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Blitz the storm-striker User ID: 33144957 Canada 01/27/2013 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We all know the Federal Government has us ridiculously outgunned. Apaches, Drones, Satellites, Missiles, Tanks, Nukes, etc. Quoting: Iconoclastics So why are they so concerned about getting the guns? It's not what you think. They aren't worried about private weapons and munitions posing a challenge to Federal power. They are well aware of their capabilities. They are, however, worried about the pawns who will presumably carry out all this nonsense against us, i.e. traitorous and/or ignorant law enforcement, military, and private security (like Blackwater). If these assholes KNOW they aren't going to get any resistance, like gun fights threatening their safety, they will be much more confident and fierce in their execution of the police state. It's simple, if the pawns meet too much resistance they may lose faith in the plan and give up. The PTB know that what they are planning is already so fucked up that a lot of would-be pawns won't even go for it (think Oathkeepers). The ones that do go for it however are obviously going to be selfish as fuck, so the safer the PTB can make it for them to carry this plan out the more likely they are to be successful. Think of it this way... how many people would be willing to pick up a rattlesnake? Not many. How many people would be willing to pick up a de-fanged rattlesnake? Just about everyone. Make sense? and those pawns are DHS! guess why they buy out so much ammo! To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth! The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be... Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together! your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you! The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love! The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself! There is no love in truth but there is truth in love! Be authentic, nobody else can do it for you! |
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Iconoclastics (OP) User ID: 30895273 United States 01/27/2013 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We all know the Federal Government has us ridiculously outgunned. Apaches, Drones, Satellites, Missiles, Tanks, Nukes, etc. Quoting: Iconoclastics So why are they so concerned about getting the guns? It's not what you think. They aren't worried about private weapons and munitions posing a challenge to Federal power. They are well aware of their capabilities. They are, however, worried about the pawns who will presumably carry out all this nonsense against us, i.e. traitorous and/or ignorant law enforcement, military, and private security (like Blackwater). If these assholes KNOW they aren't going to get any resistance, like gun fights threatening their safety, they will be much more confident and fierce in their execution of the police state. It's simple, if the pawns meet too much resistance they may lose faith in the plan and give up. The PTB know that what they are planning is already so fucked up that a lot of would-be pawns won't even go for it (think Oathkeepers). The ones that do go for it however are obviously going to be selfish as fuck, so the safer the PTB can make it for them to carry this plan out the more likely they are to be successful. Think of it this way... how many people would be willing to pick up a rattlesnake? Not many. How many people would be willing to pick up a de-fanged rattlesnake? Just about everyone. Make sense? and those pawns are DHS! guess why they buy out so much ammo! It's not just DHS. It is anyone who is in a law enforcement capacity. Local, state, and national. They will lose a lot of recruits once their plans are fully revealed. That's why they have to be sure to secure the support of those who stay on board, by making it as SAFE and SECURE as possible for them. "The person who is in love with their vision of community will destroy community. But the person who loves the people around them will create community everywhere they go." ~ Dietrich Bonhoeffer "Doubt is not a pleasant condition but certainty is absurd" ~ Voltaire "The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion." ~ Thomas Paine On Twitter @Iconoclastics |
Iconoclastics (OP) User ID: 30895273 United States 01/27/2013 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looking at the wrong targets. Quoting: NightWisp In a chess game, it is not the pawns you seek. Of the kings, Queens, Knights, Bishops, Rooks playing stupid... you do not need millions of bullets. 1000 bullets would be enough. Yeah, but you cannot touch the kings, queens, etc. without confronting the pawns first. For the record, I am against armed revolution. I don't think it will work and if it does we will have proven nothing about our evolutionary capability. Violence only begets more violence and as long as we use it as a means to an end it will inevitably become our end. "The person who is in love with their vision of community will destroy community. But the person who loves the people around them will create community everywhere they go." ~ Dietrich Bonhoeffer "Doubt is not a pleasant condition but certainty is absurd" ~ Voltaire "The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion." ~ Thomas Paine On Twitter @Iconoclastics |
