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BUSTED! THE SHROUD OF TURIN HOAX . THOSE WHO PORTRAY THIS IMAGE ARE AS GUILTY OF THE LIE | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33702765  United States02/04/2013 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Shroud of Turin is not a hoax. Science has yet to explain how the image was formed. The Radiocarbon 14 tests were contaminated. See Ray Rogers and Thermochimica Acta Volume 425, Issues 1-2, 20 January 2005, Pages 189-194 ( [link to www.shroud.it] |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 33598346 United States02/04/2013 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Catholics are honest Jews and Protestants are confused Catholics. The other religions are not even worth mentioning. Quoting: LunaHominem The Shroud of Turin is not a hoax. Science has yet to explain how the image was formed. The Radiocarbon 14 tests were contaminated. See Ray Rogers and Thermochimica Acta Volume 425, Issues 1-2, 20 January 2005, Pages 189-194 ( [link to www.shroud.it] Thus sayeth the Lord and one true God Eh'yeh asher Eh'Yeh  ISAIAH 53:2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. ISAIAH CHAPTER 50:6 6 I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting. ISAIAH CHAPTER 52:14 14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage{FACE} was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men: PROOF vis·age/ˈvɪzɪdʒ/ Show Spelled [viz-ij] Show IPA noun 1. the face, usually with reference to shape, features, expression, etc.; countenance. 2. aspect; appearance. Origin: 1250–1300; Middle English < Anglo-French, Old French, equivalent to vis face 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 33598346 United States02/04/2013 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar Sorry chippie boy 3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back. 4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. 5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit. This shit is way off topic. The bottom line is you don't know if it's the Lord on that cloth. Your only point is that if the guy on the Shroud is not black...he's not Jesus. To which I contend, you are flatly and completely incorrect. Your words Chip remind me of my dad, and all his Bigotry. And yes I know my direction, and I have seen what has mislead me. Again, I will pray for you. I will ask you this, since you brought race into the equation, WHAT IF A WHITE PERSON BROUGHT TO YOU THESE FACTS? Would your throat hurt less? I would shut him down just as fast, in fact I have. Jesus was Adamic...the Adamic race is not black. Look it up. lets stick with the facts chippie boy! Thus sayeth the Lord and one true God Eh'yeh asher Eh'Yeh ISAIAH 53:2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. ISAIAH CHAPTER 50:6 6 I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting. ISAIAH CHAPTER 52:14 14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage{FACE} was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men: PROOF vis·age/ˈvɪzɪdʒ/ Show Spelled [viz-ij] Show IPA noun 1. the face, usually with reference to shape, features, expression, etc.; countenance. 2. aspect; appearance. Origin: 1250–1300; Middle English < Anglo-French, Old French, equivalent to vis face 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| KoFFee_ User ID: 1373078 United States02/04/2013 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is so much written about the Shroud of Turin. It does make for a fascinating study. You have to admit, Neim, that you do not know all that there is to know about this piece of cloth. Since it's first appearance in Europe in the 1350s, the Shroud has been condemned by many as a fraud. But scientific analysis by a team of experts has shown that the markings on the cloth do conform to the accounts given of Christ's death and burial as recorded in the New Testament. It requires much more insight and study then what you have put forth. Even the point you mention about the length of Jesus Christ's hair is highly controversial. You could have a healthy discussion about that. Ask what others believe, and ask for scriptural evidence. Regarding the Shroud, it's always interesting to see what continued research reveals. Art historian Thomas de Wesselow - an agnostic, originally a skeptic about the Shroud - has recently published a new book in which he concludes it's genuine. Intriguing. However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24 "This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42 Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him; and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen. I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7 |
