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I Know Why They Are REALLY Going After The Guns...

 
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the liberal mind is born defeated. just the way it is......
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Correct, but they are not aware of their Defeat.......therein lies the fun, Awareness.
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I was looking for a reason today as to why the big push for the gun grab when I stumbled onto this video. Its 19 minutes long so I clicked on it expecting to watch it for 2 minutes and move along. Besides, I figured the guy was some sort of Rastafarian nut. I could not have been more wrong. This man knows what he is talking about! His video should go viral. It's not really about the guns, It's about the money.


Gun Control Distraction, Economy, War and Liberty.



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 Quoting: CowgirlK


Right the fuck on!

I love this dude.

Thanks for posting, CGK.
 Quoting: Iconoclastics


No problem. After I found his video (with 390 views) I wanted to know who this guy was because he is the first person I have ever heard that paints a clear picture of what is really going on. I did a bit of research and discovered he is a math teacher living in Hawaii.

Here is the link to his youtube channel:
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

I LOVE this guy!!!!!
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California Senator Dianne Feinstein is up to her old tricks again. She held a press conference Thursday with an array of firearms at her side. Oddly enough she maintains that those guns are not used for hunting. Fact check department says she's dead wrong. What she's doing is trying to mislead the unknowing public through an 'assault-weapons ban' to satisfy a faulty agenda...

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First you say they aren't worried about our guns.

Then you say, they are worried about our guns. lol

great post.

norespect
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I was looking for a reason today as to why the big push for the gun grab when I stumbled onto this video. Its 19 minutes long so I clicked on it expecting to watch it for 2 minutes and move along. Besides, I figured the guy was some sort of Rastafarian nut. I could not have been more wrong. This man knows what he is talking about! His video should go viral. It's not really about the guns, It's about the money.


Gun Control Distraction, Economy, War and Liberty.



[link to youtu.be]
 Quoting: CowgirlK


Who
The
Hell
Is
This
Guy?

5stars

pinit
 Quoting: Professor Xavier


I just started a new thread with this video. Not to steal your thunder, CGK. I give you all the credit but people need to see this.

Thread: Everyone Needs To Watch This!!!

Last Edited by Iconoclastics on 01/27/2013 11:29 PM
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Not really. Yes they have all those t5hings and they can't stop a few Islamic militants, in Iraq, Afghanistan or any where else they have tried to use them. The "snake" keeps growing new Fangs and Heads!
American's would be a lot more intelligent and resourceful compared to those militants. Thus a much greater threat.

Guns create the feeling of having Independence, and of being able to have Freedom, or at least the hope of such things. Take them away and you demoralize any resistance to the Police State. This program has worked well for many Dictators and Police states.
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That's because of ROE. If we wanted to we could wipe all those fuckers out tomorrow. Has it ever occurred to people that the people who wanted these wars had no intention of a decisive victory? Keeping it long and drawn out = $$$. It's just like Vietnam. The ROE for Vietnam were ridiculous. They basically guaranteed a stalemate.

If and when the hammer does come down stateside I don't think they will be so concerned with ROE. This time it won't be about the $$$ but the power.
 Quoting: Iconoclastics


So they are going to destroy all the infrastructure in order yo gain control? Most of their weapons are useless against a guerilla war in their own country. Sort of like using a hand grenade in your own living room.
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First you say they aren't worried about our guns.

Then you say, they are worried about our guns. lol

great post.

norespect
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Reading comprehension, it helps.
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"Doubt is not a pleasant condition but certainty is absurd" ~ Voltaire

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Things are not as they seem....


Take this from a Marine whose friends are all military; your paranoia is unjustified, when it comes to the military going through with any act against civilians. If this does happen, we will not have a civil war, but a break up of the government, because the orders will not be followed. But seriously, DROP this scenario and turn your attention to something that really matters.

A war is brewing in the east, and its something that is probably, at this point - unstoppable...

