Godlike Productions - Conspiracy Forum
Users Online Now: 1,860 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 2,377,415
Pageviews Today: 3,159,877Threads Today: 720Posts Today: 14,770
11:43 PM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control

 
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 33186634
United States
01/28/2013 10:10 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
It seems to upset you that people are starting to realize the common denominator in all of this... It's a shame that you can't see it too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33200583


clappa
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 10777137
United States
01/28/2013 10:13 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
You fail to mention the tens of members of both the House and Senate
 Quoting: ANNONYMOUS 8415236


rofl!
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 24068510
United States
01/28/2013 10:23 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
Jewish groups push for action on gun control

By Ron Kampeas · December 18, 2012
Photos

WASHINGTON (JTA) -- In the wake of the shooting rampage in Newtown, Conn., Jewish groups are looking to build alliances and back legislation to strengthen gun control laws.

[link to www.jta.org]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 3693196
United States
01/28/2013 10:42 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
....how do the adl shills explain how JEWS like nathaniel kapner ( check out his vids on rense) AGREE that the jews are the instigators of all the worlds trouble??
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 24068510
United States
01/28/2013 10:59 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
....how do the adl shills explain how JEWS like nathaniel kapner ( check out his vids on rense) AGREE that the jews are the instigators of all the worlds trouble??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3693196


They do it like this...

"Brother" Nathanael Kapner, a virulently anti-Semitic figure, wrote an article on his anti-Jewish Web site Real Jew News entitled, "Is Madoff a Symbol of Jewish Greed?" In the piece, Kapner alleged that Madoff "only had to endure house arrest" because he is a "Jewish criminal." Kapner goes on to enumerate a list of questions which further his anti-Semitic views. He wrote, "First of all, how many 'isolated incidents' regarding Wall Street shysters and financial crooks of all stripes does it take to establish the fact of Jewish greed? How many on the planet, even reputable Jews, have been defrauded and victimized by Jewish greed? How many could tell of their own experiences of being duped, lied to, conned and ripped-off by unscrupulous Jews? Tens of millions? More?" Kapner concludes his article by arguing that "like Bernard Madoff, World Zionist Jewry clearly basks in the largesse of "Jewish greed" and keep its often ill-gotten wealth, parasitized from the Gentiles who host them, within their own elitist group…

[link to archive.adl.org]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 33186634
United States
01/28/2013 11:01 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
....how do the adl shills explain how JEWS like nathaniel kapner ( check out his vids on rense) AGREE that the jews are the instigators of all the worlds trouble??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3693196


They do it like this...

"Brother" Nathanael Kapner, a virulently anti-Semitic figure, wrote an article on his anti-Jewish Web site Real Jew News entitled, "Is Madoff a Symbol of Jewish Greed?" In the piece, Kapner alleged that Madoff "only had to endure house arrest" because he is a "Jewish criminal." Kapner goes on to enumerate a list of questions which further his anti-Semitic views. He wrote, "First of all, how many 'isolated incidents' regarding Wall Street shysters and financial crooks of all stripes does it take to establish the fact of Jewish greed? How many on the planet, even reputable Jews, have been defrauded and victimized by Jewish greed? How many could tell of their own experiences of being duped, lied to, conned and ripped-off by unscrupulous Jews? Tens of millions? More?" Kapner concludes his article by arguing that "like Bernard Madoff, World Zionist Jewry clearly basks in the largesse of "Jewish greed" and keep its often ill-gotten wealth, parasitized from the Gentiles who host them, within their own elitist group…

[link to archive.adl.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24068510


Anonymous Coward
User ID: 26270598
United States
01/28/2013 11:07 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
THis is a damn tissue of lies!

Lies I tell you!



Ok, well maybe.
mikebo2

User ID: 18012248
United States
01/28/2013 11:07 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
I live in Oklahoma and this is the first I have heard of this.

I don't doubt it though.

As a "JEW" living in Oklahoma I have run across many idiots like this that take the easy way out and blame the Jews.

By the way... most Okies are not the ignorant morons that the media and others like to portray. Just like the Jews are not behind every conspiracy that many people like to believe.
 Quoting: mikebo2


No, most of us are not. On the other side of the coin....

There are large groups of people that control the media and banking industries that have either stolen Jewish names or are rogue operatives working against the good ones.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32555522


Congrats, you have joined the group of people that needed someone to blame and you chose the Jews. Congratulations.

Yes, I(as a Jew) am secretly controlling all of the media and I am making you fight wars for me.

What ever helps you sleep at night dude. More power to you.
 Quoting: mikebo2


It seems to upset you that people are starting to realize the common denominator in all of this... It's a shame that you can't see it too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33200583


Yes,... you're right. I'm busted.
I, the Jew have caused all your problems.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 24068510
United States
01/28/2013 11:20 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
...


