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Doesn't anyone else understand the connection between ascension and not eating animals?

 
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Even the Christ Jesus at meat. He was a fisherman. Taught many a man how to catch and eat fish. The whole region at goats cheese and goats milk too. If it was good enough for a son of god Christ then its good enough for me. Maybe you should tell the Christ that its wrong. He can let his Dad know how you feel. Tell him you said he has gotten ascension wrong. LOL.
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I think all the fishing talk in the bible is supposed to be a metaphor.
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What is ascension supposed to mean anyway?
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In my opinion, it is not possible to ascend spiritually and still continue to eat meat.

This should bring out the nut cases...

*sigh*
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bring them out?(nut cases) this was posted by one
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In my opinion, it is not possible to ascend spiritually and still continue to eat meat.

This should bring out the nut cases...

*sigh*
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Doesn't anyone else understand the connection between ascension and not eating animals?





I DO I DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ascension and the new age movement died on 12/21/12 as a bogus hoax and that proves it's OK to eat animals!
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i ascended when i started eating more baloney and hot dogs..........go figure.
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:balloney:
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It's not what goes into the mouth that defiles a man, but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man

-Jesus
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'But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat' (Genesis ix, 4)
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I think there are just saying you need to bleed the animal first before you eat it. at least that's whats been taught by the Jews for thousands of years. Its part of making it kosher.
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And that teaching has been wrong....The command to not eat any creature whose life is in its blood, means not to eat any creature whose life is in its blood.

The teachings followed in the Tanach have been misconstrued and misapplied for thousands of years. The teachings of "clean" and "unclean" animals were added to the scripture much later and over the years, by the priests and the ones who benefited by the sacrifice of animals.....they got to eat the meat........

When the Israelites were led out of Egypt, they had plenty of livestock with them, yet they grumbled against Moshe because they were hungry.....Moshe (Moses) was not allowing them to eat the animals in accordance with the instruction of the Most High....

In Genesis 9, where so many misunderstand the scripture, The root form of the Hebrew word translated as either "creeping" or "moving" (as noted in the article) is (phonetically) "rmsh", and is translated "insect, creeping thing, reptile". The Septuagint has the most accurate translation of this verse, and uses the word "reptile" as what was given to mankind to eat, along with herbs and seeds.
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Even the Christ Jesus at meat. He was a fisherman. Taught many a man how to catch and eat fish. The whole region at goats cheese and goats milk too. If it was good enough for a son of god Christ then its good enough for me. Maybe you should tell the Christ that its wrong. He can let his Dad know how you feel. Tell him you said he has gotten ascension wrong. LOL.
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what bible translation do you read? Jesus was a carpenter. He instructed his followers that were fisherman to LEAVE what they were doing, and to follow Him (and His ways), which didn't include eating meat.
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In my opinion, it is not possible to ascend spiritually and still continue to eat meat.

This should bring out the nut cases...

*sigh*
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It's not what goes into the mouth that defiles a man, but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man

-Jesus
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'But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat' (Genesis ix, 4)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33316563


I think there are just saying you need to bleed the animal first before you eat it. at least that's whats been taught by the Jews for thousands of years. Its part of making it kosher.
 Quoting: Keneh


And that teaching has been wrong....The command to not eat any creature whose life is in its blood, means not to eat any creature whose life is in its blood.

The teachings followed in the Tanach have been misconstrued and misapplied for thousands of years. The teachings of "clean" and "unclean" animals were added to the scripture much later and over the years, by the priests and the ones who benefited by the sacrifice of animals.....they got to eat the meat........

When the Israelites were led out of Egypt, they had plenty of livestock with them, yet they grumbled against Moshe because they were hungry.....Moshe (Moses) was not allowing them to eat the animals in accordance with the instruction of the Most High....

In Genesis 9, where so many misunderstand the scripture, The root form of the Hebrew word translated as either "creeping" or "moving" (as noted in the article) is (phonetically) "rmsh", and is translated "insect, creeping thing, reptile". The Septuagint has the most accurate translation of this verse, and uses the word "reptile" as what was given to mankind to eat, along with herbs and seeds.
 Quoting: TheSkyIsFalling


Well after the flood there probably wasn't any plants left to eat so they had to kill and eat the meat that they brought in order to survive.
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In my opinion, it is not possible to ascend spiritually and still continue to eat meat.

This should bring out the nut cases...

*sigh*
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1518608


it depends on what one knows. There are some people, like myself at one time in the past that do not realize how mistreated the food animals are, which is a major factor to be considered. I quit meat because it stunk back, full of chemicals and the like. I had tried quiting it many long years ago and made up the protein in diary which caused a whole other set of problems so I went back on meat. There are many factors to be considered, but anyone who becomes aware of farming of meat animals and continues to support it, has a huge problem with spiritual growth.

