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I would like to have the conversation during this time as I have time during work, and little time at home.

Ah yes, the Ark...Is the video claiming something specific is the ark?

....If so, how is it being used - if it has been used?

Also, did they show a picture of it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1266452


Jesus's blood dripped on the ark, and His blood shows only one human parent.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


really? NO. The ark was nowhere where Jesus ever was. For his blood to be on it, it had to be at his feet on the cross, and open. It was not. as above the ark is a container holding what is left of the tablets of the commandments given to moses. Jesus had two parents. Gabriel was his Father. No human can exist with the dna of just one parent. that is a law of nature. And if you do not wish to learn from nature Lisa, you will remain a fool.
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Duh
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Sigh... Those of you actually interested in the pursuit of 'truth' should spend the time to do a little research into Ron Wyatt's background before you accept his claims at face value:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

While Wyatt won a devoted following from some fundamentalist Christians, he was not considered credible by professional archaeologists and biblical scholars. The Garden Tomb Association of Jerusalem state in a letter they issue to visitors on request:

The Council of the Garden Tomb Association (London) totally refute the claim of Mr Wyatt to have discovered the original Ark of the Covenant or any other biblical artifacts within the boundaries of the area known as the Garden Tomb Jerusalem. Though Mr Wyatt was allowed to dig within this privately owned garden on a number of occasions (the last occasion being the summer of 1991) staff members of the Association observed his progress and entered his excavated shaft. As far as we are aware nothing was ever discovered to support his claims nor have we seen any evidence of biblical artifacts or temple treasures.

Archaeologist Joe Zias of Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) has stated that "Ron Wyatt is neither an archaeologist nor has he ever carried out a legally licensed excavation in Israel or Jerusalem. In order to excavate one must have at least a BA in archaeology which he does not possess despite his claims to the contrary. ... [His claims] fall into the category of trash which one finds in tabloids such as the National Enquirer, Sun etc."[13]


This armchair archeologist with no formal degree or training claims to have found:

-Ark of the Covenant
-Noah's grave
-Noah's ark
-Tower of Babel site
-site of the Red Sea crossing
-location of Mt. Sinai
-site of Jesus alleged crucifixion
-Jesus's blood

There's a good reason why no respected members of the Archeological community nor acredited biblical scholars have been able to support or verify his claims... He's a charlatan. There are even some christian-based sites refuting his claims. When it sounds too good to be true, it usually is. Do your own research and form your own conclusions.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Unless of course he was a prophet of God. Watch the vids and decide for yourselves. Professional archeologists only trumpet the party line. Anybody with alternate theories are busted out of the profession.
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Wise little Woot Woot
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
I Corinthians 2:14

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DNA proves evolution?

Just because DNA is shared by species does not prove evolution.

Why can I not say the same DNA sequence was altered in order to make all the animals?

Neither is true - and they're both true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1266452


the point is that when DNA is used as evidence (not absolute proof) for evolution it is often times shot down immeadiately.

from my perspective i dont see why god and evolution couldnt exist together....but that's a whole different thread i guess.
 Quoting: Oyster


clappaclappa

Christians with the perspective that God and evolution can't exist piss me off more than atheists do.

Who are you (Not you, Oyster) to say what God can and cannot do?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7260841


God cannot SIN, God Cannot cease to exist, etc. The God of the bible would not use suffering and death to create.

The bible says Death came after man but Evolution says Death came BEFORE man.

Someone is wrong
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But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
I Corinthians 2:14

God doesn't choose favorites.. They choose HIM

It is not the greatness of my faith that moves mountains but my faith in the greatness of God
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BLA BLA BLA
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-Spouting a fountain of nonsense since 1972-

Never met anyone important enough to lie to.....
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DNA proves evolution?

Just because DNA is shared by species does not prove evolution.

Why can I not say the same DNA sequence was altered in order to make all the animals?

Neither is true - and they're both true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1266452


the point is that when DNA is used as evidence (not absolute proof) for evolution it is often times shot down immeadiately.

from my perspective i dont see why god and evolution couldnt exist together....but that's a whole different thread i guess.
 Quoting: Oyster


Christians with the perspective that God and evolution can't exist piss me off more than atheists do.

Who are you (Not you, Oyster) to say what God can and cannot do?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7260841


God cannot SIN, God Cannot cease to exist, etc. The God of the bible would not use suffering and death to create.