No, most of us are not. On the other side of the coin....

There are large groups of people that control the media and banking industries that have either stolen Jewish names or are rogue operatives working against the good ones.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32555522


Congrats, you have joined the group of people that needed someone to blame and you chose the Jews. Congratulations.

Yes, I(as a Jew) am secretly controlling all of the media and I am making you fight wars for me.

What ever helps you sleep at night dude. More power to you.
 Quoting: mikebo2


It seems to upset you that people are starting to realize the common denominator in all of this... It's a shame that you can't see it too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33200583


Yes,... you're right. I'm busted.
I, the Jew have caused all your problems.
 Quoting: mikebo2


It's funny how you're driven to defend the criminal element in your tribe, no matter what, just because they're members of your tribe.

I've never been able to understand that mentality at all.

ASSUMING that you're being honest with us, why in the world would you be rushing to the defense of these guys, when they're obviously (or seemingly obviously anyway) working against your own interests?

Just what is it that you think you owe this bunch?
TXGal4Truth

User ID: 27731122
United States
01/28/2013 11:33 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
Hey OP tell me what u think about this.

For some reason I don't think you'll read the whole thing.

JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF GUN OWNERSHIP


Why Jews Hate Guns
Are they right?
And who are The Shomrim?


It’s no secret that one of the largest blocs of people pressing for so-called “gun control” is the culturally (aka not-so-religious) American Jewish community. This confounds many observers who would expect that Jews, with such a stunning history of oppression and murder by humanity’s villains, would cling tenaciously to personal firearms and the ability to protect themselves as the Hebrew Scriptures instruct.
In reaction to the Holocaust, American Jews adopted the phrase “Never Again!” If actions mean anything, they don’t believe it. That’s for someone else to do. How do Jews expect to put teeth behind the words “Never Again!” if not with the ability to apply and project personal force when righteous -- and necessary -- for survival?
Why then do so many American Jews hate guns and fear gun ownership so much?
Our research identifies ten reasons why these Jews feel the way they do about self defense in general, firearms specifically and your own right to keep and bear arms.
The adamantly anti-gun-rights Jews are bowing to:
1. A desire for utopian moral purity
2. A disproportional incidence of hoplophobia
3. A quest for power through victimization of peers
4. A utopian delusion that if guns would just “go away,”
crime would end and the world would be a peaceful safe place
5. Self hatred and a wish to be helpless, acting out guilt-based
behavioral problems that develop in childhood
6. The Ostrich Syndrome
7. Garden-variety hypocrisy
8. Adulterated religion -- Jews In Name Only (JINOs)
9. Feel-good sophistry
10. Abject fear that yields irrational behavior
Despite the modern American Jewish aversion to arms, it has not always been so, and Israeli Jews certainly understand the value of arms. Throughout history, there were Jews who fought in defense of their people and way of life. The Torah is filled with Jews who took up arms in righteous and valiant defensive action. See, for example, The Ten Commandments of Self Defense, (Bendory and JPFO, 2009); or recall, “When Abraham heard that his nephew Lot was taken captive, he took the 318 trained soldiers of his house and pursued the captors,” defeated them, brought back Lot, and exacted retribution with their looted property. (Genesis 14:14)
Contemporary Jews may have largely acquiesced to their WWII inquisitors, but Biblical Jews resisted their Egyptian slave masters and then fought countless fierce battles against invaders and anti-Semites, such as Amelek, the Philistines and Haman.
Jews have been assaulted, accosted, and oppressed by nearly every nation and empire in history, including the ancient Greeks, Romans, Persians, Byzantines, Ottomans and of course modern nations like Germany and the USSR.
Miraculously, Jews have outlasted all those who would annihilate them, typically by using force of arms. Perhaps their liberal modern approach to assault and suffering -- “Don’t fight back, it will only make matters worse” -- holds lessons for us. Or perhaps not: it is very hard to witness open-pit graves piled high with emaciated corpses without emotional revulsion. How much worse could matters get?
“Culturally proper” Jews will not want to openly face the tortured reasoning of their Faustian bargain behind “don’t make it worse.” That doesn’t make the following reasons any less real or mortally dangerous. And Jews are not alone in relying on these justifications for rejecting the fundamental human right of self defense. Many other gunless people will also recognize their feelings accurately described by what we have found.
We would not dream of interfering with a free person’s freedom to choose and embrace defenselessness or to go gunless. On the other hand, there can be no tolerance for anyone who attempts to force others to behave so dangerously.

