Patriots v.s. Government --- "Comparison" - "By The Numbers"

TPTB will set up a few false flags to undermine the integrity of rural militia units. They will demonize them in the media. They will paint the same picture they did of the Branch Davidians, Randy Weaver, the Freemen, etc...The ignorant sheeple who watch cable news will swallow it all and fear the Patriot militias more than the tyrants of the FedGov.

Again, I know of what I speak.

I'll try not to take your "coward" comment personally, but if you met me you'd probably not think me a pessimist or coward. I wouldn't even wear my bronze star or purple heart, just so you don't feel like a complete douche in my presence.
I know of what I speak. I am a 56 y/o disabled vet. I did my part. I am simply being realistic. This is not a movie or video game that you propose.
Burning patriot flesh smells exactly like burning trooper's flesh.

Remember, you too will be firing on Americans who have sworn an oath to defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign or domestic. Guess who the American people will label the "domestic enemy"? The ones without the matching digital BDUs.

Oh, and quit jacking off and go join the military and change things from the INSIDE. Douche.

On your own people? That is about the dumbest thing possible.

can you say Khe San or Saigon ??
I knew you could ;)

I'm not advocating for any of this, I'm just using my objective critical thinking skills and experience to throw some light on this subject.
They will set up combat teams geographically - all soldiers from, say, South Dakota will be sent to fight in Georgia. Troops from Compton in L.A. will be going to Tennessee and so forth.


They will cut power, fuel and food supplies to any areas that resist. There won't be any newscasts because the FedGov has taken that over. I worked for nine years on active duty in military "Public Affairs" or as they more accurately say psy-op propaganda. You will only get the FedGov's take on things and it will be far from the truth.
They will simply gas your ass. incinerate entire towns that resist. Farms. Encampments. You just won't wake up one morning. WTF do TPTB care? Is the UN gonna send in blue helmeted Pakistani's to help the poor besieged Patriots? Look at Syria for a taste of what this could devolve into. If it comes to this, it is a zero-sum game and TPTB plan on winning.

You should be 100 percent certain and committed to what you are willing to fight for, 'cause no matter how you slice it, it isn't pretty.

Ignore that guy throwing insults around and please comment more. I am interested in your views. I think you are offering a realistic if bleak view and that is better than false optimism and unreasonable expectations if something like what is being discussed were ever to occur.

We all know this and that situation is not what I'm talking about.

What I'm referring to is, will you revert to the same tactics to further your cause?

Would it be beneficial to consider weaponry instead of just "boots on the ground?" I was a combat medic in an armored battalion and developed great respect for heavy weapons with state of the art technology onboard. A squad of M-1A1 Abrams tanks vs. AKs and ARs ??? This isn't the 18th century when both sides had comparable arms. Most of your tough talking wanna-be militia neighbors will piss themselves. Then they'll turn in their guns and snitch on you.
Jes' sayin'...take care of your own shit and ignore everybody else.
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pussy, come on. it will be fun. better than playing video games all day. i'm in.

Are you saying you were at Khe Sanh?

Fuck, I don't have a "cause." I'm an old guy out in the woods hoping my country doesn't go into the shitter. I'm a gun totin' flag wavin' NRA and American Legion member disabled veteran patriot.
I think all this talk about taking on the FedGov is folly. They will fucking crush any resistance with overwhelming force.
War is for younger guys. I had my fun.

Tanks are great on flat terrain or on wide roads, even then they need infantry support and resupply constantly.
(Abrams were designed for open field, small village, Eastern Europe battlefield conditions, and fighting Russian tanks.)
So in some areas of the East and Mid West, they would be quite formidable.
In the mountains and canyons where even a motor bike has a problem going, well so much for Tanks and APC's or anything else, but humans!

Then it truly becomes Ak's and Ar's.

I misspelled it intentionally
to test you if you were there :)

thanks for stepping up

I think all this talk about taking on the FedGov is folly. They will fucking crush any resistance with overwhelming force.

I'll try not to take your "coward" comment personally, but if you met me you'd probably not think me a pessimist or coward. I wouldn't even wear my bronze star or purple heart, just so you don't feel like a complete douche in my presence.
I know of what I speak. I am a 56 y/o disabled vet. I did my part. I am simply being realistic. This is not a movie or video game that you propose.
Burning patriot flesh smells exactly like burning trooper's flesh.

Remember, you too will be firing on Americans who have sworn an oath to defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign or domestic. Guess who the American people will label the "domestic enemy"? The ones without the matching digital BDUs.

Oh, and quit jacking off and go join the military and change things from the INSIDE. Douche.

Fuck, I don't have a "cause." I'm an old guy out in the woods hoping my country doesn't go into the shitter. I'm a gun totin' flag wavin' NRA and American Legion member disabled veteran patriot.
I think all this talk about taking on the FedGov is folly. They will fucking crush any resistance with overwhelming force.
War is for younger guys. I had my fun.

"I forgot Abrams don't "swim" to well so I guess swamp travel is out of the question also!"

I'm just using the machinery I'm familiar with as an example. They are at the A3 variant by now. There are other armored vehicles out there that can go where the M-1A1 can't. It is a big boy. A main battle tank. The SOB has a turbine jet engine! can go 65MPh. I think a few of those deployed around the old grain elevator will change a lot of minds out in rural America.
All this bravado is commendable, in as much as it shows great passion. But if you are REALLY interested in taking on the U.S. Army, you better get off the Internet and spend the rest of your days totally committed to becoming very, very hard men.

No, I totally agree with the gov crushing anything they come up against. Just would like to hear different opinions is all. Thanks.

"I forgot Abrams don't "swim" to well so I guess swamp travel is out of the question also!"

I'm just using the machinery I'm familiar with as an example. They are at the A3 variant by now. There are other armored vehicles out there that can go where the M-1A1 can't. It is a big boy. A main battle tank. The SOB has a turbine jet engine! can go 65MPh. I think a few of those deployed around the old grain elevator will change a lot of minds out in rural America.
All this bravado is commendable, in as much as it shows great passion. But if you are REALLY interested in taking on the U.S. Army, you better get off the Internet and spend the rest of your days totally committed to becoming very, very hard men.

Don't know much about 4th and 5th generation warfare I see.

When you understand clinton rules, the levels of warfare,open source insurgency and asymetric warfare just to name a few we might be able to have a theoretical conversation.

if you were in theater in the Nam
then you would know that once a forward fire
base got gooks under the wire in the dark

it was all over

do you think that will change on American soil ??
me thinks not

Why do you think a few tanks around a grain elevator will do or mean anything at all?

Sounds more laughable than anything else.

Why do you think a few tanks around a grain elevator will do or mean anything at all?

Sounds more laughable than anything else.

P.S. I never said I was in Viet Nam!!! I joined the service in '82!