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HELP: How to wake up the average American???

 
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Shills eat a preemptive dick.


First thread here, alleged "theorist" since the age of 14. Found the site during the 2012 hysteria, got addicted, checked it daily since. Now that we're all acquainted, let's get personal. A nigh-constant source of frustration and sadness in my life has been my inability to reach a single non-believer in my time as a de-brain slugged individual on this planet. There is no pain quite like watching the date draw ever-closer and knowing that your loved ones will take the mark if they don't simply wake the fuck up. God has blessed me with a talent for speech and putting words together but we're dealing with people who deny the temperature discrepancy between the burning points of jet fuel and structural steel ffs.

Therefore I struggle to isolate hard, obvious, you must be blind to deny this, FACT. (You know, like burning points of industrial materials heavily regulated for consistency?) So my question to you is what individual bits of hard, irrefutable evidence do we have, regardless of subject. I'm not talking things like Sandy Hook "parents" appearing chipper. Not super-plausible conjecture. Science, testimony, vids/pics, etc. Will compile a personal list, would in this thread but I am NOT a member so I can't edit my posts. Off top I have these:

-blown-up grassy knoll pics/Kennedy's head clearly snapping backwards
-jet fuel temp/freeze frames of windows blowing out/WTC bldg 7
-vertical slit-like pupils in world's elite (go watch AC360)
-bohemian grove's yearbook photos with past, present and future presidents
-Aurora shooter's mask on opposite side of theater lot from "shooter's" car
-tons of ignored cables warning of Pearl Harbor
-Sandy Hook nurse's interview on the Lanza's/footage of guns removed from car/Carver's "long gun wounds" becoming pistol wounds


What else? This is an earnest plea from a guy who wants nothing more than to arm his loved ones and whoever else will listen with the weapon of knowledge. Also any tactics for presenting it? Reverse psychology.. Hypnotism.. Benign Monarchification?!? I'm seriously having a rough time. I just want to help people. Any suggestions from non-professional posters is more than welcomed. May love resonate with you all. What I love about this site is not even the info. Good people inhabit this place. Help a brother out GLP. Peace to everyone.
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some people may disagree but i have woken a few people with the show, jesse venturas conspiracy theories. it made them do extra research on some topics and eventually awaken.
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I think Obama's doing a pretty good job of it, all by himself.
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Just so you know kind of what you're up against....

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I think Obama's doing a pretty good job of it, all by himself.
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Yep.

The Obama Deception film on Youtube is what woke me up.
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Best video imo.
[link to www.youtube.com]
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Thanks for the replies. Jazz, am glad you mentioned that show. The production style is laughably sensationalist, but things like interviewing the man who invented the tech for the "voice of god" weapons and sneaking into that hangar in the Ozarks are damn solid proof.

As far as Obama doing it himself? Yeah, in a get pissed, revolt, invite martial law ie play into our hands sort of way. I need something less scripted, but he's doing more accidental good than he realizes, yes.
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Act like you are stupid and find something very telling, for one of those ones that aren't awake to help you understand it.

Even if you already know something, it is better to let them lead after a little push in the right direction. They aren't stupid people, they are just not paying the right attention to some facts. So, if they are the ones to help you try to understand it, the ball is in their court.

I have done this for years, they wouldn't listen, until I shut up and asked them to help little old me. Now they won't stop telling me what I already know, but that is the price you have to pay for doing it.
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Umm OP, maybe there's a reason why your friends don't want to listen to your insane ramblings about God knows what?
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Just so you know kind of what you're up against....


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Watched this a bit ago. Utterly fascinating but gutwrenching at once. There are times when I put aside my indignation and MARVEL from a wholly analytical standpoint at the black-comical lengths we apes (and lizards) will go to for a few decades of fleeting power on this blue rock of a planet. Damn man.

To the other guy with the embed, thanks so much to you as well. Haven't seen that one yet, will watch tomorrow.

On an unrelated note (do any two topics of this sort not relate really?) I'd say another bit of info to put in stone would be some of the more obvious ritual performances at award shows/music vids. Will have to dig them up though so if anyone has any BLATANT ones off hand, please say so. I know madonna's last super bowl show was a great example but I'm talking like ram heads and fake blood and shit. Things even a sheep might baa at.
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Umm OP, maybe there's a reason why your friends don't want to listen to your insane ramblings about God knows what?
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Umm shill, how'd that preemptive dick taste?