1. A desire for utopian moral purity
This seems to be the nub. Devin Sper, author of The Future of Israel (SY Publishing, 2004), supported by exhaustive research on the history of the Jewish people, has found that Jews are wont to seek utopian moral purity, and in doing so they reject use of force. By its very nature force corrupts and polarizes. With power and force come allies and adversaries. Taking sides, even righteous sides, conflicts with utopian egalitarianism. As the phrases indicate, these utopian ideals are unattainable.
Although such a rejection of personal power and righteous use of force seems irrational -- especially for groups repeatedly murdered by governments and threatened with annihilation -- it is a choice they are free to make. Using diverse strategies Jews have survived every attempt to exterminate them while their tormenters have vanished. In Mark Twain’s classic words:
“The Egyptian, the Babylonian, and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away; the Greek and the Roman followed, and made a vast noise, and they are gone; other peoples have sprung up and held their torch high for a time, but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, or have vanished. The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was ... ”
We must remind ourselves that Twain wrote this well before the Holocaust. Would his words have been different had he witnessed the government-run atrocities of the 20th century?
Sper documents the fact that the main Jewish texts, the Torah and Hebrew Scripture, are sometimes violent texts that exhort followers to take up arms in many contexts, and tell stories of vast militia and armed actions by the Jewish tribes. Sper points out that many modern Jews -- especially liberal Jews -- ignore parts of the Torah they don’t like, such as this militarism. See, for example, Esther 8:15 – 9:18, where Jews obliterate their enemies; and when asked what to do the next day, Esther says more of the same. And for good measure, impale the ten killed sons of evil vizier Haman on stakes. In place of this Biblical claim to righteous use of force, contemporary American Jews have constructed a plain-vanilla substitute that is mostly froth and dragons.
Even the annual Passover retelling of the escape from slavery in Egypt glosses over the horrors of slavery and war to the point of a Grimm’s fairy tale -- horrifying if you look at it literally and in full detail, but diluted into a story safe for children, complete with drips of sweet wine to soften the gore and savagery.
Before condemning Jews for hypocrisy in forgetting their history, recognize that many religions similarly gloss over aspects of their sacred texts that don’t mix well with their modern sensibilities. How many Biblical literalists cleave to the elements of, say, Leviticus, with its calls for stoning certain women to death (20:27), burning certain daughters (21:9) or instructions on how to manage your slaves (25:45-46)?

[link to jpfo.org]
So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16
************************************
“Gravity explains the motions of the planets, but it cannot explain who sets the planets in motion.” ~Isaac Newton
************************************
We are called to be BOLD. ~Joshua 1:9~
************************************
You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed.

tgdmwt
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 27571238
United States
01/28/2013 11:41 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
Actually, the gun bans here in the U.S. are being pushed by the U.N., which is foaming at the mouth to clinch their global government, imho.

Jews are definately involved, because most have left God behind for their traditions of men, and for Socialism/Marxism, and are more into the occult now and anything that is anti Jesus. But they are not the only ones. The occultists that are working with the U.N. and for the globalist gov. come from all across the spectrum of Luciferians and Pagans from many nations.

I used to be extremely pro Israel and was programmed to make excuses for the Jews for everything that anyone ever brought up, but...no more. I guess you could say... "Never Again".

I've come to the conclusion that it's time to leave them all to the God who gave them the boot out of The Land 2000 years ago, because they had already left Him behind for their babylonian occultic crap, and let Him do as He sees fit with them all.

He knows who His 'remnant' is.

Judgement Day is coming for the whole earth. No one will be exempt.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 24068510
United States
01/28/2013 11:44 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
Hey OP tell me what u think about this.

For some reason I don't think you'll read the whole thing.

JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF GUN OWNERSHIP


Why Jews Hate Guns
Are they right?
And who are The Shomrim?


