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BUSTED! THE SHROUD OF TURIN HOAX . THOSE WHO PORTRAY THIS IMAGE ARE AS GUILTY OF THE LIE

 
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you too!...for they will be offended for his sake
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Those who lead people astray receive 10 times the punishment of those who follow a deceiver. Are you really willing to place your racist opinion before the truth of the ancient manuscripts? Really? That's no better than what Islam does.

If so...just more proof you are on the wrong path and leading others down that same wrong path.
 Quoting: Chip


Hey Chip

Since your so versed what does the Bible say about those led astray? Do you get a free pass if the path you walk on is the wide path? Did not God and Jesus make it our OWN personal responsibility to seek, and find the Truth? Again, I will not lower myself to anger, but I shall pray for you. You are my brother after all.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Jesus himself said that "It is the will of the father that ALL are saved.".

What's to stop me from talking his word at face value?

I'm telling you...if you actually did any research you'd die in shame for standing up for the OP. I'm not just trolling him...his fangs are showing through his sheep costume...seriously.
 Quoting: Chip



You didn't answer the question. You redirected to OP. what does the Bible say about those led astray? Whose responsibility is it?
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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Being catholic has nothing to do with your heart..I have friends who are catholic and they do their best to uphold the truth and not conduct themselves like you have shown.I teach the bible and all I put out is in your bible so for you to jump onboard with that idiot as a team o derail Gods word saya alot about you.

Well you removed the veil and still can't see then you need to see an eye specialist you may have glaucoma
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


And not believing exactly as u do does not make me a better or worse person. God does indeed know my heart and to this day He has not abandoned me. As a matter of fact WE have grown closer over the last 6 months or so.

We are called to spread the good news, NOT turn people away from it as most of your threads do. Like Chip said, you are leading people astray. I truly believe it is u who needs to be prayed for.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


I am not asking you to beleive in me, but I gave the word of God and like your father the devil you acccused me.
I did not ask you to read the thread,maybe you need to examine why you were tempted here.Was it to learn or just to be a tool of satan.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


I only have ONE FATHER and that is the creator of ALL. Satan has nothing to do with any of that. Be careful friend you are bearing false witness against your neighbor.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Well take your accusations elsewhere! you have no new articles on Obama? So you came to find one who you think look like him
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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And not believing exactly as u do does not make me a better or worse person. God does indeed know my heart and to this day He has not abandoned me. As a matter of fact WE have grown closer over the last 6 months or so.

We are called to spread the good news, NOT turn people away from it as most of your threads do. Like Chip said, you are leading people astray. I truly believe it is u who needs to be prayed for.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


I am not asking you to beleive in me, but I gave the word of God and like your father the devil you acccused me.
I did not ask you to read the thread,maybe you need to examine why you were tempted here.Was it to learn or just to be a tool of satan.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


I only have ONE FATHER and that is the creator of ALL. Satan has nothing to do with any of that. Be careful friend you are bearing false witness against your neighbor.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Well take your accusations elsewhere! you have no new articles on Obama? So you came to find one who you think look like him
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


And there it is. You just spoke volumes with that little comment. Basically just proved what Chip and I have been saying.

Ephesians 5:11
Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.

You've been exposed friend.
So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16
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Those who lead people astray receive 10 times the punishment of those who follow a deceiver. Are you really willing to place your racist opinion before the truth of the ancient manuscripts? Really? That's no better than what Islam does.

If so...just more proof you are on the wrong path and leading others down that same wrong path.
 Quoting: Chip


Hey Chip

Since your so versed what does the Bible say about those led astray? Do you get a free pass if the path you walk on is the wide path? Did not God and Jesus make it our OWN personal responsibility to seek, and find the Truth? Again, I will not lower myself to anger, but I shall pray for you. You are my brother after all.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Jesus himself said that "It is the will of the father that ALL are saved.".

What's to stop me from talking his word at face value?

