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Minister Farrakhan says, reparations and separation, what does white America say?

 
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You're very small-minded to think that people are incompatible because of their race. But I've learned to let small minds be small, so that's that.
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Nearly every conflict in the history of this world has been racial or religious.
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Because race was how societies were separated and people categorized, but race itself was not the catalyst for conflict in most cases. So to say that racial differences make people incompatible is a failure to fully comprehend the role of race in society.
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So I guess you think that if you can totally dissolve those categories then everything will be fine. Except people aren't blind, nor stupid, and furthermore the liberal utopia just won't work. Sorry, begin looking for another solution, yours is a waste of fucking time.
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I didn't offer any solutions. You don't seem to be able to read what's written.
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You're very small-minded to think that people are incompatible because of their race. But I've learned to let small minds be small, so that's that.
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Nearly every conflict in the history of this world has been racial or religious.
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yeah, but saying I am small minded probably made him feel like he totally owned me, regardless of facts and all those petty things. Good stuff.
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I don't say things for show, I tend to use words that fit. And the fact is that wars are hardly fought over race specifically, rather people belonging to one group have conflicting interests (usually economic or religious) with people of another group.
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Well the other poster did mention religion, so he pretty much got your definition covered as well.
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Nearly every conflict in the history of this world has been racial or religious.
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yeah, but saying I am small minded probably made him feel like he totally owned me, regardless of facts and all those petty things. Good stuff.
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I don't say things for show, I tend to use words that fit. And the fact is that wars are hardly fought over race specifically, rather people belonging to one group have conflicting interests (usually economic or religious) with people of another group.
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Well the other poster did mention religion, so he pretty much got your definition covered as well.
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Religion does not equal race.
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Nearly every conflict in the history of this world has been racial or religious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33186634


Because race was how societies were separated and people categorized, but race itself was not the catalyst for conflict in most cases. So to say that racial differences make people incompatible is a failure to fully comprehend the role of race in society.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24094701


So I guess you think that if you can totally dissolve those categories then everything will be fine. Except people aren't blind, nor stupid, and furthermore the liberal utopia just won't work. Sorry, begin looking for another solution, yours is a waste of fucking time.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


I didn't offer any solutions. You don't seem to be able to read what's written.
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Well by what you wrote I am assuming you blame the categories themselves for creating the conflicts so I am guessing you wish to get rid of them in order for conflict to be no more, I.e abolishing the concept of race. correct me if I am wrong.
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Did I say that it wasn't a pipe dream?? No, I didn't.
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"But that's obviously a pipe dream for Farrakhan and followers and all you white supremacists."
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Still waiting for the part where I said "a transformation of mindset is not a pipe dream." You should enhance your reading comprehension. I began with, "I WOULD be all for this 100 years ago." But since it is 100 years later and total social morality (across all races) has degraded, I'm not for this idea.
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Oh got the pipe dream part now, sorry.

Anyway, so you're not for anything, but eventually shit will hit the fan anyhow. There's two ways for things to develop, one is to consciously take charge of the issue and bring a solution, or two, you can let things happen by their own in a chaotic manner. Doing nothing also means doing something.

or else do you have some secret masterplan you're hiding from us?
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In a shit hits the fan situation, my least concern will be someone's race. Rather, I'm more interested in the skills they bring, the morals they have.
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yeah, but saying I am small minded probably made him feel like he totally owned me, regardless of facts and all those petty things. Good stuff.
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I don't say things for show, I tend to use words that fit. And the fact is that wars are hardly fought over race specifically, rather people belonging to one group have conflicting interests (usually economic or religious) with people of another group.
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Well the other poster did mention religion, so he pretty much got your definition covered as well.
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Religion does not equal race.
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I know that, but he mentioned BOTH.