It’s no secret that one of the largest blocs of people pressing for so-called “gun control” is the culturally (aka not-so-religious) American Jewish community. This confounds many observers who would expect that Jews, with such a stunning history of oppression and murder by humanity’s villains, would cling tenaciously to personal firearms and the ability to protect themselves as the Hebrew Scriptures instruct.
In reaction to the Holocaust, American Jews adopted the phrase “Never Again!” If actions mean anything, they don’t believe it. That’s for someone else to do. How do Jews expect to put teeth behind the words “Never Again!” if not with the ability to apply and project personal force when righteous -- and necessary -- for survival?
Why then do so many American Jews hate guns and fear gun ownership so much?
Our research identifies ten reasons why these Jews feel the way they do about self defense in general, firearms specifically and your own right to keep and bear arms.
The adamantly anti-gun-rights Jews are bowing to:
1. A desire for utopian moral purity
2. A disproportional incidence of hoplophobia
3. A quest for power through victimization of peers
4. A utopian delusion that if guns would just “go away,”
crime would end and the world would be a peaceful safe place
5. Self hatred and a wish to be helpless, acting out guilt-based
behavioral problems that develop in childhood
6. The Ostrich Syndrome
7. Garden-variety hypocrisy
8. Adulterated religion -- Jews In Name Only (JINOs)
9. Feel-good sophistry
10. Abject fear that yields irrational behavior
Despite the modern American Jewish aversion to arms, it has not always been so, and Israeli Jews certainly understand the value of arms. Throughout history, there were Jews who fought in defense of their people and way of life. The Torah is filled with Jews who took up arms in righteous and valiant defensive action. See, for example, The Ten Commandments of Self Defense, (Bendory and JPFO, 2009); or recall, “When Abraham heard that his nephew Lot was taken captive, he took the 318 trained soldiers of his house and pursued the captors,” defeated them, brought back Lot, and exacted retribution with their looted property. (Genesis 14:14)
Contemporary Jews may have largely acquiesced to their WWII inquisitors, but Biblical Jews resisted their Egyptian slave masters and then fought countless fierce battles against invaders and anti-Semites, such as Amelek, the Philistines and Haman.
Jews have been assaulted, accosted, and oppressed by nearly every nation and empire in history, including the ancient Greeks, Romans, Persians, Byzantines, Ottomans and of course modern nations like Germany and the USSR.
Miraculously, Jews have outlasted all those who would annihilate them, typically by using force of arms. Perhaps their liberal modern approach to assault and suffering -- “Don’t fight back, it will only make matters worse” -- holds lessons for us. Or perhaps not: it is very hard to witness open-pit graves piled high with emaciated corpses without emotional revulsion. How much worse could matters get?
“Culturally proper” Jews will not want to openly face the tortured reasoning of their Faustian bargain behind “don’t make it worse.” That doesn’t make the following reasons any less real or mortally dangerous. And Jews are not alone in relying on these justifications for rejecting the fundamental human right of self defense. Many other gunless people will also recognize their feelings accurately described by what we have found.
We would not dream of interfering with a free person’s freedom to choose and embrace defenselessness or to go gunless. On the other hand, there can be no tolerance for anyone who attempts to force others to behave so dangerously.

1. A desire for utopian moral purity
This seems to be the nub. Devin Sper, author of The Future of Israel (SY Publishing, 2004), supported by exhaustive research on the history of the Jewish people, has found that Jews are wont to seek utopian moral purity, and in doing so they reject use of force. By its very nature force corrupts and polarizes. With power and force come allies and adversaries. Taking sides, even righteous sides, conflicts with utopian egalitarianism. As the phrases indicate, these utopian ideals are unattainable.
Although such a rejection of personal power and righteous use of force seems irrational -- especially for groups repeatedly murdered by governments and threatened with annihilation -- it is a choice they are free to make. Using diverse strategies Jews have survived every attempt to exterminate them while their tormenters have vanished. In Mark Twain’s classic words:
“The Egyptian, the Babylonian, and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away; the Greek and the Roman followed, and made a vast noise, and they are gone; other peoples have sprung up and held their torch high for a time, but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, or have vanished. The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was ... ”
We must remind ourselves that Twain wrote this well before the Holocaust. Would his words have been different had he witnessed the government-run atrocities of the 20th century?
Sper documents the fact that the main Jewish texts, the Torah and Hebrew Scripture, are sometimes violent texts that exhort followers to take up arms in many contexts, and tell stories of vast militia and armed actions by the Jewish tribes. Sper points out that many modern Jews -- especially liberal Jews -- ignore parts of the Torah they don’t like, such as this militarism. See, for example, Esther 8:15 – 9:18, where Jews obliterate their enemies; and when asked what to do the next day, Esther says more of the same. And for good measure, impale the ten killed sons of evil vizier Haman on stakes. In place of this Biblical claim to righteous use of force, contemporary American Jews have constructed a plain-vanilla substitute that is mostly froth and dragons.
Even the annual Passover retelling of the escape from slavery in Egypt glosses over the horrors of slavery and war to the point of a Grimm’s fairy tale -- horrifying if you look at it literally and in full detail, but diluted into a story safe for children, complete with drips of sweet wine to soften the gore and savagery.
Before condemning Jews for hypocrisy in forgetting their history, recognize that many religions similarly gloss over aspects of their sacred texts that don’t mix well with their modern sensibilities. How many Biblical literalists cleave to the elements of, say, Leviticus, with its calls for stoning certain women to death (20:27), burning certain daughters (21:9) or instructions on how to manage your slaves (25:45-46)?

[link to jpfo.org]
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


I've not only read that whole thing, I've posted it right here on this forum.

Along with the video they created.