I'm telling you...if you actually did any research you'd die in shame for standing up for the OP. I'm not just trolling him...his fangs are showing through his sheep costume...seriously.
 Quoting: Chip



You didn't answer the question. You redirected to OP. what does the Bible say about those led astray? Whose responsibility is it?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Ephesians 5:11

Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.
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I am not asking you to beleive in me, but I gave the word of God and like your father the devil you acccused me.
I did not ask you to read the thread,maybe you need to examine why you were tempted here.Was it to learn or just to be a tool of satan.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


I only have ONE FATHER and that is the creator of ALL. Satan has nothing to do with any of that. Be careful friend you are bearing false witness against your neighbor.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Well take your accusations elsewhere! you have no new articles on Obama? So you came to find one who you think look like him
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


And there it is. You just spoke volumes with that little comment. Basically just proved what Chip and I have been saying.

Ephesians 5:11
Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.

You've been exposed friend.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


You ever get angry TxGAl? You ever let your emotions get the best of you?
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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I am not asking you to beleive in me, but I gave the word of God and like your father the devil you acccused me.
I did not ask you to read the thread,maybe you need to examine why you were tempted here.Was it to learn or just to be a tool of satan.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


I only have ONE FATHER and that is the creator of ALL. Satan has nothing to do with any of that. Be careful friend you are bearing false witness against your neighbor.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Well take your accusations elsewhere! you have no new articles on Obama? So you came to find one who you think look like him
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


And there it is. You just spoke volumes with that little comment. Basically just proved what Chip and I have been saying.

Ephesians 5:11
Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.

You've been exposed friend.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


this is what you do..go check your threads I am dealing with you dtop trying to get support by including another.

You ACCUSE all the time nothing edifying but gossip and tattle tales and you came here with that same spirit.

I did not invite you yet you came, You have to get a bigger team to come at me amd with truth
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Hey Chip

Since your so versed what does the Bible say about those led astray? Do you get a free pass if the path you walk on is the wide path? Did not God and Jesus make it our OWN personal responsibility to seek, and find the Truth? Again, I will not lower myself to anger, but I shall pray for you. You are my brother after all.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Jesus himself said that "It is the will of the father that ALL are saved.".

What's to stop me from talking his word at face value?

I'm telling you...if you actually did any research you'd die in shame for standing up for the OP. I'm not just trolling him...his fangs are showing through his sheep costume...seriously.
 Quoting: Chip



You didn't answer the question. You redirected to OP. what does the Bible say about those led astray? Whose responsibility is it?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Ephesians 5:11

Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.
 Quoting: Chip


Again Chip you failed to answer my question. Instead you throw out Scripture. What does God and Jesus tell us about the wide path? Is it the responsibility of the Shepard or the sheep? Tell me child where might your wisdom be? Since, you say his interpretation what are your interpretations of the things I have brought before you?

Do you want a lesson tonight? Or you going to throw out more Scriptures?

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But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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I only have ONE FATHER and that is the creator of ALL. Satan has nothing to do with any of that. Be careful friend you are bearing false witness against your neighbor.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Well take your accusations elsewhere! you have no new articles on Obama? So you came to find one who you think look like him
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


And there it is. You just spoke volumes with that little comment. Basically just proved what Chip and I have been saying.

Ephesians 5:11
Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.

You've been exposed friend.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


You ever get angry TxGAl? You ever let your emotions get the best of you?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Absolutely and I think I know where you're going with this. HOWEVER, leading people astray by cherry picking is a big no no. The OP is well known for this. DISCERNMENT friend.
So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16
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Hey Chip

Since your so versed what does the Bible say about those led astray? Do you get a free pass if the path you walk on is the wide path? Did not God and Jesus make it our OWN personal responsibility to seek, and find the Truth? Again, I will not lower myself to anger, but I shall pray for you. You are my brother after all.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Jesus himself said that "It is the will of the father that ALL are saved.".

What's to stop me from talking his word at face value?

