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Patriots v.s. Government --- "Comparison" - "By The Numbers"

 
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Heard that a battalion was stationed in the US and ready to go. But there were doubts if the commanders would follow orders.

The purge seems to be addressed at fixing this.
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how are they gonna fix the 50% desertion rate ??

NORTHCOM will be bare bones pencil pushers
at that point.
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Do you even know how few soldiers make up a Battalion? Mine had about 900 men. There are more people living in my mom's assisted living facility.

Maybe you meant to say "Division"?? That would be like, 25,000.
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Even if things ever went to hell in our country there will be men just like Hugh Thompson, Jr who step forward if any action is ever taken against Americans civilans. I really believe that. if you don't know his story then these vids are worth a view.
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very interesting that most posters in this thread
are Americans.
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TPTB will set up a few false flags to undermine the integrity of rural militia units. They will demonize them in the media. They will paint the same picture they did of the Branch Davidians, Randy Weaver, the Freemen, etc...The ignorant sheeple who watch cable news will swallow it all and fear the Patriot militias more than the tyrants of the FedGov.

Again, I know of what I speak.
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We all know this and that situation is not what I'm talking about.

What I'm referring to is, will you revert to the same tactics to further your cause?
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Of course not, but those tanks will prevent fuel, food and supplies from getting to the resistance in your town. Most Americans can't handle their cable TV going out for a few hours, how do you think they will respond to living for weeks cold and hungry in the dark?
It won't be force on force. It will be psychological. When your genny runs out of fuel and your babies bellies are bloated, you'll turn in your guns. Or your neighbor will turn you in first.
Let's face it, with few exceptions we aren't made of the stuff our forebears were. We are weak willed and soft.
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I hope to hell there are no
pessimist cowards like you
in my unit or else I want
a transfer out of this unit.

your attitude is what dooms
you to fail. You have the power
to achieve anything you desire
if you back it up with determination,
courage and self sacrifice.

War is a mind game
that you are not ready to play.

the Viet Cong were rice farmers
with no training and lil supplies.
They didn't give up, neither shall we.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33283358

I'll try not to take your "coward" comment personally, but if you met me you'd probably not think me a pessimist or coward. I wouldn't even wear my bronze star or purple heart, just so you don't feel like a complete douche in my presence.
I know of what I speak. I am a 56 y/o disabled vet. I did my part. I am simply being realistic. This is not a movie or video game that you propose.
Burning patriot flesh smells exactly like burning trooper's flesh.

Remember, you too will be firing on Americans who have sworn an oath to defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign or domestic. Guess who the American people will label the "domestic enemy"? The ones without the matching digital BDUs.

Oh, and quit jacking off and go join the military and change things from the INSIDE. Douche.
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Ignore that guy throwing insults around and please comment more. I am interested in your views. I think you are offering a realistic if bleak view and that is better than false optimism and unreasonable expectations if something like what is being discussed were ever to occur.
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Remember ,, Russia got it's but kicked hard in afghanistan by the natives


the natives were mainly armed with AK47's and RPG
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True, but could they have dropped a chem or bio weapon and taken out 3 million or so in one shot ?
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On your own people? That is about the dumbest thing possible.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


No, the dumbest thing possible is the collective IQ of the mental defectives stroking themselves to their nonsensical, simplistic fantasies about fighting the big bad government. Stick to your video games and just shoot the zombies. It's less dangerous and you can remain in your underwear.
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Oh, and quit jacking off and go join the military and change things from the INSIDE. Douche.
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can you say Khe San or Saigon ??
I knew you could ;)
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Are you saying you were at Khe Sanh? If so, I'd think you could at least spell it correctly. That would also put you into your late 60's in age. I'm no puppy, but I'm not calling anyone a coward either.

I was on active duty from 1983 to 1992, then five years in the "guard." I got out early as a SGT First Class (E-7) due to chronic injuries sustained in 1991. I was a medic 91-Bravo and medical platoon sergeant in the 1/156 armor. (I'm now an RN) Yes, we had tanks. Desert Shield, Desert Storm and Panama. (Just Cause.)
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About 12 years ago, the Marine Corps did a survey at Camp Pendleton on this subject. Believe me, many, if not most GI's would indeed shoot on Americans.
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let's see how well that works when they
see the news broadcast that they just shot
their own father or brother.

propaganda leaflets work on US Troops
just as well as Iraqi troops ;)

especially when they includes pics
of their dead relatives.
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I'm not advocating for any of this, I'm just using my objective critical thinking skills and experience to throw some light on this subject.
They will set up combat teams geographically - all soldiers from, say, South Dakota will be sent to fight in Georgia. Troops from Compton in L.A. will be going to Tennessee and so forth.