You must remember, America has held world power for a decent amount of time, and in holding it, we have put the squeeze on several nations which will always have a bone to pick with us. Right now, I suspect Chinese and Russian agents are awaiting their orders to initiate a false flag, which will pit the survivalist-types/right-wingers against their own government. They've actually been planning this for quite some time. The Soviets always envisioned a war with us would start with Spetsnaz deep-plants detonating suit case nukes at key infrastructure points. This is still in play, as far as I am concerned, except now they are aided by Chinese hackers(who are guided by the Chinese army). They have us pegged, and they will initiate the first strike.

Take precautions, and prepare for Nuclear exchange. The United States has a cadre of secret weapons and defense systems which will protect us from a couple waves.

If these things happen, get the FUCK out any large city pronto and head for an unpopulated area far from any military base, power station, communications hub, or transportation hub. The wilderness would be your best bet.


1.) power goes out along with cellphone, Internet, and phone service. Water pressure is weak(this is the time to fill your last jugs before you Oscar mike)

2.) n Korea uses a nuclear weapon against s Korea
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Things are not as they seem....


Take this from a Marine whose friends are all military; your paranoia is unjustified, when it comes to the military going through with any act against civilians. If this does happen, we will not have a civil war, but a break up of the government, because the orders will not be followed. But seriously, DROP this scenario and turn your attention to something that really matters.

A war is brewing in the east, and its something that is probably, at this point - unstoppable...

You must remember, America has held world power for a decent amount of time, and in holding it, we have put the squeeze on several nations which will always have a bone to pick with us. Right now, I suspect Chinese and Russian agents are awaiting their orders to initiate a false flag, which will pit the survivalist-types/right-wingers against their own government. They've actually been planning this for quite some time. The Soviets always envisioned a war with us would start with Spetsnaz deep-plants detonating suit case nukes at key infrastructure points. This is still in play, as far as I am concerned, except now they are aided by Chinese hackers(who are guided by the Chinese army). They have us pegged, and they will initiate the first strike.

Take precautions, and prepare for Nuclear exchange. The United States has a cadre of secret weapons and defense systems which will protect us from a couple waves.

If these things happen, get the FUCK out any large city pronto and head for an unpopulated area far from any military base, power station, communications hub, or transportation hub. The wilderness would be your best bet.


1.) power goes out along with cellphone, Internet, and phone service. Water pressure is weak(this is the time to fill your last jugs before you Oscar mike)

2.) n Korea uses a nuclear weapon against s Korea
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25330472


I fully realize many decent people within law enforcement and the military will refuse to go along. This is why they will use private mercenaries and foreign troops in addition to those Americans who will tow the line.

I don't subscribe to the idea that the West and the East are in genuine conflict. It's mostly theater as far as I am concerned. Money talks and propaganda walks. The people running shit are not nationalists, they are globalists.
"The person who is in love with their vision of community will destroy community. But the person who loves the people around them will create community everywhere they go." ~ Dietrich Bonhoeffer

"Doubt is not a pleasant condition but certainty is absurd" ~ Voltaire

"The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion." ~ Thomas Paine




On Twitter @Iconoclastics
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We all know the Federal Government has us ridiculously outgunned. Apaches, Drones, Satellites, Missiles, Tanks, Nukes, etc.

So why are they so concerned about getting the guns?

It's not what you think. They aren't worried about private weapons and munitions posing a challenge to Federal power. They are well aware of their own capabilities. They are, however, worried about the pawns who will presumably carry out all this nonsense against us, i.e. traitorous and/or ignorant law enforcement, military, and private security (like Blackwater). If these assholes KNOW they aren't going to get any resistance, like gun fights threatening their safety, they will be much more confident and fierce in their execution of the police state.

It's simple, if the pawns meet too much resistance they may lose faith in the plan and give up. The PTB know that what they are planning is already so fucked up that a lot of would-be pawns won't even go for it (think Oathkeepers). The ones that do go for it however are obviously going to be selfish as fuck, so the safer the PTB can make it for them to carry this plan out the more likely they are to be successful.

Think of it this way... how many people would be willing to pick up a rattlesnake? Not many. How many people would be willing to pick up a de-fanged rattlesnake? Just about everyone.

Make sense?
 Quoting: Iconoclastics


They are going after guns because the economy HAS ALREADY TANKED according to my sources, and intel. They are barely keeping it alive...
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Looking at the wrong targets.

In a chess game, it is not the pawns you seek.