I'm telling you...if you actually did any research you'd die in shame for standing up for the OP. I'm not just trolling him...his fangs are showing through his sheep costume...seriously.
 Quoting: Chip



You didn't answer the question. You redirected to OP. what does the Bible say about those led astray? Whose responsibility is it?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Ephesians 5:11

Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.
 Quoting: Chip

Thus sayeth the Lord and one true God Eh'yeh asher Eh'Yeh

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ISAIAH 53:2
He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.

ISAIAH CHAPTER 50:6
6 I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting.



ISAIAH CHAPTER 52:14
14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage{FACE} was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men:

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Has any DNA analysis been done?

Surely it would have Jesus DNA in it?
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Jesus himself said that "It is the will of the father that ALL are saved.".

What's to stop me from talking his word at face value?

I'm telling you...if you actually did any research you'd die in shame for standing up for the OP. I'm not just trolling him...his fangs are showing through his sheep costume...seriously.
 Quoting: Chip



You didn't answer the question. You redirected to OP. what does the Bible say about those led astray? Whose responsibility is it?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Ephesians 5:11

Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.
 Quoting: Chip


Again Chip you failed to answer my question. Instead you throw out Scripture. What does God and Jesus tell us about the wide path? Is it the responsibility of the Shepard or the sheep?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


First off I think it was pretty cool that TX and I posted the same scripture. rockon

It is your responsibility...but obviously you know not what you do.
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Hey Chip

Since your so versed what does the Bible say about those led astray? Do you get a free pass if the path you walk on is the wide path? Did not God and Jesus make it our OWN personal responsibility to seek, and find the Truth? Again, I will not lower myself to anger, but I shall pray for you. You are my brother after all.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Jesus himself said that "It is the will of the father that ALL are saved.".

What's to stop me from talking his word at face value?

I'm telling you...if you actually did any research you'd die in shame for standing up for the OP. I'm not just trolling him...his fangs are showing through his sheep costume...seriously.
 Quoting: Chip



You didn't answer the question. You redirected to OP. what does the Bible say about those led astray? Whose responsibility is it?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Ephesians 5:11

Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.
 Quoting: Chip


Sorry chippie boy


3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back.

4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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You didn't answer the question. You redirected to OP. what does the Bible say about those led astray? Whose responsibility is it?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Ephesians 5:11

Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.
 Quoting: Chip


Again Chip you failed to answer my question. Instead you throw out Scripture. What does God and Jesus tell us about the wide path? Is it the responsibility of the Shepard or the sheep?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


First off I think it was pretty cool that TX and I posted the same scripture. rockon

It is your responsibility...but obviously you know not what you do.
 Quoting: Chip


Yeah that's cool but the bible again reveals you.."secret counsel"


Hide me from the secret counsel of the wicked; from the insurrection of the workers of iniquity:
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Jesus himself said that "It is the will of the father that ALL are saved.".

What's to stop me from talking his word at face value?

I'm telling you...if you actually did any research you'd die in shame for standing up for the OP. I'm not just trolling him...his fangs are showing through his sheep costume...seriously.
 Quoting: Chip



You didn't answer the question. You redirected to OP. what does the Bible say about those led astray? Whose responsibility is it?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Ephesians 5:11

Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.
 Quoting: Chip


Sorry chippie boy


3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back.

4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


This shit is way off topic. The bottom line is you don't know if it's the Lord on that cloth. Your only point is that if the guy on the Shroud is not black...he's not Jesus.

To which I contend, you are flatly and completely incorrect.
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You didn't answer the question. You redirected to OP. what does the Bible say about those led astray? Whose responsibility is it?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Ephesians 5:11

Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.
 Quoting: Chip


Sorry chippie boy


3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back.

4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


This shit is way off topic. The bottom line is you don't know if it's the Lord on that cloth. Your only point is that if the guy on the Shroud is not black...he's not Jesus.

To which I contend, you are flatly and completely incorrect.
 Quoting: Chip


No you can't you have to believe the word.