The bible says Death came after man but Evolution says Death came BEFORE man.

Someone is wrong
 Quoting: Veresanctus


I almost couldn't take you seriously.

There are two types of death. There is "death" where we all think of it as our bodies dying, i.e. natural death, and there is Spiritual Death.

Are you saying the Bible can NOT be talking about Spiritual Death coming after Man? If you aren't, and you refer to Evolution as stating Spiritual Death comes before Man, than there's no point in arguing with you, because Evolution is a theory to understand how God created, with no religious doctrine of its own.
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Watch when you get home then......it's about the ark of the covenant.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I would like to have the conversation during this time as I have time during work, and little time at home.

Ah yes, the Ark...Is the video claiming something specific is the ark?

....If so, how is it being used - if it has been used?

Also, did they show a picture of it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1266452


Jesus's blood dripped on the ark, and His blood shows only one human parent.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


:bigcruise:
 Quoting: Oyster


I'll see your giant Cruise, and raise you ten regular-sized Dr. Evils!

drevildrevildrevildrevildrevil
drevildrevildrevildrevildrevil
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More from Ron:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Not only is there evidence that Sodom and Gommorah was destroyed, but there's evidence of the supernatural. The millions of large hail size brimstone / sulphur, embedded vertically downwards, cover this area.

The brimstones, were taken to be examined an analyzed at a lab. It was discovered, it's made of a content, that doesn't occur anywhere naturally in the world, or even volcanoes. Nor does it contain, elements, that are found in meteors.

In Exodus 15:27 and Numbers 33:9, during the travel to Mount Sinai, Moses noted, “there were twelve wells of water."

The video shows not only these 12 wells, but also Mt. Sinai, and much much more.

Exodus 19:18 Now the Bible stated, Mount Sinai was covered with smoke, because the LORD descended on it in fire. The smoke billowed up from it like smoke from a furnace, the whole mountain trembled violently

Now at this same location with 12 wells, and Mt. Sinai, there's a massive black scorch (appears to have been left by fire), at the top of the mountain.

At this location, the Bible stated, that Moses split a massive rock, where water came forth. In the vid, at this same location, there's a massive boulder, that's been split, and you see sediments, that shows water came from the boulder. And there's much more, showing evidence of not only the Bible, but also God's supernatural works.

Moses and the Israelites, had just escaped Egypt. Now in the same location as Mt. Sinai, the Bible stated, they made an alter, to worship a calf.

Now at this same location, the alter is also seen, and we see Egyptian hieroglyphics. Which shows, Hathor, a cow / calf god of the Egyptians.

What makes this even more unique, is that there's no, Egyptian hieroglyphics, in the entire country (Iran), but this location.

During the exodus, they also crossed the red sea, where God split the water. In the water, they found, chariot wheels, and horses' hooves.

At the crossing, there's also a pillar, with ancient Hebrew writings, which gave honor to God.

I also like watching non-verbal cues, that helps us know whether the person is lying or not. As Ron, speaks, about encountering the angels at the ark, you see him, get emotional, and show raw and genuine emotion, giving evidence that he's not lying.
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Dear christians, animal sacrifice was edited into the Hebrew Bible by the priest cult.

This is not some big secret.

And Ron Wyatt has been discredited if you do your homework!
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Sigh... Those of you actually interested in the pursuit of 'truth' should spend the time to do a little research into Ron Wyatt's background before you accept his claims at face value:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

While Wyatt won a devoted following from some fundamentalist Christians, he was not considered credible by professional archaeologists and biblical scholars. The Garden Tomb Association of Jerusalem state in a letter they issue to visitors on request:

The Council of the Garden Tomb Association (London) totally refute the claim of Mr Wyatt to have discovered the original Ark of the Covenant or any other biblical artifacts within the boundaries of the area known as the Garden Tomb Jerusalem. Though Mr Wyatt was allowed to dig within this privately owned garden on a number of occasions (the last occasion being the summer of 1991) staff members of the Association observed his progress and entered his excavated shaft. As far as we are aware nothing was ever discovered to support his claims nor have we seen any evidence of biblical artifacts or temple treasures.

