Actors Walking in Circles Around Sandy Hook Firehouse - Creating The Illusion of More People

A cover up video? Why there was no ambulance seen in Sandy Hook school - the main crime field but gathering here?

RAW Helicopter Footage Sandy Hook HOAX PROOF 12/14/2012 - The First Aerial



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Yes, start a new thread for this.

This is amazing. Now consider this: Why is the camera (the camera is mounted on either a helicopter- most likely, or on a small drone- less likely) focusing on the cameraman?!?

It is as if the person operating the airborne videocamera noticed the man (who looks just like Richard Lewis- complete with dark sunglasses, 3/4 length black topcoat, and cheap, white, low-top sneakers) with the camera with the large shutter, and exclusively focused on him!!!!!

Then, why is the cameraman backed up against the white EMS truck, while the purple shirted man is threatening him?!? The purple shirted man is IRATE, and either gives the cameraman the middle finger, or makes a gun-hand gesture using his thumb and pointer finger. Immediately after this gesture, you can see him point at the cameraman and it is obvious he shouts, "FUCK YOU!!!"

The cameraman then notices that another large man wearing a brown coat has appeared, with a dog on a leash, standing very close to him. (Was the dog brought to the cameraman as a threat?!) The cameraman then walks quickly away from the EMS vehicle shade, and stops a Connecticut State Trooper and begins talking to him.

Did the cameraman ask why he was being threatened? Did he report to the State Trooper that he was being threatened by a man wearing a purple shirt? Hmmm...

All 4 then feed into a 5th/6th grade school. Then that feeds into a single 7th/8th grade school.

One of the elementary schools is the old high school. Yet it has less students than Sandy Hook did.

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I'm referring to the video "Sandy Hook News Chopper Helicopter":
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1) At 5:48 a man directs those people to go through that door next to him. And he controls them. It is this man, who at 9:47 gets food from a lady. See: [link to s1.directupload.net] .

With this man I have a problem: We are told that all children, who survived (600?) are in the firehouse. It would make sense to me if this man was, let's say, a fireman, who controls that only parents of Sandy Hook students get into the firehouse. Because for that stressed children inside is would have been no good to be flashed at all the time by cameramen or even molested with endless questions of TV or newspaper journalists.

But: 600 children could have up to 1,200 parents. And even only 400 children could have up to 800 parents. It is absolutely impossible that this controlling "fireman" would know all the parents from face to face!

Please note that this controlling "fireman" not once asks for a identification (e g. driving licence or something). For that he should also have had a list. But he has none.

He also never asks for a at least superficial identification by asking those who want to enter the door: "Are You a parent?". So that a father or mother could reply (let's say) "Yes I am the father/mother of Jimmy Smith, who is in the 7th grade".
There is absolutely no questioning. Instead this controlling "fireman" seems to know all persons from face to face. And with real parents that would not be possible!

2) At 7:70 this man comes out of that door phoning with his cell phone. See: [link to s7.directupload.net] .
And at first I thought he came out so not to disturb the parents with his talking into a phone. But after walking around for a few seconds he goes in again still talking into his phone.
Why did he come out and why did he go in again? I makes no sense!

I aint arguin'...

lol I like anagram too.

Here's one for "Benjamin Creme" (Maitreya's right arm):

Embrace Me Jinn

Thank you, Eos.
I should first say that I am not an attorney. I did a bit of research on Habeas corpus. It is the basis of our freedoms. Eos, you say, “… you have the most unique situ ever. the children "belonged" to the parents. except for the two or three highlighted in televised interviews, the parents are completely silent…”. That is true. It is unique but seems to go to the very basic issue that habeas corpus is all about. I don’t think who the body, (the children), belong to is of issue here. Or any definition of ‘arrested’. The point is that they were stated by both government and media to be “held” by the government. The issue of dead or alive is not issue until proven in the manner that habeas corpus directs, produce the body.
From the research done I see it can be filed in any fed court. The most likely, 99.999%, first action of a fed court would be a rejection as it was not completely followed up on the local, county and state level. One case can be filed for each child in any fed court. Same with lower levels. If the lower court rejects as per Carver’s law, that now no autopsies of murdered children need be revealed that in itself can bring it to higher court as point of law. Is such a law legal?
Some here might think I am off on a tangent. I would understand that. But many here also feel and say, including myself, “…such organized corruption of this size is hard to believe…”. It is. Reasons can be sought for this such as power of tv. But the important thing is that for enough to believe it needs exposure, exposure…exposure.
The pie formula used to be taught high in ATT. (Here it is pie, not pi.) PIE stands for Product/Image/Exposure. This is what produces sales. It is taught that the Product is the least important, the Image, the second important, and the Exposure the most important. In other words a bad product with a lousy image, (as in advertising), will still fly if there is vast amount of runs, (exposure), of the ad.
The tipping point might be closer than we think. I guess I sound like a cheer leader. Okay. So what…? Ra Ra Ra, RA RA RA.
Lol.
Thanks all for sticking with this.

According to the most recent New York Times article, police arrived at Sandy Hook school in 3 min; shooter was dead soon after. How is photographer calmly in place (not to mention allowed on the grounds at all) to witness these fleeing people?

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Where did you obtain this photograph, Zephyr?

It does appear the uniformed officer is a CT State Trooper, from his uniform.

However, is this building in the background actually Sandy Hook Elementary? Perhaps the school in the background is actually St. Rose Lima or whatever the school one mile away from S.H.Elementary is named.