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Brad Daylight User ID: 1779676 United States 01/27/2013 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pinned! This makes total sense, good post my friend. "I have felt despair many times in my life, but I do not keep a chair for it." ~Dr. Clarissa Pinkola Estes Today is a gift, that is why it is called "The Present" “When an opponent declares, “I will not come over to your side,” I calmly say, “Your child belongs to us already… What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.” - Adolf Hitler “If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.” -Oscar Wilde Have a nice day, may God bless you :D |
CE1 ***** User ID: 33142961 United States 01/27/2013 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We all know the Federal Government has us ridiculously outgunned. Apaches, Drones, Satellites, Missiles, Tanks, Nukes, etc. Quoting: Iconoclastics So why are they so concerned about getting the guns? It's not what you think. They aren't worried about private weapons and munitions posing a challenge to Federal power. They are well aware of their capabilities. They are, however, worried about the pawns who will presumably carry out all this nonsense against us, i.e. traitorous and/or ignorant law enforcement, military, and private security (like Blackwater). If these assholes KNOW they aren't going to get any resistance, like gun fights threatening their safety, they will be much more confident and fierce in their execution of the police state. It's simple, if the pawns meet too much resistance they may lose faith in the plan and give up. The PTB know that what they are planning is already so fucked up that a lot of would-be pawns won't even go for it (think Oathkeepers). The ones that do go for it however are obviously going to be selfish as fuck, so the safer the PTB can make it for them to carry this plan out the more likely they are to be successful. Think of it this way... how many people would be willing to pick up a rattlesnake? Not many. How many people would be willing to pick up a de-fanged rattlesnake? Just about everyone. Make sense? Very good! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33164436 United States 01/27/2013 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We all know the Federal Government has us ridiculously outgunned. Apaches, Drones, Satellites, Missiles, Tanks, Nukes, etc. Quoting: Iconoclastics So why are they so concerned about getting the guns? It's not what you think. They aren't worried about private weapons and munitions posing a challenge to Federal power. They are well aware of their capabilities. They are, however, worried about the pawns who will presumably carry out all this nonsense against us, i.e. traitorous and/or ignorant law enforcement, military, and private security (like Blackwater). If these assholes KNOW they aren't going to get any resistance, like gun fights threatening their safety, they will be much more confident and fierce in their execution of the police state. It's simple, if the pawns meet too much resistance they may lose faith in the plan and give up. The PTB know that what they are planning is already so fucked up that a lot of would-be pawns won't even go for it (think Oathkeepers). The ones that do go for it however are obviously going to be selfish as fuck, so the safer the PTB can make it for them to carry this plan out the more likely they are to be successful. Think of it this way... how many people would be willing to pick up a rattlesnake? Not many. How many people would be willing to pick up a de-fanged rattlesnake? Just about everyone. Make sense? Not really. Yes they have all those t5hings and they can't stop a few Islamic militants, in Iraq, Afghanistan or any where else they have tried to use them. The "snake" keeps growing new Fangs and Heads! American's would be a lot more intelligent and resourceful compared to those militants. Thus a much greater threat. Guns create the feeling of having Independence, and of being able to have Freedom, or at least the hope of such things. Take them away and you demoralize any resistance to the Police State. This program has worked well for many Dictators and Police states. |
Iconoclastics (OP) User ID: 30895273 United States 01/27/2013 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not really. Yes they have all those t5hings and they can't stop a few Islamic militants, in Iraq, Afghanistan or any where else they have tried to use them. The "snake" keeps growing new Fangs and Heads! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33164436 American's would be a lot more intelligent and resourceful compared to those militants. Thus a much greater threat. Guns create the feeling of having Independence, and of being able to have Freedom, or at least the hope of such things. Take them away and you demoralize any resistance to the Police State. This program has worked well for many Dictators and Police states. That's because of ROE. If we wanted to we could wipe all those fuckers out tomorrow. Has it ever occurred to people that the people who wanted these wars had no intention of a decisive victory? Keeping it long and drawn out = $$$. It's just like Vietnam. The ROE for Vietnam were ridiculous. They basically guaranteed a stalemate. If and when the hammer does come down stateside I don't think they will be so concerned with ROE. This time it won't be about the $$$ but the power. "The person who is in love with their vision of community will destroy community. But the person who loves the people around them will create community everywhere they go." ~ Dietrich Bonhoeffer "Doubt is not a pleasant condition but certainty is absurd" ~ Voltaire "The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion." ~ Thomas Paine On Twitter @Iconoclastics |
