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Obama to Meet with Sheriffs and Police Chiefs to Talk Gun Control (UPDATED)

 
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Here's the problem

There are 1500 newspapers, 1100 magazines, 9000 radio stations, 1500 TV stations, 2400 publishers...ALL OWNED BY ONLY 3 CORPORATIONS

There's just no way to get the TRUTH out to the masses.
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Re: Obama to Meet with Sheriffs and Police Chiefs to Talk Gun Control (UPDATED)
Here's what I see happening.

This whole gun grab is "for the children's protection"...right?

I believe they will come down with a declaration that if you have a gun in your home AND you have children, that it's a danger to your children.

Therefore they will "request" that people with children turn in their guns "for the safety of the children".

If those people refuse...then the CPS will be called and their children will be taken away from them because of the "danger" caused by the gun in the home.

So it will basically be "your gun or your kids".

That will be the start.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33165537


That's a low blow.

However, it doesn't seem to be the most rational thing to do on their part.

If they are trying to minimize gunowner threat, then they would not want to single out family men and women (who have more to lose and are thus less likely to act against the government) and leave people without kids (who have less to lose by acting against the government) with their guns.

I don't know. The levels of paranoia run deep and in all directions. It's hard to keep up with a government as corrupt as ours...
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Make a list of all the names, including reporters, and "experts". Turnabout is always fair play.
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Let's check who has invested in Firearms Laser Marking Machines? The sheriffs will all probably be handed one to bring back to their states.
A gift from the WH.
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Here's the problem

There are 1500 newspapers, 1100 magazines, 9000 radio stations, 1500 TV stations, 2400 publishers...ALL OWNED BY ONLY 3 CORPORATIONS

There's just no way to get the TRUTH out to the masses.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33165537


EXACTLY!

I can see the headlines now...

"Local law enforcement associations support Obama gun control measures"

in other news...

"Rogue Kentucky sheriff, turned warlord, targeted by drone attack"
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Re: Obama to Meet with Sheriffs and Police Chiefs to Talk Gun Control (UPDATED)
FROM CNN:

President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden will meet with police chiefs and sheriffs from major cities about gun violence on Monday, a White House official said.

The president is holding the private event one day before launching his push for immigration reform, demonstrating the administration’s plan to press multiple policy goals simultaneously.


After weeks of meetings with various stakeholders in the gun control debate, Obama and Biden announced multiple legislative proposals aimed at curbing gun violence and 23 executive actions on guns and related mental health issues the president can take without congressional approval.


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[link to politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com]

From The Washington Post:

President Barack Obama will meet with police chiefs from three communities that have experienced mass shootings, part of his administration’s push to address gun violence.

Obama is drawing attention to the worst shootings of 2012, inviting the police chiefs from: Aurora, Colo., where 12 were killed in July; Oak Creek, Wis., where six died in a Sikh temple assault: and Newtown, Conn., scene of the most recent mass tragedy that left 20 first-graders dead.

A White House official says representatives from the Major Cities Chiefs Association and the Major County Sheriffs Association will also participate in Monday’s White House meeting.


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[link to m.washingtonpost.com]

From the Star Tribune:

A White House official says representatives from the Major Cities Chiefs Association and the Major County Sheriffs Association will also participate in Monday's White House meeting.

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[link to m.startribune.com]

From USA Today:

President Obama will seek to build support for his gun control plan Monday by meeting with local law enforcement officials -- including those from three cities that have seen mass killings over the past year.

The chiefs of Newtown, Conn., Aurora, Colo., and Oak Creek, Wisc., will meet with Obama and Vice President Biden at the White House, according to an addition to the White House schedule.


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[link to m.usatoday.com]

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"The Major Counties Sheriffs Association"

(from their website)

The Major County Sheriffs' Association (MCSA) is a professional law enforcement association of elected sheriffs representing counties or parishes with 500,000 population or more. We are dedicated to preserving the highest integrity in law enforcement and the elected Office of the Sheriff. Our membership represents over 100 million Americans.

MCSA works to promote a greater understanding of law enforcement strategies to address futures problems and identify law enforcement challenges facing the members of our organization. We are committed to advancing legislative issues that will enhance the safety of our communities.

MCSA also aggressively pursues the development of innovative education along with prevention and enforcement strategies and programs.