Spiritual growth is more than meat. But the dense energies of meat eating surely slow the process for many.
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'But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat' (Genesis ix, 4)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33316563


I think there are just saying you need to bleed the animal first before you eat it. at least that's whats been taught by the Jews for thousands of years. Its part of making it kosher.
 Quoting: Keneh


And that teaching has been wrong....The command to not eat any creature whose life is in its blood, means not to eat any creature whose life is in its blood.

The teachings followed in the Tanach have been misconstrued and misapplied for thousands of years. The teachings of "clean" and "unclean" animals were added to the scripture much later and over the years, by the priests and the ones who benefited by the sacrifice of animals.....they got to eat the meat........

When the Israelites were led out of Egypt, they had plenty of livestock with them, yet they grumbled against Moshe because they were hungry.....Moshe (Moses) was not allowing them to eat the animals in accordance with the instruction of the Most High....

In Genesis 9, where so many misunderstand the scripture, The root form of the Hebrew word translated as either "creeping" or "moving" (as noted in the article) is (phonetically) "rmsh", and is translated "insect, creeping thing, reptile". The Septuagint has the most accurate translation of this verse, and uses the word "reptile" as what was given to mankind to eat, along with herbs and seeds.
 Quoting: TheSkyIsFalling


Well after the flood there probably wasn't any plants left to eat so they had to kill and eat the meat that they brought in order to survive.
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really???? well if the flood killed that many plants it killed the animals too. LETS THINK HERE.
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I think there are just saying you need to bleed the animal first before you eat it. at least that's whats been taught by the Jews for thousands of years. Its part of making it kosher.
 Quoting: Keneh


And that teaching has been wrong....The command to not eat any creature whose life is in its blood, means not to eat any creature whose life is in its blood.

The teachings followed in the Tanach have been misconstrued and misapplied for thousands of years. The teachings of "clean" and "unclean" animals were added to the scripture much later and over the years, by the priests and the ones who benefited by the sacrifice of animals.....they got to eat the meat........

When the Israelites were led out of Egypt, they had plenty of livestock with them, yet they grumbled against Moshe because they were hungry.....Moshe (Moses) was not allowing them to eat the animals in accordance with the instruction of the Most High....

In Genesis 9, where so many misunderstand the scripture, The root form of the Hebrew word translated as either "creeping" or "moving" (as noted in the article) is (phonetically) "rmsh", and is translated "insect, creeping thing, reptile". The Septuagint has the most accurate translation of this verse, and uses the word "reptile" as what was given to mankind to eat, along with herbs and seeds.
 Quoting: TheSkyIsFalling


Well after the flood there probably wasn't any plants left to eat so they had to kill and eat the meat that they brought in order to survive.
 Quoting: Keneh


really???? well if the flood killed that many plants it killed the animals too. LETS THINK HERE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31769448


Right, except for the ones Noah brought. and that was probably all they had to eat until the plants started growing again and they started farming.
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I do!!! I spent much time eating right, vigoursly exercising, and staying away from TV! I also meditated twice a day with binaural beats in the background. Im a woman-so-I cook. At about 6 weeks into doing this-sometimes missing a day or a "meditation session" or two-I had a nice cornish hen waiting for me and my roomates that was defrosted. I had a nice bottle of Italian wine and couldnt wait to finish dinner...mostly for the wine! :) Anyhow-I pick up the cornish hen-and instantly drop it! I couldnt touch it! It was so gross! It was repulsive to think I would cook that decapitated animal and eat it! So-I think..maybe its a fluke. WRONG! I go to some steaks I have marinating in the fridge thinking I will just slap some on the grill..WRONG!!! I couldnt look at it or come close to touching it!!! I starved until the next day-I spiritually brought myself down enough (with methods im too embarassed to say) to eat the meat. Wow-wish I could go back in time now thinking back! I have a lot of making up to do!!!
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I do!!! I spent much time eating right, vigoursly exercising, and staying away from TV! I also meditated twice a day with binaural beats in the background. Im a woman-so-I cook. At about 6 weeks into doing this-sometimes missing a day or a "meditation session" or two-I had a nice cornish hen waiting for me and my roomates that was defrosted. I had a nice bottle of Italian wine and couldnt wait to finish dinner...mostly for the wine! :) Anyhow-I pick up the cornish hen-and instantly drop it! I couldnt touch it! It was so gross! It was repulsive to think I would cook that decapitated animal and eat it! So-I think..maybe its a fluke. WRONG! I go to some steaks I have marinating in the fridge thinking I will just slap some on the grill..WRONG!!! I couldnt look at it or come close to touching it!!! I starved until the next day-I spiritually brought myself down enough (with methods im too embarassed to say) to eat the meat. Wow-wish I could go back in time now thinking back! I have a lot of making up to do!!!
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Cornish hen looks gross anyway. looks like a dead cooked pigeon. IMO
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Do people who abstain from meat have health problems like protein deficiency and other problems?
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I tried going without meat and dairy for some time last year or two. It wasn't easy. I didn't feel healthy or energized or able to think so clearly. I know milk makes me feel junky, and I do stay away from swine and bottom feeders like shell fish and crustations, prawns and lobster. Unclean animals.