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Carbide User ID: 28794830 United States 01/27/2013 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looking at the wrong targets. Quoting: NightWisp In a chess game, it is not the pawns you seek. Of the kings, Queens, Knights, Bishops, Rooks playing stupid... you do not need millions of bullets. 1000 bullets would be enough. Yeah, but you cannot touch the kings, queens, etc. without confronting the pawns first. For the record, I am against armed revolution. I don't think it will work and if it does we will have proven nothing about our evolutionary capability. Violence only begets more violence and as long as we use it as a means to an end it will inevitably become our end. Dude or dudette it's the UN that want our gun gone... So it goes a little deeper down the rabbit whole. They been trying to do this since the 1960's. They know somethings going to happen and they don't want you with a gun so you don't go crazy and kill your neighbor for his food and so on and so on. This will come to pass. It would not take a huge amount of guns to tear this place up they know that. The big question is is America the next Africa? With all of the East wanting a piece.. That is the question... Carbide |
Iconoclastics (OP) User ID: 30895273 United States 01/27/2013 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks, buddy! "The person who is in love with their vision of community will destroy community. But the person who loves the people around them will create community everywhere they go." ~ Dietrich Bonhoeffer "Doubt is not a pleasant condition but certainty is absurd" ~ Voltaire "The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion." ~ Thomas Paine On Twitter @Iconoclastics |
TastyThoughts User ID: 1308649 United States 01/27/2013 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We all know the Federal Government has us ridiculously outgunned. Apaches, Drones, Satellites, Missiles, Tanks, Nukes, etc. Quoting: Iconoclastics So why are they so concerned about getting the guns? It's not what you think. They aren't worried about private weapons and munitions posing a challenge to Federal power. They are well aware of their capabilities. They are, however, worried about the pawns who will presumably carry out all this nonsense against us, i.e. traitorous and/or ignorant law enforcement, military, and private security (like Blackwater). If these assholes KNOW they aren't going to get any resistance, like gun fights threatening their safety, they will be much more confident and fierce in their execution of the police state. It's simple, if the pawns meet too much resistance they may lose faith in the plan and give up. The PTB know that what they are planning is already so fucked up that a lot of would-be pawns won't even go for it (think Oathkeepers). The ones that do go for it however are obviously going to be selfish as fuck, so the safer the PTB can make it for them to carry this plan out the more likely they are to be successful. Think of it this way... how many people would be willing to pick up a rattlesnake? Not many. How many people would be willing to pick up a de-fanged rattlesnake? Just about everyone. Make sense? and those pawns are DHS! guess why they buy out so much ammo! It's not just DHS. It is anyone who is in a law enforcement capacity. Local, state, and national. They will lose a lot of recruits once their plans are fully revealed. That's why they have to be sure to secure the support of those who stay on board, by making it as SAFE and SECURE as possible for them. Movies: Training Day The Departed Buffalo Soldiers We Own The Night Bad Lieutenant and so-on, and so-on. All programs. All programming. Just do a search: Police Corruption Movies "They cannot see what's-up if They are looking down." (TastyThoughts) "Something is smelly! Something is smelly, like an old barnacle encrusted shoe washing ashore in the middle of summer." (TastyThoughts) "Yes happy Earth day. Now go tell the wicked to stop damaging the Human Species therefore/and the Earth; For, they are discombobulating the entire Universe and upsetting the Most High God." (TastyThoughts) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32477660 United States 01/27/2013 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We all know the Federal Government has us ridiculously outgunned. Apaches, Drones, Satellites, Missiles, Tanks, Nukes, etc. Quoting: Iconoclastics So why are they so concerned about getting the guns? It's not what you think. They aren't worried about private weapons and munitions posing a challenge to Federal power. They are well aware of their capabilities. They are, however, worried about the pawns who will presumably carry out all this nonsense against us, i.e. traitorous and/or ignorant law enforcement, military, and private security (like Blackwater). If these assholes KNOW they aren't going to get any resistance, like gun fights threatening their safety, they will be much more confident and fierce in their execution of the police state. It's simple, if the pawns meet too much resistance they may lose faith in the plan and give up. The PTB know that what they are planning is already so fucked up that a lot of would-be pawns won't even go for it (think Oathkeepers). The ones that do go for it however are obviously going to be selfish as fuck, so the safer the PTB can make it for them to carry this plan out the more likely they are to be successful. Think of it this way... how many people would be willing to pick up a rattlesnake? Not many. How many people would be willing to pick up a de-fanged rattlesnake? Just about everyone. Make sense? and those pawns are DHS! guess why they buy out so much ammo! The pawns are dispensable too aren't they? |