Thus sayeth the Lord and one true God Eh'yeh asher Eh'Yeh are calling GOd a liar? when he put it in the word

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ISAIAH 53:2
He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.

ISAIAH CHAPTER 50:6
6 I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting.

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ISAIAH CHAPTER 52:14
14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage{FACE} was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men:

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Origin:
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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You didn't answer the question. You redirected to OP. what does the Bible say about those led astray? Whose responsibility is it?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Ephesians 5:11

Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.
 Quoting: Chip


Sorry chippie boy


3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back.

4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


This shit is way off topic. The bottom line is you don't know if it's the Lord on that cloth. Your only point is that if the guy on the Shroud is not black...he's not Jesus.

To which I contend, you are flatly and completely incorrect.
 Quoting: Chip


Exactly! OP is also a racist. Anyone who has been here long enough knows this. It's always black this, black that. His comment to me about Obama said it all.

By the way OP this is most likely what Yeshua looked like.
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You didn't answer the question. You redirected to OP. what does the Bible say about those led astray? Whose responsibility is it?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Ephesians 5:11

Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.
 Quoting: Chip


Sorry chippie boy


3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back.

4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


This shit is way off topic. The bottom line is you don't know if it's the Lord on that cloth. Your only point is that if the guy on the Shroud is not black...he's not Jesus.

To which I contend, you are flatly and completely incorrect.
 Quoting: Chip


So look at this is this and I am not even mad.IS THIS RIGHT?

4. The Shroud depicts a longhaired man. This cannot be Jesus of Nazareth – He had short hair! It is a shame for a man to have long hair, and Jesus would not have done any thing to shame His Father in heaven (I Cor 11:14). Images of Caesar or other rulers of the time show that short hair was the custom of the time, not the womanly look of Haight-Asbury hippies. The Shroud reflects the Catholic myth of an effeminate, longhaired man perpetuated by their art, which has no basis in fact and was condemned by the Second Commandment (Ex 20:4).

TEMPT1

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Ephesians 5:11

Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.
 Quoting: Chip


Sorry chippie boy


3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back.

4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


This shit is way off topic. The bottom line is you don't know if it's the Lord on that cloth. Your only point is that if the guy on the Shroud is not black...he's not Jesus.

To which I contend, you are flatly and completely incorrect.
 Quoting: Chip


So look at this is this and I am not even mad.IS THIS RIGHT?

4. The Shroud depicts a longhaired man. This cannot be Jesus of Nazareth – He had short hair! It is a shame for a man to have long hair, and Jesus would not have done any thing to shame His Father in heaven (I Cor 11:14). Images of Caesar or other rulers of the time show that short hair was the custom of the time, not the womanly look of Haight-Asbury hippies. The Shroud reflects the Catholic myth of an effeminate, longhaired man perpetuated by their art, which has no basis in fact and was condemned by the Second Commandment (Ex 20:4).

TEMPT1
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


A lame post deserves a lame reply....So Jesus was a rebel with long hair.

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Ephesians 5:11

Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.
 Quoting: Chip


Sorry chippie boy


3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back.

4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


This shit is way off topic. The bottom line is you don't know if it's the Lord on that cloth. Your only point is that if the guy on the Shroud is not black...he's not Jesus.

To which I contend, you are flatly and completely incorrect.
 Quoting: Chip


Exactly! OP is also a racist. Anyone who has been here long enough knows this. It's always black this, black that. His comment to me about Obama said it all.

By the way OP this is most likely what Yeshua looked like.
yeshsh
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


I will rather go with the word of God that the heathen tradition.Thats your belief and thats fine.But the word is true




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ISAIAH 53:2
He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.

ISAIAH CHAPTER 50:6
6 I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting.



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14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage{FACE} was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men:

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2. aspect; appearance.
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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You didn't answer the question. You redirected to OP. what does the Bible say about those led astray? Whose responsibility is it?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Ephesians 5:11

Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.
 Quoting: Chip


Sorry chippie boy


3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back.