"Nearly every conflict in the history of this world has been racial or religious."
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Religion does not equal race.
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In many cases, it absolutely does.
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Because race was how societies were separated and people categorized, but race itself was not the catalyst for conflict in most cases. So to say that racial differences make people incompatible is a failure to fully comprehend the role of race in society.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24094701


So I guess you think that if you can totally dissolve those categories then everything will be fine. Except people aren't blind, nor stupid, and furthermore the liberal utopia just won't work. Sorry, begin looking for another solution, yours is a waste of fucking time.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


I didn't offer any solutions. You don't seem to be able to read what's written.
 Quoting: Openedeyes 24094701


Well by what you wrote I am assuming you blame the categories themselves for creating the conflicts so I am guessing you wish to get rid of them in order for conflict to be no more, I.e abolishing the concept of race. correct me if I am wrong.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


You're wrong, I keep saying this over and over. Race as a category is just how we identify people. The human mind likes to categorize. But race isn't what causes conflict, other belief systems and economic interests cause conflict and will always cause conflict. You can't get rid of racial categories because we've all been taught to identify others by race, the best you can do is realize that it is just a category, and you cannot apply general attributes to individuals based on your perception of the category.
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"But that's obviously a pipe dream for Farrakhan and followers and all you white supremacists."
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Still waiting for the part where I said "a transformation of mindset is not a pipe dream." You should enhance your reading comprehension. I began with, "I WOULD be all for this 100 years ago." But since it is 100 years later and total social morality (across all races) has degraded, I'm not for this idea.
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Oh got the pipe dream part now, sorry.

Anyway, so you're not for anything, but eventually shit will hit the fan anyhow. There's two ways for things to develop, one is to consciously take charge of the issue and bring a solution, or two, you can let things happen by their own in a chaotic manner. Doing nothing also means doing something.

or else do you have some secret masterplan you're hiding from us?
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


In a shit hits the fan situation, my least concern will be someone's race. Rather, I'm more interested in the skills they bring, the morals they have.
 Quoting: Openedeyes 24094701


Well good luck making decisions without any criteria in that scenario, I certainly don't wish to be among people who hold deep down ancestral resentments in such situation, no matter how great they might be. You never know when the old grudges might arise in the least expected moment.
Banned as usual.

“It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.”
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Still waiting for the part where I said "a transformation of mindset is not a pipe dream." You should enhance your reading comprehension. I began with, "I WOULD be all for this 100 years ago." But since it is 100 years later and total social morality (across all races) has degraded, I'm not for this idea.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24094701


Oh got the pipe dream part now, sorry.

Anyway, so you're not for anything, but eventually shit will hit the fan anyhow. There's two ways for things to develop, one is to consciously take charge of the issue and bring a solution, or two, you can let things happen by their own in a chaotic manner. Doing nothing also means doing something.

or else do you have some secret masterplan you're hiding from us?
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


In a shit hits the fan situation, my least concern will be someone's race. Rather, I'm more interested in the skills they bring, the morals they have.
 Quoting: Openedeyes 24094701


Well good luck making decisions without any criteria in that scenario, I certainly don't wish to be among people who hold deep down ancestral resentments in such situation, no matter how great they might be. You never know when the old grudges might arise in the least expected moment.
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Seems to me that when everyone is hungry, sick, and dying, ancestral history will suddenly seem so petty.
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So I guess you think that if you can totally dissolve those categories then everything will be fine. Except people aren't blind, nor stupid, and furthermore the liberal utopia just won't work. Sorry, begin looking for another solution, yours is a waste of fucking time.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


I didn't offer any solutions. You don't seem to be able to read what's written.
 Quoting: Openedeyes 24094701


Well by what you wrote I am assuming you blame the categories themselves for creating the conflicts so I am guessing you wish to get rid of them in order for conflict to be no more, I.e abolishing the concept of race. correct me if I am wrong.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


You're wrong, I keep saying this over and over. Race as a category is just how we identify people. The human mind likes to categorize. But race isn't what causes conflict, other belief systems and economic interests cause conflict and will always cause conflict. You can't get rid of racial categories because we've all been taught to identify others by race, the best you can do is realize that it is just a category, and you cannot apply general attributes to individuals based on your perception of the category.
 Quoting: Openedeyes 24094701


Well you can't wholly generalize, but you certainly can narrow down certain probabilities based on factual observation and statistic.
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“It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.”
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Oh got the pipe dream part now, sorry.

