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I am a member of the Illuminati: Open Q&A. No mocking or disbelief.

 
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Have you met this Melchizedek and his handler Mephistopheles?
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A Predatory Species of Human Animals Have Created A System That Gives Them Power & Control Over All Others.
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In theory all having food, shelter, medical, etc. sounds good especially for the billions without. I emphatically do not like this business of going along with the plan. I think it would be more of the same. as im sure mr. oil executive that, you wouldnt be happy to have only, the basics. so, in essence there would still be the elite and the peasants. so....bsflag
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So,...

Do you believe we are the only ones in the whole universe or do you know of the different species/aliens out in the universe?

If you do, do you have constant contact with them? Are you in contact with the benevolvent(love emitting energy) beings or with the malevolent (feeds through fear and control types) beings?
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Rare Earth hypothesis is true, in my opinion, and that is a daunting realization which few have the mental will to accept.
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I f you people think Hijacking the education system (look uo the Reese Committee), Creating a central bank that has devalued our currency by 95% since 1913, Off shoring the manufacturing base for profit, Controling the media and entertainment with flicker rates, and subliminal messesges is away to reach enlightenment you are a bunch of fucking retards... I think it more likely that you are a bunch of greedy, power drunk inbreds who have been corrupted absolutley to the point you cannot fathom a world where you are not in control.
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Although we starkly disapprove of Communism, religion in the Soviet Union is an incident with how the effect(s) would be. You need to understand the world will change, susceptible to our direction, and this mindset will have a paradigm shift.
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The Illuminati believe in a system of government known as Meritocracy, where the most brilliant people run the government rather than nepotism & cronyism that prevails now.

It takes the best of leftist & right ideologies & mixes them.

So this guy has just shown he is full of shit
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So, did some members escape from a prison here in the U.S.?

Is your organization looking for them?
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No. Anyone detained would be inside super-maximum security confinement overseas and alone.
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Going back to your recruitment, what happens to someone if they either A) fail to live up to your standards or b) decline the invitation?

Do they just go on with their lives as if nothing ever happened or do you continue to monitor them and, if applicable, continue to recruit them?
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Perhaps my perception is wrong, but with regard to religion..most of your "blue collar" population..the ones that build things..the carpenters, the utility workers, the electricians,etc. most of these people are religious.

The people that hold unfavorable views of religion are the academics, the professors, writers, etc. (and the under 30 generation who have no skills whatsoever, nor do they want any skills).

You need the "blue collar" workers whatever direction the world takes. Many of these people will never willingly give up their religious beliefs. And without them, the infrastructure would likely fall apart.

Am I wrong?? If not, how do you plan to resolve this in a new world without religious affiliations?
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Although we starkly disapprove of Communism, religion in the Soviet Union is an incident with how the effect(s) would be. You need to understand the world will change, susceptible to our direction, and this mindset will have a paradigm shift.
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How quickly will the changes begin manifestation and during manifestation, how quickly will they become mankind's new perceived reality? And, how far will the paradigm shift...shift? Towards what nature? Away from politics? Back toward integrity?
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Perhaps my perception is wrong, but with regard to religion..most of your "blue collar" population..the ones that build things..the carpenters, the utility workers, the electricians,etc. most of these people are religious.

The people that hold unfavorable views of religion are the academics, the professors, writers, etc. (and the under 30 generation who have no skills whatsoever, nor do they want any skills).

You need the "blue collar" workers whatever direction the world takes. Many of these people will never willingly give up their religious beliefs. And without them, the infrastructure would likely fall apart.

Am I wrong?? If not, how do you plan to resolve this in a new world without religious affiliations?
 Quoting: Fuddy-Duddy


You may think you know everything you need to know about the historical figure "Jesus Christ", but every cherished belief you have about him is false. Jesus Christ is a fake and a fraud. For a start, his name wasn't Jesus Christ but Yehoshua ben Yosef ("Joshua son of Joseph"). And, just as his name is a fiction designed to disguise the truth, so is everything else about him.