-----------------------------------------------------

Now. You tell me why Mr. Bloomberg, Mz Feinstien, Mr. Schumer, and all their little bootlicking gentile friends in our government are so eager to disarm the American people, in spite of what our friends in the JPFO have to say.

For extra points, you can tell me why we're supposed to pretend this isn't happening, and why we're supposed to ignore the fact that the prime movers behind this attack on our constitution and our Bill of Rights are Jews.

You tell me that, please.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 24068510
United States
01/28/2013 11:50 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
Should I hold my breath while I wait for your reply?
TXGal4Truth

User ID: 27731122
United States
01/28/2013 11:52 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
Hey OP tell me what u think about this.

For some reason I don't think you'll read the whole thing.

JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF GUN OWNERSHIP


Why Jews Hate Guns
Are they right?
And who are The Shomrim?


It’s no secret that one of the largest blocs of people pressing for so-called “gun control” is the culturally (aka not-so-religious) American Jewish community. This confounds many observers who would expect that Jews, with such a stunning history of oppression and murder by humanity’s villains, would cling tenaciously to personal firearms and the ability to protect themselves as the Hebrew Scriptures instruct.
In reaction to the Holocaust, American Jews adopted the phrase “Never Again!” If actions mean anything, they don’t believe it. That’s for someone else to do. How do Jews expect to put teeth behind the words “Never Again!” if not with the ability to apply and project personal force when righteous -- and necessary -- for survival?
Why then do so many American Jews hate guns and fear gun ownership so much?
Our research identifies ten reasons why these Jews feel the way they do about self defense in general, firearms specifically and your own right to keep and bear arms.
The adamantly anti-gun-rights Jews are bowing to:
1. A desire for utopian moral purity
2. A disproportional incidence of hoplophobia
3. A quest for power through victimization of peers
4. A utopian delusion that if guns would just “go away,”
crime would end and the world would be a peaceful safe place
5. Self hatred and a wish to be helpless, acting out guilt-based
behavioral problems that develop in childhood
6. The Ostrich Syndrome
7. Garden-variety hypocrisy
8. Adulterated religion -- Jews In Name Only (JINOs)
9. Feel-good sophistry
10. Abject fear that yields irrational behavior
Despite the modern American Jewish aversion to arms, it has not always been so, and Israeli Jews certainly understand the value of arms. Throughout history, there were Jews who fought in defense of their people and way of life. The Torah is filled with Jews who took up arms in righteous and valiant defensive action. See, for example, The Ten Commandments of Self Defense, (Bendory and JPFO, 2009); or recall, “When Abraham heard that his nephew Lot was taken captive, he took the 318 trained soldiers of his house and pursued the captors,” defeated them, brought back Lot, and exacted retribution with their looted property. (Genesis 14:14)
Contemporary Jews may have largely acquiesced to their WWII inquisitors, but Biblical Jews resisted their Egyptian slave masters and then fought countless fierce battles against invaders and anti-Semites, such as Amelek, the Philistines and Haman.
Jews have been assaulted, accosted, and oppressed by nearly every nation and empire in history, including the ancient Greeks, Romans, Persians, Byzantines, Ottomans and of course modern nations like Germany and the USSR.
Miraculously, Jews have outlasted all those who would annihilate them, typically by using force of arms. Perhaps their liberal modern approach to assault and suffering -- “Don’t fight back, it will only make matters worse” -- holds lessons for us. Or perhaps not: it is very hard to witness open-pit graves piled high with emaciated corpses without emotional revulsion. How much worse could matters get?
“Culturally proper” Jews will not want to openly face the tortured reasoning of their Faustian bargain behind “don’t make it worse.” That doesn’t make the following reasons any less real or mortally dangerous. And Jews are not alone in relying on these justifications for rejecting the fundamental human right of self defense. Many other gunless people will also recognize their feelings accurately described by what we have found.
We would not dream of interfering with a free person’s freedom to choose and embrace defenselessness or to go gunless. On the other hand, there can be no tolerance for anyone who attempts to force others to behave so dangerously.

