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Quantum mechanics show that there is NO MASS...and thats a gamechanger

 
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And I thought the american school system was bad. You sir, are an idiot. Of course there is mass, I have a degree in physics and can assure you there is mass.
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I have, my entire time, had a difficult time wrapping my head around quantum physics. Seems that each time an experiment is performed where a new, smaller particle is found, the former particle is found to be made up of mostly empty space and a massless energy.

So the search continues to find what gives matter mass.

I haven't watched the video...I will in a bit, but I'd like to ask you what does give mass to all that is around us?

cheers
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The Higgs field, apparently.

I really hope someone sorts out the mysteries of QM in my lifetime, then we can finally rid ourselves of the new-age crackpots.
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Maybe it'll rid us of the dogmatic old dinosaurs.

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Maybe in some metaphysical sense you're right, and that's all there really is.

But there definitely is such a thing called "mass," at least as we understand it. That's why the discovery of the Higgs Boson last year was so important - because that's the elementary particle that CREATES mass in the first place.

Don't be stupid.
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Re: Quantum mechanics show that there is NO MASS...and thats a gamechanger
Mass is energy. Are you saying that energy doesn't exist?
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if i hit myself on the head with a hammer, i have experience "matter".
therefore, "matter" exits.

QED


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 Quoting: Suzy Creamcheese


LOL that doesn't prove the existence of matter at all. What if you're dreaming you hit yourself on the head with a hammer? Or you're just a brain in a vat that has been electrically stimulated to believe you hit yourself on the head with a hammer?
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For almost a century science has known that there is NO MASS - only consciousness.

Did you know that ?

IF you did not know that - help me find out why this extremely important information didn't reach you (....just as 98% of the population) ?

Spend a few minutes with scientist Amit Goswami and broaden your mind - if you get it......you will change.

[link to www.youtube.com]

If you get it - you will understand that you are a spirit having a human expirence.
 Quoting: Curiosity 10381696


Doctor Sheldon Cooper is crying.


There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
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I wonder why people try to bring what is pure imagination to the point of fact. Sure it's okay to say it could be that why, but to state it as fact is ludicrous.

I realize thay have experimental results to suggest the realities of quantum mechanics, but they are still grasping at straws.

Listen, Each of us influences the people around us by our actions and visa versa. Obviously these affectations could be communicated via unknown pathways.

However when one suggests that our existence is created individually by our consciousness and ours alone is somehow to me a bit absurd.

We are all in this together and contribute on a somewhat equal basis.

There are many things that are not clear and many possibilities exist, but to stand fast on an answer denotes an ugly arrogance....... at least to me.

I believe we exist in an infinity of infinities which make reality meaningless...... Am I correct? We will all have a better understanding when we leave this stage of existence.

I have plenty of personal proof to know that we persist when we pass......... For me that's all I need to know....... the rest is pleasureful imagination. Because the fact of the matter is, the whole answer we cannot yet know.
One Truth.... many realities
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scientists talk a lot of shit but only a handful are also practical and have anything of value to say. Anyone with a dictionary can sound like they make a lot of sense when talking about things like matter, energy, and consciousness, but you don't see these guys walking on water, levitating, or even bending spoons.

I've seen enough windbag gurus to last a thousand lifetimes. TK or Go Home.
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You don't need to study quantum mechanics to learn that there is no mass. Meditation will reveal it as well.
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meditation is only a tool first you must understand on what is it to be used?
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And I thought the american school system was bad. You sir, are an idiot. Of course there is mass, I have a degree in physics and can assure you there is mass.
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Oh excellent, an Educated Man (assumed man anyway - no offense if not though)

mass - I am not a physics professor nor d o iknow anything, however, in school I recall my wonderment when an Atom was explained to me as being 99.9% empty space..

Everything is made of atoms, why can't I see through objects?

which is true?

1. we have SOLID mass (100% NOT empty space)

2. we have 99.9% nothingness (atom, tiny electron cloud)


I ask sincerely, ignore if you like and NOT trying to derail the tread either.

thank you my friend
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Because the electron field of the atoms your body is made of deflect photons in the visible wavelengths of light. And because the light behind them cannot go through them to you, you cannot see them.
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Billiards man

Spin wins
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quantum mechanics: give it a week...
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Planck Length = 1 Pixel.
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I believe Peter Higgs would like to have a word with you, as well as the fine fine people at CERN.
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putin
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^this
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I believe Peter Higgs would like to have a word with you, as well as the fine fine people at CERN.
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cruise

cheers
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I believe Peter Higgs would like to have a word with you, as well as the fine fine people at CERN.
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applause2
There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
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Its a great book.

I can STRONGLY recomment Nick Bostrom as well:
[link to www.simulation-argument.com]

I am 100% sre that we are right in the paradigm shift now......and I mean NOW :-)

We are extremely close to proof - and when you dig into it, a beatutifull world of new possibilities unfold.

As above - so below :-)
 Quoting: Curiosity 10381696


OP, I have a feeling, it has something to do with aether, there is some component to it that we have not figured out yet, but I feel we are right on the brink of discovering and it will change everything forever.

and I will add this platitude.....all in good time.

Fantastic Thread!!

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Metaphysical idealism wrapped in a modern appeal to authority?
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That is not even a sentence.
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Metaphysical idealism, in the event that is wrapped beautifully in a modern appeal. Also, to authority.
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Planck Length = 1 Pixel.
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^^^^^^^^^THIS!
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At the Super String level there is a phasing in/out between matter/energy. In other words, the components of every atom within our bodies and our world is constantly vibrating (phasing, alternating) between matter and energy at a very high rate of speed. Team A will say, "A-hah! See, all is matter." Team B will say, "A-hah! All is energy." Both teams are correct...sort of.