1) The central promise of Christianity - the resurrection of the dead - is utterly wrong. As we shall show, the Christian Gospels demonstrate conclusively that Jesus Christ was reincarnated, not resurrected.
2) Jesus Christ was the central figure in one of the most audacious plots in history.
3) He was head of an Elite Family that wished to rule the world. The Family exists to this day, and their conspiracy is unchanged.
4) Jesus Christ was the leader of an army that sought to overthrow Roman rule in Judea. He was executed as a violent revolutionary attempting to set himself up as a king.
5) Judas, the infamous traitor, was the brother of Jesus Christ.

The greatest lie and fraud in history has endured too long.

It's a simple fact that most Christians know next to nothing about Christianity. How many people are aware of the many heresies that were stamped out by the early Church? Had any of these heresies triumphed, the world would be a very different, and much saner place.

the monstrous St Augustine and his doctrines of grace, Original Sin, Predestination and the Total Depravity of the human race. This "saint" was happy to send to hell unbaptised babies that died in infancy. His great enemy was the humane and rational Celtic monk Pelagius. The great tragedy of Christianity is that it listened to Augustine rather than Pelagius, and it did so for the oldest of reasons - because Augustine offered the officials of the Church much more personal power.

Are the 12 Steps of Alcoholics' Anonymous tantamount to cult indoctrination? Were Freud and Augustine both obsessed with their parents? What is "Hieros Gamos"? Should it be a regular feature of the modern world?

Were many people in the ancient world known as the "Son of God"? Are the Christian concepts of the Holy Trinity and the incarnation of God in man the most logically incoherent doctrines ever devised?

Who was the heretic Nestorious and why was he so significant? Why is reincarnation much more logical than resurrection? Why is it that so few Christians understand the concept of resurrection?

Should the story of the Garden of Eden be completely reinterpreted for the contemporary world? What is the difference between consciousness and bicameralism? Are Jews, Christians and Muslims actually bicameral i.e. belonging to an earlier and more stupid stage of human evolution?

Were the Jews advocates of temple prostitution, even within the confines of Solomon's holy temple to Yahweh?

Can the tales of Abraham, Jephtha and the Garden of Eden prove conclusively that the Jews, Christians and Muslims worship the Devil?

Did the sacred Jewish Covenant with Yahweh result in all Jews going to hell according to the Christian doctrine of Original Sin? Is everyone mentioned in the Old Testament even now in hell?

Anyone well-versed in the study of Judaism, Christianity and Islam cannot fail to conclude that the God of these religions must be considered to be identical with Satan i.e. Abrahamists are under the power of the Devil, hence why they have committed so many evil acts throughout history.


The absurdities of Christianity can be understood only by examining the many heresies that sprang up in the early centuries of the Church, challenging every aspect of orthodox Christian thinking. These heresies have boxed in Christianity so much that all that's left is a statement of what Christianity ISN'T rather than what it is. Any Christian theologian who attempts to meaningfully explain the Trinity and Incarnation instantly succumbs to one heresy or another. It's only possible to be a Trinitarian Christian by stating the formula "three persons in one God" over and over again, without daring to specify what, exactly, "person" means. The mantra is devoid of meaning and any attempt to assign meaning slips into heresy. Similarly, Christians mouth the hollow formula of the Incarnation: "two natures, human and divine, in one person" without having any idea of what "nature" means. Is nature consciousness, personality, will, intelligence? Does Christ have a human soul, a divine soul or both? Is he a God-man mutant, a hybrid? In what way can he be said to have any genuine connection with humanity at all? How does the Incarnation fit with the Trinity?

Is the human nature of Jesus Christ now part of the Trinity? If not, where did it go? Was Jesus Christ simply a super-angel? If he was "begotten" of God then he can't BE God since there must have been a time before he was begat when he didn't exist. A non-existent God is an impossibility therefore the Son of God can't be God. This is the basis of the famous Arian heresy, which came perilously close to becoming Christian orthodoxy.

Who is Jesus Christ's father? Shouldn't it be God the Son since God the Son and Jesus Christ (the Son of God) are supposedly one and the same being? Yet the "infallible" scriptures clearly identify the Holy Spirit, not God the Son, as Jesus' father. He has the WRONG father. Christianity should, logically, be all about the HOLY SPIRIT since he provides Jesus' divine element. Christianity couldn't even rationally work out who Jesus' father must be for it to make sense.

Theologically, Christianity is comical. The myriad errors are simply ignored. No Christian cares about the truth content of what they believe. Christians have no relationship whatever with the truth.