4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


This shit is way off topic. The bottom line is you don't know if it's the Lord on that cloth. Your only point is that if the guy on the Shroud is not black...he's not Jesus.

To which I contend, you are flatly and completely incorrect.
 Quoting: Chip


Your words Chip remind me of my dad, and all his Bigotry. And yes I know my direction, and I have seen what has mislead me. Again, I will pray for you. I will ask you this, since you brought race into the equation, WHAT IF A WHITE PERSON BROUGHT TO YOU THESE FACTS?

Would your throat hurt less?
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Thus sayeth the Lord and one true God Eh'yeh asher Eh'Yeh

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ISAIAH 53:2
He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.

ISAIAH CHAPTER 50:6
6 I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting.



ISAIAH CHAPTER 52:14
14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage{FACE} was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men:

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1. the face, usually with reference to shape, features, expression, etc.; countenance.
2. aspect; appearance.
Origin:
1250–1300; Middle English < Anglo-French, Old French, equivalent to vis face
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Ephesians 5:11

Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.
 Quoting: Chip


Sorry chippie boy


3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back.

4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


This shit is way off topic. The bottom line is you don't know if it's the Lord on that cloth. Your only point is that if the guy on the Shroud is not black...he's not Jesus.

To which I contend, you are flatly and completely incorrect.
 Quoting: Chip


So look at this is this and I am not even mad.IS THIS RIGHT?

4. The Shroud depicts a longhaired man. This cannot be Jesus of Nazareth – He had short hair! It is a shame for a man to have long hair, and Jesus would not have done any thing to shame His Father in heaven (I Cor 11:14). Images of Caesar or other rulers of the time show that short hair was the custom of the time, not the womanly look of Haight-Asbury hippies. The Shroud reflects the Catholic myth of an effeminate, longhaired man perpetuated by their art, which has no basis in fact and was condemned by the Second Commandment (Ex 20:4).

TEMPT1
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Leviticus 19:27

"'Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard.
So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16
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Well take your accusations elsewhere! you have no new articles on Obama? So you came to find one who you think look like him
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


And there it is. You just spoke volumes with that little comment. Basically just proved what Chip and I have been saying.

Ephesians 5:11
Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.

You've been exposed friend.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


You ever get angry TxGAl? You ever let your emotions get the best of you?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Absolutely and I think I know where you're going with this. HOWEVER, leading people astray by cherry picking is a big no no. The OP is well known for this. DISCERNMENT friend.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


I am trying to spport you here but you are one dumbass broad..The guy is on point and you and your asshat partner are looking so stupid
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Ephesians 5:11

Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.
 Quoting: Chip


Sorry chippie boy


3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back.

4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


This shit is way off topic. The bottom line is you don't know if it's the Lord on that cloth. Your only point is that if the guy on the Shroud is not black...he's not Jesus.

To which I contend, you are flatly and completely incorrect.
 Quoting: Chip


Exactly! OP is also a racist. Anyone who has been here long enough knows this. It's always black this, black that. His comment to me about Obama said it all.

By the way OP this is most likely what Yeshua looked like.
yeshsh
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


And as a conservative middle class white American your words have just revealed your nature. 'Black this, black that." Look at yourself child. And this is why he, Yeshua, will say to you that he doesn't even know you. Get ahold of yourself, and put your color down and realize now that it wasthe CHURCH that created the color DOCTRINE. THEY KNEW WESTERN EUROPEANS WOULD FEEL SUPERIOR AND CAPITULATE TO AN IMAGE OF CHRIST THAT WAS WHITE.

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Sorry chippie boy


3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back.

4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


This shit is way off topic. The bottom line is you don't know if it's the Lord on that cloth. Your only point is that if the guy on the Shroud is not black...he's not Jesus.

To which I contend, you are flatly and completely incorrect.
 Quoting: Chip


So look at this is this and I am not even mad.IS THIS RIGHT?