Archaeologist Joe Zias of Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) has stated that "Ron Wyatt is neither an archaeologist nor has he ever carried out a legally licensed excavation in Israel or Jerusalem. In order to excavate one must have at least a BA in archaeology which he does not possess despite his claims to the contrary. ... [His claims] fall into the category of trash which one finds in tabloids such as the National Enquirer, Sun etc."[13]


This armchair archeologist with no formal degree or training claims to have found:

-Ark of the Covenant
-Noah's grave
-Noah's ark
-Tower of Babel site
-site of the Red Sea crossing
-location of Mt. Sinai
-site of Jesus alleged crucifixion
-Jesus's blood

There's a good reason why no respected members of the Archeological community nor acredited biblical scholars have been able to support or verify his claims... He's a charlatan. There are even some christian-based sites refuting his claims. When it sounds too good to be true, it usually is. Do your own research and form your own conclusions.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Do you also believe, college professors, and the mainstream media, that Islam is a 'religion of peace'?

Also Ron addresses, your points here:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Dear christians, animal sacrifice was edited into the Hebrew Bible by the priest cult.

This is not some big secret.

And Ron Wyatt has been discredited if you do your homework!
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He's been discredited by armchair skeptics, that's never even been to the middle-east.
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So, this guy knew where the ark was and tested blood on the top of it? But, where is the ark? Last I checked we have no idea where it is. But, this guy had access to it but doesn't tell anyone where it is?
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He turned it over to the the Israeli authorities and they have taken it and hidden it. Israel has it in their possession.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


The ark is NOT in that location and never was and for Christ's blood to have dripped on it, it would have to have been under the cross. Or in the grave under him, take your pick. If folks would be consider and think, they would not accept this trashy film.
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If you would have actually watched the videos you would know that by divine providence the Ark was placed under the location where the crosses were later placed in a cave buried by Jeremiah before the Babylonian captivity to keep it safe.

PLEASE try and pay attention to the details.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Divine providence doesn't work by magic. This is a FAKE FILM by thugs meant to draw Christians to it.
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really? NO. The ark was nowhere where Jesus ever was. For his blood to be on it, it had to be at his feet on the cross, and open. It was not. as above the ark is a container holding what is left of the tablets of the commandments given to moses. Jesus had two parents. Gabriel was his Father. No human can exist with the dna of just one parent. that is a law of nature. And if you do not wish to learn from nature Lisa, you will remain a fool.

1) The ark, was 20 ft below ground. After the crucifixion, the earth split (see Bible, and picture / video evidence), and the blood went down the crack, and fell on top of the ark.

2) Regarding the DNA of one parent, the lab results showed he had 23 pairs from his mother, but also a single y from God / Holy Spirit. Since it was only a single Y, and didn't contain any other pairs from the Father, this shows, the father, was non-human.
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you know what the secret is? that they have been fucking with us for thousands of years!

Fuck jesus and the apocalyps! They never did anything for humanity but cause derision and let this drama go on for thousands of years!

If there is anyone who should be indicted, it's 'christ'? And if he exists he knows damn well why I am saying this(and no, Lisa, it is not because I am from the 'devil'aka God in disguise)
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More from Ron:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Not only is there evidence that Sodom and Gommorah was destroyed, but there's evidence of the supernatural. The millions of large hail size brimstone / sulphur, embedded vertically downwards, cover this area.

The brimstones, were taken to be examined an analyzed at a lab. It was discovered, it's made of a content, that doesn't occur anywhere naturally in the world, or even volcanoes. Nor does it contain, elements, that are found in meteors.

In Exodus 15:27 and Numbers 33:9, during the travel to Mount Sinai, Moses noted, “there were twelve wells of water."

The video shows not only these 12 wells, but also Mt. Sinai, and much much more.

Exodus 19:18 Now the Bible stated, Mount Sinai was covered with smoke, because the LORD descended on it in fire. The smoke billowed up from it like smoke from a furnace, the whole mountain trembled violently

Now at this same location with 12 wells, and Mt. Sinai, there's a massive black scorch (appears to have been left by fire), at the top of the mountain.

At this location, the Bible stated, that Moses split a massive rock, where water came forth. In the vid, at this same location, there's a massive boulder, that's been split, and you see sediments, that shows water came from the boulder. And there's much more, showing evidence of not only the Bible, but also God's supernatural works.

Moses and the Israelites, had just escaped Egypt. Now in the same location as Mt. Sinai, the Bible stated, they made an alter, to worship a calf.

Now at this same location, the alter is also seen, and we see Egyptian hieroglyphics. Which shows, Hathor, a cow / calf god of the Egyptians.

What makes this even more unique, is that there's no, Egyptian hieroglyphics, in the entire country (Iran), but this location.