Ponder the science of divine conception. How does the process work scientifically? Could you write 1,000 words on the subject? If you can't, of what value is your Christian faith?

And I havent even begun with the other demonic flavours of Abrahamism!
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you have your beliefs and I have mine and I am a christian, and would sooner die than EVER renounce my faith. fellow christians, these people think they are god. pagans. I'm sorry as jesus said, father forgive them, they know NOT what they do.
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How old were you?
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How quickly will the changes begin manifestation? And, how far will the paradigm shift...shift? Towards what nature? Away from politics? Back toward integrity?
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The Illuminati adhere to the philosophical ideology of one of their most revered Grand Masters Hegel, in that it is believed that the nature of the (physical) universe is one of dialectical progression.

A shift will definitely come.... but when?

That is up to the common man, yes, you & I.

Mankind is at the crossroads of being enslaved for another millenia at least, ushering in another dark age.

It is up to all of us to resist the elite's agenda.

The first step is to stop listening to all the drivel about the Illuminati, like this guy is spouting.
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you have your beliefs and I have mine and I am a christian, and would sooner die than EVER renounce my faith. fellow christians, these people think they are god. pagans. I'm sorry as jesus said, father forgive them, they know NOT what they do.
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Yes, 'believers' & the faithful like you & your ilk are the major hurdle the Illuminati face to usher in a new world order for humanity. The deluded masses of fanatics who would rather live in misery than jettison your cherished belief system.

Like your hero Martin Luther once said: "reason is the devil's whore" we say: "faith is the devils whore."
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you have your beliefs and I have mine and I am a christian, and would sooner die than EVER renounce my faith. fellow christians, these people think they are god. pagans. I'm sorry as jesus said, father forgive them, they know NOT what they do.
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Yes, 'believers' & the faithful like you & your ilk are the major hurdle the Illuminati face to usher in a new world order for humanity. The deluded masses of fanatics who would rather live in misery than jettison your cherished belief system.

Like your hero Martin Luther once said: "reason is the devil's whore" we say: "faith is the devils whore."
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It's a striking feature of Protestantism that few Protestants know anything about the founder of their religion. Martin Luther is one of the most pathological figures in history. Would any sane, rational person wish to subscribe to a religion whose founder declared: "Reason is the Devil's greatest whore; by nature and in manner of being she is a noxious whore; she is a prostitute, the Devil's appointed whore; whore eaten by scab and leprosy who ought to be trodden under foot and destroyed, she and her wisdom...Throw dung in her face to make her ugly. She is and she ought to be drowned in baptism...She would deserve, the wretch, to be banished to the filthiest place in the house, the toilet."

Protestantism is the gospel of unreason and attracts only the irrational. It's difficult to imagine that the reformation of Catholicism could produce something even worse, but Luther managed it. Protestantism is practically deranged, reflecting the profound psychological torments of its founder.

Making extensive use of Luther's own words, the Pythagorean Illuminati, the oldest secret society in the world, have produced a polemical attack on the religion that has come to be most closely identified with the evils of Western capitalism. Protestantism is the religion of Mammon. It is an anti-religion, for people who do not want to relinquish belief in God but have no interest in expressing any spirituality
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Are you familiar with the word hubris and what it ultimately implies?
I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain.
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you have your beliefs and I have mine and I am a christian, and would sooner die than EVER renounce my faith. fellow christians, these people think they are god. pagans. I'm sorry as jesus said, father forgive them, they know NOT what they do.
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Yes, 'believers' & the faithful like you & your ilk are the major hurdle the Illuminati face to usher in a new world order for humanity. The deluded masses of fanatics who would rather live in misery than jettison your cherished belief system.

Like your hero Martin Luther once said: "reason is the devil's whore" we say: "faith is the devils whore."
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Then I am truly pleased to hear that. YOU are not god. and this organization is deluded and therewill be a reckoning, obviously, you won't be going to heaven. I wonder how warm it is in hell? FYI: when the end comes the illuminati wont be consulted. GOD saw time from beginning to end. not you. ahole
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Could you please summarize the organization's "mission statement" or core philosophies?
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A calculated globality, designed to evolve into a worldwide oligarchy which creates the order needed for efficient management of humanity as one whole - motivation enforced with the harsh realities of developing technologies. As people appreciate their individuality, nations do as well and we are impelled to conduct insidious measures for consolidating boarders into only a sphere.