4. The Shroud depicts a longhaired man. This cannot be Jesus of Nazareth – He had short hair! It is a shame for a man to have long hair, and Jesus would not have done any thing to shame His Father in heaven (I Cor 11:14). Images of Caesar or other rulers of the time show that short hair was the custom of the time, not the womanly look of Haight-Asbury hippies. The Shroud reflects the Catholic myth of an effeminate, longhaired man perpetuated by their art, which has no basis in fact and was condemned by the Second Commandment (Ex 20:4).

:TEMPT1:
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Leviticus 19:27

"'Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


texgal get off the fekking thread you are an embarassment
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You spoke by the Holy Spirit through the mouth of your servant, our father David: "'Why do the nations rage and the peoples plot in vain?
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Sorry chippie boy


3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back.

4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


This shit is way off topic. The bottom line is you don't know if it's the Lord on that cloth. Your only point is that if the guy on the Shroud is not black...he's not Jesus.

To which I contend, you are flatly and completely incorrect.
 Quoting: Chip


Exactly! OP is also a racist. Anyone who has been here long enough knows this. It's always black this, black that. His comment to me about Obama said it all.

By the way OP this is most likely what Yeshua looked like.
yeshsh
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


And as a conservative middle class white American your words have just revealed your nature. 'Black this, black that." Look at yourself child.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Thing is, I'm not white and I'm actually a registered democrat. It's the OP who actually criticizes the white devil. Which according to him would be YOU.

Last Edited by TXGal4Truth on 02/04/2013 08:16 PM
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Thus sayeth the Lord and one true God Eh'yeh asher Eh'Yeh

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ISAIAH 53:2
He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.

ISAIAH CHAPTER 50:6
6 I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting.



ISAIAH CHAPTER 52:14
14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage{FACE} was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men:

PROOF
vis·age/&#712;v&#618;z&#618;d&#658;/ Show Spelled [viz-ij] Show IPA
noun
1. the face, usually with reference to shape, features, expression, etc.; countenance.
2. aspect; appearance.
Origin:
1250–1300; Middle English < Anglo-French, Old French, equivalent to vis face
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


I know your heart.. It reveals itself like an open letter.

Whats the point? In arguing? What does color have to do with it? He was a man, withouth attractive appearance, making Him not so goodlooking i would say.

God doesnt make difference, does it really matter if He were less black then black? Couldnt he be tanish? Or white?
He could be all the colors, and i still wouldnt give a rats ass, As long as He IS what He is.. and thats truth, and just, and a worthy King. Now, go do other business, then this rubbish, wether someone believes the shroud is His or Him, whatever, it doesnt convict anyone..

Your heart my friend, go search it, your texting here reveals something from you.. And so is others in this thread for that matter.
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Ephesians 5:11

Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.
 Quoting: Chip


Sorry chippie boy


3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back.

4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


This shit is way off topic. The bottom line is you don't know if it's the Lord on that cloth. Your only point is that if the guy on the Shroud is not black...he's not Jesus.

To which I contend, you are flatly and completely incorrect.
 Quoting: Chip


Exactly! OP is also a racist. Anyone who has been here long enough knows this. It's always black this, black that. His comment to me about Obama said it all.

By the way OP this is most likely what Yeshua looked like.
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Crikey!!!!

It's Cesare Borgia
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This shit is way off topic. The bottom line is you don't know if it's the Lord on that cloth. Your only point is that if the guy on the Shroud is not black...he's not Jesus.

To which I contend, you are flatly and completely incorrect.
 Quoting: Chip


Exactly! OP is also a racist. Anyone who has been here long enough knows this. It's always black this, black that. His comment to me about Obama said it all.

By the way OP this is most likely what Yeshua looked like.
yeshsh
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


And as a conservative middle class white American your words have just revealed your nature. 'Black this, black that." Look at yourself child.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Thing is, I'm not white and I'm actually a registered democrat.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Don't think I ever said you were white, nor conservative. Read again my words. And as a meaning me.

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