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WARNING TO TRUSTING WOMEN: Men Have Become Psychotic - Updated w/Statistics - Page 5

 
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This Thread is about the fact that women need to realize their lives are really in danger if the man they are with has 'problems.'
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Oh what so, "don't date psychos"?


No shit Sherlock, you really needed to make this massive thread for that?

But that's not actually what you are saying now is it.

Your thread's title and the content of your first post is at odds with that statement.

Men Have Become Psychotic

Men today will not accept rejection. They cannot deal with it.

They will retaliate not only against a woman, but against the couple's children, even against an innocent pet.


Your intentions are obvious, so there's no point in trying to dilute your message now, it's men, all men, everywhere.

But STATISTICALLY, more violent crime is man-against-girlfriend... violent crime that requires surgery, rehabilitation, or CREMATION.
 Quoting: 13th-Century


Is it?

You have data that refutes gender symmetry? Let's see it.
You have data that refutes the Straus & Gelles studies?
You have data the refutes the US Justice Dept findings?

Well instead of regaling us with horror stories like some sensationalist tabloid why don't you start posting some hard data?

So far all you have demonstrated is rampant confirmation bias.

Hard data, let's see the numbers.
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How many guys become depressed when a relationship ends, go to the doctor, get an anti depressant, take it and...


Before SSRIs, they would just go out and tie one on when their relationships went belly up.
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This Thread is about the fact that women need to realize their lives are really in danger if the man they are with has 'problems.'
 Quoting: 13th-Century


Oh what so, "don't date psychos"?


No shit Sherlock, you really needed to make this massive thread for that?

But that's not actually what you are saying now is it.

Your thread's title and the content of your first post is at odds with that statement.

Men Have Become Psychotic

Men today will not accept rejection. They cannot deal with it.

They will retaliate not only against a woman, but against the couple's children, even against an innocent pet.


Your intentions are obvious, so there's no point in trying to dilute your message now, it's men, all men, everywhere.

But STATISTICALLY, more violent crime is man-against-girlfriend... violent crime that requires surgery, rehabilitation, or CREMATION.
 Quoting: 13th-Century


Is it?

You have data that refutes gender symmetry? Let's see it.
You have data that refutes the Straus & Gelles studies?
You have data the refutes the US Justice Dept findings?

Well instead of regaling us with horror stories like some sensationalist tabloid why don't you start posting some hard data?

So far all you have demonstrated is rampant confirmation bias.

Hard data, let's see the numbers.
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* * * * * *

No, I am not backing down on this Thread, which seems to make men super-defensive, and verbally insulting, kicking the ball way out of bounds (ha), instead of examining, like I have, the dynamics of toxic relationships today, and precisely and honestly which gender bears the responsibility for killing people in these emotional situations.

Women tend to make 'excuses' for abusive men - it's his job pressures, money problems, he had one too many, whatever.

Everybody will have PROBLEMS, but men now are becoming psychotic - meaning, instead of dealing with their issues, they let inner rage grow inside of them and then act out with totally irrational and disproportionate violence.

Girls and women - beware - It is not safe to risk your life, and that of a child, or a child you might want to give birth to someday, because you want to keep dreaming about a white picket fence somewhere.

You need to do a thorough background check on every man before the first date. Ask him for family, friends, business, and medical references. Take a chaperone along for the first month. Be sure to tell him that the people in your immediate circle would never tolerate anyone abusing you, and that they mean what they say.

If your would-be new friend backs off, good riddance! If he looks at you with respect and takes your requests seriously, you may have a winner.

STATISTICS

The problem with some statistics out there is that they group together all instances of domestic violence. So "she slapped his face" gets the same incident frequency as "he tried to strangle her."