We are good people who are privileged with the vision, embodied in our organization, to decisively aspire for a better world: a new one, a superior order.
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The Illuminati can't attain their goal without alchemy and thus would recognize being both good and evil and be compelled to be honest at all times or lose their stone.

You are a fraud.
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Then I am truly pleased to hear that. YOU are not god. and this organization is deluded and therewill be a reckoning, obviously, you won't be going to heaven. I wonder how warm it is in hell? FYI: when the end comes the illuminati wont be consulted. GOD saw time from beginning to end. not you. ahole
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I was told once: 'never argue with an idiot, because they will only drag you down to their level & beat you with their expertise.'

Next question please....
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Then I am truly pleased to hear that. YOU are not god. and this organization is deluded and therewill be a reckoning, obviously, you won't be going to heaven. I wonder how warm it is in hell? FYI: when the end comes the illuminati wont be consulted. GOD saw time from beginning to end. not you. ahole
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I was told once: 'never argue with an idiot, because they will only drag you down to their level & beat you with their expertise.'

Next question please....
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pot meet kettle, have a nice day.
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Could you please summarize the organization's "mission statement" or core philosophies?
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A calculated globality, designed to evolve into a worldwide oligarchy which creates the order needed for efficient management of humanity as one whole - motivation enforced with the harsh realities of developing technologies. As people appreciate their individuality, nations do as well and we are impelled to conduct insidious measures for consolidating boarders into only a sphere.

We are good people who are privileged with the vision, embodied in our organization, to decisively aspire for a better world: a new one, a superior order.
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The Illuminati can't attain their goal without alchemy and thus would recognize being both good and evil and be compelled to be honest at all times or lose their stone.

You are a fraud.
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Yes, this guy IS a fraud.

The Illuminati believe in a metaphor of alchemy, to turn base lead (current humanity) into gold (similar to Nietzsche's 'superman).

They believe that ALL aspects of a human being need to be dealt with eg. the Jungian 'shadow,' for example, rather than have it 'swept under the carpet' or suppressed & even ignored, leading to a 'Jekyll & Hyde' monster.

Take for example, the ancient Greeks: by day they worshiped Apollo, God of reason & logic, by night they worshipped Dionysus, God of , well, alcohol & partying. This way the shadow was dealt with rather than festered. Much, much healthier.

ask yourself: If/when you go out to party, hasn't the world seemed to have gone 'crazy?' I can tell you, things wern't this bad when I was a teenager/ in my 20's.

Does that answer your question?
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you have your beliefs and I have mine and I am a christian, and would sooner die than EVER renounce my faith. fellow christians, these people think they are god. pagans. I'm sorry as jesus said, father forgive them, they know NOT what they do.
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Yes, 'believers' & the faithful like you & your ilk are the major hurdle the Illuminati face to usher in a new world order for humanity. The deluded masses of fanatics who would rather live in misery than jettison your cherished belief system.

Like your hero Martin Luther once said: "reason is the devil's whore" we say: "faith is the devils whore."
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Well, I understand a lot of people in the world do live in misery (particularly the middle east and africa).
But I will be honest. I am a Christian in the United States and I have never lived in misery. I have had a pretty good life. I had a loving family. I went to school and Church growing up, played sports, went to College, got a degree, I have a good job, and a wonderful family of my own. We go on vacations, out to eat with friends, laugh and have a good time. I find my spiritual life fulfilling. The only misery I have experienced is through illness and death of loved ones. I have had problems in my life..occasionally gotten short on money and had to work through that type of thing, but other than that, I'm a pretty happy person. I don't bother anybody and the only changes I would like to see are elsewhere in the world where there is true misery. I think small town American is actually pretty happy for the most part, pretty stable, and just can't really comprehend why our lives need to change. We give to charity and try to help others that need it. I think we are pretty good people overall. (with a few exceptions, of course).
“I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.”
Abraham Lincoln
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Well, I understand a lot of people in the world do live in misery (particularly the middle east and africa).
But I will be honest. I am a Christian in the United States and I have never lived in misery. I have had a pretty good life. I had a loving family. I went to school and Church growing up, played sports, went to College, got a degree, I have a good job, and a wonderful family of my own. We go on vacations, out to eat with friends, laugh and have a good time. I find my spiritual life fulfilling. The only misery I have experienced is through illness and death of loved ones. I have had problems in my life..occasionally gotten short on money and had to work through that type of thing, but other than that, I'm a pretty happy person. I don't bother anybody and the only changes I would like to see are elsewhere in the world where there is true misery. I think small town American is actually pretty happy for the most part, pretty stable, and just can't really comprehend why our lives need to change. We give to charity and try to help others that need it. I think we are pretty good people overall. (with a few exceptions, of course).
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Well, before I found the wisdom of the Illuminati I was mostly Buddhist, & you know how renowned they are for their happiness!

