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Reincarnation in the Bible

 
Anonymous Coward
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02/01/2013 06:40 PM
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"Christians" go fucking ape-shit, whenever Reincarnation (the way it all really works) is mentioned!

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I do not mind if you reincarnate in whatever shit you wish.

I do not like the idea.
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We are all spirits having a meat-experience, and we will do it until we get the point.

You haven't got the point.
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oh, por favor!
...another restarted piece of meat!
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OP, relax!

And bury now this nonsense of your thread!

There is Resurrection though!



OP, relax!

And bury now this nonsense of your thread!

There is Resurrection though!



OP, relax!

And bury now this nonsense of your thread!

There is Resurrection though!


P.S. Tree times---just in case you don't grasp from one...
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How is resurrection logically possible? Once your body is dead your soul cannot occupy it anymore. Your whole body fails and stops working. Then it decomposes until only the skeleton remains. And what about people killed by bombs who's no remains are left? Even by supernatural standards, its too farfetched, too crazy to believe a person can come back to life from such states. Resurrection is ridiculous. But reincarnation is possible.
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God forgive me for talking to an idiot!
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How is it possible for the dead with no more material body to come back to life? You're mentally retarded.
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02/01/2013 06:52 PM
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How is resurrection logically possible? Once your body is dead your soul cannot occupy it anymore. Your whole body fails and stops working. Then it decomposes until only the skeleton remains. And what about people killed by bombs who's no remains are left? Even by supernatural standards, its too farfetched, too crazy to believe a person can come back to life from such states. Resurrection is ridiculous. But reincarnation is possible.
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"Resurrection" was originally taught by Isaiah as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'. Further details provided by Jeremiah, Ezekiel and Daniel

It is the Egyptian doctrine of "resurrection"--the doctrine of a zombie raising of dead bodies from the grave--which is so far-fetched as not to be believable.

So, "resurrection" is the right term.

It's just that it means 'rebirth'.

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02/01/2013 06:54 PM
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When you really think about it, Reincarnation is the only system that makes any sense.
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OP, relax!

And bury now this nonsense of your thread!

There is Resurrection though!



OP, relax!

And bury now this nonsense of your thread!

There is Resurrection though!



OP, relax!

And bury now this nonsense of your thread!

There is Resurrection though!


P.S. Tree times---just in case you don't grasp from one...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32834975


How is resurrection logically possible? Once your body is dead your soul cannot occupy it anymore. Your whole body fails and stops working. Then it decomposes until only the skeleton remains. And what about people killed by bombs who's no remains are left? Even by supernatural standards, its too farfetched, too crazy to believe a person can come back to life from such states. Resurrection is ridiculous. But reincarnation is possible.
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God forgive me for talking to an idiot!
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How is it possible for the dead with no more material body to come back to life? You're mentally retarded.
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I will stay like this! Thanks for your wisdom, lump of electric meat.
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02/01/2013 06:57 PM
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How is it possible for the dead with no more material body to come back to life? You're mentally retarded.
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There are certain answers which will never be satisfactory to the consciousness of the 'thinker', which depends upon temporal continuity.

The doctrine of "re"-incarnation assumes the existence of a metaphysical 'soul' which enters one body after another in succession. Thus, there is some kind of continuity from one life to the next.

The Doctrine of "resurrection"/'rebirth' assumes no metaphysical 'soul'. Rather, the dead are 'raised from the dead' by the Creator Who Created that individual in the first place.

How is that done?

It's done.

That is the reality.

Let the philosophers and theologians try to determine "why".

But, in any case, it makes no difference "why".

It makes a difference "that".

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When you really think about it, Reincarnation is the only system that makes any sense.
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do you have sense?! ;chuckle:

your highest sense is like dung even to God's nonsense, if there can be such!
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Not sure that you understand the relationship between the Doctrine of 'Rebirth' and the doctrine of "vicarious atonement"; how the doctrine of "vicarious atonement" was a substitute 'explanation' for the crucifixion for the Doctrinal conflict between Jesus and the Jewish priesthood.

The Doctrine of 'Rebirth' threatened the very existence of the Jewish priesthood. I have already mentioned that on numerous occasions. And, without the Satanic doctrines of Paul, the Jewish priesthood may very well have been destroyed.

Thus, the principal goal of the doctrine of "vicarious atonement" was to shift the responsibility for the crucifixion away from the Jewish priesthood to the Jewish people.

In one stroke, Jesus became 'God'; while, simultaneously, "the Jews" became the "Christ-killers" saddled with the "corporate guilt of deicide" as Brother Nathaniel, the raging anti-Semite, argues on a recent video on rense.com; while the Jewish priesthood is completely absolved from any responsibility for the crucifixion.

So, 2000 years later, the Jewish priesthood still survives; but that has been at the expense of millions of Jewish lives.

Michael
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While I've noted your pointing out the relationship between the two doctrines before, the doctrine of 'Rebirth' being a rather new concept to me, the weight of it's relevance in regard to the threat to the Priesthood hadn't/hasn't quite sunk in as yet when taking into account Jesus' warnings and criticism of the Pharisee in general. The attention to customs, ritual, concern of outward image of their own righteousness and so forth (which Paul wound up also reinforcing along with establishing new customs and rituals in place of Jesus teachings).

Given a complete absence of past memories it seems to me a rather esoteric distinction where as for you it appears to be quite pivotal...
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So I got that far, stopped, and began to look for some independent corroboration on your position. No luck until I ran into this thread;

Thread: Reincarnation Stories - Do you remember past lives? Did grandpa come back as your son? (Page 4)

While it offers a lot of reading and study yet to do on the subject for me what I would maintain at this point the first step is still to convince folk to quit listening to Paul as if he were speaking for God or Jesus. A difficult mission which I think your position on Rebirth doctrine won't help sway the 'Bible is God's Word' crowd even a little. In fact it might be apt to send most of them running away screaming all the quicker.

Just food for thought. I freely admit I could be wrong but it just seems to me at this stage in order for the entire truth to be known it will require a softer less complex
approach.

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