Daughter, that's really very interesting. Will most definitely play with that notion and see if I can't get some accidental truth discovered. Any specific tips past what you mentioned? Thanks so much.
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A nice backhanded slap placed precisely below the cheek bone should do it.
"I fear not the insane. I fear the ones who believe there is such a thing as normal."
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Alarm clock.
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Alarm clock.
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Ba-zing.

Thanks for the rates guys, I appreciate that! Also still mildly stoked to have gotten my first shill. Cheers to douches getting paid to disagree with you. Wish Trinity would pay me to go to Obama's press conferences and just scream "ONE STAR" before he even started talking.

Also, back on topic, am thinking that the respective patents for the aids vaccine and the psychotronic weapons can absolutely be put on a list of so-called conspiracy facts. Patents don't lie, and if there's one thing tptb love even more than deceiving us, it's protecting their financial interests. Anyone know of any other cases of patents existing on items in the realm of conspiracy? Thanks guys.. Everyone take care.
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Here are words of wisdom for you:

"If you show someone a glass of water with a sip left, and they drink that sip, THEN give them the whole cup."

It is a Chinese proverb.

When trying to show someone the truth, do not do any of these:

1.) Do NOT make it seem like you are trying to be "the correct one" in the "argument". Simply present the data, act very kind and appreciative of their opinion. When people watch TV, and go to college, all they see is the left right paradigm over and over, and DEBATERS. Debating is bad because guess what? Nobody learns anything from either side, because instead of presenting good data and trying to learn from each other, people listen to respond to whatever the other side just said.
I am sure you know this, but just to clarify it.

2.) Do NOT use any hot words, like conspiracy theory, terrorist, hoax, truther, or any other words that the mainstream media uses to discredit us. Instead, just explain your point and don't give it any kind of name.

3.) Do NOT try to push them to drink the whole cup of water. Present the facts and true data, and let it sink in.

Here is how I do it:
In conversation, constantly scan for a point of entry.
The topic MUST be brought up by them. When most people talk about mindless stuff, as average people tend to do, they will focus on a topic for a length of time, then it switches. That means if they mention anything to do with any part of method of delivery for your truth letting, you have to take it, quickly and accurately. Don't make it seem like you are butting in, say calmly for example "Yea, have you ever heard about the jet fuel in the twin towers? (other person: yes i did, that is how they fell down, the jet fuel went down the elevator shaft and weakened the steel)
You: "Yea, I heard that too. But the thing that I just can't figure out, is how the steel weakened the steel beams on the outer layers of the building. I have looked at how it is designed, there are 16 steel pillars, 8 in the center and then 8 around the outside." (at this point, when you feel it fits, leave awkward silence. This is a tactic used by FDA agents to try to get people to display information that they wouldn't have otherwise.)
Other person: "What do you mean? So you are saying that the jet fuel couldn't have taken them down?"
You: "Yea, I believe that something else must have done it."
Other person: "What did it then? Did the terrorists plant bombs?"
You: "Tell you what, there is a video online that explains all of it." (writes name down)
Then, next day, you ask them if they watched it. If they didn't, don't remind them to. Just say "oh ok" Don't even say "watch it when you get a chance", wait a few days to say that. Don't try to even force it 1% onto them.

Now, see how that went? You didn't use hot words, you didn't force information or your ideas on them, and you used conversation manipulation to get the right thought process going in them. It won't go perfect like that in real life, but you can get it pretty close if you are a quick thinker and good at social engineering.

But please, don't curse my friend... God has given you the gift of speech, and when you curse it ruins that gift.

hf Good luck!
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There is no way to 'wake up' anyone unless they have a contrasting context of information that they may wake up into. If waking up implies realizing the 'truth', then only the absolute truth may work to wake someone up from the sleep of a grand delusion. The first issue is that those who are claiming to be waking people up may not themselves be awake at all.

There is a percentage and remnant of the American people who are really and actually fully awake and enlightened with the truth. I would not put that number at even .01% of the total population. Nonetheless, they are there and always have been.

Many more are in the process of waking up, because there comes a time when each individual simply has to make a personal decision to leave general society and live in the Truth no matter what. There is no other way to Wake Up but to believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ, repent and be baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The reason is that it requires divine energy in order to wake up from this slumber of delusion and sin. For anyone else, they will simply never wake up to the degree that they must in order to affect real change on the grand scale in the world at large. The only way to escape the rings of aethyrs spun by the prince of the power of the Aire is to change the spiral energy in the God Spell. There is no other way to reverse the averse serpentine Energia but the Cross of Jesus Christ. There is no other Way!