But after coming in contact with the Illuminati, coincidentally through a link on GLP that gets you autobanned now if you post it, I have a much deeper understanding of how the world, even how the universe functions.

No secret society is more controversial than the Illuminati, yet almost nothing of the truth of this mysterious ancient Order is available in the public record. Propaganda, misinformation, disinformation, paranoia and downright fantasy are rife. Some have even described the Illuminati as pan-dimensional, shape-shifting Reptilians from another world!

The Illuminati have become the peg upon which anyone can hang their favorite and most outlandish conspiracy theories. They are the "men behind the curtain", the "ultimate puppetmasters", fascists, communists, bankers, Jews, monarchists, anti-monarchists, lizards, you name it. They support "big" government, high taxes and the sinister New World Order, based on a single global currency. They want to build death camps and reduce the world's population to one billion souls.

So much for the penny-dreadful nonsense churned out by the simple minded pied pipers of Conspiracy World.

The truth of the real Illuminati is enormously more fascinating. The present Grand Master of the Illuminati has authorized the release into the public arena, for the very first time, of the facts concerning the ancient Order.

Now you can discover for yourself the extraordinary nature of this secret society, its esoteric Gnostic and Hermetic religion known as Illumination, and how it represents the greatest hope for humanity in overthrowing the Devil-worshiping Abrahamic religions and the Old World Order of elite, dynastic families of privilege that run the planet, such as the Bush family, the Rothschilds and the British Royal Family.

It's time to build a meritocratic world, a world free of privilege and religious brainwashing, a world where the super rich are brought down to earth. It's time for a New World Order where humanity can devote itself to its true purpose: creating a Community of Gods, a Society of the Divine. Don't you want to join the greatest adventure in human history? The Illuminati offer nothing less than ultimate transformation, and the truth concerning the supreme object of humanity's spiritual quest - the Holy Grail itself.

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Perhaps my perception is wrong, but with regard to religion..most of your "blue collar" population..the ones that build things..the carpenters, the utility workers, the electricians,etc. most of these people are religious.

The people that hold unfavorable views of religion are the academics, the professors, writers, etc. (and the under 30 generation who have no skills whatsoever, nor do they want any skills).

You need the "blue collar" workers whatever direction the world takes. Many of these people will never willingly give up their religious beliefs. And without them, the infrastructure would likely fall apart.

Am I wrong?? If not, how do you plan to resolve this in a new world without religious affiliations?
 Quoting: Fuddy-Duddy


You may think you know everything you need to know about the historical figure "Jesus Christ", but every cherished belief you have about him is false. Jesus Christ is a fake and a fraud. For a start, his name wasn't Jesus Christ but Yehoshua ben Yosef ("Joshua son of Joseph"). And, just as his name is a fiction designed to disguise the truth, so is everything else about him.


1) The central promise of Christianity - the resurrection of the dead - is utterly wrong. As we shall show, the Christian Gospels demonstrate conclusively that Jesus Christ was reincarnated, not resurrected.
2) Jesus Christ was the central figure in one of the most audacious plots in history.
3) He was head of an Elite Family that wished to rule the world. The Family exists to this day, and their conspiracy is unchanged.
4) Jesus Christ was the leader of an army that sought to overthrow Roman rule in Judea. He was executed as a violent revolutionary attempting to set himself up as a king.
5) Judas, the infamous traitor, was the brother of Jesus Christ.

The greatest lie and fraud in history has endured too long.