Of the kings, Queens, Knights, Bishops, Rooks playing stupid... you do not need millions of bullets.

1000 bullets would be enough.
 Quoting: NightWisp


Yeah, but you cannot touch the kings, queens, etc. without confronting the pawns first.

For the record, I am against armed revolution. I don't think it will work and if it does we will have proven nothing about our evolutionary capability. Violence only begets more violence and as long as we use it as a means to an end it will inevitably become our end.
 Quoting: Iconoclastics


But this isn't chess, and the game doesn't need to played that way. Small level opposition or even large protests will not stop those at the head of the snake.
If actions, particularly if law enforcement assisted, were directed at those at the top, the money for their agressive and murderous games would no longer be in play, nor would those PTW(were) be in control anymore.
Simply, if the head of the snake are those who own the Fed, don't protest at the Fed. Take it with law enforcement straight to the front doors of these people, and arrest them.
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I don't know if I totally agree with you, but I give you 5* for thinking it through OP...
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Things are not as they seem....


Take this from a Marine whose friends are all military; your paranoia is unjustified, when it comes to the military going through with any act against civilians. If this does happen, we will not have a civil war, but a break up of the government, because the orders will not be followed. But seriously, DROP this scenario and turn your attention to something that really matters.

A war is brewing in the east, and its something that is probably, at this point - unstoppable...

You must remember, America has held world power for a decent amount of time, and in holding it, we have put the squeeze on several nations which will always have a bone to pick with us. Right now, I suspect Chinese and Russian agents are awaiting their orders to initiate a false flag, which will pit the survivalist-types/right-wingers against their own government. They've actually been planning this for quite some time. The Soviets always envisioned a war with us would start with Spetsnaz deep-plants detonating suit case nukes at key infrastructure points. This is still in play, as far as I am concerned, except now they are aided by Chinese hackers(who are guided by the Chinese army). They have us pegged, and they will initiate the first strike.

Take precautions, and prepare for Nuclear exchange. The United States has a cadre of secret weapons and defense systems which will protect us from a couple waves.

If these things happen, get the FUCK out any large city pronto and head for an unpopulated area far from any military base, power station, communications hub, or transportation hub. The wilderness would be your best bet.


1.) power goes out along with cellphone, Internet, and phone service. Water pressure is weak(this is the time to fill your last jugs before you Oscar mike)

2.) n Korea uses a nuclear weapon against s Korea
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25330472


I fully realize many decent people within law enforcement and the military will refuse to go along. This is why they will use private mercenaries and foreign troops in addition to those Americans who will tow the line.

I don't subscribe to the idea that the West and the East are in genuine conflict. It's mostly theater as far as I am concerned. Money talks and propaganda walks. The people running shit are not nationalists, they are globalists.
 Quoting: Iconoclastics



You're right...about money and propaganda as the Chinese/Russian propaganda shills actually have the ear of right-wing paranoid types. They've been full court press against us since 9/11. Mr Jonsey in Austin gets his orders from the FSB in Moscow, but going after him would only inflate his base, and he is allowed to continue his mission. Do you really think the military, which is almost entirely Ron Paul-type conservatives will follow through with a gun grab? Hell no. Why do you think they authorized women in combat last week, just as they were told that 2 of the 2 females attempting to pass the infantry officer course failed? Why do you think they're stoking the public to buy weapons and ammunition knowing very well that it will dry their own supplies? Because this is the eleventh hour, and they will need every hand they can get. It's reverse psychology. Putting arms and ammunition into the hands of the people who will help restore order after the bombs stop falling. Right-wingers who love their country will lose the paranoia once China and Russia make their play.
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Things are not as they seem....


Take this from a Marine whose friends are all military; your paranoia is unjustified, when it comes to the military going through with any act against civilians. If this does happen, we will not have a civil war, but a break up of the government, because the orders will not be followed. But seriously, DROP this scenario and turn your attention to something that really matters.

A war is brewing in the east, and its something that is probably, at this point - unstoppable...

