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I have been asked many times in the past couple of weeks whether I will uphold my oath to defend the Constitution and proclaim an intolerance of federal action against the Second Amendment.

Many others have indulged that pressure and now we see Oregon sheriffs, Wyoming legislators and others making hollow promises to protect you from the intrusions of the federal government. Let me respectfully remind you that we are the federal government, the state government and the local government.

I did not swear to uphold just part of the Constitution. Our Constitution includes the right to keep and bear arms, but it also includes the “supremacy clause” that says that every state shall abide by the laws passed by our Congress.

Read more here: [link to www.idahostatesman.com]

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Somebody should pin this, the sheriff is way out of line here....I'm not a resident of his county but close enough. Ada county is starting to ruin our good state, in many ways.
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The sad truth is if any law enforcement agency took funds from the federal government and most, if not all of them did, they are now considered to be part of DHS and are no longer the supreme authority in their districts.

They sold you out for shiny new toys of death and destruction which they intend to use on you.

Government is EVIL
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The sad truth is if any law enforcement agency took funds from the federal government and most, if not all of them did, they are now considered to be part of DHS and are no longer the supreme authority in their districts.

They sold you out for shiny new toys of death and destruction which they intend to use on you.

Government is EVIL
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Agreed, but they're not all playing along. The country next door's sheriff has come out against the gun grabbers.
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Somebody should pin this, the sheriff is way out of line here....I'm not a resident of his county but close enough. Ada county is starting to ruin our good state, in many ways.
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Out of line for telling the truth?
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No out of line for going AGAINST the constitution!

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Somebody should pin this, the sheriff is way out of line here....I'm not a resident of his county but close enough. Ada county is starting to ruin our good state, in many ways.
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Out of line for telling the truth?
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Obviously you're ignorant of the real supreme law of the land, go away troll.
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Somebody should pin this, the sheriff is way out of line here....I'm not a resident of his county but close enough. Ada county is starting to ruin our good state, in many ways.
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Out of line for telling the truth?
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No out of line for going AGAINST the constitution!

skull_fing
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Are you claiming the supremacy clause doesn't exist?
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Supremacy? Congress has not yet passed a gun law, but if and when they do, "supremacy" will not matter because the law will be unconstitutional and unconstitutional laws do not have to be obeyed!
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Guess who's not getting re-elected?
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Somebody should pin this, the sheriff is way out of line here....I'm not a resident of his county but close enough. Ada county is starting to ruin our good state, in many ways.
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He is elected.. maybe he'll get his pathetic ass kicked in the next election..
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Boycott that which you do not like. Don't buy anything from any company in those counties. Maybe those business owners will put pressure on their sheriffs.
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During the first decades of our country, and up into Andrew Jackson's presidency, all laws passed by congress had to be examined by the Supreme Court and verified as proper and legal within the boundaries established by the constitution.

After this was changed, by a corrupt congress (long story - had to do with them using public money to get re-elected), the congress was freed from its leash and their rulings began to deviate further and further from the original document until they now bear no resemblance whatsoever to the initial boundaries in which they could legislate.

That Idaho sheriff is twisting logic and words to meet a corrupt agenda. He knows better, but is working towards a dark end. The problem with the people determined to overthrow this country and establish their globalist dream is that they don't care at all about the laws of the United States, or how their actions will effect the lives of the people in their jurisdiction.

It's anything for the globalists, lie cheat steal whatever, as long as the desired outcome is achieved.

The constitution lays out limited jurisdictions in which different groups can legislate. There are a few for the federal government, some for the states and the rest reserved for the people (individual choices). The congress can no more legislate on guns than I can order my neighbor, a Muslim from Africa, to eat pork for breakfast. I have no jurisdiction on her household.

The sheriff knows better. That's key here.

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Great points in this thread. This sherrif probably went the same constitutional law school that Obama did.
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OP's still at Google furiously looking up links to back him up. chuckle

Let me save you some time, there isn't even one.
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You're out numbered troll, go hide behind mama's skirt!
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I have been asked many times in the past couple of weeks whether I will uphold my oath to defend the Constitution and proclaim an intolerance of federal action against the Second Amendment.

