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What will be the first signs of the coming collapse if and when it happens?

 
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What will be the first signs of the coming collapse if and when it happens?
There is news everywhere on the internet about an upcoming financial collapse or society collapsing in America. We all know, I'm sure many of you have read more than your fair share of "doom" stories.

The main stream media doesn't report anything, but it's usual "everything is fine" propaganda of course, but what do people think will be the first signs of the collapse and how fast do you think it will take for chaos to ensue?
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Re: What will be the first signs of the coming collapse if and when it happens?
There will be no signs.....
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Re: What will be the first signs of the coming collapse if and when it happens?
There will be no signs.....
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Correct.
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Re: What will be the first signs of the coming collapse if and when it happens?
When the Black Death hit in Europe, most people learned of it when they woke up and found everyone else dead.

When Chernobyl caught fire, the people a hundred miles away died much later, many of whom had no idea why.

When the Tsunami hit Indonesia, there were a few minutes of "what is that?" followed by about half a million bodies floating through town.

Such is the face of DOOM.
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Re: What will be the first signs of the coming collapse if and when it happens?
Ok, well maybe I'm asking the wrong question. What will the "sheeple" have to go through or experience in order for them to know things have fallen apart? Runs on banks? A wake up call early in the morning from their friends telling them they need to get to the grocery store and get as much food as they can and gas up their vehicles? Or will they get the news by watching the idiot box and start panicking? Or???
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Ok, well maybe I'm asking the wrong question. What will the "sheeple" have to go through or experience in order for them to know things have fallen apart? Runs on banks? A wake up call early in the morning from their friends telling them they need to get to the grocery store and get as much food as they can and gas up their vehicles? Or will they get the news by watching the idiot box and start panicking? Or???
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No power or internet.
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Re: What will be the first signs of the coming collapse if and when it happens?
It will hit faster than the ammo crisis and the grocery stores will be cleaned out in 6 hours. Many on this forum will be caught flat footed and without food. After all, this is the USA. It could never happen here.....
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Re: What will be the first signs of the coming collapse if and when it happens?
Ok, well maybe I'm asking the wrong question. What will the "sheeple" have to go through or experience in order for them to know things have fallen apart? Runs on banks? A wake up call early in the morning from their friends telling them they need to get to the grocery store and get as much food as they can and gas up their vehicles? Or will they get the news by watching the idiot box and start panicking? Or???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31002285


POWER.

Once this lynchpin is removed from the population, everything else will fall into place.

No power means the banks will be closed.

No power means that there will be no fuel pumped for vehicles.

No power means that there will be very limited backup generation capabilities due to fuel distribution issues.

No power means that food production will grind to a halt.

No power means no electrical well or central water supplies.

No power means no television or communications.

No power means no traffic lights or other controls which is an excellent reason to restrict travel for "your safety".

POWER.
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Re: What will be the first signs of the coming collapse if and when it happens?
Ok, well maybe I'm asking the wrong question. What will the "sheeple" have to go through or experience in order for them to know things have fallen apart? Runs on banks? A wake up call early in the morning from their friends telling them they need to get to the grocery store and get as much food as they can and gas up their vehicles? Or will they get the news by watching the idiot box and start panicking? Or???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31002285


POWER.

Once this lynchpin is removed from the population, everything else will fall into place.

No power means the banks will be closed.

No power means that there will be no fuel pumped for vehicles.

No power means that there will be very limited backup generation capabilities due to fuel distribution issues.

No power means that food production will grind to a halt.

No power means no electrical well or central water supplies.

No power means no television or communications.

No power means no traffic lights or other controls which is an excellent reason to restrict travel for "your safety".

POWER.

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That explains why the Iranians & Chinese are REALLY REALLY interested in developing EMP Bombs. They are putting a lot of $$$ behind it.
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Re: What will be the first signs of the coming collapse if and when it happens?
Ok, well maybe I'm asking the wrong question. What will the "sheeple" have to go through or experience in order for them to know things have fallen apart? Runs on banks? A wake up call early in the morning from their friends telling them they need to get to the grocery store and get as much food as they can and gas up their vehicles? Or will they get the news by watching the idiot box and start panicking? Or???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31002285


POWER.

Once this lynchpin is removed from the population, everything else will fall into place.

No power means the banks will be closed.

No power means that there will be no fuel pumped for vehicles.

No power means that there will be very limited backup generation capabilities due to fuel distribution issues.

No power means that food production will grind to a halt.

No power means no electrical well or central water supplies.