You must remember, America has held world power for a decent amount of time, and in holding it, we have put the squeeze on several nations which will always have a bone to pick with us. Right now, I suspect Chinese and Russian agents are awaiting their orders to initiate a false flag, which will pit the survivalist-types/right-wingers against their own government. They've actually been planning this for quite some time. The Soviets always envisioned a war with us would start with Spetsnaz deep-plants detonating suit case nukes at key infrastructure points. This is still in play, as far as I am concerned, except now they are aided by Chinese hackers(who are guided by the Chinese army). They have us pegged, and they will initiate the first strike.

Take precautions, and prepare for Nuclear exchange. The United States has a cadre of secret weapons and defense systems which will protect us from a couple waves.

If these things happen, get the FUCK out any large city pronto and head for an unpopulated area far from any military base, power station, communications hub, or transportation hub. The wilderness would be your best bet.


1.) power goes out along with cellphone, Internet, and phone service. Water pressure is weak(this is the time to fill your last jugs before you Oscar mike)

2.) n Korea uses a nuclear weapon against s Korea
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25330472


I fully realize many decent people within law enforcement and the military will refuse to go along. This is why they will use private mercenaries and foreign troops in addition to those Americans who will tow the line.

I don't subscribe to the idea that the West and the East are in genuine conflict. It's mostly theater as far as I am concerned. Money talks and propaganda walks. The people running shit are not nationalists, they are globalists.
 Quoting: Iconoclastics


It's a triad though. Just like predicted in 1984.
The problems are global, the solutions are not.
China is going to want to get paid.
Whether we have armed insurrection in this country, or we are able to negotiate a peaceful surrender based on the numbers game. Now, what? You've still inherited your country's debts to China, for starters.

These are going to be very difficult times.
I am praying that as people wake up, they really wake up
to just how enormous the problems we face are.

Our government is doing the exact wrong thing at every turn.
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Nothin' is making me touch a rattlesnake. even without fangs.
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THIS
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Looking at the wrong targets.

In a chess game, it is not the pawns you seek.

Of the kings, Queens, Knights, Bishops, Rooks playing stupid... you do not need millions of bullets.

1000 bullets would be enough.
 Quoting: NightWisp


Yeah, but you cannot touch the kings, queens, etc. without confronting the pawns first.

For the record, I am against armed revolution. I don't think it will work and if it does we will have proven nothing about our evolutionary capability. Violence only begets more violence and as long as we use it as a means to an end it will inevitably become our end.
 Quoting: Iconoclastics


"He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword".

however:

Isaiah 51:7 "Hear me, you who know what is right, you people who have my law in your hearts: Do not fear the reproach of men or be terrified by their insults.”

". . . and he who has no sword, let him sell
his garment and buy one." according to
Jesus in Luke 22:36
Yesteryear the “sword” was the equivalent to today’s ak47; the slingshot, the handgun.

"Praise be to the LORD my Rock, who trains my hands for
war, my fingers for battle" Psalm 144:1

Psalm 149:6
Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a two-edged sword in their hand

WAR:
Proof Christians are the "chosen":
Rev. 17:14
14These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

1 Peter 2:9
King James Version (KJV)
9But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

Christians: UR Chosen, Royal, Holy, Peculiar:
[link to www.youtube.com]

YOU ARE MARKED AS A CHOSEN VESSEL says THE LORD
Acts 9:15 :
[link to www.youtube.com]

Right to bear arms being trampled upon:
[link to www.therepublic.com]

OH YEAH! The United States Of America is in fact a Christian Nation
or Israel cannot be a Jew Nation:
[link to paminifarm.jeeran.com]
+ + +
Hosea 4:6:
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:
[link to www.youtube.com]
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Looking at the wrong targets.

In a chess game, it is not the pawns you seek.

Of the kings, Queens, Knights, Bishops, Rooks playing stupid... you do not need millions of bullets.

1000 bullets would be enough.
 Quoting: NightWisp


Yeah, but you cannot touch the kings, queens, etc. without confronting the pawns first.

For the record, I am against armed revolution. I don't think it will work and if it does we will have proven nothing about our evolutionary capability. Violence only begets more violence and as long as we use it as a means to an end it will inevitably become our end.
 Quoting: Iconoclastics


"He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword".

however:

Isaiah 51:7 "Hear me, you who know what is right, you people who have my law in your hearts: Do not fear the reproach of men or be terrified by their insults.”