| ParadigmShift User ID: 31231991 United States02/04/2013 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Catholics are honest Jews and Protestants are confused Catholics. The other religions are not even worth mentioning. Quoting: LunaHominem The Shroud of Turin is not a hoax. Science has yet to explain how the image was formed. The Radiocarbon 14 tests were contaminated. See Ray Rogers and Thermochimica Acta Volume 425, Issues 1-2, 20 January 2005, Pages 189-194 ( [link to www.shroud.it] The image is wrong and the story is wrong. He was not wrapped as the Catholics proclaim. Do we all not understand where science comes from? Please read Enoch, words left out. It's not about science, it is about something more in which we will never understand. The image is wrong, the way in which Turin and the church suggest is wrong. |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 33598346 United States02/04/2013 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar Sorry chippie boy 3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back. 4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. 5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit. This shit is way off topic. The bottom line is you don't know if it's the Lord on that cloth. Your only point is that if the guy on the Shroud is not black...he's not Jesus. To which I contend, you are flatly and completely incorrect. Your words Chip remind me of my dad, and all his Bigotry. And yes I know my direction, and I have seen what has mislead me. Again, I will pray for you. I will ask you this, since you brought race into the equation, WHAT IF A WHITE PERSON BROUGHT TO YOU THESE FACTS? Would your throat hurt less? I would shut him down just as fast, in fact I have. Jesus was Adamic...the Adamic race is not black. Look it up. 12 Therefore let us lie in wait for the righteous; because he is not for our turn, and he is clean contrary to our doings: he upbraideth us with our offending the law, and objecteth to our infamy the transgressings of our education. 13 He professeth to have the knowledge of God: and he calleth himself the child of the Lord. 14 He was made to reprove our thoughts. 15 He is grievous unto us even to behold: for his life is not like other men's, his ways are of another fashion. 16 We are esteemed of him as counterfeits: he abstaineth from our ways as from filthiness: he pronounceth the end of the just to be blessed, and maketh his boast that God is his father. 17 Let us see if his words be true: and let us prove what shall happen in the end of him. 18 For if the just man be the son of God, he will help him, and deliver him from the hand of his enemies. 19 Let us examine him with despitefulness and torture, that we may know his meekness, and prove his patience. Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 02/04/2013 09:20 PM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| ParadigmShift User ID: 31231991 United States02/04/2013 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is so much written about the Shroud of Turin. It does make for a fascinating study. Quoting: KoFFee_ You have to admit, Neim, that you do not know all that there is to know about this piece of cloth. Since it's first appearance in Europe in the 1350s, the Shroud has been condemned by many as a fraud. But scientific analysis by a team of experts has shown that the markings on the cloth do conform to the accounts given of Christ's death and burial as recorded in the New Testament. It requires much more insight and study then what you have put forth. Even the point you mention about the length of Jesus Christ's hair is highly controversial. You could have a healthy discussion about that. Ask what others believe, and ask for scriptural evidence. Regarding the Shroud, it's always interesting to see what continued research reveals. Art historian Thomas de Wesselow - an agnostic, originally a skeptic about the Shroud - has recently published a new book in which he concludes it's genuine. Intriguing. Science is not of the Kingdom, read Enoch and pray. |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 33598346 United States02/04/2013 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is so much written about the Shroud of Turin. It does make for a fascinating study. Quoting: KoFFee_ You have to admit, Neim, that you do not know all that there is to know about this piece of cloth. Since it's first appearance in Europe in the 1350s, the Shroud has been condemned by many as a fraud. But scientific analysis by a team of experts has shown that the markings on the cloth do conform to the accounts given of Christ's death and burial as recorded in the New Testament. It requires much more insight and study then what you have put forth. Even the point you mention about the length of Jesus Christ's hair is highly controversial. You could have a healthy discussion about that. Ask what others believe, and ask for scriptural evidence. Regarding the Shroud, it's always interesting to see what continued research reveals. Art historian Thomas de Wesselow - an agnostic, originally a skeptic about the Shroud - has recently published a new book in which he concludes it's genuine. Intriguing. Thus sayeth the Lord and one true God Eh'yeh asher Eh'Yeh ISAIAH 53:2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. ISAIAH CHAPTER 50:6 6 I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting. ISAIAH CHAPTER 52:14 14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage{FACE} was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men: PROOF vis·age/ˈvɪzɪdʒ/ Show Spelled [viz-ij] Show IPA noun 1. the face, usually with reference to shape, features, expression, etc.; countenance. 