They will cut power, fuel and food supplies to any areas that resist. There won't be any newscasts because the FedGov has taken that over. I worked for nine years on active duty in military "Public Affairs" or as they more accurately say psy-op propaganda. You will only get the FedGov's take on things and it will be far from the truth.
They will simply gas your ass. incinerate entire towns that resist. Farms. Encampments. You just won't wake up one morning. WTF do TPTB care? Is the UN gonna send in blue helmeted Pakistani's to help the poor besieged Patriots? Look at Syria for a taste of what this could devolve into. If it comes to this, it is a zero-sum game and TPTB plan on winning.

You should be 100 percent certain and committed to what you are willing to fight for, 'cause no matter how you slice it, it isn't pretty.
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Better to stand for something then to fall for everything.

There is nothing pretty about any of this we should not even have to be thinking about this . But the fact that we are says something all by it's self. Never did I ever think our country would be so divided on real and important issues. Never did I think our government would try to rule over us like they are royalty. Like they know what is best for us. This is anti-American and it goes against everything we believe in and stand for.



Free men have guns and rights Slaves do not!
Seams like this whole planet is a prison.

I have a bad feeling about all of this...
Carbide
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Of course not, but those tanks will prevent fuel, food and supplies from getting to the resistance in your town. Most Americans can't handle their cable TV going out for a few hours, how do you think they will respond to living for weeks cold and hungry in the dark?
It won't be force on force. It will be psychological. When your genny runs out of fuel and your babies bellies are bloated, you'll turn in your guns. Or your neighbor will turn you in first.
Let's face it, with few exceptions we aren't made of the stuff our forebears were. We are weak willed and soft.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33285656


I hope to hell there are no
pessimist cowards like you
in my unit or else I want
a transfer out of this unit.

your attitude is what dooms
you to fail. You have the power
to achieve anything you desire
if you back it up with determination,
courage and self sacrifice.

War is a mind game
that you are not ready to play.

the Viet Cong were rice farmers
with no training and lil supplies.
They didn't give up, neither shall we.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33283358

I'll try not to take your "coward" comment personally, but if you met me you'd probably not think me a pessimist or coward. I wouldn't even wear my bronze star or purple heart, just so you don't feel like a complete douche in my presence.
I know of what I speak. I am a 56 y/o disabled vet. I did my part. I am simply being realistic. This is not a movie or video game that you propose.
Burning patriot flesh smells exactly like burning trooper's flesh.

Remember, you too will be firing on Americans who have sworn an oath to defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign or domestic. Guess who the American people will label the "domestic enemy"? The ones without the matching digital BDUs.

Oh, and quit jacking off and go join the military and change things from the INSIDE. Douche.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33285656


Ignore that guy throwing insults around and please comment more. I am interested in your views. I think you are offering a realistic if bleak view and that is better than false optimism and unreasonable expectations if something like what is being discussed were ever to occur.
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Agreed.
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TPTB will set up a few false flags to undermine the integrity of rural militia units. They will demonize them in the media. They will paint the same picture they did of the Branch Davidians, Randy Weaver, the Freemen, etc...The ignorant sheeple who watch cable news will swallow it all and fear the Patriot militias more than the tyrants of the FedGov.

Again, I know of what I speak.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33285656


We all know this and that situation is not what I'm talking about.

What I'm referring to is, will you revert to the same tactics to further your cause?
 Quoting: Bent