Here's a link to their site:

[link to www.mcsheriffs.com]

And here's a link to the page listing their member counties:

[link to www.mcsheriffs.com]

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"The Major Cities Chiefs Association"

(from their website)

MCC was formed in the late 1960s to provide a forum for executives to share ideas, experiences and strategies for addressing the challenges of policing large urban communities. While the forum remains a primary purpose, as MCC has grown its purpose has expanded to include:
To influence national public policy on law enforcement matters
To enhance the development of current and future leaders
To encourage and sponsor research

MCC's U.S. members are very active in advisory roles to the Department of Justice, the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Defense, and are frequently invited to testify before Congress.


Here is a link to their site:

[link to www.majorcitieschiefs.com (secure)]

And here is a link to the page that lists their member cities:

[link to www.majorcitieschiefs.com (secure)]
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


Give it up Mr. President. You are not getting the guns. No reasonable, well adjusted American with a family is going to allow you to babysit the people anymore. You are not going to get the guns. Mind your business, and focus on national security and infrastructure. Put some people to work and help out the economy. Better yet, resign to the reality of your incompetence.
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Here's the problem

There are 1500 newspapers, 1100 magazines, 9000 radio stations, 1500 TV stations, 2400 publishers...ALL OWNED BY ONLY 3 CORPORATIONS

There's just no way to get the TRUTH out to the masses.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33165537


EXACTLY!

I can see the headlines now...

"Local law enforcement associations support Obama gun control measures"

in other news...

"Rogue Kentucky sheriff, turned warlord, targeted by drone attack"
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


YOu got it! There's no way to get the TRUTH out to the rank and file American.

No matter what they see, hear or read...it will all be spun in favor of gun control.
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Here's the problem

There are 1500 newspapers, 1100 magazines, 9000 radio stations, 1500 TV stations, 2400 publishers...ALL OWNED BY ONLY 3 CORPORATIONS

There's just no way to get the TRUTH out to the masses.
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Proof or it didn't happen.
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Here's the problem

There are 1500 newspapers, 1100 magazines, 9000 radio stations, 1500 TV stations, 2400 publishers...ALL OWNED BY ONLY 3 CORPORATIONS

There's just no way to get the TRUTH out to the masses.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33165537


Proof or it didn't happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33194353


I think he was using hyperbole.
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....Obumer should meet w/ the U.S. Marshall's as well....This way they can arrest him on site....!ura
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Here's the problem

There are 1500 newspapers, 1100 magazines, 9000 radio stations, 1500 TV stations, 2400 publishers...ALL OWNED BY ONLY 3 CORPORATIONS

There's just no way to get the TRUTH out to the masses.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33165537


EXACTLY!

I can see the headlines now...

"Local law enforcement associations support Obama gun control measures"

in other news...

"Rogue Kentucky sheriff, turned warlord, targeted by drone attack"
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


^this
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obum=traitor.
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This is just another step in the war on us as a governed people.

Did you think the PTB would roll over just because a couple dozen sheriffs from jerk-water USA wagged their fingers at them?
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This has all been planned! Why do you think that the Feds have been so intent on militarising local law enforcements? They have been playing both sides of the equation as they always do!
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"Do as we wish or we'll cut your funding. Say goodbye to all those nice toys..."
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


You can't get a better scenario, the people's money being withheld from them..."we'll stop your "FUNDING" if you don't go along "... all the while the sheep baa. If the people keep their monies and fund themselves why would one need an overpowering gubermnt to dictate your day?
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I'm not too sure they are going to do too much gun control. They certainly will meet resistance in the congress, especially the house. I think you will see a reduction in magazine size, and maybe restrictions on gun production. It will be tough to go after already purchased guns. Local cops won't want the hazard, thus the reason many sherriffs are saying no. so what then Armed troops? Then it takes one bullet fired to start a war between the government and the population.

I think the end goal is the mental health angle. It pops up everywhere. More then likely they will start with attaching medical records to background checks. We will probably have to have mental health screenings to purchase a gun, and possible periodic evaluations to purchase a gun. Of course who is left to decide the mental health of a person? Certainly a panel of doctors or something. At any rate, they don't have to ban the guns, just ban the crazies, well at least those deemed crazy, from owning them. Long term, they can use these mental health screenings to send those undesirables away to FEMA Camps.