2. aspect; appearance. Origin: 1250–1300; Middle English < Anglo-French, Old French, equivalent to vis face 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33702765 United States02/04/2013 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Catholics are honest Jews and Protestants are confused Catholics. The other religions are not even worth mentioning. Quoting: LunaHominem The Shroud of Turin is not a hoax. Science has yet to explain how the image was formed. The Radiocarbon 14 tests were contaminated. See Ray Rogers and Thermochimica Acta Volume 425, Issues 1-2, 20 January 2005, Pages 189-194 ( [link to www.shroud.it] The image is wrong and the story is wrong. He was not wrapped as the Catholics proclaim. Do we all not understand where science comes from? Please read Enoch, words left out. It's not about science, it is about something more in which we will never understand. The image is wrong, the way in which Turin and the church suggest is wrong. So, what's your point? |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 33598346 United States02/04/2013 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is so much written about the Shroud of Turin. It does make for a fascinating study. Quoting: KoFFee_ You have to admit, Neim, that you do not know all that there is to know about this piece of cloth. Since it's first appearance in Europe in the 1350s, the Shroud has been condemned by many as a fraud. But scientific analysis by a team of experts has shown that the markings on the cloth do conform to the accounts given of Christ's death and burial as recorded in the New Testament. It requires much more insight and study then what you have put forth. Even the point you mention about the length of Jesus Christ's hair is highly controversial. You could have a healthy discussion about that. Ask what others believe, and ask for scriptural evidence. Regarding the Shroud, it's always interesting to see what continued research reveals. Art historian Thomas de Wesselow - an agnostic, originally a skeptic about the Shroud - has recently published a new book in which he concludes it's genuine. Intriguing. Science is not of the Kingdom, read Enoch and pray. They will not listen to you all you have to do is present the scriptures.The people you see coming on now are all friends with no scriptures just articles and youtube videos 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 33598346 United States02/04/2013 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are still mad about this althought the word say different to the lies by their scientists Thread: MUST READ ! THE ARK OF THE COVENANT THE TRUE STORY FROM YOUR HOLY BOOKS AND SCROLLS Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 02/04/2013 09:30 PM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 33598346 United States02/04/2013 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Catholics are honest Jews and Protestants are confused Catholics. The other religions are not even worth mentioning. Quoting: LunaHominem The Shroud of Turin is not a hoax. Science has yet to explain how the image was formed. The Radiocarbon 14 tests were contaminated. See Ray Rogers and Thermochimica Acta Volume 425, Issues 1-2, 20 January 2005, Pages 189-194 ( [link to www.shroud.it] The image is wrong and the story is wrong. He was not wrapped as the Catholics proclaim. Do we all not understand where science comes from? Please read Enoch, words left out. It's not about science, it is about something more in which we will never understand. The image is wrong, the way in which Turin and the church suggest is wrong. So, what's your point? Taking Jesus' body, the two of them wrapped it, with the spices, in strips of linen. This was in accordance with Jewish burial customs. 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| ParadigmShift User ID: 31231991 United States02/04/2013 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Catholics are honest Jews and Protestants are confused Catholics. The other religions are not even worth mentioning. Quoting: LunaHominem The Shroud of Turin is not a hoax. Science has yet to explain how the image was formed. The Radiocarbon 14 tests were contaminated. See Ray Rogers and Thermochimica Acta Volume 425, Issues 1-2, 20 January 2005, Pages 189-194 ( [link to www.shroud.it] The image is wrong and the story is wrong. He was not wrapped as the Catholics proclaim. Do we all not understand where science comes from? Please read Enoch, words left out. It's not about science, it is about something more in which we will never understand. The image is wrong, the way in which Turin and the church suggest is wrong. So, what's your point? Read Enoch and pray. Read about the giants, read about the fountains of wisdom. Science is not of the Father, and was only fulfilled on the tree of Knowledge. It is deceitful as was the serpent. No man shall inherit or learn the ways of the Kingdom, just as no man shall interpret Eternal law. You shall see child of God. That being the point you are but dust and clay to the works of my father, and it will be science to the dust that you shall fall. |