Fuck, I don't have a "cause." I'm an old guy out in the woods hoping my country doesn't go into the shitter. I'm a gun totin' flag wavin' NRA and American Legion member disabled veteran patriot.
I think all this talk about taking on the FedGov is folly. They will fucking crush any resistance with overwhelming force.
War is for younger guys. I had my fun.
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Would it be beneficial to consider weaponry instead of just "boots on the ground?" I was a combat medic in an armored battalion and developed great respect for heavy weapons with state of the art technology onboard. A squad of M-1A1 Abrams tanks vs. AKs and ARs ??? This isn't the 18th century when both sides had comparable arms. Most of your tough talking wanna-be militia neighbors will piss themselves. Then they'll turn in their guns and snitch on you.
Jes' sayin'...take care of your own shit and ignore everybody else.
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pussy, come on. it will be fun. better than playing video games all day. i'm in.
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Tanks are great on flat terrain or on wide roads, even then they need infantry support and resupply constantly.
(Abrams were designed for open field, small village, Eastern Europe battlefield conditions, and fighting Russian tanks.)
So in some areas of the East and Mid West, they would be quite formidable.
In the mountains and canyons where even a motor bike has a problem going, well so much for Tanks and APC's or anything else, but humans!

Then it truly becomes Ak's and Ar's.
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Are you saying you were at Khe Sanh?
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I misspelled it intentionally
to test you if you were there :)

thanks for stepping up
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TPTB will set up a few false flags to undermine the integrity of rural militia units. They will demonize them in the media. They will paint the same picture they did of the Branch Davidians, Randy Weaver, the Freemen, etc...The ignorant sheeple who watch cable news will swallow it all and fear the Patriot militias more than the tyrants of the FedGov.

Again, I know of what I speak.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33285656


We all know this and that situation is not what I'm talking about.

What I'm referring to is, will you revert to the same tactics to further your cause?
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Fuck, I don't have a "cause." I'm an old guy out in the woods hoping my country doesn't go into the shitter. I'm a gun totin' flag wavin' NRA and American Legion member disabled veteran patriot.
I think all this talk about taking on the FedGov is folly. They will fucking crush any resistance with overwhelming force.
War is for younger guys. I had my fun.
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No, I totally agree with the gov crushing anything they come up against. Just would like to hear different opinions is all. Thanks.
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Would it be beneficial to consider weaponry instead of just "boots on the ground?" I was a combat medic in an armored battalion and developed great respect for heavy weapons with state of the art technology onboard. A squad of M-1A1 Abrams tanks vs. AKs and ARs ??? This isn't the 18th century when both sides had comparable arms. Most of your tough talking wanna-be militia neighbors will piss themselves. Then they'll turn in their guns and snitch on you.
Jes' sayin'...take care of your own shit and ignore everybody else.
[/quote}

pussy, come on. it will be fun. better than playing video games all day. i'm in.
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Tanks are great on flat terrain or on wide roads, even then they need infantry support and resupply constantly.
(Abrams were designed for open field, small village, Eastern Europe battlefield conditions, and fighting Russian tanks.)
So in some areas of the East and Mid West, they would be quite formidable.
In the mountains and canyons where even a motor bike has a problem going, well so much for Tanks and APC's or anything else, but humans!

Then it truly becomes Ak's and Ar's.
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I forgot Abrams don't "swim" to well so I guess swamp travel is out of the question also!
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Are you saying you were at Khe Sanh?
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I misspelled it intentionally
to test you if you were there :)

thanks for stepping up
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You're welcome.
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I think all this talk about taking on the FedGov is folly. They will fucking crush any resistance with overwhelming force.
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once upon a time they said that
about Rome

and Athens

and Carthage

and Berlin

etc ....

like I said before,
you have already lost
the battle before you step
foot on the field due to
attitude.
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OP, not all those u listed for the gov will be engaged in combat.
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Of course not, but those tanks will prevent fuel, food and supplies from getting to the resistance in your town. Most Americans can't handle their cable TV going out for a few hours, how do you think they will respond to living for weeks cold and hungry in the dark?
It won't be force on force. It will be psychological. When your genny runs out of fuel and your babies bellies are bloated, you'll turn in your guns. Or your neighbor will turn you in first.
Let's face it, with few exceptions we aren't made of the stuff our forebears were. We are weak willed and soft.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33285656


I hope to hell there are no
pessimist cowards like you
in my unit or else I want
a transfer out of this unit.

your attitude is what dooms
you to fail. You have the power
to achieve anything you desire
if you back it up with determination,
courage and self sacrifice.

War is a mind game
that you are not ready to play.

the Viet Cong were rice farmers
with no training and lil supplies.
They didn't give up, neither shall we.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33283358

I'll try not to take your "coward" comment personally, but if you met me you'd probably not think me a pessimist or coward. I wouldn't even wear my bronze star or purple heart, just so you don't feel like a complete douche in my presence.
I know of what I speak. I am a 56 y/o disabled vet. I did my part. I am simply being realistic. This is not a movie or video game that you propose.
Burning patriot flesh smells exactly like burning trooper's flesh.