1. A desire for utopian moral purity
This seems to be the nub. Devin Sper, author of The Future of Israel (SY Publishing, 2004), supported by exhaustive research on the history of the Jewish people, has found that Jews are wont to seek utopian moral purity, and in doing so they reject use of force. By its very nature force corrupts and polarizes. With power and force come allies and adversaries. Taking sides, even righteous sides, conflicts with utopian egalitarianism. As the phrases indicate, these utopian ideals are unattainable.
Although such a rejection of personal power and righteous use of force seems irrational -- especially for groups repeatedly murdered by governments and threatened with annihilation -- it is a choice they are free to make. Using diverse strategies Jews have survived every attempt to exterminate them while their tormenters have vanished. In Mark Twain’s classic words:
“The Egyptian, the Babylonian, and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away; the Greek and the Roman followed, and made a vast noise, and they are gone; other peoples have sprung up and held their torch high for a time, but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, or have vanished. The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was ... ”
We must remind ourselves that Twain wrote this well before the Holocaust. Would his words have been different had he witnessed the government-run atrocities of the 20th century?
Sper documents the fact that the main Jewish texts, the Torah and Hebrew Scripture, are sometimes violent texts that exhort followers to take up arms in many contexts, and tell stories of vast militia and armed actions by the Jewish tribes. Sper points out that many modern Jews -- especially liberal Jews -- ignore parts of the Torah they don’t like, such as this militarism. See, for example, Esther 8:15 – 9:18, where Jews obliterate their enemies; and when asked what to do the next day, Esther says more of the same. And for good measure, impale the ten killed sons of evil vizier Haman on stakes. In place of this Biblical claim to righteous use of force, contemporary American Jews have constructed a plain-vanilla substitute that is mostly froth and dragons.
Even the annual Passover retelling of the escape from slavery in Egypt glosses over the horrors of slavery and war to the point of a Grimm’s fairy tale -- horrifying if you look at it literally and in full detail, but diluted into a story safe for children, complete with drips of sweet wine to soften the gore and savagery.
Before condemning Jews for hypocrisy in forgetting their history, recognize that many religions similarly gloss over aspects of their sacred texts that don’t mix well with their modern sensibilities. How many Biblical literalists cleave to the elements of, say, Leviticus, with its calls for stoning certain women to death (20:27), burning certain daughters (21:9) or instructions on how to manage your slaves (25:45-46)?

[link to jpfo.org]
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


I've not only read that whole thing, I've posted it right here on this forum.

Along with the video they created.

-----------------------------------------------------

Now. You tell me why Mr. Bloomberg, Mz Feinstien, Mr. Schumer, and all their little bootlicking gentile friends in our government are so eager to disarm the American people, in spite of what our friends in the JPFO have to say.

For extra points, you can tell me why we're supposed to pretend this isn't happening, and why we're supposed to ignore the fact that the prime movers behind this attack on our constitution and our Bill of Rights are Jews.

You tell me that, please.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24068510


Sure I'll answer as soon as u answer why Obamas senior advisor is an Iranian born Muslim.

Also, don't forget that some of the tip gun manufacturers are owned by the scary JOOS.

Ya know, I spoke to two of my good friends from Israel last Thursday. Their words to me? Don't let them disarm you.

It's not the JOOS sweetie. It's the Jesuits. The fucking Vatican which is the Antichrist spoken of in the bible. The FALSE JOOS.

You have much to learn friend.

Hosea 4:16
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge
So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16
************************************
“Gravity explains the motions of the planets, but it cannot explain who sets the planets in motion.” ~Isaac Newton
************************************
We are called to be BOLD. ~Joshua 1:9~
************************************
You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed.

tgdmwt
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 24068510
United States
01/28/2013 11:58 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
I take it that you will not be answering my question, but will be met with the usual song and dance instead.

That's exactly what I've come to expect from you people.

That is what we ALL have come to expect from you people.

Endless bullshit.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 33186634
United States
01/29/2013 12:04 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
I am not going to stand for this anti-Catholic slander.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 33245995
01/29/2013 03:28 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
The Jew is the right hand of Lucifer! All Jews deserve a REAL Holocaust, not the lie that Jews have been milking for the last 70 years!

You need to take a shower, you filthy Jew bastards!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 14593095
United States
01/29/2013 03:32 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
There's a reason why Jews have been chased out by every culture wherever they settle. They are bad news. Maybe we should do the same?

They do vote 80% Spendocrats you know. Almost as bad as the nig nogs.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 31189143
Canada
01/29/2013 03:45 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
Others have argued that if the victims of the Holocaust had better access to guns, the Nazi regime would not have been able to systematically murder six million Jews and millions of others in the Holocaust.

 Quoting: Abe Foxman 24068510


^^ this x 10000000000000000
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 954113
Japan
01/29/2013 03:56 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
bump
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 33186634
United States
01/29/2013 04:01 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
Others have argued that if the victims of the Holocaust had better access to guns, the Nazi regime would not have been able to systematically murder six million Jews and millions of others in the Holocaust.

 Quoting: Abe Foxman 24068510


^^ this x 10000000000000000
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31189143


goodmockingbird
Home of the EF5 Tornados, Now with Beheading!

User ID: 29124333
United States
01/29/2013 04:10 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
I live in Oklahoma and this is the first I have heard of this.

I don't doubt it though.

