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Do you think women should serve in the infantry?

 
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Do you think women should serve in the infantry?
POLL: Should women be allowed to serve in the infantry?
 Yes,they are just as capable.
 No,it would affect moral in the front lines seeing dead women.
 Depends on whether the female candidate can pass all the same PT standards as the men.
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Just wanted to know what all the glper's thought about women serving in combat/infantry.

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Re: Do you think women should serve in the infantry?
as a combat vet , NO!
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I put no. It's bad enough we have to send fathers to fight,we don't need mothers acting like savages as well.
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Can they apply for special forces / SEAL training?
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Can they apply for special forces / SEAL training?
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No. You have to be in a certain mos to apply.
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I would have thought that most Americans would say yes, since it seems to be the general consensus that women should be armed for personal/family protection. So if they should be trigger trained for domestic situations then why not extend it to national defense?
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Re: Do you think women should serve in the infantry?
I would have thought that most Americans would say yes, since it seems to be the general consensus that women should be armed for personal/family protection. So if they should be trigger trained for domestic situations then why not extend it to national defense?
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Women can be armed, not should be armed ...
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I would have thought that most Americans would say yes, since it seems to be the general consensus that women should be armed for personal/family protection. So if they should be trigger trained for domestic situations then why not extend it to national defense?
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The emotional factor.
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Re: Do you think women should serve in the infantry?
I was asked this question in 1995 when women were ok'ed to be fighter pilots, I was active duty navy then and I am a woman: The way american men are raised to protect women ect, would make it difficult to support women on the front lines/special forces. Not that i do not think women are capable. Like in G.I. Jane... Viggo makes the eby forcing her shipmates to witness him beating her ass, to show their weakness not hers.
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Re: Do you think women should serve in the infantry?
Well, it might cut down on the straight guys playing butt-tag with the homos.
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Re: Do you think women should serve in the infantry?
NO!!! Look. Its like this. Women CANNOT do EVERYTHING a man can do and God DID NOT make women to do everything a man can do! I fully believe that its hard enough on men in the military when they have to do recovery missions and go find pieces of their friends that were in their Battalion with them and its hard enough on MEN to go get their friends who have holes blown them or their throats slit to where they are held on by a thread....and I believe men would have a VERY hard time seeing this done to a women. AndI believe women will have a very hard time seeing this done to other women as well!
Men in combat ( most men) will be distracted by trying to protect women in combat and I just can't see where this is a good thing at all. These women who believe they are exactly equal to men are just ate up in my opinion!!
Should a woman be forced back into the home barefoot & pregnant? OF COURSE NOT! Not unless they choose to do so. But, plain and simple.THERE IS A REASON GOD CREATED " MAN" and "WOMAN". He did NOT create man and man. He created "Adam " & "Eve" ......NOT "Adam and Steve!!!".
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NO!!! Look. Its like this. Women CANNOT do EVERYTHING a man can do and God DID NOT make women to do everything a man can do! I fully believe that its hard enough on men in the military when they have to do recovery missions and go find pieces of their friends that were in their Battalion with them and its hard enough on MEN to go get their friends who have holes blown them or their throats slit to where they are held on by a thread....and I believe men would have a VERY hard time seeing this done to a women. AndI believe women will have a very hard time seeing this done to other women as well!
Men in combat ( most men) will be distracted by trying to protect women in combat and I just can't see where this is a good thing at all. These women who believe they are exactly equal to men are just ate up in my opinion!!
Should a woman be forced back into the home barefoot & pregnant? OF COURSE NOT! Not unless they choose to do so. But, plain and simple.THERE IS A REASON GOD CREATED " MAN" and "WOMAN". He did NOT create man and man. He created "Adam " & "Eve" ......NOT "Adam and Steve!!!".
 Quoting: Little Miss Sunshine


That is the most ignorant shit Ive read all day. Woman are capable of doing everything a man can, maybe not the same method. And the Gay bashing has nothing to do with topic.
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Re: Do you think women should serve in the infantry?
Keep in mind women already serve in 93% of military applications.

Little Snip; The physical toll is harder on women, Captain Petronio argues, adding that after five years in the marines she is "not physically the woman I once was and my views have greatly changed on the possibility of women having successful long careers while serving in the infantry".