It's a simple fact that most Christians know next to nothing about Christianity. How many people are aware of the many heresies that were stamped out by the early Church? Had any of these heresies triumphed, the world would be a very different, and much saner place.

the monstrous St Augustine and his doctrines of grace, Original Sin, Predestination and the Total Depravity of the human race. This "saint" was happy to send to hell unbaptised babies that died in infancy. His great enemy was the humane and rational Celtic monk Pelagius. The great tragedy of Christianity is that it listened to Augustine rather than Pelagius, and it did so for the oldest of reasons - because Augustine offered the officials of the Church much more personal power.

Are the 12 Steps of Alcoholics' Anonymous tantamount to cult indoctrination? Were Freud and Augustine both obsessed with their parents? What is "Hieros Gamos"? Should it be a regular feature of the modern world?

Were many people in the ancient world known as the "Son of God"? Are the Christian concepts of the Holy Trinity and the incarnation of God in man the most logically incoherent doctrines ever devised?

Who was the heretic Nestorious and why was he so significant? Why is reincarnation much more logical than resurrection? Why is it that so few Christians understand the concept of resurrection?

Should the story of the Garden of Eden be completely reinterpreted for the contemporary world? What is the difference between consciousness and bicameralism? Are Jews, Christians and Muslims actually bicameral i.e. belonging to an earlier and more stupid stage of human evolution?

Were the Jews advocates of temple prostitution, even within the confines of Solomon's holy temple to Yahweh?

Can the tales of Abraham, Jephtha and the Garden of Eden prove conclusively that the Jews, Christians and Muslims worship the Devil?

Did the sacred Jewish Covenant with Yahweh result in all Jews going to hell according to the Christian doctrine of Original Sin? Is everyone mentioned in the Old Testament even now in hell?

Anyone well-versed in the study of Judaism, Christianity and Islam cannot fail to conclude that the God of these religions must be considered to be identical with Satan i.e. Abrahamists are under the power of the Devil, hence why they have committed so many evil acts throughout history.


The absurdities of Christianity can be understood only by examining the many heresies that sprang up in the early centuries of the Church, challenging every aspect of orthodox Christian thinking. These heresies have boxed in Christianity so much that all that's left is a statement of what Christianity ISN'T rather than what it is. Any Christian theologian who attempts to meaningfully explain the Trinity and Incarnation instantly succumbs to one heresy or another. It's only possible to be a Trinitarian Christian by stating the formula "three persons in one God" over and over again, without daring to specify what, exactly, "person" means. The mantra is devoid of meaning and any attempt to assign meaning slips into heresy. Similarly, Christians mouth the hollow formula of the Incarnation: "two natures, human and divine, in one person" without having any idea of what "nature" means. Is nature consciousness, personality, will, intelligence? Does Christ have a human soul, a divine soul or both? Is he a God-man mutant, a hybrid? In what way can he be said to have any genuine connection with humanity at all? How does the Incarnation fit with the Trinity?

Is the human nature of Jesus Christ now part of the Trinity? If not, where did it go? Was Jesus Christ simply a super-angel? If he was "begotten" of God then he can't BE God since there must have been a time before he was begat when he didn't exist. A non-existent God is an impossibility therefore the Son of God can't be God. This is the basis of the famous Arian heresy, which came perilously close to becoming Christian orthodoxy.

Who is Jesus Christ's father? Shouldn't it be God the Son since God the Son and Jesus Christ (the Son of God) are supposedly one and the same being? Yet the "infallible" scriptures clearly identify the Holy Spirit, not God the Son, as Jesus' father. He has the WRONG father. Christianity should, logically, be all about the HOLY SPIRIT since he provides Jesus' divine element. Christianity couldn't even rationally work out who Jesus' father must be for it to make sense.

Theologically, Christianity is comical. The myriad errors are simply ignored. No Christian cares about the truth content of what they believe. Christians have no relationship whatever with the truth.

Ponder the science of divine conception. How does the process work scientifically? Could you write 1,000 words on the subject? If you can't, of what value is your Christian faith?

And I havent even begun with the other demonic flavours of Abrahamism!
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I also believe religion is a farce, but the christ consciousness I absolutely do believe in and I believe there have been many 'christ' like figures throughout history. We have the ability to attain the level of christ and become 'god-like'. I know it.
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Why do you call yourself Illuminati? From where I'm sitting you're more endarkened than enlightened... I'll keep suffering freedom, thanks. Oh, if you aren't just some No-lifer role player, of course whatever
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I also believe religion is a farce, but the christ consciousness I absolutely do believe in and I believe there have been many 'christ' like figures throughout history. We have the ability to attain the level of christ and become 'god-like'. I know it.
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I wont pretend to be an expert, just to give you my opinion,

a persons higher self usually communicates through symbols or the like, the 'Christ' you saw was probably your higher self making a powerful contact through the vision.

