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President Barack Obama is set to reject the key compromise at the heart of a bipartisan deal on immigration reform announced by eight Senators yesterday. The president, who will deliver an address later today in Las Vegas, NV outlining his own immigration ideas, is reported to oppose linking a “path to citizenship” for illegal immigrants, a Democrat demand, to stronger law enforcement and better border security, a Republican demand.
The president will apparently argue that the administration has met reasonable goals on enforcing current immigration legislation, and that additional security will merely create new obstacles to legalizing the roughly 12 million illegal immigrants thought to be living in the United States. The federal government accelerated deportations in the first years of the Obama presidency, and sent new personnel to patrol the southwestern border.

However, starting last year, the Obama administration declined to enforce existing law regarding the so-called “Dreamers”--immigrants brought illegally to the U.S. as children. The election-year move drew praise from Hispanic groups but preempted congressional legislation, and brought criticism from proponents of immigration reform, including Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), who objected to the president’s clear circumvention of Congress.

The essence of the deal struck by Rubio with Senate colleagues in the “Gang of Eight” or “immigration eight” is that a path to citizenship would be contingent upon meeting law enforcement criteria. Republican critics of the Senate deal--including some who are otherwise supportive of immigration reform--argued that the deal would cause “instant legalization” of illegal immigrants, while the border security provisions would take time.

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The Dems already pulled this stunt with Reagan when he declared amnesty back in the '80's.

The Repubs should tell him to pound sand and uphold 30 year old promises.
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Wow. Makes it plain that Obama wants millions more Mexicans to pour over the border to get amnesty.

I hope all blue-collar people are taking notes : the Democrats are not our friends. They are stabbing us in the back. We don't need more people! There's too many people and not enough jobs. Unemployment will stay high because of amnesty.

And also : black unemployment is the highest in the nation. Latino-American unemployment is the second highest. That's not going to change if Traitor Obama gives amnesty to illegal aliens.
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The Dems already pulled this stunt with Reagan when he declared amnesty back in the '80's.

The Repubs should tell him to pound sand and uphold 30 year old promises.
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Reagan was a republican
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Wow. Makes it plain that Obama wants millions more Mexicans to pour over the border to get amnesty.

I hope all blue-collar people are taking notes : the Democrats are not our friends. They are stabbing us in the back. We don't need more people! There's too many people and not enough jobs. Unemployment will stay high because of amnesty.

And also : black unemployment is the highest in the nation. Latino-American unemployment is the second highest. That's not going to change if Traitor Obama gives amnesty to illegal aliens.
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They want more democrats for voting...
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The Dems already pulled this stunt with Reagan when he declared amnesty back in the '80's.

The Repubs should tell him to pound sand and uphold 30 year old promises.
 Quoting: John Donson 32359513


Reagan was a republican
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Please do your research on this subject.
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Wow. Makes it plain that Obama wants millions more Mexicans to pour over the border to get amnesty.

I hope all blue-collar people are taking notes : the Democrats are not our friends. They are stabbing us in the back. We don't need more people! There's too many people and not enough jobs. Unemployment will stay high because of amnesty.

And also : black unemployment is the highest in the nation. Latino-American unemployment is the second highest. That's not going to change if Traitor Obama gives amnesty to illegal aliens.
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They want more democrats for voting...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31759258


THIS

'Progressives' and Dems need a large minority or preferably majority radicalized 'minority' population. This is their business model, and keep them beholden to 'Progressives' and Dems. When they have this, they then start passing all kinds of 'Progressive' laws about stuff like gay marriage or gay this and that, banning this and that ... and if the 'minorities' complain or don't want to go along, they're told to shut up and get with the program or they'll lose all their special rights and social services. And evil white males are just waiting to abuse them so they better vote Dem and 'Progressive' if they know what's good for them.
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Wow. Makes it plain that Obama wants millions more Mexicans to pour over the border to get amnesty.

I hope all blue-collar people are taking notes : the Democrats are not our friends. They are stabbing us in the back. We don't need more people! There's too many people and not enough jobs. Unemployment will stay high because of amnesty.

And also : black unemployment is the highest in the nation. Latino-American unemployment is the second highest. That's not going to change if Traitor Obama gives amnesty to illegal aliens.
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Obamacare wasn't about health care. It was about control over 1/5 of the economy. Gun control isn't about reducing gun violence. It's about taking the first step towards full disarmament. Amnesty isn't about immigration reform. It's about cancelling white votes with brown votes. When the DHS buys 7,000 fully automatic weapons, they are called "personal defense weapons". If a citizen owns a semi auto .22 with a 25 rd magazine, it's a "Military style assault weapon". 1984 meets 2013. The only thing worse than knowing that your society is going to collapse, is knowing that it deserves to collapse.
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This de-facto clown cannot be reasoned with.