As a "JEW" living in Oklahoma I have run across many idiots like this that take the easy way out and blame the Jews.

By the way... most Okies are not the ignorant morons that the media and others like to portray. Just like the Jews are not behind every conspiracy that many people like to believe.
 Quoting: mikebo2


Fellow Oklahoman here.

Our state is usually among the best so far as treating people as individuals, rather than simply as members of an ethnic group.

Oklahoma was settled by extremely individualistic people, rather than by 'blocs' of people.

But one thing I have figured out about our state is that it is fairly normal for people to hold one set of sterotypical ideas about classes of people somewhere else (usually 'back east'), but clearly and strongly define an individual of that heritage here in Oklahoma only according to his personality.

Thus, an Oklahoman can rant and rave all day about "Ay-rabs" as nothing but frothing at the mouth baby-rapers. But you better not insult his friend Jamal, who happens to have come from Egypt or Syria.

"Jews from back east" can likewise be typified as greedy people of low characters, at fault for all kinds of problems. But you better not include some local person -- who happens to be of Jewish heritage -- in that group, because he as an individual is a good guy.

All sorts of evil can safely be attributed to groups of people somewhere else (back east) but somehow magically they do not apply to individuals of that heritage who have exhibitted the individualism necessary to come put down roots here as an Oklahoman.

You're both entirely right, and entirely wrong, about how Oklahomans view ethnic groups.

We can hate somebody as a group, but like, respect, and accept as one of our own, someone from that group who becomes one of us.
covington.13

User ID: 32853339
United States
01/29/2013 04:16 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
Bloomberg, Schumer, Eichenwald, Feinstein, Lautenberg, Blumenthal, Boxer(nee Levy), Lieberman, Israel, Foxman....it looks like the guest list for a Bar Mitzvah!

For those of you who don't believe there's a very disproportionate amount of support for gun control among Jews, just check out this article by America's leading Jewish newspaper, The Jewish Daily Forward.



After Newtown, Jews Lead Renewed Push on Guns
Lawmakers and Community Play Key Role in Debate

By Nathan Guttman

[link to forward.com]


interesting snippets:

"A Jewish community strongly supportive of gun control plus Jewish lawmakers eager to enact new gun control laws may bring Jews into a lead role as the nation debates federal measures to rein in mass murders at its malls and schools."


"On Capitol Hill, the effort to introduce legislation limiting access to weapons has been led by several Jewish lawmakers, all Democrats (though one now uses the Independent label). California Senator Dianne Feinstein, a longtime leader on the issue, intends to introduce legislation for renewing the ban on the sale and possession of assault weapons, which expired in 2004."



'Rabbi Eric Yoffie, former head of the Reform movement, listed in a recent Haaretz article several reasons for Jews siding with supporters of gun control: the community’s affiliation with the Democratic Party; the fact that Jews are urban people and detached from the culture of hunting or gun ownership, and suspicion toward the NRA, which is “associated in the minds of many Jews with extremist positions that frighten Jews and from which they instinctively recoil.” '

Last Edited by covington.13 on 01/29/2013 04:22 AM
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 954113
Japan
01/29/2013 05:42 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
bump
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 29363518
United States
01/29/2013 06:06 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
The folks from Oklahoma are completely correct.

Chuck Schumer.
Diane Feinstein.
Steve Israel.
Barbara Boxer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33186634


5a

The Okies and you are purely STUPID or you have much darker motivation. You fail to mention the tens of members of both the House and Senate who have either directly sponsered or co sponsered this legislation and what their religious persuasions are. Why might that be my little moron monkey. I am a 2nd Amend supporter but this crap has no place here or any place else!
 Quoting: ANNONYMOUS 8415236


The media is owned and controlled by Jews. All left-wing non-White racial blocks receive their funding from Jewish sources. The non-White radical left is a creation of the Jews. The Hollywood filth culture of violence where American children literally see hundreds of thousands of simulated deaths [and in the case of video games, participate in them] before they are 18 years old in a creation of Jews.

All of our wars are in service of the Jews. American tax dollars flow by the billions to Israel so they can remain armed to the teeth, but Jewish groups here at home are near unanimous in their desire to remove guns from White people.

And then the only ones armed will be the ever-blackening government agencies and Masonic police departments spread throughout Zionist Occupied America. When that is achieved we will see a repeat of what the Jews did to the Russians, Poles, and Ukrainians in their orgy of blood lust known as the Bolshevik revolution.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33186634


Well said and completely true. The wanna be gods will only have it their way a short time though. It is written "for those days will shortened". I really feel for the 2/3 of the born again who will be cut off because they have believed a lie..they who are the true Israel have become the new "lost sheep", and have become the scriptural "false prophet" for the scriptural "beast" (that was, and was not [70 A.D.} and now is [since 1968])

The children of Scofield are rivers of poisoned water..Lindsay,LeHaye,Hagee ad infititum. We were warned..drink not of the waters of Babylon and yet so many have.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 26865673
United States
01/29/2013 06:52 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
The folks from Oklahoma are completely correct.