I have told you the truth. You can choose to acknowledge that truth and cross the abyss to be reborn in the Spirit, or you can stay in Wonderland. It's your choice. I can't make it for you. I don't want to sound crass, but when you're up shit creek without a paddle, you need a new current and a new flow.



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You will not be able to wake up the vast majority of the sheeple. They are meant to be blissfully ignorant, and they have been this way throughout all of human history. Even when presented with undeniable evidence, they will bury their heads in the sand. Just take 9/11 as a good example.

I keep seeing a parallel to the time when the Conquistadors came to the Americas. The story is that the native Indians could not see the huge wooden ships these conquerors came in, even though the ships were right in front of their eyes, because their minds refused to accept that such things could exist. It took the Indians watching the waves of water lap up against these big boats for hours, days? before they began to see the wooden ships for themselves.

The best thing you can do is to get right with whatever you personally believe in, and hope the sheeple around you don't point the finger at you and turn you in to the authorities later.

The Universe, or God, or whatever you want to call it, is reserving people that are awake for some purpose that has not been revealed to us yet. Maybe we will be the ones who will pick up the pieces and reshape the world after all this is over, I don't know. What I do know, is that the shit has been hitting the fan ever since 9/11, and there's no sign of it slowing down yet.

Peace.
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Shills eat a preemptive dick.


First thread here, alleged "theorist" since the age of 14. Found the site during the 2012 hysteria, got addicted, checked it daily since. Now that we're all acquainted, let's get personal. A nigh-constant source of frustration and sadness in my life has been my inability to reach a single non-believer in my time as a de-brain slugged individual on this planet. There is no pain quite like watching the date draw ever-closer and knowing that your loved ones will take the mark if they don't simply wake the fuck up. God has blessed me with a talent for speech and putting words together but we're dealing with people who deny the temperature discrepancy between the burning points of jet fuel and structural steel ffs.

Therefore I struggle to isolate hard, obvious, you must be blind to deny this, FACT. (You know, like burning points of industrial materials heavily regulated for consistency?) So my question to you is what individual bits of hard, irrefutable evidence do we have, regardless of subject. I'm not talking things like Sandy Hook "parents" appearing chipper. Not super-plausible conjecture. Science, testimony, vids/pics, etc. Will compile a personal list, would in this thread but I am NOT a member so I can't edit my posts. Off top I have these:

-blown-up grassy knoll pics/Kennedy's head clearly snapping backwards
-jet fuel temp/freeze frames of windows blowing out/WTC bldg 7
-vertical slit-like pupils in world's elite (go watch AC360)
-bohemian grove's yearbook photos with past, present and future presidents
-Aurora shooter's mask on opposite side of theater lot from "shooter's" car
-tons of ignored cables warning of Pearl Harbor
-Sandy Hook nurse's interview on the Lanza's/footage of guns removed from car/Carver's "long gun wounds" becoming pistol wounds


What else? This is an earnest plea from a guy who wants nothing more than to arm his loved ones and whoever else will listen with the weapon of knowledge. Also any tactics for presenting it? Reverse psychology.. Hypnotism.. Benign Monarchification?!? I'm seriously having a rough time. I just want to help people. Any suggestions from non-professional posters is more than welcomed. May love resonate with you all. What I love about this site is not even the info. Good people inhabit this place. Help a brother out GLP. Peace to everyone.
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The public have been brain washed for so long, that it is going to take a long time to reverse the damage. The trick is to wear down there trust in the government. Feed them a little trickle of negative information over a year. I have been feeding my brother information about how the police are all thugs that are used to protect the Government & not the people for a while now. He has been refusing to agree until recently I show him the video of the guy who was shoot, I think, 11 times in the head on a subway train in London. I simply pointed out how much of a bloody mess putting 11 bullets into a mans head at point blank range would be & only a psychopath could possibly do that. I saw for the first time major fear in my brothers eyes. He tried to make a excuse for the cop with "He probably thought he had a bomb." Which I replied "Yeah, but 11 bullets". He knew I was right. Only an A grade psycho could do that. I think I finally destroyed the blissful ignorance that he enjoys so much.
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Best video imo.
[link to www.youtube.com]

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Agreed.
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5***** and It is now Pinned........
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Here are words of wisdom for you:

"If you show someone a glass of water with a sip left, and they drink that sip, THEN give them the whole cup."

