an "Applying to Register to Vote at MVA" flyer at the information counter. This flyer will instruct you on what to expect during the motor voter transaction. MVA customers will then answer the voter application questions through a computerized touch screen and their driver’s licenses or identification card signatures will be used to certify the application for voter registration. This information is then transmitted electronically to the State Board of Elections on a nightly basis. This process is paperless.
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Can't have the Sinaloa Cartel driving around in Chicago without drivers licences when they do their drive-by's...
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I can't this state.
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Can't have the Sinaloa Cartel driving around in Chicago without drivers licences when they do their drive-by's...
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Ya, the .gov works for them. .gov has armed this cartel, clamped down on homegrown weed for this cartel, banned cold/asthma medicine to help this cartel............
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Can't have the Sinaloa Cartel driving around in Chicago without drivers licences when they do their drive-by's...
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That is the most retarted statement I have ever read in my entire life. Cartels dont do drive bys there way more organized then street gangs...douchebag
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MS13 is the "Street gang" conduit for the Sineloa Cartel in the United States...and MS13 is taking over gangland Chicago...

You can call me a douchebag all you want, but the truth is the truth, MS13 is killing everything that moves in S. Chicago...
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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Can't have the Sinaloa Cartel driving around in Chicago without drivers licences when they do their drive-by's...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


That is the most retarted statement I have ever read in my entire life. Cartels dont do drive bys there way more organized then street gangs...douchebag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33044266


MS13 is the "Street gang" conduit for the Sineloa Cartel in the United States...and MS13 is taking over gangland Chicago...

You can call me a douchebag all you want, but the truth is the truth, MS13 is killing everything that moves in S. Chicago...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


HAHAHAHA. You obviously dont live in the hood. An LK would kill you just for saying that. THEY WILL NEVER ALOW ANY CALIFORNIA GANG TO SET UP SHOP IN THE CHI. The crips and bloods tried and failed. Second. MS13 is a joke nothing but a buncha beaners. The news just hypes them up. Stop watching gangland guy
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MS13 is the "Street gang" conduit for the Sineloa Cartel in the United States...and MS13 is taking over gangland Chicago...

You can call me a douchebag all you want, but the truth is the truth, MS13 is killing everything that moves in S. Chicago...



it seems we have a winner
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who is going to pay for their fucking Insurance???
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who is going to pay for their fucking Insurance???
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You are.
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Are they allowed to vote as well? Because that's all you need where I live.
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my god that state is so screwed up. they're also considering having everyone register their gold.
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Are they allowed to vote as well? Because that's all you need where I live.
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It's IL, vote early, vote often. Dead people vote, infants vote........
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That crap did'nt work here in Tennesse a few years ago. The lines outside of the Drivers Center were hours long.

Also, the amount of hit-and-run's increased two-fold due to the influx of illegal immigrants that had drivers licenses but no insurance.

Furthermore, the crime rate increased, violence increased, and you have to now show your birth certificate to apply for a concealed carry permit, whereas prior to the free licenses to the immigrants, all you had to show was a drivers license. The reason was that a shit ton of mexicans were applying for concealed carry permits with their drivers licenses when they were not even United States citizens...


Talk about a fucked up situation. It was one for the record books. And alot of DMV employees were prosecuted for selling licenses under-the-counter for cash to know illegal immigrants.

Leave it to Illinois to impliment that failed system...all for what?
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Can't have the Sinaloa Cartel driving around in Chicago without drivers licences when they do their drive-by's...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


That is the most retarted statement I have ever read in my entire life. Cartels dont do drive bys there way more organized then street gangs...douchebag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33044266


MS13 is the "Street gang" conduit for the Sineloa Cartel in the United States...and MS13 is taking over gangland Chicago...

You can call me a douchebag all you want, but the truth is the truth, MS13 is killing everything that moves in S. Chicago...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


HAHAHAHA. You obviously dont live in the hood. An LK would kill you just for saying that. THEY WILL NEVER ALOW ANY CALIFORNIA GANG TO SET UP SHOP IN THE CHI. The crips and bloods tried and failed. Second. MS13 is a joke nothing but a buncha beaners. The news just hypes them up. Stop watching gangland guy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33044266


Sorry if that offends your homeboy sensabilities, but again, threats aside, the truth is the truth...

Sineloa is moving drugs through Chicago via MS13, and MS13 is pushing in big time...don't believe me, ask the Chicago P.D., who are powerless to stop it, mainly because the shadow ops protect anyone tied to Sinaloa from prosecution...

[link to www.policeone.com]

And this article is from 2004...it's only gotten worse, as you can tell by the death toll in Chicago last year...

Last Edited by Saddletramp on 01/27/2013 11:35 PM
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Thread: Can We Segregate From The Mexicans Already?
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Furthermore, the crime rate increased, violence increased, and you have to now show your birth certificate to apply for a concealed carry permit, whereas prior to the free licenses to the immigrants, all you had to show was a drivers license. The reason was that a shit ton of mexicans were applying for concealed carry permits with their drivers licenses when they were not even United States citizens...



 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25342235


It's Il, there is no conceal carry in this state.
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I believe the leftist communist state of Illinois is looking for potential taxpayers in the illegal aliens so that they might have a new taxable population to suck dry like parasites the Illinois government has become.
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it's really disgusting
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Next they'll chip them...
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Lab rats or something?

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Which explains why the illegal aliens who crash landed at Roswell were taken into custody, for not having a valid license, tax, mot & insurance. Once aliens have licenses they'll be allowed to land legally.. so long as they show their passport, visa, medical insurance & bank statements too.
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Like I've been saying, the usa will be a 3rd world ghetto in the near future.
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Just make it a Felony to drive in your state with an Illinos drivers licence or plates.

10 years hard labor first offense.

Black, white, Mexican.

If these people are going to stand idely by while the JEws in their State make a mockery out of the USA and it's Laws....

Well then, punish the b@stards that voted them in,,,or failed to Vote.

Oh well, they elected them, let them...

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I know this really chaps my ass.

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