Many others have indulged that pressure and now we see Oregon sheriffs, Wyoming legislators and others making hollow promises to protect you from the intrusions of the federal government. Let me respectfully remind you that we are the federal government, the state government and the local government.

I did not swear to uphold just part of the Constitution. Our Constitution includes the right to keep and bear arms, but it also includes the “supremacy clause” that says that every state shall abide by the laws passed by our Congress.

Read more here: [link to www.idahostatesman.com]
 Quoting: Sig Sauer


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... WOW! ... Idaho citizens ... maybe RUN for the boarders? ...
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... "WE"??? ...
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Did you understand what the Supreme Court said here? No Executive Order, Presidential Directive, Executive Agreement, no NAFTA, GATT/WTO agreement/treaty, passed by ANYONE, can supersede the Constitution. FACT. No question!

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... WOW! ... Idaho citizens ... maybe RUN for the boarders? ...
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... "WE"??? ...
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No, this guy and all of the other's that think like him including a couple of trolls here are nothing compared to the law abiding gun owners....especially here in this state. We're all strapped!
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why does it matter how large he is? =P
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In depth look at the supremacy clause - [link to www.heritage.org]
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Somebody should pin this, the sheriff is way out of line here....I'm not a resident of his county but close enough. Ada county is starting to ruin our good state, in many ways.
 Quoting: Sig Sauer


Out of line for telling the truth?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14727741




No out of line for going AGAINST the constitution!

skull_fing
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Are you claiming the supremacy clause doesn't exist?
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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Show me the article, section, and clause of the united states constitution that gives the federal government the power to invalidate the Bill of Rights.

Article, section, and clause.
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Two points to counter the OP on this. AZ law and wetbacks, and CO and WA Drugs, oh and add CA to that. With the drugs, the States have chosen not to enforce federal law. AZ was informed that they could not inforce federal laws. It looks like the glass is not clear enough to see through.
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He's the largest county sheriff in Idaho? Must be a real FAT-ASS.
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Well, at least that sheriff is honest about why he is a traitor and will be a willing contributor to tyranny. Way to make a target out of yourself dipstick.

In keeping with that sheriff's line of thought, he should be booted out of office the next time he's up for election.

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I wonder why this isn't pinned. 1dunno1

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Why don't you pin it?
You have invested the most time on the subject.
Have the fed gov ever made a change to the 2nd?

Are you 'paid by post'?
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wonder what odevil is doing for him?
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Typical for a libtard sheriff to interpret the law in this way. First, three is likely to be no gun rights infringement legislation that will be approved by the house and senate both. The main issue that these sheriffs have been speaking out against is this presidents penchant for using powers he is not authorized to make, especially in the form of Executive Orders.

The Constitution is very clear on this part. The Supremacy Clause only applies if Congress is acting in pursuit of its constitutionally authorized powers. This means that the supremacy clause states that the laws passed by congress are the law of the land, it does not apply to the EO dictates from emperor Obama.
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No, the way I see it, and I'm no lawyer, the sheriff in question who's siding with the Feds is wrong.

The supremacy clause only hold specifically:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding."

The states are only bound if the law is constitutional. If it isn't, then no matter if the Federal law is written, it's illegal, and hence doesn't have to be followed.
[link to constitution.org]
" The General rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from the time of it's enactment and not merely from the date of the decision so branding it. An unconstitutional law, in legal contemplation, is as inoperative as if it had never been passed. Such a statute leaves the question that it purports to settle just as it would be had the statute not been enacted.

Since an unconstitutional law is void, the general principles follow that it imposes no duties, confers no rights, creates no office, bestows no power or authority on anyone, affords no protection, and justifies no acts performed under it....."

The legal basis is state nullification:
[link to www.libertyclassroom.com]
"Says Who?

Says Thomas Jefferson, among other distinguished Americans. His draft of the Kentucky Resolutions of 1798 first introduced the word “nullification” into American political life, and follow-up resolutions in 1799 employed Jefferson’s formulation that “nullification…is the rightful remedy” when the federal government reaches beyond its constitutional powers. In the Virginia Resolutions of 1798, James Madison said the states were “duty bound to resist” when the federal government violated the Constitution."

More about State Nullification here:
[link to tenthamendmentcenter.com]

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