It is a Chinese proverb.

When trying to show someone the truth, do not do any of these:

1.) Do NOT make it seem like you are trying to be "the correct one" in the "argument". Simply present the data, act very kind and appreciative of their opinion. When people watch TV, and go to college, all they see is the left right paradigm over and over, and DEBATERS. Debating is bad because guess what? Nobody learns anything from either side, because instead of presenting good data and trying to learn from each other, people listen to respond to whatever the other side just said.
I am sure you know this, but just to clarify it.

2.) Do NOT use any hot words, like conspiracy theory, terrorist, hoax, truther, or any other words that the mainstream media uses to discredit us. Instead, just explain your point and don't give it any kind of name.

3.) Do NOT try to push them to drink the whole cup of water. Present the facts and true data, and let it sink in.

Here is how I do it:
In conversation, constantly scan for a point of entry.
The topic MUST be brought up by them. When most people talk about mindless stuff, as average people tend to do, they will focus on a topic for a length of time, then it switches. That means if they mention anything to do with any part of method of delivery for your truth letting, you have to take it, quickly and accurately. Don't make it seem like you are butting in, say calmly for example "Yea, have you ever heard about the jet fuel in the twin towers? (other person: yes i did, that is how they fell down, the jet fuel went down the elevator shaft and weakened the steel)
You: "Yea, I heard that too. But the thing that I just can't figure out, is how the steel weakened the steel beams on the outer layers of the building. I have looked at how it is designed, there are 16 steel pillars, 8 in the center and then 8 around the outside." (at this point, when you feel it fits, leave awkward silence. This is a tactic used by FDA agents to try to get people to display information that they wouldn't have otherwise.)
Other person: "What do you mean? So you are saying that the jet fuel couldn't have taken them down?"
You: "Yea, I believe that something else must have done it."
Other person: "What did it then? Did the terrorists plant bombs?"
You: "Tell you what, there is a video online that explains all of it." (writes name down)
Then, next day, you ask them if they watched it. If they didn't, don't remind them to. Just say "oh ok" Don't even say "watch it when you get a chance", wait a few days to say that. Don't try to even force it 1% onto them.

Now, see how that went? You didn't use hot words, you didn't force information or your ideas on them, and you used conversation manipulation to get the right thought process going in them. It won't go perfect like that in real life, but you can get it pretty close if you are a quick thinker and good at social engineering.

But please, don't curse my friend... God has given you the gift of speech, and when you curse it ruins that gift.

hf Good luck!
Remember that proverb!
 Quoting: Brad Daylight


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Great Post and Thread!

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nothing specific to add but this is an excellent thread OP. I only learned about conspiracy by age 18 so I can't imagine getting into research at 14. but hey we all get into it at some point.

If I remember correctly there is some excellent information regarding the 9.0 earthquake off Japan in 2011. An ex-NSA whistleblower has conducted some interviews which are all over YouTube and he talks about a nuclear device being used to simulate an earthquake. He posts a lot of scientific evidence to back this up.

His name is "Jim Stone Freelance" and you can google for results, there is so much information I could not post it all up now. I will save this thread to add some stuff later if possible. But when this happened I was all over his info like clockwork and he makes multiple valid points - no structural damage, no houses collapsed. the powerplant fukushima lost electricity before the tsunami even hit which suggests a virus (stuxnet) was used.

here is a quick video I could find but there are loads more

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Alarm clock wired up to semtex?
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he has a page on his website dedicated to explaining this information.

it's worth a glance over the graphics and charts which he explains in more detail.

jimstonefreelance [dot]com / fukushima.html
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Hope this helps:

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Some people don't want to wake up; My Mother told me she would rather have her head in the sand...wtf
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Look up operation northwoods and show them what that was all about. Declassified docs from the jcos to Kennedy about false flag plans. A real smoking gun and proof of how our govt works and what they are capable of. Also look up the book "the final jihad" which tells the story of the Oklahoma City bombing -- two years before it happened, and written by the governer of oklahomas brother!
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hfbump
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Another version:
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Posted this set of six vids the other day, included the topics

Thread: "Conspiracy Theorist" A Deragatory Title to Dismiss a Critical Thinker. (Look inside!)
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Pray.
Arm yourself with the Word of God.
You need a deep understanding of it.
The Holy Spirit will bring remembrance of all
relevant scripture.
Pray.

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