Remember, you too will be firing on Americans who have sworn an oath to defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign or domestic. Guess who the American people will label the "domestic enemy"? The ones without the matching digital BDUs.

Oh, and quit jacking off and go join the military and change things from the INSIDE. Douche.
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There are a lot of people who have been awarded bronze stars and purple hearts who disagree with you.

You seem confused as to what constitutes a domestic enemy. That would be the present government. They are responsible for usurping the Constitution. They ignore and trash the Constitution every day.

As far as "demonization" the lines are already drawn thanks to the internet.

I think most of the American people come down on the freedom side judging from the response to the threat of disarmament.

As to your last sentence and the name calling -in case you don't realize it there are a good many veterans on this board.

And there are a good many real Americans here who aren't veterans.
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thinking about those helicopters flying around Miami.. if there were several dozen snipers with scoped 308 bolt guns spread out in buildings and on the ground, there's no way I'd want to be in a helicopter.
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"I forgot Abrams don't "swim" to well so I guess swamp travel is out of the question also!"

I'm just using the machinery I'm familiar with as an example. They are at the A3 variant by now. There are other armored vehicles out there that can go where the M-1A1 can't. It is a big boy. A main battle tank. The SOB has a turbine jet engine! can go 65MPh. I think a few of those deployed around the old grain elevator will change a lot of minds out in rural America.
All this bravado is commendable, in as much as it shows great passion. But if you are REALLY interested in taking on the U.S. Army, you better get off the Internet and spend the rest of your days totally committed to becoming very, very hard men.
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TPTB will set up a few false flags to undermine the integrity of rural militia units. They will demonize them in the media. They will paint the same picture they did of the Branch Davidians, Randy Weaver, the Freemen, etc...The ignorant sheeple who watch cable news will swallow it all and fear the Patriot militias more than the tyrants of the FedGov.

Again, I know of what I speak.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33285656


We all know this and that situation is not what I'm talking about.

What I'm referring to is, will you revert to the same tactics to further your cause?
 Quoting: Bent


Fuck, I don't have a "cause." I'm an old guy out in the woods hoping my country doesn't go into the shitter. I'm a gun totin' flag wavin' NRA and American Legion member disabled veteran patriot.
I think all this talk about taking on the FedGov is folly. They will fucking crush any resistance with overwhelming force.
War is for younger guys. I had my fun.
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I feel the same way. I'm an old guy. vet 19D. I don't have a cause either. I want the best for the country and to be left alone. It does seem to me though we're headed for something and someone has their foot on the accelerator. These times are odd and have a bad vibe to me.
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"I forgot Abrams don't "swim" to well so I guess swamp travel is out of the question also!"

I'm just using the machinery I'm familiar with as an example. They are at the A3 variant by now. There are other armored vehicles out there that can go where the M-1A1 can't. It is a big boy. A main battle tank. The SOB has a turbine jet engine! can go 65MPh. I think a few of those deployed around the old grain elevator will change a lot of minds out in rural America.
All this bravado is commendable, in as much as it shows great passion. But if you are REALLY interested in taking on the U.S. Army, you better get off the Internet and spend the rest of your days totally committed to becoming very, very hard men.
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if you were in theater in the Nam
then you would know that once a forward fire
base got gooks under the wire in the dark

it was all over

do you think that will change on American soil ??
me thinks not
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TPTB will set up a few false flags to undermine the integrity of rural militia units. They will demonize them in the media. They will paint the same picture they did of the Branch Davidians, Randy Weaver, the Freemen, etc...The ignorant sheeple who watch cable news will swallow it all and fear the Patriot militias more than the tyrants of the FedGov.

Again, I know of what I speak.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33285656


We all know this and that situation is not what I'm talking about.

What I'm referring to is, will you revert to the same tactics to further your cause?
 Quoting: Bent


Fuck, I don't have a "cause." I'm an old guy out in the woods hoping my country doesn't go into the shitter. I'm a gun totin' flag wavin' NRA and American Legion member disabled veteran patriot.
I think all this talk about taking on the FedGov is folly. They will fucking crush any resistance with overwhelming force.
War is for younger guys. I had my fun.
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No, I totally agree with the gov crushing anything they come up against. Just would like to hear different opinions is all. Thanks.
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Don't know much about 4th and 5th generation warfare I see.