During the exodus, they also crossed the red sea, where God split the water. In the water, they found, chariot wheels, and horses' hooves.

At the crossing, there's also a pillar, with ancient Hebrew writings, which gave honor to God.

I also like watching non-verbal cues, that helps us know whether the person is lying or not. As Ron, speaks, about encountering the angels at the ark, you see him, get emotional, and show raw and genuine emotion, giving evidence that he's not lying.
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Notice all these specific points I bring up.

And notice the 'skeptics' will not address all these specific points, but they'll rather make generalizations.

This is the equivalence, of a judge being presented with 50 specific and separate pieces of evidences, but the judge then deciding to dismiss them all, without addressing each and every piece of evidence. And this is what 'skeptics' are doing with Ron.
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More from Ron:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Not only is there evidence that Sodom and Gommorah was destroyed, but there's evidence of the supernatural. The millions of large hail size brimstone / sulphur, embedded vertically downwards, cover this area.

The brimstones, were taken to be examined an analyzed at a lab. It was discovered, it's made of a content, that doesn't occur anywhere naturally in the world, or even volcanoes. Nor does it contain, elements, that are found in meteors.

In Exodus 15:27 and Numbers 33:9, during the travel to Mount Sinai, Moses noted, “there were twelve wells of water."

The video shows not only these 12 wells, but also Mt. Sinai, and much much more.

Exodus 19:18 Now the Bible stated, Mount Sinai was covered with smoke, because the LORD descended on it in fire. The smoke billowed up from it like smoke from a furnace, the whole mountain trembled violently

Now at this same location with 12 wells, and Mt. Sinai, there's a massive black scorch (appears to have been left by fire), at the top of the mountain.

At this location, the Bible stated, that Moses split a massive rock, where water came forth. In the vid, at this same location, there's a massive boulder, that's been split, and you see sediments, that shows water came from the boulder. And there's much more, showing evidence of not only the Bible, but also God's supernatural works.

Moses and the Israelites, had just escaped Egypt. Now in the same location as Mt. Sinai, the Bible stated, they made an alter, to worship a calf.

Now at this same location, the alter is also seen, and we see Egyptian hieroglyphics. Which shows, Hathor, a cow / calf god of the Egyptians.

What makes this even more unique, is that there's no, Egyptian hieroglyphics, in the entire country (Iran), but this location.

During the exodus, they also crossed the red sea, where God split the water. In the water, they found, chariot wheels, and horses' hooves.

At the crossing, there's also a pillar, with ancient Hebrew writings, which gave honor to God.

I also like watching non-verbal cues, that helps us know whether the person is lying or not. As Ron, speaks, about encountering the angels at the ark, you see him, get emotional, and show raw and genuine emotion, giving evidence that he's not lying.
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The LORD did not descend on MT Sinai with FIRE. PEOPLE FROM THE SAME PLANET JEVOVAH descended there and gave Moses the commandments using lazers to burn the tablets.

The stuff at sodom and Gomorrah is the result of plasma beams used to destroy it from craft, which can and does make changes in matter.
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you know what the secret is? that they have been fucking with us for thousands of years!

Fuck jesus and the apocalyps! They never did anything for humanity but cause derision and let this drama go on for thousands of years!

If there is anyone who should be indicted, it's 'christ'? And if he exists he knows damn well why I am saying this(and no, Lisa, it is not because I am from the 'devil'aka God in disguise)
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No the dark thugs imprisoned on this world did that, and man loves it, otherwise he would change. Man has nearly destroyed his planet and that certainly will provide armeggedon. Apocalypse means the changing over the new and that is going to happen. And rather soon.


An apocalypse (Ancient Greek: ἀποκάλυψις​ apocálypsis, from ἀπό and καλύπτω meaning 'un-covering'), translated literally from Greek, is a disclosure of knowledge, hidden from humanity in an era dominated by falsehood and misconception, i.e., a lifting of the veil or revelation, although this sense did not enter English until the 14th century.[1] In religious contexts it is usually a disclosure of something hidden
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you know what the secret is? that they have been fucking with us for thousands of years!

Fuck jesus and the apocalyps! They never did anything for humanity but cause derision and let this drama go on for thousands of years!