Anyway, so you're not for anything, but eventually shit will hit the fan anyhow. There's two ways for things to develop, one is to consciously take charge of the issue and bring a solution, or two, you can let things happen by their own in a chaotic manner. Doing nothing also means doing something.

or else do you have some secret masterplan you're hiding from us?
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


In a shit hits the fan situation, my least concern will be someone's race. Rather, I'm more interested in the skills they bring, the morals they have.
 Quoting: Openedeyes 24094701


Well good luck making decisions without any criteria in that scenario, I certainly don't wish to be among people who hold deep down ancestral resentments in such situation, no matter how great they might be. You never know when the old grudges might arise in the least expected moment.
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Seems to me that when everyone is hungry, sick, and dying, ancestral history will suddenly seem so petty.
 Quoting: Openedeyes 24094701


Well buddy, be ready to have your preconceptions crushed. I say this very confidently, you're wrong.
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In a shit hits the fan situation, my least concern will be someone's race. Rather, I'm more interested in the skills they bring, the morals they have.
 Quoting: Openedeyes 24094701


Well good luck making decisions without any criteria in that scenario, I certainly don't wish to be among people who hold deep down ancestral resentments in such situation, no matter how great they might be. You never know when the old grudges might arise in the least expected moment.
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Seems to me that when everyone is hungry, sick, and dying, ancestral history will suddenly seem so petty.
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Well buddy, be ready to have your preconceptions crushed. I say this very confidently, you're wrong.
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It's that type of complete confidence in how people will act when the unknown occurs, is what will likely separate those who survive and those who perish. Good luck to you.
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Mr Farrakan.. get a job.
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Well good luck making decisions without any criteria in that scenario, I certainly don't wish to be among people who hold deep down ancestral resentments in such situation, no matter how great they might be. You never know when the old grudges might arise in the least expected moment.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


Seems to me that when everyone is hungry, sick, and dying, ancestral history will suddenly seem so petty.
 Quoting: Openedeyes 24094701


Well buddy, be ready to have your preconceptions crushed. I say this very confidently, you're wrong.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


It's that type of complete confidence in how people will act when the unknown occurs, is what will likely separate those who survive and those who perish. Good luck to you.
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Banned as usual.

“It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.”
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You see that blank post up there, that's a censored comment. Lord knows why for.
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I was actually saying that in critical situations of societal chaos, people regress back to a more primitive tribal modus operandi. Expecting the opposite is going against all logic and previous experiences.
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“It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.”
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I was actually saying that in critical situations of societal chaos, people regress back to a more primitive tribal modus operandi. Expecting the opposite is going against all logic and previous experiences.
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Let's see here...society is imploding...there's the dying, the sick, the old, the needy, the young, the hungry, the desperate...then abslolute:

CHAOS.

Our 'multi cultural' family is absolutely, positively teaming up with WHITES. They get things 'done.' And they know HOW to do them. They lead, follow, or get out of the way...a quite 'natural' hierarchy falls in place. Leaders lead, the talented solve, create, gather, comfort. The needy, sick, aged, dying, children get cared for to the best of the groups ability.

This 'scenerio' will NOT pan out well for blacks.

And,

I don't want to be anywhere around high proportions of them when the shtf. They are dangerous, ruthless, violent, and scary. Worse, they've been so 'cossetted' by whites with all these 'programs,' they've been reduced to blabbering idiots who will GET YOU KILLED.

In the meantime, I live very harmonious within their perimeters. With bars on my windows, pits, and guns.

There. How's that for a 'racist' response.





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