A combat-experienced officer, Captain Petronio's stints in Iraq and Afghanistan have left her with restless leg syndrome and muscle atrophy, and rendered her infertile.

"At the end of the 7-month deployment...I had lost 17 pounds and was diagnosed with polycystic ovarian syndrome (which personally resulted in infertility, but is not a genetic trend in my family), which was brought on by the chemical and physical changes endured during deployment," she said.




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Re: Do you think women should serve in the infantry?
NO!!! Look. Its like this. Women CANNOT do EVERYTHING a man can do and God DID NOT make women to do everything a man can do! I fully believe that its hard enough on men in the military when they have to do recovery missions and go find pieces of their friends that were in their Battalion with them and its hard enough on MEN to go get their friends who have holes blown them or their throats slit to where they are held on by a thread....and I believe men would have a VERY hard time seeing this done to a women. AndI believe women will have a very hard time seeing this done to other women as well!
Men in combat ( most men) will be distracted by trying to protect women in combat and I just can't see where this is a good thing at all. These women who believe they are exactly equal to men are just ate up in my opinion!!
Should a woman be forced back into the home barefoot & pregnant? OF COURSE NOT! Not unless they choose to do so. But, plain and simple.THERE IS A REASON GOD CREATED " MAN" and "WOMAN". He did NOT create man and man. He created "Adam " & "Eve" ......NOT "Adam and Steve!!!".
 Quoting: Little Miss Sunshine


That is the most ignorant shit Ive read all day. Woman are capable of doing everything a man can, maybe not the same method. And the Gay bashing has nothing to do with topic.
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GAY BASHING???? I didn't gay bash ANYONE!!! You queer are ya? Guilty conscious taking over?? WELL--- I REALLY DONT CARE!! I made a reference to two mens names....NOT FAG OR DYKE BASHING ANYWHERE!! But I can!!! You must be one of the butch bitches that believe you were built physically and emotionally JUST LIKE A MAN!! And if thats the case...you should be able to take a good ass beating JUST LIKE A MAN CAN TOO!!!.
Go.pound sand.... loser!
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Re: Do you think women should serve in the infantry?
NO!!! Look. Its like this. Women CANNOT do EVERYTHING a man can do and God DID NOT make women to do everything a man can do! I fully believe that its hard enough on men in the military when they have to do recovery missions and go find pieces of their friends that were in their Battalion with them and its hard enough on MEN to go get their friends who have holes blown them or their throats slit to where they are held on by a thread....and I believe men would have a VERY hard time seeing this done to a women. AndI believe women will have a very hard time seeing this done to other women as well!
Men in combat ( most men) will be distracted by trying to protect women in combat and I just can't see where this is a good thing at all. These women who believe they are exactly equal to men are just ate up in my opinion!!
Should a woman be forced back into the home barefoot & pregnant? OF COURSE NOT! Not unless they choose to do so. But, plain and simple.THERE IS A REASON GOD CREATED " MAN" and "WOMAN". He did NOT create man and man. He created "Adam " & "Eve" ......NOT "Adam and Steve!!!".
 Quoting: Little Miss Sunshine


That is the most ignorant shit Ive read all day. Woman are capable of doing everything a man can, maybe not the same method. And the Gay bashing has nothing to do with topic.
 Quoting: smokahontas


GAY BASHING???? I didn't gay bash ANYONE!!! You queer are ya? Guilty conscious taking over?? WELL--- I REALLY DONT CARE!! I made a reference to two mens names....NOT FAG OR DYKE BASHING ANYWHERE!! But I can!!! You must be one of the butch bitches that believe you were built physically and emotionally JUST LIKE A MAN!! And if thats the case...you should be able to take a good ass beating JUST LIKE A MAN CAN TOO!!!.
Go.pound sand.... loser!
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So you are the Pound Sand bad karma giver. Hahaha Awsome
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I don't think women should be in the military.....period.