If there is anyone who should be indicted, it's 'christ'? And if he exists he knows damn well why I am saying this(and no, Lisa, it is not because I am from the 'devil'aka God in disguise)
 Quoting: Fun-Da-Mental


No the dark thugs imprisoned on this world did that, and man loves it, otherwise he would change. Man has nearly destroyed his planet and that certainly will provide armeggedon. Apocalypse means the changing over the new and that is going to happen. And rather soon.


An apocalypse (Ancient Greek: ἀποκάλυψις​ apocálypsis, from ἀπό and καλύπτω meaning 'un-covering'), translated literally from Greek, is a disclosure of knowledge, hidden from humanity in an era dominated by falsehood and misconception, i.e., a lifting of the veil or revelation, although this sense did not enter English until the 14th century.[1] In religious contexts it is usually a disclosure of something hidden
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I know what it means, my friend, sorry to burst out like that:)
But you gotta know the burden is too heavy and has been for many centuries.
Nothing will change and no redeemer will come, I am a gnostic at heart:) Archons have us by the balls, even the metaphysical ones hehe
No christ will come as it is metphysical, we are our own saviours.
And as long as people are expecting to be 'saved' nothing will change.
I'll say it again, the last thing remaining in Pandora's box was hope, and boy does Lisa, and lots of people, hope much
If judgement day comes I will laugh like a mad child.
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The Ark of the Covenant is thousands of years older the Jesus...

It was carried by the Israelite's during their Exodus from Egypt, as they built it during the Exodus. The Bible tells us that any Army that carried the Ark before it into battle, was undefeated. It was eventually kept within Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem after the Israelite's settled their Promised Land.

However the Ark itself was lost after 586 AD when the Babylonian's invaded and conquered Israel and destroyed Solomon's Temple.

No one knows what happened to the Ark after that, it has never been found.

If it were to have been found, it would be the subject of international news headlines and churches around the world would be going absolutely nuts.

The Ark contained the original stone tablets upon which the original Ten Commandments were printed, by the Hand of God Himself, as well as all the other stone tablets upon which his "Covenant" or "law" was recorded.

This Covenant is the same which Jesus Christ replaced with Himself during The Last Supper.

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Psalm 90:4 .. 2 Peter 3:8
1 Day to God, is 1000 years on Earth.

Do the Math, Genesis was the Neolithic Revolution!

The 7 "Days" of Creation (including His 1 Day of Rest) were actually 7000 years, add that to the current 6000 Years of the Hebrew Calender dating Genesis to the Present, and you have 12,000 - 14,000 years! Right smack in the middle of the Neolithic Revolution, when the "Homo Sapien" species learned how to... "grow a brain"!
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If George W. Bush was supposed to be Cthulhu...
Then Barack Hussein Obama is the spittin image of Nyarlathotep!
Behold! The Crawling Chaos! Nephren Ka! The Black Pharaoh!

Cthulhu is the High Priest of Azathoth. The high Priest spreads "the word" and prepares "the way", and introduces the religion...
Nyarlathotep is the Harbinger of Azathoth... the Harbinger heralds the imminent arrival of Azathoth!
Azathoth is the insane blind god in the Center of Chaos!

So guess whats coming next...

Behold America running blindly into Chaos! Azathoth comes!
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The Ark of the Covenant is thousands of years older the Jesus...

It was carried by the Israelite's during their Exodus from Egypt, as they built it during the Exodus. The bible tells us that any Army that carried the Ark before it, into battle, was undefeated. It was eventually kept within Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem after the Israelite's settled their Promised Land.

However the Ark itself was lost after 586 AD when the Babylonian's invaded and conquered Israel and destroyed Solomon's Temple.

No one knows what happened to the Ark after that, it has never been found.

If it were to have been found, it would be the subject of international news headlines and churches around the world would be going absolutely nuts.

The Ark contained the original stone tablets upon which the original Ten Commandments were printed, by the Hand of God Himself, as well as all the other stone tablets upon which his "Covenant" or "law" was recorded.

This Covenant is the same which Jesus Christ replaced with Himself during The Last Supper.
 Quoting: Nyarlathotep75

WE DO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BUT THE BOOKS WERE PULLED AND CALLED FROBIDDEN

BARUCH WAS IN THE TIME OF JEREMAIH AND EZRA AND HE GAVE AN ACCOUNT
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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The Ark of the Covenant is thousands of years older the Jesus...

It was carried by the Israelite's during their Exodus from Egypt, as they built it during the Exodus. The bible tells us that any Army that carried the Ark before it, into battle, was undefeated. It was eventually kept within Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem after the Israelite's settled their Promised Land.