But I challenge anyone to face up to these facts:

Articles I have referenced below include, but are not limited to, the Wikipedia entry on "Domestic Violence in the United States" (Wikipedia [link to en.wikipedia.org]

(1) MURDER STATISTICS

References

"Domestic Abuse Intervention Programs, Home of the Duluth Model". Theduluthmodel.org. [link to www.theduluthmodel.org] Retrieved 2010-04-26

"CDC - Injury - Intimate Partner Violence Consequences". Cdc.gov. 2009-12-14. [link to www.cdc.gov] Retrieved 2010-04-26

Catalano, Shannan. 2007. Intimate Partner Violence in the United States. U.S. Department of Justice, Bureau of Justice Statistics. Available at [link to www.ojp.usdoj.gov]

"Women are more likely than men to be murdered by an intimate partner. Of those killed by an intimate partner, about three quarters are female and about a quarter are male. In 1999 in the United States, 1,218 women and 424 men were killed by an intimate partner, and 1,181 females and 329 males were killed by their intimate partners in 2005."

On average more than three women a day are murdered by their husbands or boyfriends in the United States. In 2005, 1,181 women were murdered by an intimate partner.

(2)

Reference
A Sociologist’s Perspective on Domestic Violence, A Conversation with Michael Johnson, Ph.D. Theodora Ooms, interviewer. Center for Law and Social Policty (CLASP). Page 3. Retrieved November 20, 2011.

Family Violence Statistics: Including Statistics on Strangers and Acquaintances. 2005. U.S. Department of Justice, Bureau of Justice Statistics. Available at [link to www.ojp.usdoj.gov]

"Women are as likely as men to be abusers, however, women are more likely to be physically injured, require police intervention and become fearful of their mates."

"Women are 84 percent of spouse abuse victims and 86 percent of victims of abuse at the hands of a boyfriend or girlfriend and about three-fourths of the persons who commit family violence are male."

(3)
Reference
[link to www.ojp.usdoj.gov]

"The National Institute of Justice contends that national surveys supported by NIJ, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the Bureau of Justice Statistics that examine more serious assaults do not support the conclusion of similar rates of male and female spousal assaults. These surveys are conducted within a safety or crime context and clearly find more partner abuse by men against women."

(4)
Reference

In-depth study on all forms of violence against women. United Nations, General Assembly. 6 July 2006. Page 48. Retrieved 16 November 2011.

"The United States was one of the countries identified by a United Nations study with a high rate of domestic violence resulting in death during pregnancy."

Hope this helps.

Looks like the men reading this need more help than the women.

Why am I surprised?
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You bet, Bump - but the mods aren't pinning this.
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if i women goes missing there's a high probability her bf/husband was involved.

does this mean all men are bad? or if a woman goes missing her bf/husband was involved? no, of course not.

but it does mean TOO MANY men feel its ok to brutalize the women they should be loving & protecting.
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if i women goes missing there's a high probability her bf/husband was involved.

does this mean all men are bad? or if a woman goes missing her bf/husband was involved? no, of course not.

but it does mean TOO MANY men feel its ok to brutalize the women they should be loving & protecting.
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TOO MANY.
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A tiny portion of a given population does something, and that makes it alright to malign millions, billions, of good people that have never done what you're implying?

Plus, a lot of your statistics are badly biased in potential. Using any crime statistic is automatically going to skew the numbers in this case, since men are many, many more times to be reported for abuse, by a spouse, partner, hospital or police than the other way around.

So much so that there is no way to understand the real scope of abuse against men in the western world.

The pretense that, since it isn't reported, it doesn't exist, isn't allowed for any other kind of crime, but is acceptable in this case?

Also, a person fearing another is NOT indicative of the second party having done anything violent, wrong or illegal. Many women will claim to be "fearful" of a man who has shown no anger or even raised a voice, because they wish to control the situation. Is the fear real? Possibly, but that shouldn't be used as a point to condemn others.
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A tiny portion of a given population does something, and that makes it alright to malign millions, billions, of good people that have never done what you're implying?

Plus, a lot of your statistics are badly biased in potential. Using any crime statistic is automatically going to skew the numbers in this case, since men are many, many more times to be reported for abuse, by a spouse, partner, hospital or police than the other way around.

So much so that there is no way to understand the real scope of abuse against men in the western world.

