Obama to Meet with Sheriffs and Police Chiefs to Talk Gun Control (UPDATED) | |
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simultaneous_final (OP) User ID: 31759745 United States 01/28/2013 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's what I see happening. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33165537 This whole gun grab is "for the children's protection"...right? I believe they will come down with a declaration that if you have a gun in your home AND you have children, that it's a danger to your children. Therefore they will "request" that people with children turn in their guns "for the safety of the children". If those people refuse...then the CPS will be called and their children will be taken away from them because of the "danger" caused by the gun in the home. So it will basically be "your gun or your kids". That will be the start. That's a low blow. However, it doesn't seem to be the most rational thing to do on their part. If they are trying to minimize gunowner threat, then they would not want to single out family men and women (who have more to lose and are thus less likely to act against the government) and leave people without kids (who have less to lose by acting against the government) with their guns. I don't know. The levels of paranoia run deep and in all directions. It's hard to keep up with a government as corrupt as ours... A subject observes itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself ad infinitum. |
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simultaneous_final (OP) User ID: 31759745 United States 01/28/2013 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the problem Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33165537 There are 1500 newspapers, 1100 magazines, 9000 radio stations, 1500 TV stations, 2400 publishers...ALL OWNED BY ONLY 3 CORPORATIONS There's just no way to get the TRUTH out to the masses. EXACTLY! I can see the headlines now... "Local law enforcement associations support Obama gun control measures" in other news... "Rogue Kentucky sheriff, turned warlord, targeted by drone attack" A subject observes itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself ad infinitum. |
Here for the moment User ID: 14554879 United States 01/28/2013 09:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FROM CNN: Quoting: simultaneous_final President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden will meet with police chiefs and sheriffs from major cities about gun violence on Monday, a White House official said. The president is holding the private event one day before launching his push for immigration reform, demonstrating the administration’s plan to press multiple policy goals simultaneously. After weeks of meetings with various stakeholders in the gun control debate, Obama and Biden announced multiple legislative proposals aimed at curbing gun violence and 23 executive actions on guns and related mental health issues the president can take without congressional approval. Read the rest at: [link to politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com] From The Washington Post: President Barack Obama will meet with police chiefs from three communities that have experienced mass shootings, part of his administration’s push to address gun violence. Obama is drawing attention to the worst shootings of 2012, inviting the police chiefs from: Aurora, Colo., where 12 were killed in July; Oak Creek, Wis., where six died in a Sikh temple assault: and Newtown, Conn., scene of the most recent mass tragedy that left 20 first-graders dead. A White House official says representatives from the Major Cities Chiefs Association and the Major County Sheriffs Association will also participate in Monday’s White House meeting. Read the rest at: [link to m.washingtonpost.com] From the Star Tribune: A White House official says representatives from the Major Cities Chiefs Association and the Major County Sheriffs Association will also participate in Monday's White House meeting. Read the rest at: [link to m.startribune.com] From USA Today: President Obama will seek to build support for his gun control plan Monday by meeting with local law enforcement officials -- including those from three cities that have seen mass killings over the past year. The chiefs of Newtown, Conn., Aurora, Colo., and Oak Creek, Wisc., will meet with Obama and Vice President Biden at the White House, according to an addition to the White House schedule. Read the rest at: [link to m.usatoday.com] ********** "The Major Counties Sheriffs Association" (from their website) The Major County Sheriffs' Association (MCSA) is a professional law enforcement association of elected sheriffs representing counties or parishes with 500,000 population or more. We are dedicated to preserving the highest integrity in law enforcement and the elected Office of the Sheriff. Our membership represents over 100 million Americans. MCSA works to promote a greater understanding of law enforcement strategies to address futures problems and identify law enforcement challenges facing the members of our organization. We are committed to advancing legislative issues that will enhance the safety of our communities. MCSA also aggressively pursues the development of innovative education along with prevention and enforcement strategies and programs. Here's a link to their site: [link to www.mcsheriffs.com] And here's a link to the page listing their member counties: [link to www.mcsheriffs.com] ********** "The