But I want to know how do vegans do it? I don't get my fill off tofu or hemp or vegetable protein supplements etc. What can you reccomend?
I like fish. I think meat is good because the fat is good for our brains.

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I tried going without meat and dairy for some time last year or two. It wasn't easy. I didn't feel healthy or energized or able to think so clearly. I know milk makes me feel junky, and I do stay away from swine and bottom feeders like shell fish and crustations, prawns and lobster. Unclean animals.

But I want to know how do vegans do it? I don't get my fill off tofu or hemp or vegetable protein supplements etc. What can you reccomend?
I like fish. I think meat is good because the fat is good for our brains.
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+1
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Re: Doesn't anyone else understand the connection between ascension and not eating animals?
Does the same rules apply to

Vagiterians ? <slurp>
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'Doesn't anyone else understand the connection between ascension and not being an arrogant prick'

There's one for ya.
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So when you eat meat remember you eat the emotions of that death and considering the way they are killed the endorphines released into the meat along with the posions of antibiotics and all that other bs they pump into them your body absorbes it.
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Sometimes the ignorance on GLP is astounding. endorphins and antibiotic metabolites are totally broken down and destroyed when you cook your food.

I have canine teeth for a reason.

Maybe if you vegans got a little more protein you wouldn't be so dense and gullible.
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It's not what goes into the mouth that defiles a man, but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man

-Jesus
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'But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat' (Genesis ix, 4)
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That verse means to not eat uncooked meat. Good grief.
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If life is determined by action/interaction/reaction then your plants are alive as well. So it is allright to eat one lifeform but not another is what you are saying see even the ascenders do not know how to define life...just saying
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Eating Red Meat Will Kill You, Says Science

Sorry meat eaters, but your addiction to the flesh is killing you. According to a new study, called Meat and You: Partners In Freedom Red Meat Consumption and Mortality, eating any type of red meat significantly increases the risk of premature death.

The study zeroed in on the eating habits and health of more than 110,000 adults for a 28 year period. According to the LA Times, which dissected the study, "adding just one 3-ounce serving of unprocessed red meat—picture a piece of steak no bigger than a deck of cards—to one's daily diet was associated with a 13% greater chance of dying during the course of the study... adding an extra daily serving of processed red meat, such as a hot dog or two slices of bacon, was linked to a 20% higher risk of death during the study." (Cue the end of the bacon-on-everything fad.)

[link to gothamist.com]
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My grandfather died at 94. His wife made it to 98. They ate more meat than anyone I've ever known. He told me that during the depression they couldn't afford meat very often. So when things turned around they ate all they could and never stopped. How many weak skinny vegans will make it to 98?
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It's been proven beyond a doubt that humans made great leaps forwards in intelligence when they were able to domesticate animals and eat meat, eggs, and milk more often. This would explain why vegans aren't the sharpest bunch...
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In my opinion, it is not possible to ascend spiritually and still continue to eat meat.

This should bring out the nut cases...

*sigh*
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i heave read in certain literature that one absorbs the energies in the animal as well.hmm
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Iv'e been reading up on all the problem associate with a vegan
diet and it has lead me to believe that humans were meant to eat meat.
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In my opinion, it is not possible to ascend spiritually and still continue to eat meat.

This should bring out the nut cases...

*sigh*
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i heave read in certain literature that one absorbs the energies in the animal as well.hmm
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Maybe then they can ascend as well!
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As Maslow pointed out, a characteristic of of a self actualized person is someone with a healthy appetite for food.

So, ergo, vis a vis, concordantly, anyone who is fastidious and obsessive of what they eat, are the opposite. Little miserable trolls whose only enjoyment in life is to spread their misery to others.
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How do you get enough protein?

I'd like to quit eating meat but when I did it a few years ago, my hair fell out and I got yeast infection. The doctor said I had signs of protein defeciency so I started eating meat again and those problems went away.

I don't like the idea of eating fellow creatures though, but perhaps in this hellish world it's the only way to survive.
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One could eat quinoa. It is a complete protein.





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