The pretense that, since it isn't reported, it doesn't exist, isn't allowed for any other kind of crime, but is acceptable in this case?

Also, a person fearing another is NOT indicative of the second party having done anything violent, wrong or illegal. Many women will claim to be "fearful" of a man who has shown no anger or even raised a voice, because they wish to control the situation. Is the fear real? Possibly, but that shouldn't be used as a point to condemn others.
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You have not read the statistics given. I have not been talking about "FEARFUL WOMEN."

I have been talking about "DEAD WOMEN."
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This guy never liked football.

So while all the jocks get their thrills from vicarious rigged sports - hard to do, when DOOM is playing out with the power -

Okay, ladies. Now is your time to think through what you've gotten yourself into.
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This is bullshit
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Hell hath NO fury like a MAN scorned!
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This is bullshit
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Thank you for your comment, Herr Doktor. I take it that is your professional opinion?
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TOO MANY.
I like that phrase,

I got out, but I was warned.

Men exhibiting aggressive behavior of all kinds is well-accepted and praised in these days, why can't that be stated?
Manners and courtesy are rare.
Woman-bashing is very common even among our dear friends, much as it aches to say that truth.
Many of my neighbors have husbands who are decent guys, but in a breakup situation, I could easily see broken windows or cars, a lot of threats and verbal abuse by these average, ordinary guys. It is accepted and in some cultures expected.
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TOO MANY.
I like that phrase,

I got out, but I was warned.

Men exhibiting aggressive behavior of all kinds is well-accepted and praised in these days, why can't that be stated?
Manners and courtesy are rare.
Woman-bashing is very common even among our dear friends, much as it aches to say that truth.
Many of my neighbors have husbands who are decent guys, but in a breakup situation, I could easily see broken windows or cars, a lot of threats and verbal abuse by these average, ordinary guys. It is accepted and in some cultures expected.
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Guys think they are decent and ordinary, if they are kind to their wives. But, 'out with the boys,' or on a forum like this one, they will let loose and give vent to their misogyny.

Wolves in sheep's clothing.

Laughing Hyena
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TOO MANY.
I like that phrase,

I got out, but I was warned.

Men exhibiting aggressive behavior of all kinds is well-accepted and praised in these days, why can't that be stated?
Manners and courtesy are rare.
Woman-bashing is very common even among our dear friends, much as it aches to say that truth.
Many of my neighbors have husbands who are decent guys, but in a breakup situation, I could easily see broken windows or cars, a lot of threats and verbal abuse by these average, ordinary guys. It is accepted and in some cultures expected.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33283057


Guys think they are decent and ordinary, if they are kind to their wives. But, 'out with the boys,' or on a forum like this one, they will let loose and give vent to their misogyny.

Wolves in sheep's clothing.

:Laughing Hyena:
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Some of them certainly are, I wish it was not so,but wishes are not horses, so...
Thank heavens I have a spouse who talks with me, we discuss misogeny among his friends, co-workers, and acquaintances. He tells it like he sees it.
Many of his friends are older now and have mellowed, they say how good it is he found a wife who is kind, intelligent, and so on.
But when they are together partying, as you said, the attitude leaks out and I cringe.
These are good men, hard workers, smart, talented, but were mind conditioned to treat women as objects and bragging points, not people.
Same with the stupor-bowl, and so on, give guys an underwear chick and everything else is OK.
hahaha.
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Interesting sideline:

The first thing Christians always did in Third World countries was to attempt to change the local mindset so that women and the lives of children would be respected.

Only one example: In China, the missionaries stopped the practice of binding women's feet.
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This is bullshit
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


Thank you for your comment, Herr Doktor. I take it that is your professional opinion?
 Quoting: 13th-Century


poop



yep looks like one sided bias bull shit to me

Females are just as violent and bad as males...

if you dont believe that check these out

[link to jezebel.com]

[link to www.salon.com]

...and if you need more proof I have provided this link that will assist in finding all kinds of info on the subject.

[link to www.google.com (secure)]


Don't get me wrong... sure its bad when males mistreat females... it actually pisses me the fuck off when i learn about it... anyone who hits a women is a degenerate piece of shit.