Do you remember when Homer Simpson's 'higher self' was communication with him? It took on the vision of Colonel Klink from Hogans heroes lol!

The things I now know about 'Jesus Christ' would make your head spin! You wouldn't see a Christ tard in the same light again!
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Why do you call yourself Illuminati? From where I'm sitting you're more endarkened than enlightened... I'll keep suffering freedom, thanks. Oh, if you aren't just some No-lifer role player, of course whatever
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Who? Me or the other British guy?
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Ho hum. Another entertaining thread derailed by a competing illuminatus.

HEY AUSTRALIAN Illuminatus, why not start your own fucking thread next time? You'd think tact might be useful for an Illuminatus. But no.

Next time let people have their fun. I realize you take all this very seriously. And that's fine. But put it in your own thread!!!

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Ho hum. Another entertaining thread derailed by a competing illuminatus.

HRY AUSTRALIAN Illuminatus, why not start your own fucking thread next time? You'd think tact might be useful for an Illuminatus. But no.

Next time let people have their fun. I realize you take all this very seriously. And that's fine. But put it in your own thread!!!
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I know, it was a bit rotten of me
rockon

but I don't make original posts at GLP because by HIS (you know who)own admission, GLP do a scan of your computer when you make a post, so I just refuse to make one.

But I am very passionate about the Illuminati's mission, & if I can make ANY dent in the crap that gets around about the order, I will do so without any regret or remorse.

Besides, would you rather know the truth about the order, or just some pommy wanker taking the piss?
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It's obvious that the illuminati doesn't care about people. This NWO bullshit has nothing to do with helping humanity prosper.

Maybe your goal is to acquire all the money in the world? If so, what happens when you've reached your goal?

Maybe it is all about the power you have over everything? But a big part of power and status is fame and recognition, you all lead pretty secret lives.

You know, all we have to do is give all the money back and you will lose your power. We don't need money! We are creative, innovative, passionate, and determined. We can figure something else out. Unity will give us strength.

Just imagine what 7 billion people could accomplish! peace
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The things I now know about 'Jesus Christ' would make your head spin! You wouldn't see a Christ tard in the same light again!


Why would you use the term "Christ tard"?? You may believe they are misled in their beliefs or whatever, but most Christians believe in loving and helping others. Christians in my community give a LOT of money to the needy. They give money, food, and help to those who need it. For example, a man nearby just recently became wheelchair bound. Men from a local Church came to his house and constructed a wheelchair ramp and some other things to help him asking nothing in return. Many would give you the shirt off their backs if you asked them for it.
Christians want to make the world a better place, just as you do..just differ in beliefs on how to get there.

Yes, there were some horrible things that happened in the past, but no school of thought or religion or philosophy is innocent of those things. Most people have learned from the past and do not desire that it be repeated, nor do they desire to dwell on it, but move on.
“I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.”
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It's obvious that the illuminati doesn't care about people. This NWO bullshit has nothing to do with helping humanity prosper.

Maybe your goal is to acquire all the money in the world? If so, what happens when you've reached your goal?

Maybe it is all about the power you have over everything? But a big part of power and status is fame and recognition, you all lead pretty secret lives.

You know, all we have to do is give all the money back and you will lose your power. We don't need money! We are creative, innovative, passionate, and determined. We can figure something else out. Unity will give us strength.

Just imagine what 7 billion people could accomplish! peace
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That's the spirit!

Humanity could throw the elite out of power if they so choose, & that is the Illuminati's divine mission. Don't believe this David Dicke reptilian ect. CRAP!!

The main problem is that the world is very much like George Orwell's book Nineteen eighty-four, the 'proles' (that;s pretty much you & I) are completely oblivious to the captivity we are actually in!

Know this as well: Adam Weishaupt's name in the Illuminati was Brother Spartacus, the slave who led the other slaves to rebellion.

Rise up!! What are you waiting for?

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