The military destroyed my half sisters life. She is suffering from so many medical ailments & a lot of them are due to the fact that she fell off some of the birds on aircraft carriers.
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Re: Do you think women should serve in the infantry?
I voted "Yes".
I want to see all these feminists/feminazis in the front row, there they can show they are "equal" to men.

no general conscription, of course, for both genders.

everyone who wants to go to war should be able to.

but:
no obamacare or vetcare or whatever for them, as they are just mercenarys, there should be private health care for them - and they should be made to pay for it themselves, not the public.
so those who want to fight, shall be able to fight.
but those who do not want war shall not be forced to pay for the stupidness and injuries of those others.

it´s your private amusement to go to war.

make it a private amusement to join the armies world wide.
get some lonely playgrounds for those who like to kill each other.
let the rest of the world live in peace.

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Well, it might cut down on the straight guys playing butt-tag with the homos.
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WHAT?
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Re: Do you think women should serve in the infantry?
NO!!! Look. Its like this. Women CANNOT do EVERYTHING a man can do and God DID NOT make women to do everything a man can do! I fully believe that its hard enough on men in the military when they have to do recovery missions and go find pieces of their friends that were in their Battalion with them and its hard enough on MEN to go get their friends who have holes blown them or their throats slit to where they are held on by a thread....and I believe men would have a VERY hard time seeing this done to a women. AndI believe women will have a very hard time seeing this done to other women as well!
Men in combat ( most men) will be distracted by trying to protect women in combat and I just can't see where this is a good thing at all. These women who believe they are exactly equal to men are just ate up in my opinion!!
Should a woman be forced back into the home barefoot & pregnant? OF COURSE NOT! Not unless they choose to do so. But, plain and simple.THERE IS A REASON GOD CREATED " MAN" and "WOMAN". He did NOT create man and man. He created "Adam " & "Eve" ......NOT "Adam and Steve!!!".
 Quoting: Little Miss Sunshine


That is the most ignorant shit Ive read all day. Woman are capable of doing everything a man can, maybe not the same method. And the Gay bashing has nothing to do with topic.
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Can they do it and still maintain there femininity?
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If a woman is fit enough, wants to fight and is not afraid to die for her country, she should have every right to serve on the front lines. In my oppinion the wowan should be able to choose.
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NO!!! Look. Its like this. Women CANNOT do EVERYTHING a man can do and God DID NOT make women to do everything a man can do! I fully believe that its hard enough on men in the military when they have to do recovery missions and go find pieces of their friends that were in their Battalion with them and its hard enough on MEN to go get their friends who have holes blown them or their throats slit to where they are held on by a thread....and I believe men would have a VERY hard time seeing this done to a women. AndI believe women will have a very hard time seeing this done to other women as well!
Men in combat ( most men) will be distracted by trying to protect women in combat and I just can't see where this is a good thing at all. These women who believe they are exactly equal to men are just ate up in my opinion!!
Should a woman be forced back into the home barefoot & pregnant? OF COURSE NOT! Not unless they choose to do so. But, plain and simple.THERE IS A REASON GOD CREATED " MAN" and "WOMAN". He did NOT create man and man. He created "Adam " & "Eve" ......NOT "Adam and Steve!!!".
 Quoting: Little Miss Sunshine


That is the most ignorant shit Ive read all day. Woman are capable of doing everything a man can, maybe not the same method. And the Gay bashing has nothing to do with topic.
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Can they do it and still maintain there femininity?

I believe they can if they had it to begin with, Yes
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No, I don't. I don't even want to think what would be done to them as POWs.

I think we all need to accept that our strengths and weaknesses are different from men. Not better, not worse - but just different. We can contribute to our society and counties in different ways, using our brains and using our compassion. Sure there may be some Xena warrior princesses out there, but those are few.
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The footage is from Dennis Storm and Valerio Zeno's Dutch TV show Guinea Pigs and the labor pain was simulated through electrodes. Strapping the electrodes to their stomachs allowed the guys to experience the feeling of contractions. It starts off nicely! The duo giggle at the first few contractions but as it keeps going, they start screaming and holding each other in pain. And they didn't even have to really give birth!




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No, I don't. I don't even want to think what would be done to them as POWs.