| ParadigmShift User ID: 31231991 United States02/04/2013 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And when you read Enoch might you see what the fallen angels brought to God's children. Might you understand that it was not God's will that man learn the things of Heaven. Might you understand that we were brought from Devine, but it wasn't until those angels came unto us that the corrupted our seed, because their knowledge took away our faith and our innocence, their ways have taught us everything that is evil and bad, and it was their ways that makes our World bad. My father brings forth only good things, and can your eyes not see that everything that disputes Him, is not of Him. Forget your petty doctrines, forget being spoon fed, and trust that you have been LIED too since His son has departed. Repent the Kingdom is nearing. |
| ParadigmShift User ID: 31231991 United States02/04/2013 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is so much written about the Shroud of Turin. It does make for a fascinating study. Quoting: KoFFee_ You have to admit, Neim, that you do not know all that there is to know about this piece of cloth. Since it's first appearance in Europe in the 1350s, the Shroud has been condemned by many as a fraud. But scientific analysis by a team of experts has shown that the markings on the cloth do conform to the accounts given of Christ's death and burial as recorded in the New Testament. It requires much more insight and study then what you have put forth. Even the point you mention about the length of Jesus Christ's hair is highly controversial. You could have a healthy discussion about that. Ask what others believe, and ask for scriptural evidence. Regarding the Shroud, it's always interesting to see what continued research reveals. Art historian Thomas de Wesselow - an agnostic, originally a skeptic about the Shroud - has recently published a new book in which he concludes it's genuine. Intriguing. Read Enoch Koffee Science is not of the ways of the Kingdom. Science disputes God, science is Satan just another one of his works. Learn more about the tree of knowledge and pray. Don't ever bring science into the equation of the Creator.  |
| ParadigmShift User ID: 31231991 United States02/04/2013 09:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Catholics are honest Jews and Protestants are confused Catholics. The other religions are not even worth mentioning. Quoting: LunaHominem The Shroud of Turin is not a hoax. Science has yet to explain how the image was formed. The Radiocarbon 14 tests were contaminated. See Ray Rogers and Thermochimica Acta Volume 425, Issues 1-2, 20 January 2005, Pages 189-194 ( [link to www.shroud.it] The image is wrong and the story is wrong. He was not wrapped as the Catholics proclaim. Do we all not understand where science comes from? Please read Enoch, words left out. It's not about science, it is about something more in which we will never understand. The image is wrong, the way in which Turin and the church suggest is wrong. So, what's your point? Taking Jesus' body, the two of them wrapped it, with the spices, in strips of linen. This was in accordance with Jewish burial customs.  Wisdom is gained and not granted |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33707747  Australia02/04/2013 09:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is so much written about the Shroud of Turin. It does make for a fascinating study. Quoting: KoFFee_ You have to admit, Neim, that you do not know all that there is to know about this piece of cloth. Since it's first appearance in Europe in the 1350s, the Shroud has been condemned by many as a fraud. But scientific analysis by a team of experts has shown that the markings on the cloth do conform to the accounts given of Christ's death and burial as recorded in the New Testament. It requires much more insight and study then what you have put forth. Even the point you mention about the length of Jesus Christ's hair is highly controversial. You could have a healthy discussion about that. Ask what others believe, and ask for scriptural evidence. Regarding the Shroud, it's always interesting to see what continued research reveals. Art historian Thomas de Wesselow - an agnostic, originally a skeptic about the Shroud - has recently published a new book in which he concludes it's genuine. Intriguing. Science is not of the Kingdom, read Enoch and pray. What?!? Let me guess, you actually believe science is opposed to God?? Are you deluded?? God created science!! |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 33598346 United States02/04/2013 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is so much written about the Shroud of Turin. It does make for a fascinating study. Quoting: KoFFee_ You have to admit, Neim, that you do not know all that there is to know about this piece of cloth. Since it's first appearance in Europe in the 1350s, the Shroud has been condemned by many as a fraud. But scientific analysis by a team of experts has shown that the markings on the cloth do conform to