". . . and he who has no sword, let him sell
his garment and buy one." according to
Jesus in Luke 22:36
Yesteryear the “sword” was the equivalent to today’s ak47; the slingshot, the handgun.

"Praise be to the LORD my Rock, who trains my hands for
war, my fingers for battle" Psalm 144:1

Psalm 149:6
Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a two-edged sword in their hand

WAR:
Proof Christians are the "chosen":
Rev. 17:14
14These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

1 Peter 2:9
King James Version (KJV)
9But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

Christians: UR Chosen, Royal, Holy, Peculiar:
[link to www.youtube.com]

YOU ARE MARKED AS A CHOSEN VESSEL says THE LORD
Acts 9:15 :
[link to www.youtube.com]

Right to bear arms being trampled upon:
[link to www.therepublic.com]

OH YEAH! The United States Of America is in fact a Christian Nation
or Israel cannot be a Jew Nation:
[link to paminifarm.jeeran.com]
+ + +
Hosea 4:6:
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:
[link to www.youtube.com]
+ + +

[link to www.savethemales.ca]
 Quoting: SwanSong 1249620


He who dies by the sword may not have ever truly lived......take your "Thou Shalt Not Kill" Jesuit bullshit someplace it is welcome SOB
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I was looking for a reason today as to why the big push for the gun grab when I stumbled onto this video. Its 19 minutes long so I clicked on it expecting to watch it for 2 minutes and move along. Besides, I figured the guy was some sort of Rastafarian nut. I could not have been more wrong. This man knows what he is talking about! His video should go viral. It's not really about the guns, It's about the money.


Gun Control Distraction, Economy, War and Liberty.



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 Quoting: CowgirlK


Right the fuck on!

I love this dude.

Thanks for posting, CGK.
 Quoting: Iconoclastics


No problem. After I found his video (with 390 views) I wanted to know who this guy was because he is the first person I have ever heard that paints a clear picture of what is really going on. I did a bit of research and discovered he is a math teacher living in Hawaii.

Here is the link to his youtube channel:
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

I LOVE this guy!!!!!
 Quoting: CowgirlK



Thanks for the find. This guy is very good and I appreciate what he is saying. I would point out though that Ron Paul said the same.
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Things are not as they seem....


Take this from a Marine whose friends are all military; your paranoia is unjustified, when it comes to the military going through with any act against civilians. If this does happen, we will not have a civil war, but a break up of the government, because the orders will not be followed. But seriously, DROP this scenario and turn your attention to something that really matters.

A war is brewing in the east, and its something that is probably, at this point - unstoppable...

You must remember, America has held world power for a decent amount of time, and in holding it, we have put the squeeze on several nations which will always have a bone to pick with us. Right now, I suspect Chinese and Russian agents are awaiting their orders to initiate a false flag, which will pit the survivalist-types/right-wingers against their own government. They've actually been planning this for quite some time. The Soviets always envisioned a war with us would start with Spetsnaz deep-plants detonating suit case nukes at key infrastructure points. This is still in play, as far as I am concerned, except now they are aided by Chinese hackers(who are guided by the Chinese army). They have us pegged, and they will initiate the first strike.

Take precautions, and prepare for Nuclear exchange. The United States has a cadre of secret weapons and defense systems which will protect us from a couple waves.

If these things happen, get the FUCK out any large city pronto and head for an unpopulated area far from any military base, power station, communications hub, or transportation hub. The wilderness would be your best bet.


1.) power goes out along with cellphone, Internet, and phone service. Water pressure is weak(this is the time to fill your last jugs before you Oscar mike)

2.) n Korea uses a nuclear weapon against s Korea
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25330472
We are deeply in debt to the Chinese and they are buying land and getting oil rights in this country and will get everything they can and possiblyeventually by force and they certainly want us disarmed. If you don't think we are being invaded now you better realize that Chinese are pouring into this country and have been for some time. It's part of the left wing agenda to sell this country out.
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BUT...BUT...BUT.....I'm too good looking to die!!!!HELP
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It's always been about power and control, and it always will be, until Jesus returns. One shot one kill die like men not like Piers Morgan...commie fag
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01/28/2013 12:18 AM
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We all know the Federal Government has us ridiculously outgunned. Apaches, Drones, Satellites, Missiles, Tanks, Nukes, etc.