No power means no television or communications.

No power means no traffic lights or other controls which is an excellent reason to restrict travel for "your safety".

POWER.

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That explains why the Iranians & Chinese are REALLY REALLY interested in developing EMP Bombs. They are putting a lot of $$$ behind it.
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You are wise.

As a result, please understand that this is for the good of humans as a race. All humans. China, Iran, North Korea, India, and many other nations that are on "the other side" are in fact part of the same plan.

This is a worldwide effort that cannot fail.

From the fire and ashes will rise the Phoenix to a glorious and shining future for all.
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Re: What will be the first signs of the coming collapse if and when it happens?
Everyone who thinks there is going to be one massive burst of doom is wrong. There will be no warnings. No signs. Just a gradual slip into the abyss. Day by day. A little at a time.

Just look around you. Do you see that things are getting better? Or do you see people barely hanging on waiting for the next shoe to drop?

It's all about human behavior.
Man has evolved barely an inch from the very slime that spawned him.
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Re: What will be the first signs of the coming collapse if and when it happens?
collapse is a process, not an event
its happenin now, just look
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Re: What will be the first signs of the coming collapse if and when it happens?
One day soon they launch a staged attack and troops will be deployed. and grocery stores will be cleaned out in a matter of hours. Get your stuff, now.
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Re: What will be the first signs of the coming collapse if and when it happens?
It is already in progress, but
I think the masses will become aware when
food stamp benefits are cut, then stop.

I'm still not sure if we will see Chinese
and Russian nationals on our streets before or
after. They'll be in uniform though, so won't
blend into the general population.

I think the internet will be usurped by the US
military which will turn out to defend the streets
of America whether the feds order it or not,
and will become very slow as bandwidths are rationed.

Power won't stop but will become intermittent
depending on where you are and who is fighting
whom in what sector.

Confusion will be rampant.
Janus198
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Re: What will be the first signs of the coming collapse if and when it happens?
When the Black Death hit in Europe, most people learned of it when they woke up and found everyone else dead.

When Chernobyl caught fire, the people a hundred miles away died much later, many of whom had no idea why.

When the Tsunami hit Indonesia, there were a few minutes of "what is that?" followed by about half a million bodies floating through town.

Such is the face of DOOM.
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ohyeah
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Re: What will be the first signs of the coming collapse if and when it happens?
nope, most of you are wrong, there will be signs, it's just they will be subtle and missed by the majority.

warning #1 countries seeking to pre-emptively protect themselves.

this is happening already, check out Zero Hedge, for more MSM check out the Telegraph blog postings by a couple of their financial writers.

warning #2 authorities seeking to limit society collapse. They need to do this because they know the SHTF when the currency collapses and no ruler wants their power to dissapate if they can avoid it.

I would say this is also already happening, civil freedoms are being limited and various law enforcement bodies are untaking what might be considered unusual exercises, again this is well documented and if this is new to you, well then, welcome to GLP, you might like it here.

warning #3 key rich individuals and asset managers taking defensive, possibly unorthodix strategies to protect their value.

I would say this is happening, Soros and others leaving the mainstream equity and bond market to others with less foresight, investing in, for example, physical gold and gold miners.

there are still some warnings which haven't happened yet which I can share if you want, will do so later, doing this at work and the Syndicate desk are busy and want things done so run out of time right now.
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Re: What will be the first signs of the coming collapse if and when it happens?
Well the first sign is a complacency and ignorance in the body public. The second sign is them telling you everything is ok after that you wonder why you are broke and hungry
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Re: What will be the first signs of the coming collapse if and when it happens?
There is news everywhere on the internet about an upcoming financial collapse or society collapsing in America. We all know, I'm sure many of you have read more than your fair share of "doom" stories.

The main stream media doesn't report anything, but it's usual "everything is fine" propaganda of course, but what do people think will be the first signs of the collapse and how fast do you think it will take for chaos to ensue?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31002285


The most likely scenario for a slow collapse is a disturbance of the supply chain. Products will not be on store shelves and over time, more and more will not be there. Then people will grow alarmed.
Thread: Human survivability with supply chain disruptions and its effect on populations

In a fast decline, you will go to the grocery and your debit/credit card won't work.

See my prepping topic link in my sig for numerous scenarios about that.
In a nutshell, there will be rumors of bank runs.People will rush to the grocey and be unable to pay cash. Some will rush to the banks and get large bills, but the grocery won't be able to make change. They don't have much cash on purpose, because they don't want to get robbed.