the accounts given of Christ's death and burial as recorded in the New Testament. It requires much more insight and study then what you have put forth. Even the point you mention about the length of Jesus Christ's hair is highly controversial. You could have a healthy discussion about that. Ask what others believe, and ask for scriptural evidence. Regarding the Shroud, it's always interesting to see what continued research reveals. Art historian Thomas de Wesselow - an agnostic, originally a skeptic about the Shroud - has recently published a new book in which he concludes it's genuine. Intriguing. Science is not of the Kingdom, read Enoch and pray. What?!? Let me guess, you actually believe science is opposed to God?? Are you deluded?? God created science!! yes that is known but you have scientists who alter truth to bring glory to themselves and deny God taking glory unto himself 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 33598346 United States02/04/2013 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is so much written about the Shroud of Turin. It does make for a fascinating study. Quoting: KoFFee_ You have to admit, Neim, that you do not know all that there is to know about this piece of cloth. Since it's first appearance in Europe in the 1350s, the Shroud has been condemned by many as a fraud. But scientific analysis by a team of experts has shown that the markings on the cloth do conform to the accounts given of Christ's death and burial as recorded in the New Testament. It requires much more insight and study then what you have put forth. Even the point you mention about the length of Jesus Christ's hair is highly controversial. You could have a healthy discussion about that. Ask what others believe, and ask for scriptural evidence. Regarding the Shroud, it's always interesting to see what continued research reveals. Art historian Thomas de Wesselow - an agnostic, originally a skeptic about the Shroud - has recently published a new book in which he concludes it's genuine. Intriguing. Read Enoch Koffee Science is not of the ways of the Kingdom. Science disputes God, science is Satan just another one of his works. Learn more about the tree of knowledge and pray. Don't ever bring science into the equation of the Creator. 8 But that which is made with hands is cursed, as well it, as he that made it: he, because he made it; and it, because, being corruptible, it was called god. Ecclisiatius wisdom of solomon 9 For the ungodly and his ungodliness are both alike hateful unto God. 10 For that which is made shall be punished together with him that made it. 11 Therefore even upon the idols of the Gentiles shall there be a visitation: because in the creature of God they are become an abomination, and stumblingblocks to the souls of men, and a snare to the feet of the unwise. 12 For the devising of idols was the beginning of spiritual fornication, and the invention of them the corruption of life. 13 For neither were they from the beginning, neither shall they be for ever. 14 For by the vain glory of men they entered into the world, and therefore shall they come shortly to an end. 15 For a father afflicted with untimely mourning, when he hath made an image of his child soon taken away, now honoured him as a god, which was then a dead man, and delivered to those that were under him ceremonies and sacrifices. 16 Thus in process of time an ungodly custom grown strong was kept as a law, and graven images were worshipped by the commandments of kings. 17 Whom men could not honour in presence, because they dwelt far off, they took the counterfeit of his visage from far, and made an express image of a king whom they honoured, to the end that by this their forwardness they might flatter him that was absent, as if he were present. 18 Also the singular diligence of the artificer did help to set forward the ignorant to more superstition. 19 For he, peradventure willing to please one in authority, forced all his skill to make the resemblance of the best fashion. Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 02/05/2013 12:24 AM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| ParadigmShift User ID: 31231991 United States02/04/2013 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is so much written about the Shroud of Turin. It does make for a fascinating study. Quoting: KoFFee_ You have to admit, Neim, that you do not know all that there is to know about this piece of cloth. Since it's first appearance in Europe in the 1350s, the Shroud has been condemned by many as a fraud. But scientific analysis by a team of experts has shown that the markings on the cloth do conform to the accounts given of Christ's death and burial as recorded in the New Testament. It requires much more insight and study then what you have put forth. Even the point you mention about the length of Jesus Christ's hair is highly controversial. You could have a healthy discussion about that. Ask what others believe, and ask for scriptural evidence. Regarding the Shroud, it's always interesting to see what continued research reveals. Art historian Thomas de Wesselow - an agnostic, originally a skeptic about