Another part of the equation is gravity (attraction). As more molecules attract together they create more gravity. In fact, their synergistic combination behaves in a way that we define as mass.

Another part of the equation is spirit (intention). This may also be defined as intelligence. I like how a previous poster on this thread described this functionality: "The Observer becomes part of the experiment and is no longer merely an observer, but part of a larger equation."

What makes this present 3D experience fun, enjoyable, and exciting for us is the mystery of it all. As hard as we try to figure it out we simply cannot do so at our current range of vibrations. There are vibrations beyond our observable range that provide the fabric for our current vibratory level. Therefore, to discover the definitive answer to matter/energy and define our world at our current level (vibration) is impossible. It is like a circular definition where one uses the term(s) being defined as part of the definition.
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And what good is this information going to do you? Now you don't have to go to work to make money to buy food, clothing and shelter. You're still stuck in 3D and a slave until you can manifest food, clothing and shelter without slaving for it.
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There is no spoon.
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At the Super String level there is a phasing in/out between matter/energy. In other words, the components of every atom within our bodies and our world is constantly vibrating (phasing, alternating) between matter and energy at a very high rate of speed. Team A will say, "A-hah! See, all is matter." Team B will say, "A-hah! All is energy." Both teams are correct...sort of.

Another part of the equation is gravity (attraction). As more molecules attract together they create more gravity. In fact, their synergistic combination behaves in a way that we define as mass.

Another part of the equation is spirit (intention). This may also be defined as intelligence. I like how a previous poster on this thread described this functionality: "The Observer becomes part of the experiment and is no longer merely an observer, but part of a larger equation."

What makes this present 3D experience fun, enjoyable, and exciting for us is the mystery of it all. As hard as we try to figure it out we simply cannot do so at our current range of vibrations. There are vibrations beyond our observable range that provide the fabric for our current vibratory level. Therefore, to discover the definitive answer to matter/energy and define our world at our current level (vibration) is impossible. It is like a circular definition where one uses the term(s) being defined as part of the definition.
 Quoting: Quantum Quentin 21509763


maybe aether is the source of the higher vibration.
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what if god spelled backwards was cat?
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Re: Quantum mechanics show that there is NO MASS...and thats a gamechanger
For almost a century science has known that there is NO MASS - only consciousness.

Did you know that ?

IF you did not know that - help me find out why this extremely important information didn't reach you (....just as 98% of the population) ?

Spend a few minutes with scientist Amit Goswami and broaden your mind - if you get it......you will change.

[link to www.youtube.com]

If you get it - you will understand that you are a spirit having a human expirence.
 Quoting: Curiosity 10381696


Doctor Sheldon Cooper is crying.


 Quoting: AgnosticDeity


clappa
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Re: Quantum mechanics show that there is NO MASS...and thats a gamechanger
At the Super String level there is a phasing in/out between matter/energy. In other words, the components of every atom within our bodies and our world is constantly vibrating (phasing, alternating) between matter and energy at a very high rate of speed. Team A will say, "A-hah! See, all is matter." Team B will say, "A-hah! All is energy." Both teams are correct...sort of.

Another part of the equation is gravity (attraction). As more molecules attract together they create more gravity. In fact, their synergistic combination behaves in a way that we define as mass.

Another part of the equation is spirit (intention). This may also be defined as intelligence. I like how a previous poster on this thread described this functionality: "The Observer becomes part of the experiment and is no longer merely an observer, but part of a larger equation."

What makes this present 3D experience fun, enjoyable, and exciting for us is the mystery of it all. As hard as we try to figure it out we simply cannot do so at our current range of vibrations. There are vibrations beyond our observable range that provide the fabric for our current vibratory level. Therefore, to discover the definitive answer to matter/energy and define our world at our current level (vibration) is impossible. It is like a circular definition where one uses the term(s) being defined as part of the definition.
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Just FYI?

M-Theory is beautiful horseshit.
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Great vid and Lateralus by Tool is always a good thing. New album hopefully soon.
Peace.
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Re: Quantum mechanics show that there is NO MASS...and thats a gamechanger
For Pete's sake. There is no Aether.

It was conjured up during ancient times, and thankfully went the way of the Dodo during the late 19th-early 20th century due to advances in physics.
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For Pete's sake. There is no Aether.

It was conjured up during ancient times, and thankfully went the way of the Dodo during the late 19th-early 20th century due to advances in physics.
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They're all models, dude

the dynamics import
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And what good is this information going to do you? Now you don't have to go to work to make money to buy food, clothing and shelter. You're still stuck in 3D and a slave until you can manifest food, clothing and shelter without slaving for it.
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Could someone please address this question? tia
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Re: Quantum mechanics show that there is NO MASS...and thats a gamechanger
For Pete's sake. There is no Aether.

It was conjured up during ancient times, and thankfully went the way of the Dodo during the late 19th-early 20th century due to advances in physics.
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They're all models, dude

the dynamics import
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You seem to be mistaking unfounded theories that have no data and cannot make predictions or be used to create repeatable results with ones that do.
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Aether. I like it. That could be the answer, or at least, the next level of the answers.

If I could define Aether I may describe it as: The fabric of space/time that provides the mesh (matrix) for energy/matter to interact at our oscillatory level providing our current experience. It is a type of quantum plasma intelligently designed and able to interactively respond to conditions and stimuli provided by the attaching energy/matter. It is the flexible glue holding my house of cards.

If we were able to identify Aether and verify its integration within our world that would be great. However, I suggest that this would only lead us to the next level of questions.

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