Major Cities Chiefs Association" (from their website) MCC was formed in the late 1960s to provide a forum for executives to share ideas, experiences and strategies for addressing the challenges of policing large urban communities. While the forum remains a primary purpose, as MCC has grown its purpose has expanded to include: To influence national public policy on law enforcement matters To enhance the development of current and future leaders To encourage and sponsor research MCC's U.S. members are very active in advisory roles to the Department of Justice, the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Defense, and are frequently invited to testify before Congress. Here is a link to their site: [link to www.majorcitieschiefs.com (secure)] And here is a link to the page that lists their member cities: [link to www.majorcitieschiefs.com (secure)] Give it up Mr. President. You are not getting the guns. No reasonable, well adjusted American with a family is going to allow you to babysit the people anymore. You are not going to get the guns. Mind your business, and focus on national security and infrastructure. Put some people to work and help out the economy. Better yet, resign to the reality of your incompetence. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33165537 United States 01/28/2013 09:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the problem Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33165537 There are 1500 newspapers, 1100 magazines, 9000 radio stations, 1500 TV stations, 2400 publishers...ALL OWNED BY ONLY 3 CORPORATIONS There's just no way to get the TRUTH out to the masses. EXACTLY! I can see the headlines now... "Local law enforcement associations support Obama gun control measures" in other news... "Rogue Kentucky sheriff, turned warlord, targeted by drone attack" YOu got it! There's no way to get the TRUTH out to the rank and file American. No matter what they see, hear or read...it will all be spun in favor of gun control. |
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simultaneous_final (OP) User ID: 31759745 United States 01/28/2013 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the problem Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33165537 There are 1500 newspapers, 1100 magazines, 9000 radio stations, 1500 TV stations, 2400 publishers...ALL OWNED BY ONLY 3 CORPORATIONS There's just no way to get the TRUTH out to the masses. Proof or it didn't happen. I think he was using hyperbole. A subject observes itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself ad infinitum. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33197973 United States 01/28/2013 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the problem Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33165537 There are 1500 newspapers, 1100 magazines, 9000 radio stations, 1500 TV stations, 2400 publishers...ALL OWNED BY ONLY 3 CORPORATIONS There's just no way to get the TRUTH out to the masses. EXACTLY! I can see the headlines now... "Local law enforcement associations support Obama gun control measures" in other news... "Rogue Kentucky sheriff, turned warlord, targeted by drone attack" ^this |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1453153 United States 01/28/2013 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This has all been planned! Why do you think that the Feds have been so intent on militarising local law enforcements? They have been playing both sides of the equation as they always do! Quoting: Ozicell "Do as we wish or we'll cut your funding. Say goodbye to all those nice toys..." You can't get a better scenario, the people's money being withheld from them..."we'll stop your "FUNDING" if you don't go along "... all the while the sheep baa. If the people keep their monies and fund themselves why would one need an overpowering gubermnt to dictate your day? |
spoof User ID: 4846968 United States 01/28/2013 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not too sure they are going to do too much gun control. They certainly will meet resistance in the congress, especially the house. I think you will see a reduction in magazine size, and maybe restrictions on gun production. It will be tough to go after already purchased guns. Local cops won't want the hazard, thus the reason many sherriffs are saying no. so what then Armed troops? Then it takes one bullet fired to start a war between the government and the population. I think the end goal is the mental health angle. It pops up everywhere. More then likely they will start with attaching medical records to background checks. We will probably have to have mental health screenings to purchase a gun, and possible periodic evaluations to purchase a gun. Of course who is left to decide the mental health of a person? Certainly a panel of doctors or something. At any rate, they don't have to ban the guns, just ban the crazies, well at least those deemed crazy, from owning them. Long term, they can use these mental health screenings to send those undesirables away to FEMA Camps. In short, they will use the term "Mental health" to restrict ownership to those who tow the line as far as the government concerned. The "mentally ill" will be much like the jews of Nazi Germany. |