So why are they so concerned about getting the guns?

It's not what you think. They aren't worried about private weapons and munitions posing a challenge to Federal power. They are well aware of their own capabilities. They are, however, worried about the pawns who will presumably carry out all this nonsense against us, i.e. traitorous and/or ignorant law enforcement, military, and private security (like Blackwater). If these assholes KNOW they aren't going to get any resistance, like gun fights threatening their safety, they will be much more confident and fierce in their execution of the police state.

It's simple, if the pawns meet too much resistance they may lose faith in the plan and give up. The PTB know that what they are planning is already so fucked up that a lot of would-be pawns won't even go for it (think Oathkeepers). The ones that do go for it however are obviously going to be selfish as fuck, so the safer the PTB can make it for them to carry this plan out the more likely they are to be successful.

Think of it this way... how many people would be willing to pick up a rattlesnake? Not many. How many people would be willing to pick up a de-fanged rattlesnake? Just about everyone.

Make sense?
 Quoting: Iconoclastics


You are wrong about the mismatch.
If you are talking about the US military launching
a full scale war against the American people, then
we are toast, and that scenario is national suicide.

If you are talking about using military forces and
paramilitary forces with all of their assets,
against 80 million well armed citizens, then all
the king's horses and all the king's men and all
their toys will be destroyed withing months.

Every high tech toy is operated by a human being that
can be killed quickly, and easily.
Hunters generally carry better rifles than the military,
I know I do. I can reach out farther and more accurately
than anyone I know with an M16 spray-gun.

The inactive military isn't going to sit by and watch
America be taken over by totalitarianism.
Great toys will quickly change hands.

You don't know what you're talking about, so this
thread, like many before it, will probably go
around in circles, with almost all comments by
people who also don't know what the hell they're
talking about.
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01/28/2013 12:27 AM
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We all know the Federal Government has us ridiculously outgunned. Apaches, Drones, Satellites, Missiles, Tanks, Nukes, etc.

So why are they so concerned about getting the guns?

It's not what you think. They aren't worried about private weapons and munitions posing a challenge to Federal power. They are well aware of their own capabilities. They are, however, worried about the pawns who will presumably carry out all this nonsense against us, i.e. traitorous and/or ignorant law enforcement, military, and private security (like Blackwater). If these assholes KNOW they aren't going to get any resistance, like gun fights threatening their safety, they will be much more confident and fierce in their execution of the police state.

It's simple, if the pawns meet too much resistance they may lose faith in the plan and give up. The PTB know that what they are planning is already so fucked up that a lot of would-be pawns won't even go for it (think Oathkeepers). The ones that do go for it however are obviously going to be selfish as fuck, so the safer the PTB can make it for them to carry this plan out the more likely they are to be successful.

Think of it this way... how many people would be willing to pick up a rattlesnake? Not many. How many people would be willing to pick up a de-fanged rattlesnake? Just about everyone.

Make sense?
 Quoting: Iconoclastics


You are wrong about the mismatch.
If you are talking about the US military launching
a full scale war against the American people, then
we are toast, and that scenario is national suicide.

If you are talking about using military forces and
paramilitary forces with all of their assets,
against 80 million well armed citizens, then all
the king's horses and all the king's men and all
their toys will be destroyed withing months.

Every high tech toy is operated by a human being that
can be killed quickly, and easily.
Hunters generally carry better rifles than the military,
I know I do. I can reach out farther and more accurately
than anyone I know with an M16 spray-gun.

The inactive military isn't going to sit by and watch
America be taken over by totalitarianism.
Great toys will quickly change hands.

You don't know what you're talking about, so this
thread, like many before it, will probably go
around in circles, with almost all comments by
people who also don't know what the hell they're
talking about.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33177851


Then what?
HJTRAS

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01/28/2013 12:30 AM
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Re: I Know Why They Are REALLY Going After The Guns...
We all know the Federal Government has us ridiculously outgunned. Apaches, Drones, Satellites, Missiles, Tanks, Nukes, etc.