I think we all need to accept that our strengths and weaknesses are different from men. Not better, not worse - but just different. We can contribute to our society and counties in different ways, using our brains and using our compassion. Sure there may be some Xena warrior princesses out there, but those are few.
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NO!!! Look. Its like this. Women CANNOT do EVERYTHING a man can do and God DID NOT make women to do everything a man can do! I fully believe that its hard enough on men in the military when they have to do recovery missions and go find pieces of their friends that were in their Battalion with them and its hard enough on MEN to go get their friends who have holes blown them or their throats slit to where they are held on by a thread....and I believe men would have a VERY hard time seeing this done to a women. AndI believe women will have a very hard time seeing this done to other women as well!
Men in combat ( most men) will be distracted by trying to protect women in combat and I just can't see where this is a good thing at all. These women who believe they are exactly equal to men are just ate up in my opinion!!
Should a woman be forced back into the home barefoot & pregnant? OF COURSE NOT! Not unless they choose to do so. But, plain and simple.THERE IS A REASON GOD CREATED " MAN" and "WOMAN". He did NOT create man and man. He created "Adam " & "Eve" ......NOT "Adam and Steve!!!".
 Quoting: Little Miss Sunshine


That is the most ignorant shit Ive read all day. Woman are capable of doing everything a man can, maybe not the same method. And the Gay bashing has nothing to do with topic.
 Quoting: smokahontas



HI Smoke a hot ness!

It's not about being able to do the same task. There's more to it. Primarily, men are hard wired to protect women. Some can be trained out, but that trait will exist and, in a fight, a man may take unnecessary risks when paired up with a woman. Second, most women would have to seriously excel in the physical strength arena to throw a 220# unconsious man, with kit, over her shoulder and run for cover.

So, me, if I'm in a serious fire fight, I want women elsewhere. You can fly the blackhawk, .50 gunner, even sniper (and women really do shoot better in general), but on the ground infantry, I must say NO.

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The footage is from Dennis Storm and Valerio Zeno's Dutch TV show Guinea Pigs and the labor pain was simulated through electrodes. Strapping the electrodes to their stomachs allowed the guys to experience the feeling of contractions. It starts off nicely! The duo giggle at the first few contractions but as it keeps going, they start screaming and holding each other in pain. And they didn't even have to really give birth!




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Dudes are pussies, Women are the stronger gender, maybe not bigger, but stronger. The only reason it would be a problem on the front lines is that MEN couldnt handle it.
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No, because nobody should serve in the infantry.

So i voted blank.
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Rush said it best this morning

Obama doesn't want men PLAYING football because it is too dangerous.

However he wants WOMEN ***who have monthly menstrual cycles and need sanitary supplies all day every day for about 7 days every month to go into battle****..

Where is she supposed to change her sanitary napkin??? Where will it be disposed??? Who wants to be in a foxhole with a woman bleeding all over herself and suffering from PMS to boot??

Yea, let women go and get shot and killed on the front lines, let them get captured and tortured in unimaginable ways, but no PLAYING football..

These people in charge are fucking sick twisted fucks.

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The footage is from Dennis Storm and Valerio Zeno's Dutch TV show Guinea Pigs and the labor pain was simulated through electrodes. Strapping the electrodes to their stomachs allowed the guys to experience the feeling of contractions. It starts off nicely! The duo giggle at the first few contractions but as it keeps going, they start screaming and holding each other in pain. And they didn't even have to really give birth!




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 Quoting: smokahontas


Dudes are pussies, Women are the stronger gender, maybe not bigger, but stronger. The only reason it would be a problem on the front lines is that MEN couldnt handle it.
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Dudes are pussies, Women are the stronger gender, maybe not bigger, but stronger. The only reason it would be a problem on the front lines is that MEN couldnt handle it.
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You are right. Men could not handle fighting with a woman and expect to have success equal to the same fight with only men. The woman or women would be protected by the men, knowingly or not.

What trait would YOU bring to a fire fight that could make me change my view?

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Rush said it best this morning

Obama doesn't want men PLAYING football because it is too dangerous.

However he wants WOMEN ***who have monthly menstrual cycles and need sanitary supplies all day every day for about 7 days every month to go into battle****..

Where is she supposed to change her sanitary napkin??? Where will it be disposed??? Who wants to be in a foxhole with a woman bleeding all over herself and suffering from PMS to boot??

Yea, let women go and get shot and killed on the front lines, let them get captured and tortured in unimaginable ways, but no PLAYING football..

These people in charge are fucking sick twisted fucks.

oridin
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Yes, but on the plus side, you might have someone next to you who has a tampon or two on hand to plug any annoying bullet holes in your body . . .





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