He needs to be removed from office by the military.
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Obamacare wasn't about health care. It was about control over 1/5 of the economy. Gun control isn't about reducing gun violence. It's about taking the first step towards full disarmament. Amnesty isn't about immigration reform. It's about cancelling white votes with brown votes. When the DHS buys 7,000 fully automatic weapons, they are called "personal defense weapons". If a citizen owns a semi auto .22 with a 25 rd magazine, it's a "Military style assault weapon". 1984 meets 2013. The only thing worse than knowing that your society is going to collapse, is knowing that it deserves to collapse.
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ohyeah
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The congress should offer a compromise: Allow instant amnesty to all illegal immigrants starting tomorrow with one stipulation. Illegal Immigrants and their offspring will not be allowed to vote until 2050.
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If illegal immigrants were 70% republican, Nancy Pelosi would be demanding the border be secured with land mines and death traps.
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Obamacare wasn't about health care. It was about control over 1/5 of the economy. Gun control isn't about reducing gun violence. It's about taking the first step towards full disarmament. Amnesty isn't about immigration reform. It's about cancelling white votes with brown votes. When the DHS buys 7,000 fully automatic weapons, they are called "personal defense weapons". If a citizen owns a semi auto .22 with a 25 rd magazine, it's a "Military style assault weapon". 1984 meets 2013. The only thing worse than knowing that your society is going to collapse, is knowing that it deserves to collapse.
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I agree. And The Patriot Act had nothing to do with Patriotism. The exact opposite in fact. We really are screwed.
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Obamacare wasn't about health care. It was about control over 1/5 of the economy. Gun control isn't about reducing gun violence. It's about taking the first step towards full disarmament. Amnesty isn't about immigration reform. It's about cancelling white votes with brown votes. When the DHS buys 7,000 fully automatic weapons, they are called "personal defense weapons". If a citizen owns a semi auto .22 with a 25 rd magazine, it's a "Military style assault weapon". 1984 meets 2013. The only thing worse than knowing that your society is going to collapse, is knowing that it deserves to collapse.
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I agree. And The Patriot Act had nothing to do with Patriotism. The exact opposite in fact. We really are screwed.
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raising taxes had nothing to do with cutting the deficit. The list goes on and on.
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The Dems already pulled this stunt with Reagan when he declared amnesty back in the '80's.

The Repubs should tell him to pound sand and uphold 30 year old promises.
 Quoting: John Donson 32359513


Exactly... fool us once... f*** you the next time you try it.
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This de-facto clown cannot be reasoned with.

He needs to be removed from office by the military.
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This de-facto clown cannot be reasoned with.

He needs to be removed from office by the military.
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right NOW already. it's not just congress, the president who are not doing their job or upholding the Constitution - the military is blatantly ignoring it and doing nothing about it.
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The congress should offer a compromise: Allow instant amnesty to all illegal immigrants starting tomorrow with one stipulation. Illegal Immigrants and their offspring will not be allowed to vote until 2050.
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Let them stay, legal foreign status - as long as they register and pay taxes and apply for citizenship.

Change the immigration rules to allow more people, from all friendly countries, in legally and much faster.

My wife is a Filipino and has a half dozen educated siblings, nurses, IT, chefs, etc.. with skills that are needed here. They can't swim across the ocean as easily as a Mexican can walk across the border. They deserve an equal chance to be here.
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Re: No Deal - Obama: No Border Security Before Path to Citizenship
Wow. Makes it plain that Obama wants millions more Mexicans to pour over the border to get amnesty.

I hope all blue-collar people are taking notes : the Democrats are not our friends. They are stabbing us in the back. We don't need more people! There's too many people and not enough jobs. Unemployment will stay high because of amnesty.

And also : black unemployment is the highest in the nation. Latino-American unemployment is the second highest. That's not going to change if Traitor Obama gives amnesty to illegal aliens.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31801898


They want more democrats for voting...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31759258


THIS

'Progressives' and Dems need a large minority or preferably majority radicalized 'minority' population. This is their business model, and keep them beholden to 'Progressives' and Dems. When they have this, they then start passing all kinds of 'Progressive' laws about stuff like gay marriage or gay this and that, banning this and that ... and if the 'minorities' complain or don't want to go along, they're told to shut up and get with the program or they'll lose all their special rights and social services. And evil white males are just waiting to abuse them so they better vote Dem and 'Progressive' if they know what's good for them.
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obama is setting this up to deliberately "fail" by inserting the gay partner thing. what a piece of crap he is...
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The congress should offer a compromise: Allow instant amnesty to all illegal immigrants starting tomorrow with one stipulation. Illegal Immigrants and their offspring will not be allowed to vote until 2050.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31708378


Let them stay, legal foreign status - as long as they register and pay taxes and apply for citizenship.

Change the immigration rules to allow more people, from all friendly countries, in legally and much faster.

My wife is a Filipino and has a half dozen educated siblings, nurses, IT, chefs, etc.. with skills that are needed here. They can't swim across the ocean as easily as a Mexican can walk across the border. They deserve an equal chance to be here.
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Society is in no way obligated to cater to your Asian fetish. Maybe you ought to move to the Philippines.
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He just opened the flood gates
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The congress should offer a compromise: Allow instant amnesty to all illegal immigrants starting tomorrow with one stipulation. Illegal Immigrants and their offspring will not be allowed to vote until 2050.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31708378


Let them stay, legal foreign status - as long as they register and pay taxes and apply for citizenship.

Change the immigration rules to allow more people, from all friendly countries, in legally and much faster.

My wife is a Filipino and has a half dozen educated siblings, nurses, IT, chefs, etc.. with skills that are needed here. They can't swim across the ocean as easily as a Mexican can walk across the border. They deserve an equal chance to be here.
 Quoting: TraderRob


Society is in no way obligated to cater to your Asian fetish. Maybe you ought to move to the Philippines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33186634


Damn right.
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The only really solution to the immigration crisis is to stop all immigration, period, and deport every single illegal alien. If cities want to act as sanctuaries, those cities don't need to exist.

We are letting in 1 million LEGAL immigrants every year -- the vast majority of which are not really skilled at all, and take jobs away from White Americans while depressing wages by greatly increasing the labor supply.

This is high treason. And if you think it's going to stop without some form of violent conflict, you are wrong. The last thing the United States needs are more immigrants.
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My wife is a Filipino and has a half dozen educated siblings, nurses, IT, chefs, etc.. with skills that are needed here. They can't swim across the ocean as easily as a Mexican can walk across the border. They deserve an equal chance to be here.
 Quoting: TraderRob


I'm sorry, but the way I see it : we Americans should come first here in our own country. Foreign nurses, IT, or whatever shouldn't be displacing Americans in the job market when unemployment is so high.

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