Ethan is out!!! Dykes is dead!!! Praise God!!!!

Arrington confirmed that Dykes held anti-government views, as described by multiple neighbors: "He's against the government -- starting with Obama on down."

"He doesn't like law enforcement or the government telling him what to do," the police chief said. "He's just a loner."

^^so now they are playing the anti-gov/loner bs, too..let's note the usual checklist: bold items are the usual scenario stereotypes of perps in the wave of shootings in recent past..prepper and bunker have not been common, but have happened, not involving children, tho..

1)anti-gov
2)loner
3)military background
4)"prepper"
5)owns guns
6)alleged past violence
7)alleged past threats
8)has tornado shelter they are calling a "bunker"
9)killed bus driver(using gun)
10)perp has 3 names

when are they going to play the "on meds" card?

so far, it is the stereotypical perp we have had, lately in the wave of shootings..

this time, they added prepper and bunker to the list...wonder how many more of these we are going to be seeing?

also new is the age of perp...had been mostly teens to 20 somethings...

I am not, in any way, saying this situation is fake..I am, however, pointing out similarities that "HELP" tptb in their gun control push..conveniently, too. ;(

Last Edited by Abi ~ on 02/01/2013 04:02 PM

and here we go...

No motive has been discussed by investigators, but the police chief said the FBI had evidence suggesting it could be considered a hate crime

[link to www.foxnews.com]

arrested for marijuana possession in 2000.

what could be a "hate crime"? (in his case I mean)


Anyway, the man shot a family and was going to court these days, or so I read. How was he free till the trial?

I am furthering my research on the recent wave of shootings because something is nagging at the back of my mind...

I came across this..interesting how times have changed...

November 2, 1853: Louisville, Kentucky
A student, Matthew Ward, bought a self-cocking pistol in the morning, went to school and killed schoolmaster Mr. Butler for excessively punishing his brother the day before. Even though he shot the schoolmaster point blank in front of his classmates, he was acquitted.



January 26, 1876: San Francisco, California
A young boy at the Lincoln Primary School, accidentally shot himself while playing with a pistol under his desk. His fingers were badly hurt, and he received a flesh wound to his leg. The Principal, Miss Kate Sullivan sent him home in the hopes that his parents will teach him to be a little more careful when handling firearms


April 9, 1891: Newburgh, New York
James Ferguson, 70, fired a shotgun at a group of students in the playground of St. Mary's Parochial School, causing minor injuries to several of the students. The first known mass shooting in the U.S. where students were shot by an American citizen. The majority of attacks during this time period by students on other students or teachers usually involved stabbing with knives or hitting with stones

There were very seldom reports of mass or multiple school shootings during the first three decades of the 20th Century, with the three most violent attacks on schools involving either arson or explosions


WTF??
****May 18, 1978: Austin, Texas
John Daniel Christian, 13, son of Lyndon B. Johnson's former press secretary George Christian, shot to death his English teacher, Wilbur Grayson, 29, with his father's .22 caliber rifle in front of approximately 30 classmates. John Christian was never prosecuted and is now a practicing attorney in Austin, Texas.

My point>>It appears, in the past, there WERE school shootings..reasons for them range from
1)REJECTED SUITORS
2)AVOIDANCE OF PUNISHMENT
3)TEACHER WHIPPING CHILD/shot by parent or sibling
4)JESSE JAMES COPYCATS
5)ACCIDENTS/many
6)REAL GUNS USED IN SCHOOL PLAYS ACCIDENTALLY LOADED
7)JEALOUSY

According to the U.S. Department of Education, in the 1998-1999 School Year, 3,523 students (57% High School, 33% Junior High, 10% Elementary) were expelled for bringing a firearm to school

So, considering school shootings have been happening since the 1800's, at least, what has changed?

what has created this out of control, almost daily, outbreak of school shootings?

Of people(all ages)walking into a public place and just randomly killing innocents..??

Is it meds?......an increase in population, thus more crazy people walking around?.....the government?...mind control? ......tptb creating situations to serve their purposes?


Or, has it always been there? ...............only the MSM was not televising it 24/7....the internet was not around to search for the news.....tptb were not pushing to take away our 2nd amendment rights, thus, the "constant, in your face, news" was not happening...

with the constant advertising of school shootings, comes the copycats..same as in the 1800's with Jesse James. Fame! Adoration! Glory!
The more people heard about it, the more he was idolized, copied..

So, is it possible that this all boils down to the fact that the government, using the MSMis further creating a
PROBLEM
for a
REACTION
to impose "THEIR"
SOLUTION
control

and that the people who are committing these shootings are doing it because they are mentally unstable and pushed over the edge by the constant access to it all???

If so, think about that...
Is it possible that further events could be minimized by NOT COVERING the events, stopping the 24/7 coverage of the animals that do these horrible acts?..?? Would that prevent the idolizors? (sp?) The copycats? The wanna-be's?


Or would it be better to start making examples of the ones that commit these crimes...to discourage it from happening..some tortuous punishment..drawn and quartered?
something so horrible, no one will want to engage in a school or public shooting, again.

Or, we could let the law abiding citizens carry concealed and I imagine most of this nonsense will stop.