the Shroud - has recently published a new book in which he concludes it's genuine. Intriguing. Science is not of the Kingdom, read Enoch and pray. What?!? Let me guess, you actually believe science is opposed to God?? Are you deluded?? God created science!! There is so much written about the Shroud of Turin. It does make for a fascinating study. Quoting: KoFFee_ You have to admit, Neim, that you do not know all that there is to know about this piece of cloth. Since it's first appearance in Europe in the 1350s, the Shroud has been condemned by many as a fraud. But scientific analysis by a team of experts has shown that the markings on the cloth do conform to the accounts given of Christ's death and burial as recorded in the New Testament. It requires much more insight and study then what you have put forth. Even the point you mention about the length of Jesus Christ's hair is highly controversial. You could have a healthy discussion about that. Ask what others believe, and ask for scriptural evidence. Regarding the Shroud, it's always interesting to see what continued research reveals. Art historian Thomas de Wesselow - an agnostic, originally a skeptic about the Shroud - has recently published a new book in which he concludes it's genuine. Intriguing. Science is not of the Kingdom, read Enoch and pray. What?!? Let me guess, you actually believe science is opposed to God?? Are you deluded?? God created science!! No your wrong the fallen angels brought science to the early children. Science along with other works took our faith. Read child and might you find the Wisdom I have found. God is everything and to say God created science, that is a partial truth. God created all things in this universe, but science falls upon the Tree of Knowledge which was not suppose to be shared with men. Why because God knew men and their flesh, and how they would go against God with their science. The fallen angels brought the workings of Heaven unto men. Study up child, the time nears you walk on the wide road and upon snares you shall fall. Have faith in God and all his works. |
| ParadigmShift User ID: 31231991 United States02/04/2013 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is so much written about the Shroud of Turin. It does make for a fascinating study. Quoting: KoFFee_ You have to admit, Neim, that you do not know all that there is to know about this piece of cloth. Since it's first appearance in Europe in the 1350s, the Shroud has been condemned by many as a fraud. But scientific analysis by a team of experts has shown that the markings on the cloth do conform to the accounts given of Christ's death and burial as recorded in the New Testament. It requires much more insight and study then what you have put forth. Even the point you mention about the length of Jesus Christ's hair is highly controversial. You could have a healthy discussion about that. Ask what others believe, and ask for scriptural evidence. Regarding the Shroud, it's always interesting to see what continued research reveals. Art historian Thomas de Wesselow - an agnostic, originally a skeptic about the Shroud - has recently published a new book in which he concludes it's genuine. Intriguing. Science is not of the Kingdom, read Enoch and pray. What?!? Let me guess, you actually believe science is opposed to God?? Are you deluded?? God created science!! Please bring more of your falsehoods to me. My hour of teaching has not come, but the works of my father I am always glad to share. Step cautiously child for many pits have been laid on the path. Humble yourself, and do not ever say what my father created, for your understanding is not of the Kingdom. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29546692  Bahamas02/04/2013 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Boy Neim don't stop what you are doing. God is truly blessing you and you have opened many eyes on glp that have never been opened before. Satan is working overtime to derail you and prevent the truth from getting out. Satan and his angels know the scriptures as well but they use it to stir people away from the truth. They will come on your thread and try their best to derail you from the true message. Don't stop and keep exposing those false Gentiles that call themselves Israel!  |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 33598346 United States02/04/2013 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Chip Ephesians 5:11 Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. Sorry chippie boy 3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back. 4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. 5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit. This shit is way off topic. The bottom line is you don't know if it's the Lord on that cloth. Your only point is that if the guy on the Shroud is not black...he's not Jesus. To which I contend, you are flatly and completely incorrect. Exactly! OP is also a racist. Anyone who has been here long enough knows this. It's always black this, black that. His comment to me about Obama said it all. By the way OP this is most likely what Yeshua looked like.  