Or, the photo could be a photoshop.


Why was this photo not plastered all over the print media in the days following the Sandy Hook event?


Also, observe the vehicles between the four subjects and the building. Do they match any of the vehicles parked in front of Sandy Hook Elementary from the aerial shots taken by helicopter?

I've also seen that photo several times, and it has been passed off by MSM as Sandy Hook. Whether it actually is or not, I don't know. Wouldn't behind them be the front doors of the school? I don't see any broken glass, but maybe it's a different area of the school...

Didn't the woman from the Newtown Bee who took the one and only evacuation photo say she was the first journalist/photographer to arrive on scene? And that was at 10:15...This is the website where I originally read this ( [link to www.poynter.org] but now I get a "Bad Gateway" error when I click on it. :\ This is what it says in the description on the Google page:

"by Julie Moos - in 2,916 Google+ circles
Dec 15, 2012 – Newtown Bee Associate Editor Shannon Hicks was at the newspaper's ... from Sandy Hook Elementary when she heard about a possible shooting at the school. ... An early photo from the scene — which appeared ubiquitously during ... might have been of the first cluster of evacuating students, he said.
Global News | Timeline: Connecticut"

Police arrived within 3 minutes? I wish they'd at least give us a timeline. 3 minutes after the first 911 call? Which would be what time exactly? And how does what this woman saw mesh with that timeline, I wonder?

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Last Edited by Zuzu's Petals on 01/30/2013 10:12 PM

thanks for this elucidation of the process, rinty :)
i'm not a lawyer either, and of course one doesn't have to be to file that writ of habeus corpus on behalf of another who may be incommunicado .. it is the most alive instrument in law, and it's very hard here to know when to stop with the metaphor of the "body" because the body really is/was a body.

is there legal precedent for this? do people file this for disappeared persons? well at any rate, if a crime is to be discovered by using the tools at hand, then i suppose that would be the mechanism. but i think a Court may well retort that one might as well file on behalf of the aborted.

i honestly don't know the history of it as applied and i don't know about your instructions on the p-i-e and to be honest, i don't care to push the wave. i am like the last person to join in anything ;)

thanks for your thoughts, keep 'em coming, of course. i'm totally new here, not a new version. nice to find such an open, lively discourse!

Yep this photo was taken at the front main entrance to SHE, and we didn't see it too much because of the fact that it shows the glass intact and that there's a cctv camera right there.

So, did anyone ever find proof that anyone was actually walking around in circles as falsely claimed in the OP? ...

You know, like something as simple as taking the video and finding the same person coming back through the same place repeatedly?

no one?




no one?


Yeah, I didnt think so.





Those calling 'shill' are right about one thing - there is definately some shilling going on at this forum - by people posting bullshit.

At the same time, Im utterly surprised at the lack of people debunking this pure shit. Years ago there used to be much more rational and intelligent thought here at this forum.



So.... ask yourselves 'what are the real issues these shills posting this bullshit are trying to cover up'.

or somebody finally noticed the plywood in the upper windows of the gym.

hmm. but now when i click on the twitter link for the pic it says "sorry, something is technically wrong."

i'd say something is technically wrong, all right.

well the error cleared itself after a couple of minutes. someone else just got a similar error trying to view the facebook page for gene rosen, on a thread about how they are trying to get the public to report the vids and coaching any fans of gene rosen to do so.

however, they only have 2,000 or so "likes" on facebook this week, so obviously that tactic is falling rather flat.

Do you take everything so literally?

This video shows creepy gene walking around at the Fire station...I thought he said the kids were at his house for a couple of hours??

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Holden...

Holden, are you really that silly?

Did you not see all the posts about the guy in yellow CHANGING HIS CLOTHES before reappearing?? You missed those? Really?

They likely ALL did that!...you silly little man.

Nice try though. Again, thanks for playing.

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This 1 minute 14 second video is absolute proof. Would it hold up in court of law? Potentially. In a court of public opinion? Same exact outfit! Same light khaki slacks. Same light blue button down shirt. Same cheap navy bubble jacket. Same grey beard. Same short haircut. Same dark shoes.
Same skinny legs, same paunch protruding over the beltline.

OH MY! The jacket is definitely the same, with the hood in the back. Wow. Is there a definitive timestamp on this video, or can google earth be used to establish a timeframe reference for this video?



"Boss, they're hot on my tail! Boss, get me outta here!!!"

Hey dumbass, try the kid with the yellow shirt for starters. That's at least one. You can find others if you pay attention, but clearly you don't since you didn't even bother reading up to the 3rd comment in this thread.

You're the shill and everyone knows it.

That's not plywood, it's the reflection of the bricks.

Incorrect. Im not a shill. Thats your lack of judgment and excessive paranoia talking.

Your lack of judgement and paranoia extends well beyond that single false conclusion, and beyond this false conspiracy theory of this thread, to likely all areas of your life.


Thats a common theme among people that readily accept conspiracy theories:

Things wrapped in paranoia and fantasy and psuedoscience are readily accepted, yet facts and real evidence are invisible to them.

Seriously, it's "Moron" dude.

There has been no real evidence. Only an illogical story told by the controlled media. The facts and real evidence show that it's a conspiracy. Show me a shot up school and some dead bodies or actual grieving parents, not actors getting into character, and I'd be happy to believe the official story.