psyoptics User ID: 11919225 United States 01/28/2013 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: Take away our guns...but the police do not have to protect us as has been proven in case after case in the courts it seems the court and many police forces do not think their officers need to actually protect us the citizens. so PROTECT and SERVE does not mean protect US the ones ....well, they should be protecting! a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants. |
Resister User ID: 669410 United States 01/28/2013 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This meeting is only about one thing and one thing only. This is damage control pure and simple. Sheriffs all over the country are openly standing up to tell Obama a loud and clear "NO" when it comes to unconstitutional gun rights infringement edicts and that is making the news. Obama is only bringing in the faithful for a photo op to fool the sheep and the useful idiots. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33199504 United States 01/28/2013 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We all know how this is going to go down, right? Quoting: simultaneous_final Obama has a nice chat with "supportive" sheriffs. Lots of photos and press. A PR stunt. The media will give the American people the impression that sheriffs SUPPORT gun control and that the "few" who don't are "rogues". Next thing you know, the 2nd Amendment-supporting sheriffs are made out to be "warlords" and "terrorists". FUCK THAT! that is 100% EXACTLY what it's about. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1453153 United States 01/28/2013 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the problem Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33165537 There are 1500 newspapers, 1100 magazines, 9000 radio stations, 1500 TV stations, 2400 publishers...ALL OWNED BY ONLY 3 CORPORATIONS There's just no way to get the TRUTH out to the masses. Proof or it didn't happen. I think he was using hyperbole. I don't think so. No exaggeration...they started in the '80's, peeling freedom, the true voice of America, peeling away like peeling an onion, one layer at a time. Now few control everything. Let them have it, God and you make a majority! Stand before the Lord, repent, He is your Creator, your Provider, your Caretaker, stand and watch God's Perfect Plan come to fruition. Thank You Father. Thank you Jesus. |
0311INFANTRYSIR User ID: 969484 United States 01/28/2013 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | obozo will try using his " Martial law " threat or cutting federal funding to the sheriffs department to try and get his way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6235972 Obozo the great oppressor / illegal mmigrant. The sheriffs just tell obozo to piss off and shove his gun control BS up his ass. He is trying to create a situation in which he can justify Marital Law, does no one see this?? Once that is done, then they can shut down food shipments, possibly shut down power grids and let things fall apart all of its own accord. By the time everything is over, people will be beggin Obama to take their guns and turn the power and food back on and they will be good little boys and girls. This has nothing to do with saving lives and everything to do with controlling lives. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote" ~ Benjamin Franklin. |
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Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States 01/28/2013 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the problem Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33165537 There are 1500 newspapers, 1100 magazines, 9000 radio stations, 1500 TV stations, 2400 publishers...ALL OWNED BY ONLY 3 CORPORATIONS There's just no way to get the TRUTH out to the masses. The internet is doing a damn fine job thus far. Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 01/28/2013 10:57 AM |
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simultaneous_final (OP) User ID: 31759745 United States 01/28/2013 11:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My post was deleted! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1453153 My post had every bit of relevance to this thread! Censorship! ! ! Fuckin' commie! Hey--sorry. It was an accident. A subject observes itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself ad infinitum. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 402164 United States 01/28/2013 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | listen, they are gonna push this through no matter what. Quoting: Dr.Ricks The real question people have to ask themselves is whether or not they will comply. I won't comply. They may push it through. But will the people push back? Remember that "extremists" who don't comply may be dealt with like "terrorists" and "warlords". My prediction (for what it's worth): The media will stop using words like "militia" and "2nd Amendment supporter" and start using terms like "warlords" and "extremists". It's already happening to some degree. This meeting with police chiefs and sheriffs is an attempt to marginalize and demonize local law enforcement agencies that are reluctant to comply. you are probably right. |
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simultaneous_final (OP) User ID: 31759745 United States 01/28/2013 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, this whole event was supposed to be secret (allegedly) and was leaked by a white house staffer "on the condition on anonymity", according to the article at foxnews.com A subject observes itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself ad infinitum. |
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