When you understand clinton rules, the levels of warfare,open source insurgency and asymetric warfare just to name a few we might be able to have a theoretical conversation.
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"I forgot Abrams don't "swim" to well so I guess swamp travel is out of the question also!"

I'm just using the machinery I'm familiar with as an example. They are at the A3 variant by now. There are other armored vehicles out there that can go where the M-1A1 can't. It is a big boy. A main battle tank. The SOB has a turbine jet engine! can go 65MPh. I think a few of those deployed around the old grain elevator will change a lot of minds out in rural America.
All this bravado is commendable, in as much as it shows great passion. But if you are REALLY interested in taking on the U.S. Army, you better get off the Internet and spend the rest of your days totally committed to becoming very, very hard men.
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Why do you think a few tanks around a grain elevator will do or mean anything at all?

Sounds more laughable than anything else.

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I've got to go, but let me leave this thread with these comments:
We are in for some hard times due to the current police state mentality in DC and most state capitols.

But, the "America of Freedom and Liberty" died a slow cancerous death a long time ago. What we have now is the last gasp of a once proud nation's free citizens. Some of whom believe they can prevail in an armed conflict against the FedGov. I think this is foolish and the centralized Powers will crush all opposition. Quickly and mercilessly.

Time may be better spent working on a new political paradigm that can oppose them and beat them at their own game.

BTW, no one is coming for our guns. They will implode our economy and bleed us to death financially first.

Thanks for a stimulating thread.

Out.
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We all know this and that situation is not what I'm talking about.

What I'm referring to is, will you revert to the same tactics to further your cause?
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Fuck, I don't have a "cause." I'm an old guy out in the woods hoping my country doesn't go into the shitter. I'm a gun totin' flag wavin' NRA and American Legion member disabled veteran patriot.
I think all this talk about taking on the FedGov is folly. They will fucking crush any resistance with overwhelming force.
War is for younger guys. I had my fun.
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No, I totally agree with the gov crushing anything they come up against. Just would like to hear different opinions is all. Thanks.
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Don't know much about 4th and 5th generation warfare I see.

When you understand clinton rules, the levels of warfare,open source insurgency and asymetric warfare just to name a few we might be able to have a theoretical conversation.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


What I do see though, is that you like to litmus test everyone on this forum. How the hell can you test someone on an internet forum and be so sure they are who they say? You are delusional.
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"I forgot Abrams don't "swim" to well so I guess swamp travel is out of the question also!"

I'm just using the machinery I'm familiar with as an example. They are at the A3 variant by now. There are other armored vehicles out there that can go where the M-1A1 can't. It is a big boy. A main battle tank. The SOB has a turbine jet engine! can go 65MPh. I think a few of those deployed around the old grain elevator will change a lot of minds out in rural America.
All this bravado is commendable, in as much as it shows great passion. But if you are REALLY interested in taking on the U.S. Army, you better get off the Internet and spend the rest of your days totally committed to becoming very, very hard men.
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if you were in theater in the Nam
then you would know that once a forward fire
base got gooks under the wire in the dark

it was all over

do you think that will change on American soil ??
me thinks not
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P.S. I never said I was in Viet Nam!!! I joined the service in '82!
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"I forgot Abrams don't "swim" to well so I guess swamp travel is out of the question also!"

I'm just using the machinery I'm familiar with as an example. They are at the A3 variant by now. There are other armored vehicles out there that can go where the M-1A1 can't. It is a big boy. A main battle tank. The SOB has a turbine jet engine! can go 65MPh. I think a few of those deployed around the old grain elevator will change a lot of minds out in rural America.
All this bravado is commendable, in as much as it shows great passion. But if you are REALLY interested in taking on the U.S. Army, you better get off the Internet and spend the rest of your days totally committed to becoming very, very hard men.
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Why do you think a few tanks around a grain elevator will do or mean anything at all?

Sounds more laughable than anything else.
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And I'd take the advice of a battle hardened veteran any day than some keyboard commando who thinks they know fucking "clinton rules". Give me a break.
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Why do you think a few tanks around a grain elevator will do or mean anything at all?

Sounds more laughable than anything else.
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a tank sitting still becomes
a sitting duck

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