So why are they so concerned about getting the guns?

It's not what you think. They aren't worried about private weapons and munitions posing a challenge to Federal power. They are well aware of their own capabilities. They are, however, worried about the pawns who will presumably carry out all this nonsense against us, i.e. traitorous and/or ignorant law enforcement, military, and private security (like Blackwater). If these assholes KNOW they aren't going to get any resistance, like gun fights threatening their safety, they will be much more confident and fierce in their execution of the police state.

It's simple, if the pawns meet too much resistance they may lose faith in the plan and give up. The PTB know that what they are planning is already so fucked up that a lot of would-be pawns won't even go for it (think Oathkeepers). The ones that do go for it however are obviously going to be selfish as fuck, so the safer the PTB can make it for them to carry this plan out the more likely they are to be successful.

Think of it this way... how many people would be willing to pick up a rattlesnake? Not many. How many people would be willing to pick up a de-fanged rattlesnake? Just about everyone.

Make sense?
 Quoting: Iconoclastics
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All is true except !!!!! Who would of thought the American fortitude would win the revolutionary war or the war of 1812. Our government does fear the its people as the British had to learn the hard way.
Sure on paper we have no chance. But Dude we have a lot of great warriors in this country and the US government knows it. Wall street nerds are in minority. Most Americans would snap the neck of that rattler suck its poison out and eat its hide. Get out of the city and realize who Americans are we are an indestructible one.
RAS
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01/28/2013 12:30 AM
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Looking at the wrong targets.

In a chess game, it is not the pawns you seek.

Of the kings, Queens, Knights, Bishops, Rooks playing stupid... you do not need millions of bullets.

1000 bullets would be enough.
 Quoting: NightWisp


Yeah, but you cannot touch the kings, queens, etc. without confronting the pawns first.

For the record, I am against armed revolution. I don't think it will work and if it does we will have proven nothing about our evolutionary capability. Violence only begets more violence and as long as we use it as a means to an end it will inevitably become our end.
 Quoting: Iconoclastics


"He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword".

however:

Isaiah 51:7 "Hear me, you who know what is right, you people who have my law in your hearts: Do not fear the reproach of men or be terrified by their insults.”

". . . and he who has no sword, let him sell
his garment and buy one." according to
Jesus in Luke 22:36
Yesteryear the “sword” was the equivalent to today’s ak47; the slingshot, the handgun.

"Praise be to the LORD my Rock, who trains my hands for
war, my fingers for battle" Psalm 144:1

Psalm 149:6
Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a two-edged sword in their hand

WAR:
Proof Christians are the "chosen":
Rev. 17:14
14These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

1 Peter 2:9
King James Version (KJV)
9But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

Christians: UR Chosen, Royal, Holy, Peculiar:
[link to www.youtube.com]

YOU ARE MARKED AS A CHOSEN VESSEL says THE LORD
Acts 9:15 :
[link to www.youtube.com]

Right to bear arms being trampled upon:
[link to www.therepublic.com]

OH YEAH! The United States Of America is in fact a Christian Nation
or Israel cannot be a Jew Nation:
[link to paminifarm.jeeran.com]
+ + +
Hosea 4:6:
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:
[link to www.youtube.com]
+ + +

[link to www.savethemales.ca]
 Quoting: SwanSong 1249620


He who dies by the sword may not have ever truly lived......take your "Thou Shalt Not Kill" Jesuit bullshit someplace it is welcome SOB
 Quoting: AdHocBOHICA


your short attention span has destroyed you
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01/28/2013 12:32 AM

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I was looking for a reason today as to why the big push for the gun grab when I stumbled onto this video. Its 19 minutes long so I clicked on it expecting to watch it for 2 minutes and move along. Besides, I figured the guy was some sort of Rastafarian nut. I could not have been more wrong. This man knows what he is talking about! His video should go viral. It's not really about the guns, It's about the money.


Gun Control Distraction, Economy, War and Liberty.



[link to youtu.be]
 Quoting: CowgirlK


Who
The
Hell
Is
This
Guy?