Iconoclastics (OP) User ID: 30895273 United States 01/27/2013 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't know HOW 'ROE' got this discussion OP, but where does that leave WADE ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31897366 Rules Of Engagement, smart guy. "The person who is in love with their vision of community will destroy community. But the person who loves the people around them will create community everywhere they go." ~ Dietrich Bonhoeffer "Doubt is not a pleasant condition but certainty is absurd" ~ Voltaire "The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion." ~ Thomas Paine On Twitter @Iconoclastics |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32954812 United States 01/27/2013 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dont 4get, we have insiders who are family or friends of outsiders, we can get inside armeries and homeland buildings to get whats needed....there will be thousands of cells operating like alquada(which they still can beat) and real americans willing to die for constitutional freedoms with suicide attacks......it will be ugly for sure but they know they have alot to worry about and they are counting on someone other than themself to do the dirty work with that other being more powerful than them and likely to turn on them .....at some point ya make too many enemies or simply call the wrong order then boom.....instant karma..... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18097125 United States 01/27/2013 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We all know the Federal Government has us ridiculously outgunned. Apaches, Drones, Satellites, Missiles, Tanks, Nukes, etc. Quoting: Iconoclastics So why are they so concerned about getting the guns? It's not what you think. They aren't worried about private weapons and munitions posing a challenge to Federal power. They are well aware of their own capabilities. They are, however, worried about the pawns who will presumably carry out all this nonsense against us, i.e. traitorous and/or ignorant law enforcement, military, and private security (like Blackwater). If these assholes KNOW they aren't going to get any resistance, like gun fights threatening their safety, they will be much more confident and fierce in their execution of the police state. It's simple, if the pawns meet too much resistance they may lose faith in the plan and give up. The PTB know that what they are planning is already so fucked up that a lot of would-be pawns won't even go for it (think Oathkeepers). The ones that do go for it however are obviously going to be selfish as fuck, so the safer the PTB can make it for them to carry this plan out the more likely they are to be successful. Think of it this way... how many people would be willing to pick up a rattlesnake? Not many. How many people would be willing to pick up a de-fanged rattlesnake? Just about everyone. Make sense? There is a reason the Gadsden Flag has a rattle snake. Don't tread on us. A rattle snake can be messed with only for so long before striking. Scary that we have gone so far down the rabbit hole. |
s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 01/27/2013 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not really. Yes they have all those t5hings and they can't stop a few Islamic militants, in Iraq, Afghanistan or any where else they have tried to use them. The "snake" keeps growing new Fangs and Heads! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33164436 American's would be a lot more intelligent and resourceful compared to those militants. Thus a much greater threat. Guns create the feeling of having Independence, and of being able to have Freedom, or at least the hope of such things. Take them away and you demoralize any resistance to the Police State. This program has worked well for many Dictators and Police states. That's because of ROE. If we wanted to we could wipe all those fuckers out tomorrow. Has it ever occurred to people that the people who wanted these wars had no intention of a decisive victory? Keeping it long and drawn out = $$$. It's just like Vietnam. The ROE for Vietnam were ridiculous. They basically guaranteed a stalemate. If and when the hammer does come down stateside I don't think they will be so concerned with ROE. This time it won't be about the $$$ but the power. Ah, no the government that goes to the knife and knife to the hilt in a counter insurgency, especially in its own country, absolutely guarantees its own defeat. 