In short, they will use the term "Mental health" to restrict ownership to those who tow the line as far as the government concerned. The "mentally ill" will be much like the jews of Nazi Germany.
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i wonder if they will address this issue??????
Thread: Take away our guns...but the police do not have to protect us as has been proven in case after case in the courts

it seems the court and many police forces do not think their officers need to actually protect us the citizens.
so PROTECT and SERVE does not mean protect US the ones ....well, they should be protecting!
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This meeting is only about one thing and one thing only. This is damage control pure and simple. Sheriffs all over the country are openly standing up to tell Obama a loud and clear "NO" when it comes to unconstitutional gun rights infringement edicts and that is making the news. Obama is only bringing in the faithful for a photo op to fool the sheep and the useful idiots.
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Re: Obama to Meet with Sheriffs and Police Chiefs to Talk Gun Control (UPDATED)
We all know how this is going to go down, right?

Obama has a nice chat with "supportive" sheriffs. Lots of photos and press. A PR stunt.

The media will give the American people the impression that sheriffs SUPPORT gun control and that the "few" who don't are "rogues".

Next thing you know, the 2nd Amendment-supporting sheriffs are made out to be "warlords" and "terrorists".

FUCK THAT!
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that is 100% EXACTLY what it's about.
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Here's the problem

There are 1500 newspapers, 1100 magazines, 9000 radio stations, 1500 TV stations, 2400 publishers...ALL OWNED BY ONLY 3 CORPORATIONS

There's just no way to get the TRUTH out to the masses.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33165537


Proof or it didn't happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33194353


I think he was using hyperbole.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


I don't think so. No exaggeration...they started in the '80's, peeling freedom, the true voice of America, peeling away like peeling an onion, one layer at a time. Now few control everything.

Let them have it, God and you make a majority!
Stand before the Lord, repent, He is your Creator,
your Provider, your Caretaker, stand and watch
God's Perfect Plan come to fruition.

Thank You Father.
Thank you Jesus.
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obozo will try using his " Martial law " threat or cutting federal funding to the sheriffs department to try and get his way.


Obozo the great oppressor / illegal mmigrant.

The sheriffs just tell obozo to piss off and shove his gun control BS up his ass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6235972


He is trying to create a situation in which he can justify Marital Law, does no one see this?? Once that is done, then they can shut down food shipments, possibly shut down power grids and let things fall apart all of its own accord. By the time everything is over, people will be beggin Obama to take their guns and turn the power and food back on and they will be good little boys and girls.

This has nothing to do with saving lives and everything to do with controlling lives.
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Looks like a few hand picked leo's who won't ask any real questions. Another carefully crafted show for idiots....
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Here's the problem

There are 1500 newspapers, 1100 magazines, 9000 radio stations, 1500 TV stations, 2400 publishers...ALL OWNED BY ONLY 3 CORPORATIONS

There's just no way to get the TRUTH out to the masses.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33165537


The internet is doing a damn fine job thus far.

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My post was deleted!
My post had every bit of relevance to this thread!

Censorship! ! !

Fuckin' commie!
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whatcha wanna bet, that the ones that tell him to shove it, start having accidents and start dying all of a sudden.
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He's playing with fire. The Sheriffs are on our side, and theyre ready for war if need be.
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Yeah--but WHICH sheriffs will he be meeting with???

Trust me, they're not ALL on our side.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


Major cities, let's guess
San Francisco
Chicago
NYC
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Chicago has been officially declared " A Toilet ". The credit rating for the state of Illinois has been downgraded. Further, firearm ownership in Chicago is heavily restricted and the murder rate is skyrocketing, in fact it has increased 60% in the last threee (3) months. So it makes no sense whatsoever to go to Chicago to talk about gun regulations.

I wonder how Rahm Emanuel likes being "King Shit of Turd Island".

To substantiate these statements, here are links:

[link to articles.chicagotribune.com]

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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My post was deleted!
My post had every bit of relevance to this thread!

Censorship! ! !

Fuckin' commie!
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Hey--sorry. It was an accident.
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listen, they are gonna push this through no matter what.
The real question people have to ask themselves is whether or not they will comply.

I won't comply.
 Quoting: Dr.Ricks


They may push it through. But will the people push back?

Remember that "extremists" who don't comply may be dealt with like "terrorists" and "warlords".

My prediction (for what it's worth):

The media will stop using words like "militia" and "2nd Amendment supporter" and start using terms like "warlords" and "extremists". It's already happening to some degree.

This meeting with police chiefs and sheriffs is an attempt to marginalize and demonize local law enforcement agencies that are reluctant to comply.
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you are probably right.
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And so it begins,...






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this should be televised
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this should be televised
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Actually, this whole event was supposed to be secret (allegedly) and was leaked by a white house staffer "on the condition on anonymity", according to the article at foxnews.com
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