Long term, money could be worthless, but still might be traded because a common currency will help facilitate bartering on local farmer's market trading days.
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Re: What will be the first signs of the coming collapse if and when it happens?
recall; war is about resources

and the distrbution for profit
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Re: What will be the first signs of the coming collapse if and when it happens?
We already are seeing three major signs:
1) Very large purchases of gun and ammunition.
2) Very large cash withdrawals from the stock market and banking.
3) Nations demanding physical gold as well as major corporations (150), many of which have higher worth than nations.

Folks, it's go time. If you're not actively prepping and learning skills every day to cope, then when it finally goes belly up, and a fragile society based upon barge traffic and trucking can't cope with supply needs, then you're all screwed!

It's my belief, and I know I'm in the minority, that most Americans are sheep and will be in shock, and will die of a)dehydration first. Then a wave of weakening Americans will b)die from starvation. In the interim, c)druggies will prey on retired folks who have a high percent net worth plus medications. Then some d)random wannabee gangsters. Then some organized crazies, probably e)religious but evil folks.

Sexual slavery, slavery for agricultural use, robbery, and murder will come, but not by shootouts, but by ramming homes with trucks and starting fires. That will be far more effective in a world without ammunition.

Get right with God, arm yourselves, buy supplies, and learn skills. It's that easy. But don't think you're going to do a castle defense when you don't own a castle. You probably can't defend yourself unless you have a ton of ammunition and work together in a tribal way to repel.

Most of those folks attacking will not be trained. The ones who join up will evil fundamentalists, and there's been many scenarios of that happening where some mad prophet stirs up the weak sheep, will likely embrace cannibalism as well. These are the ones you need to worry about.

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Re: What will be the first signs of the coming collapse if and when it happens?
Its always about the dollar; when interest rates rise even by a 1/4% its game over for US! This is what will start an unfortunate chain of events.
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Re: What will be the first signs of the coming collapse if and when it happens?
Look up the Argentine economic collapse. The book "Surviving the Economic Collapse" by Ferfal Aguirre gives first hand knowledge about what happens and what will happen. A lot of stuff won't go down the way you think it will.
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Re: What will be the first signs of the coming collapse if and when it happens?
There is news everywhere on the internet about an upcoming financial collapse or society collapsing in America. We all know, I'm sure many of you have read more than your fair share of "doom" stories.

The main stream media doesn't report anything, but it's usual "everything is fine" propaganda of course, but what do people think will be the first signs of the collapse and how fast do you think it will take for chaos to ensue?
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One of the signs will be the Secretary of the Treasury to go on live television to declare at the podium a "Force Majeure".
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Re: What will be the first signs of the coming collapse if and when it happens?
watch the movie "it´s a disaster" - i think that´s the way it will happen if something happens.
only few will know and most will be in denial.

btw, it would be no "doom" if we would know it is going to happen well before it happens - it always was and will be a surprise party.

i do think it´s better that way, if i knew there is really significant doom happen next sunday, i will get all stressed by preparing and thinking and not sleeping well.
if it just happens and i wake up in a doom situation one morning, i will respond to it as my intuition tells me to, and i truly believe that way i´ll be able to make the best outcome of it.
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Re: What will be the first signs of the coming collapse if and when it happens?
nope, most of you are wrong, there will be signs, it's just they will be subtle and missed by the majority.

warning #1 countries seeking to pre-emptively protect themselves.

this is happening already, check out Zero Hedge, for more MSM check out the Telegraph blog postings by a couple of their financial writers.

warning #2 authorities seeking to limit society collapse. They need to do this because they know the SHTF when the currency collapses and no ruler wants their power to dissapate if they can avoid it.

I would say this is also already happening, civil freedoms are being limited and various law enforcement bodies are untaking what might be considered unusual exercises, again this is well documented and if this is new to you, well then, welcome to GLP, you might like it here.

warning #3 key rich individuals and asset managers taking defensive, possibly unorthodix strategies to protect their value.

I would say this is happening, Soros and others leaving the mainstream equity and bond market to others with less foresight, investing in, for example, physical gold and gold miners.

there are still some warnings which haven't happened yet which I can share if you want, will do so later, doing this at work and the Syndicate desk are busy and want things done so run out of time right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1575912


this is very true--- this is why they are trying for a gun grab-- of course this will be very unsuccessful as Americans will not allow this.... you mentioned miners and you are right-- like Chapman said and always recommended--- Hellix and Pretium----- these will fly once it all unhinges-- and it will
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