Just something to think about because the government is not going to fix this problem..even if they ban guns, it will still happen..
WE need to stop this. WE have the right to defend ourselves and our property and most of all, WE have the RIGHT and the DUTY to keep OUR CHILDREN SAFE!!!

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

He is now being called the "survivalist killer"

LET THIS BOY GO! Thank YOU, Lord! Amen!

Wow. My brain is going in fifty different directions. I'd bet my last dollar this is true. They created a problem to later create a solution. It all adds up!

Wow. My brain is going in fifty different directions. I'd bet my last dollar this is true. They created a problem to later create a solution. It all adds up!

That is the very point of false flag operations...however, it goes MUCH deeper than this my friend.

The survivalist killer.

How convenient.

Any thoughts on how deep this one goes ?

I was speaking in general terms of "false flag" events and not specifically to this situation. However, I told my wife a few weeks ago that I'd bet that something happens in regards to a school bus and school kids and I'll be damned if it hasn't come to pass.

The kid on Anderson Cooper earlier tonight repeated called Jimmy Lee Dikes, "not a normal human being". I have a hard time with those particular choice of words from someone local. (I live about an hour away from Midland). Most people down this way would have summed him (JLD) as "strange" and left it at that.

It seems that some dark forces are targeting soft spots and sensitive areas of the most basic human being....emotion. And they are using our children and need to shelter then from harm to do this.

My wife and I have an eight y.o. child. He rides a school bus most every day. Maybe that is why I was thinking something would happen on a school bus. We have held him out of school twice since the Sandy Hook shooting. On both occasions we just thought it wasn't a good day for him to go to school.

Daycare and/or Sunday schools are next. I just have a feeling it will not be long.

Evil is upon us.

We are on the same page.

Keep up with the practice of absent days when it feels right to do so. Use your heart for guidence, and you brain to figure out how to make it happen.

Psy Op or not.

We will discuss that when its all over.

Hows the situation coming along?

And updates?

11) pot smoker

Nothing new..

No, there's nothing new. I just watched the local news, and they repeated the same things over and over again.

I know. Something's just a little fishy about this situation. But as long as Ethan's released, I will be happy.

Well, I"m going to bed. I pray to be pleasantly surprised in the morning! Gnight everyone.

Last Edited by Dease on 02/02/2013 01:46 AM

Me, too, OP, me too..who cares about all that...you are right..stay focused, Abi~...!!!

ETA, nite OP ;)

Last Edited by Abi ~ on 02/02/2013 01:47 AM

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Alabama 'survivalist killer' wants a reporter sent into underground bunker to tell his story in exchange for releasing 5-year-old hostage

WTF?? He made that offer on the FIRST day...why is that little boy still in there? Did NO reporter take him up on it or did they not allow it? The article did not say...

it also said they xrayed the "bunker" and verified it was wired with explosives...

this is BS!

snip
n those first crucial hours, Vietnam veteran Dykes attempted to strike his bargain – the boy in return for a reporter to tell his story of ‘how the government had screwed him.’

MailOnline has learned that Jimmy Lee Dykes made the extraordinary offer on the first day

if it is true, that is..;) searching for more info..

Last Edited by Abi ~ on 02/02/2013 08:21 PM

Vietnam veteran with anti-government views, authorities and an organization that tracks hate groups said on Wednesday.

"He was standoffish, didn't socialize or have any contact with anybody," Byrd told Hatewatch.

Dykes had not been on the law center's radar before the shooting and standoff, and there was nothing to suggest he was a member of any hate group, said senior fellow Mark Potok.

but then, they say this

"What it looks like is that he's some kind of anti-government radical and survivalist," Potok told Reuters. "And exactly what that means, we don't know."

[link to www.orlandosentinel.com]

Ok. so referring back to the hate crime issue from yesterday or day before...apparently the"hatewatch" org was tracking info on him??

BUT, If he was so anti-social, why did he invite one of the neighbors down in the bunker?


[link to www.foxnews.com]

Neighbor Michael Creel said Dykes put the plastic pipe underground from the bunker to the end of his driveway so he could hear if anyone drove up to his gate. When Dykes finished the shelter a year or so ago, he invited Creel to see it -- and he did.

Dykes wrote a 2- to 3-page letter that at least in part addressed the menacing case.

Michael Creel said he hasn't seen the letter but that his father, Greg Creel, has. Dykes reportedly told the elder Creel he had sent the letter to the local media, politicians and Alabama's governor.
Police on Friday took a copy of the letter from the Creels' home, according to Michael Creel. Reached for comment, Greg Creel confirmed the existence of the letter but declined further comment and said he was cooperating with police

wonder what's in that letter?

The FBI does not have a good track record in standoffs where children are involved. I hope everyone is praying.

They also think that only the crazy people who have bugable landline phones are dangerous, but that is just me speaking from personal experience.

why don't they just send any adult in there with camera to tv channel so he gets his story out,and at least child gets out.?

I would be willing to do it. I am a talk show host and a part time freelance reporter.

Last Edited by tiger1 on 02/02/2013 11:36 PM

i would,added bonus,i'm nuts,he'd love me!