4 and 5 GW isn't even close to who has the biggest army and the most hi tech whatever. I think you give gubmint to much credit. They want the defensive weapons because they are planning on murdering people who disagree with them. Last Edited by s. d. butler on 01/27/2013 09:44 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14971515 Canada 01/27/2013 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jokes on them. God will destroy all weapons and ammunition. in the world. in every country.. Perhaps they are doing Gods work and not even realizing it. We will be fighting for our freedom not with guns and missiles. Most likely with spears and swords. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28689320 United States 01/27/2013 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They have stole the very land we call America right out from under it's people by creating a system where YOU willing give up your rights. With the internet, knowledge is traveling at such a speed that they are losing control of the propaganda war. They are being found out. Disarming is their best recourse along with controlling what weapons remain. Military and Police are Americans with family and roots. These people may be convinced to fire upon Americans under the bogyman guise - but when it starts escalating to women and children - even those in uniform will sour ... They are afraid of mass dissent. They are not the Govt., they are a corporation - when everyone discovers that they are being Governed by a Corporation tied to many other Corporations and that the members of the board are not Americans - People will revolt. All it is going to take is their way of life becoming no longer comfortable. The phony Dept will do just that. Either foreigners will move in to the land as payment, or it will crash. Either way taking the guns is the best way to placate the people. Just ponder this - Think of all the Debt, all of it. How in the hell could there be that much money to loan? Where is it? ahh .. there never was and it doesn't exist. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19004483 United States 01/27/2013 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looking at the wrong targets. Quoting: NightWisp In a chess game, it is not the pawns you seek. Of the kings, Queens, Knights, Bishops, Rooks playing stupid... you do not need millions of bullets. 1000 bullets would be enough. Yeah, but you cannot touch the kings, queens, etc. without confronting the pawns first. For the record, I am against armed revolution. I don't think it will work and if it does we will have proven nothing about our evolutionary capability. Violence only begets more violence and as long as we use it as a means to an end it will inevitably become our end. maybe for a beginner. knights are very powerful. knights and bishops make the best aggressors. by the middle game, pawns are just material on the board, as structural defense, and mostly inactive. |
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s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 01/27/2013 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looking at the wrong targets. Quoting: NightWisp In a chess game, it is not the pawns you seek. Of the kings, Queens, Knights, Bishops, Rooks playing stupid... you do not need millions of bullets. 1000 bullets would be enough. Yeah, but you cannot touch the kings, queens, etc. without confronting the pawns first. For the record, I am against armed revolution. I don't think it will work and if it does we will have proven nothing about our evolutionary capability. Violence only begets more violence and as long as we use it as a means to an end it will inevitably become our end. maybe for a beginner. knights are very powerful. knights and bishops make the best aggressors. by the middle game, pawns are just material on the board, as structural defense, and mostly inactive. OP probably isn't aware of the praetorians. Obviously he thinks in terms of nation state vs nation state. This a different ball game. Last Edited by s. d. butler on 01/27/2013 09:49 PM |
Iconoclastics (OP) User ID: 30895273 United States 01/27/2013 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looking at the wrong targets. Quoting: NightWisp In a chess game, it is not the pawns you seek. Of the kings, Queens, Knights, Bishops, Rooks playing stupid... you do not need millions of bullets. 1000 bullets would be enough. Yeah, but you cannot touch the kings, queens, etc. without confronting the pawns first. For the record, I am against armed revolution. I don't think it will work and if it does we will have proven nothing about our evolutionary capability. Violence only begets more violence and as long as we use it as a means to an end it will inevitably become our end. maybe for a beginner. knights are very powerful. knights and bishops make the best aggressors. by the middle game, pawns are just material on the board, as structural defense, and mostly inactive. No way, good chess players know how to USE the pawns. On the contrary it is beginners who see pawns as just "material on the board" "The person who is in love with their vision of community will destroy community. But the person who loves the people around them will create community everywhere they go." ~ Dietrich Bonhoeffer "Doubt is not a pleasant condition but certainty is absurd" ~ Voltaire "The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion." ~ Thomas Paine On Twitter @Iconoclastics |