Now let us expose these people who claim they read their bible.. the shroud of tUrin is a 14ft by 3ft piece of linen as we know and above Miss texasZ showed the image in her pic Let us look at what the bible says! again the BIBLE JOHN CHAPTER 20 So they ran both together: and the other disciple did outrun Peter, and came first to the sepulchre. 5 And he stooping down, and looking in, saw the linen clothes lying; yet went he not in. 6 Then cometh Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie, 7 And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself. 8 Then went in also that other disciple, which came first to the sepulchre, and he saw, and believed. NAPKIN: STRONGS CONCORDANCE 1) a handkerchief 2) a cloth for wiping perspiration from the face and for cleaning the nose and also used in swathing the head of a corpse Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 02/05/2013 12:41 AM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 33598346 United States02/04/2013 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Boy Neim don't stop what you are doing. God is truly blessing you and you have opened many eyes on glp that have never been opened before. Satan is working overtime to derail you and prevent the truth from getting out. Satan and his angels know the scriptures as well but they use it to stir people away from the truth. They will come on your thread and try their best to derail you from the true message. Don't stop and keep exposing those false Gentiles that call themselves Israel! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29546692 I know that that is why I read and pray and study to be approved .THEY DON'T EVER COME ALONE. THEY COME IN PAIRS OR OR GROUPS OF THREES. One individual as soon as she saw her buddies jumped right in but she ended up watching from the sidelines. 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29546692 Bahamas02/04/2013 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar Sorry chippie boy 3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back. 4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. 5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit. This shit is way off topic. The bottom line is you don't know if it's the Lord on that cloth. Your only point is that if the guy on the Shroud is not black...he's not Jesus. To which I contend, you are flatly and completely incorrect. Exactly! OP is also a racist. Anyone who has been here long enough knows this. It's always black this, black that. His comment to me about Obama said it all. By the way OP this is most likely what Yeshua looked like. :yeshsh: Now let us expose these people who claim they read their bible.. the shroud of tUrin is a 14ft by 3ft piece of linen as we know and above Miss texasZ showed the image in her pic Let us look at what the bible says! again the BIBLE JOHN CHAPTER 20 So they ran both together: and the other disciple did outrun Peter, and came first to the sepulchre. 5 And he stooping down, and looking in, saw the linen clothes lying; yet went he not in. 6 Then cometh Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie, 7 And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself. 8 Then went in also that other disciple, which came first to the sepulchre, and he saw, and believed. NAPKIN: STRONGS CONCORDANCE 1) a handkerchief 2) a cloth for wiping perspiration from the face and for cleaning the nose and also used in swathing the head of a corpse LOLLLLLED OWNED!!!!!!! boy Neim you don't play! Check mate!  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29546692 Bahamas02/04/2013 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Boy Neim don't stop what you are doing. God is truly blessing you and you have opened many eyes on glp that have never been opened before. Satan is working overtime to derail you and prevent the truth from getting out. Satan and his angels know the scriptures as well but they use it to stir people away from the truth. They will come on your thread and try their best to derail you from the true message. Don't stop and keep exposing those false Gentiles that call themselves Israel! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29546692 I know that that is why I read and pray and study to be approved .THEY DON'T EVER COME ALONE. THEY COME IN PAIRS OR OR GROUPS OF THREES. One individual as soon as she saw her buddies jumped right in but she ended up watching from the sidelines. Who Jah bless no man can curse! And you got plenty blessings. You come with facts that's why I like reading your threads. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20541213 United States02/04/2013 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Neim, The Remnant is Roman Catholic. You gotta have a change of heart.  Jesus wants us all to believe the same and remember His promise to Peter, Satan will not overcome My Church. (Matt 16:18) He can make that kind of prediction, He knows the beginning and the end. The most recent Italian study of the Shroud show, science cannot yet create the amount of UV rays that made the markings on the Shroud. Imagine the moment, I love Our Lord? Amen prayers for your conversion/reversion, |