Chuck Schumer.
Diane Feinstein.
Steve Israel.
Barbara Boxer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33186634


5a

The Okies and you are purely STUPID or you have much darker motivation. You fail to mention the tens of members of both the House and Senate who have either directly sponsered or co sponsered this legislation and what their religious persuasions are. Why might that be my little moron monkey. I am a 2nd Amend supporter but this crap has no place here or any place else!
 Quoting: ANNONYMOUS 8415236


Search for companies that support Israel and the IDF. You'd be surprised how much of your money goes to ZIONISM!

& gun control has zionist scum written all over it.

Not only are we FUNDING them with every day purchases, they have a strong say in what goes in our country,
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 26865673
United States
01/29/2013 06:55 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
I live in Oklahoma and this is the first I have heard of this.

I don't doubt it though.

As a "JEW" living in Oklahoma I have run across many idiots like this that take the easy way out and blame the Jews.

By the way... most Okies are not the ignorant morons that the media and others like to portray. Just like the Jews are not behind every conspiracy that many people like to believe.
 Quoting: mikebo2


Fellow Oklahoman here.

Our state is usually among the best so far as treating people as individuals, rather than simply as members of an ethnic group.

Oklahoma was settled by extremely individualistic people, rather than by 'blocs' of people.

But one thing I have figured out about our state is that it is fairly normal for people to hold one set of sterotypical ideas about classes of people somewhere else (usually 'back east'), but clearly and strongly define an individual of that heritage here in Oklahoma only according to his personality.

Thus, an Oklahoman can rant and rave all day about "Ay-rabs" as nothing but frothing at the mouth baby-rapers. But you better not insult his friend Jamal, who happens to have come from Egypt or Syria.

"Jews from back east" can likewise be typified as greedy people of low characters, at fault for all kinds of problems. But you better not include some local person -- who happens to be of Jewish heritage -- in that group, because he as an individual is a good guy.

All sorts of evil can safely be attributed to groups of people somewhere else (back east) but somehow magically they do not apply to individuals of that heritage who have exhibitted the individualism necessary to come put down roots here as an Oklahoman.

You're both entirely right, and entirely wrong, about how Oklahomans view ethnic groups.

We can hate somebody as a group, but like, respect, and accept as one of our own, someone from that group who becomes one of us.
 Quoting: goodmockingbird


Fellow Okie here. Very true words my friend. We in Oklahoma have large ethnic groups that are all welcomed. In fact, I'm pretty surprised by it. Despite the gang violence that takes place in the cities, we're a very welcoming state.

There is a large Syrian & Jewish community in Tulsa.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 32302800
United Kingdom
01/29/2013 07:11 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
ADL Says Nazi Analogies Have No Place In Gun Control Debate
It's antisemitic.
 Quoting: Abe Foxman 24068510


Thats because the Germans only wanted the german people who where not communist subversives having guns,jews were the ones who fell into communist subversive because of what was happening in russia and the fact jews declared war and demanded a boycott worldwide on german products,you could go deeper into the mechanics of what was going on but you all get the gist of it.

If it was not for WW2 Europe would have certainly fell to communism 70+ years ago,germany was just a speed bump to that.

Will you let them complete their bolshevik revolution 2.0 in America.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 24068510
United States
01/29/2013 07:25 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
ADL Says Nazi Analogies Have No Place In Gun Control Debate
It's antisemitic.
 Quoting: Abe Foxman 24068510


Thats because the Germans only wanted the german people who where not communist subversives having guns,jews were the ones who fell into communist subversive because of what was happening in russia and the fact jews declared war and demanded a boycott worldwide on german products,you could go deeper into the mechanics of what was going on but you all get the gist of it.

If it was not for WW2 Europe would have certainly fell to communism 70+ years ago,germany was just a speed bump to that.

Will you let them complete their bolshevik revolution 2.0 in America.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32302800


It would be antisemitic if we didn't!
PhilippinoBob

User ID: 16604126
Philippines
01/29/2013 07:27 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Oklahoma Anti-Immigrant Group Blames Jews For Promoting Gun Control
Jews know very well the history.
They know it better than the average American does.
They know the TRUE HISTORY and they also know that the rest of us are also finding out the TRUE HISTORY despite of 70 years of brainwashing.
In my opinion there is no secret who is behind the gun-ban!
PhilippinoBob

News