I am married and my wife is my equal... any female is equal to a male. I can dig that. I respect women...

but get your facts strait... its not just males that are being douches...

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Herr Doktor, the facts speak for themselves. The statistics I quoted from on page 5 of this Thread are quite clear in stating that women commit crimes also.

The sticking point here, for you, seems to be that you want to deny the fact that men are more violent and commit more murders of their domestic partners.

By a huge margin!
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Herr Doktor, the facts speak for themselves. The statistics I quoted from on page 5 of this Thread are quite clear in stating that women commit crimes also.

The sticking point here, for you, seems to be that you want to deny the fact that men are more violent and commit more murders of their domestic partners.

By a huge margin!
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cruise <---- im laughing at your statistics




clappa <----- but im applauding you sticking to your point/beliefs etc...
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But the thing is it's funny you see cause tptb are pushing all sorts of agendas making the world believe that we're evolving toward a progressive utopia and yet there is more division and more violence. The truth is, there ain't gonna be no progression or evolution it's the truth finally being exposed. All the alternatives being pushed down society are just indications of this fallen house of cards.

I think the origine of the problem is the harmony that's supposed to unite men and women is not that solid or special which is why so many relationships are fake or toxic.

Maybe God's idea of the sacred masculine and feminine marriage is not that special after all.
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Also when it comes to males, it's easy to foresee an even deeper polarization in the male populace because of the so-pervasive homosexual agenda nowdays. It will be harder for hetero males to prove themselves as heteros and non-stereotypical, descent males. It will make them either explode or implode(i'm betting on more explosion). We can see this already.
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Interesting sideline:

The first thing Christians always did in Third World countries was to attempt to change the local mindset so that women and the lives of children would be respected.

Only one example: In China, the missionaries stopped the practice of binding women's feet.
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I appreciate your response, and your defense of facts and of women.
I try to share similar views.
After much contemplation, research, too much painful experience, and changing life situations, hard work, travel;I truly believe the basic heart of those who try to follow the Christian religion is to love one another. IMO it worked for a long time, very well. I have studied with many different groups, but all focused on the basics as found in the words and deeds of Christ, love, heal, forgive, etc..
They are destroying a great force for good by ridiculing and eroding Christianity, IMO.
Much good will not happen if the teachings are abandoned.
I weep inside, often, for the grace we are losing.
Peace and thanks for this thread.
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I absolutely 100% believe that porn corrupts the soul.
I happen to know someone who was in a loving and committed relationship but he could not help his addiction to porn. His wife didn't like porn and while she says she did everything he asked of her in bed, she refused a threesome. So instead he started meeting random people and even couples for casual sex. She had suspicions but trusted him blindly, but her instinct prevailed and she looked at his phone, emails, and a craigslist account he had and found he'd been fucking around on her for months and months, all while lying to her face and telling her how beautiful she was to him and how he loved her so much and she was his whole world. As you can imagine she is pretty fucked up after this, because she centered her life around him and now has nothing. Her future, her plans, everything changed in an instant and her world is upside down. She is my best friend and my heart breaks for her, I can only imagine the kind of shock, grief, denial and ultimately, emotional pain she is going through. I heard the douchebag denied it even though she has text messages, emails and posts written by him about meeting people for sex. That idiot threw it all away for casual sex. A beautiful family and the guy seemed like the sweetest, nicest, most committed husband ever, I guess it was all an act, because he turned out to be a sexual deviant.

I fully believe that all the porn he is addicted to desensitized him to the beauty of natural sex, so he kept wanting more and more perverse acts. Where does it stop?
How many men out there are leading secret lives??
Occam's Razor, morans!
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In long term relationships, the man's main function has always been as provider, ever since cave-man days. That role has now, in many instances, been usurped by women's lib jobs and Governmental Welfare. The male now serves primarily as a sperm donor, and as a mercenary soldier for TPTB. The destruction of family life is a large part of the agenda of TPTB. The Schools, MSM, and Government will be the family.

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