5stars

pinit
 Quoting: Professor Xavier


I just started a new thread with this video. Not to steal your thunder, CGK. I give you all the credit but people need to see this.

Thread: Everyone Needs To Watch This!!!
 Quoting: Iconoclastics

Thank You!!!!!! I don't care who takes credit, This mans voice need to be heard. I send Phen a PM asking her to please try and hunt him down to get him to do a GLP voice chat.

I also did some research and discovered that his name is "Crewton Ramone"

Here is his web page: [link to www.crewtonramoneshouseofmath.com]

We need his voice in America. He makes sense of the madness and can explain it to the masses in a way that people can understand.

hf
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01/28/2013 12:33 AM
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The big question is....if an assault was launched against the American people would the PEOPLE wake up and fight back and develop organized resistance?
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01/28/2013 12:34 AM
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Things are not as they seem....


Take this from a Marine whose friends are all military; your paranoia is unjustified, when it comes to the military going through with any act against civilians. If this does happen, we will not have a civil war, but a break up of the government, because the orders will not be followed. But seriously, DROP this scenario and turn your attention to something that really matters.

A war is brewing in the east, and its something that is probably, at this point - unstoppable...

You must remember, America has held world power for a decent amount of time, and in holding it, we have put the squeeze on several nations which will always have a bone to pick with us. Right now, I suspect Chinese and Russian agents are awaiting their orders to initiate a false flag, which will pit the survivalist-types/right-wingers against their own government. They've actually been planning this for quite some time. The Soviets always envisioned a war with us would start with Spetsnaz deep-plants detonating suit case nukes at key infrastructure points. This is still in play, as far as I am concerned, except now they are aided by Chinese hackers(who are guided by the Chinese army). They have us pegged, and they will initiate the first strike.

Take precautions, and prepare for Nuclear exchange. The United States has a cadre of secret weapons and defense systems which will protect us from a couple waves.

If these things happen, get the FUCK out any large city pronto and head for an unpopulated area far from any military base, power station, communications hub, or transportation hub. The wilderness would be your best bet.


1.) power goes out along with cellphone, Internet, and phone service. Water pressure is weak(this is the time to fill your last jugs before you Oscar mike)

2.) n Korea uses a nuclear weapon against s Korea
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25330472
We are deeply in debt to the Chinese and they are buying land and getting oil rights in this country and will get everything they can and possiblyeventually by force and they certainly want us disarmed. If you don't think we are being invaded now you better realize that Chinese are pouring into this country and have been for some time. It's part of the left wing agenda to sell this country out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33017162


Ever heard of hedging your bets? The Chinese are planning for multiple scenarios, but China does not control N Korea and Iran, and these two countries will decide what happens to the world. China has always planned to defeat us amilitarly through patience, and they've tried their hardest to rein N Korea, but that leash is all but frayed. The dogs of war are barking loudly. You'll see more and tests related to nuclear weapons all around the world in the coming days and months. Youll hear of rockets sending satelittes into space, and the rapid movement of troops. They know very well what is about to transpire, and they are directing the herd accordingly, as they should.

For those of you who doubt me, ask yourself one question: How do you think it would go over, if they alluded that WW3 was neigh?
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01/28/2013 12:40 AM

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You are wrong about the mismatch.
If you are talking about the US military launching
a full scale war against the American people, then
we are toast, and that scenario is national suicide.

If you are talking about using military forces and
paramilitary forces with all of their assets,
against 80 million well armed citizens, then all
the king's horses and all the king's men and all
their toys will be destroyed withing months.

Every high tech toy is operated by a human being that
can be killed quickly, and easily.
Hunters generally carry better rifles than the military,
I know I do. I can reach out farther and more accurately
than anyone I know with an M16 spray-gun.

The inactive military isn't going to sit by and watch
America be taken over by totalitarianism.
Great toys will quickly change hands.

You don't know what you're talking about, so this
thread, like many before it, will probably go
around in circles, with almost all comments by
people who also don't know what the hell they're
talking about.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33177851


Ok, sorry. I forgot you're on top of things. From now on I'll defer to you before any future posts.

Those Nazis and their collaborators must have been a human aberration, eh?

Last Edited by Iconoclastics on 01/28/2013 12:40 AM
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