However the Ark itself was lost after 586 AD when the Babylonian's invaded and conquered Israel and destroyed Solomon's Temple.

No one knows what happened to the Ark after that, it has never been found.

If it were to have been found, it would be the subject of international news headlines and churches around the world would be going absolutely nuts.

The Ark contained the original stone tablets upon which the original Ten Commandments were printed, by the Hand of God Himself, as well as all the other stone tablets upon which his "Covenant" or "law" was recorded.

This Covenant is the same which Jesus Christ replaced with Himself during The Last Supper.
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WE DO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BUT THE BOOKS WERE PULLED AND CALLED FROBIDDEN

BARUCH WAS IN THE TIME OF JEREMAIH AND EZRA AND HE GAVE AN ACCOUNT

Chapter 6

1 And it came to pass on the morrow that, lo! the army of the Chaldees surrounded the city, and at the time of the evening, I, Baruch, left the people, and I went forth and stood by the oak.

2 And I was grieving over Zion, and lamenting over the captivity which had come upon the people.

3 And lo! suddenly a strong spirit raised me, and bore me aloft over the wall of Jerusalem.

4 And I beheld, and lo! four angels standing at the four corners of the city, each of them holding a torch of fire in his hands.

5 And another angel began to descend from heaven. and said unto them: 'Hold your lamps, and do not light them till I tell you.

6 For I am first sent to speak a word to the earth, and to place in it what the Lord the Most High has commanded me.'

7 And I saw him descend into the Holy of Holies, and take from there the veil, and holy ark, and the mercy-seat, and the two tables, and the holy raiment of the priests, and the altar of incense, and the forty-eight precious stones, wherewith the priest was adorned and all the holy vessels of the tabernacle.

8 And he spoke to the earth with a loud voice: 'Earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the mighty God, And receive what I commit to you, And guard them until the last times, So that, when you are ordered, you may restore them, So that strangers [GENTILE] may not get possession of them.


9 For the time comes when Jerusalem also will be delivered for a time, Until it is said, that it is again restored for ever.'

10 And the earth opened its mouth and swallowed them up.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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you know what the secret is? that they have been fucking with us for thousands of years!

Fuck jesus and the apocalyps! They never did anything for humanity but cause derision and let this drama go on for thousands of years!

If there is anyone who should be indicted, it's 'christ'? And if he exists he knows damn well why I am saying this(and no, Lisa, it is not because I am from the 'devil'aka God in disguise)
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The Devil in disguise is not God or Jesus...

It is Allah, and his false prophet was Mohamed, and Islam is the false "word" that Allah (Lucifer) brought.
Psalm 90:4 .. 2 Peter 3:8
1 Day to God, is 1000 years on Earth.

Do the Math, Genesis was the Neolithic Revolution!

The 7 "Days" of Creation (including His 1 Day of Rest) were actually 7000 years, add that to the current 6000 Years of the Hebrew Calender dating Genesis to the Present, and you have 12,000 - 14,000 years! Right smack in the middle of the Neolithic Revolution, when the "Homo Sapien" species learned how to... "grow a brain"!
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If George W. Bush was supposed to be Cthulhu...
Then Barack Hussein Obama is the spittin image of Nyarlathotep!
Behold! The Crawling Chaos! Nephren Ka! The Black Pharaoh!

Cthulhu is the High Priest of Azathoth. The high Priest spreads "the word" and prepares "the way", and introduces the religion...
Nyarlathotep is the Harbinger of Azathoth... the Harbinger heralds the imminent arrival of Azathoth!
Azathoth is the insane blind god in the Center of Chaos!

So guess whats coming next...

Behold America running blindly into Chaos! Azathoth comes!
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What a load of bullshit.

Only one Y chromosome? That's pure BS. Woman is XX, Man is XY it would be impossible to even live and be Y only.

Jesus was a man, not a freak.


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Your naiveté is sadly limited only by your stupidity.. Are you suggesting that God is subjected by the laws He controls and created? psh...
1 John 1–3._ 1Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God.

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More from Ron:

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Not only is there evidence that Sodom and Gommorah was destroyed, but there's evidence of the supernatural. The millions of large hail size brimstone / sulphur, embedded vertically downwards, cover this area.

The brimstones, were taken to be examined an analyzed at a lab. It was discovered, it's made of a content, that doesn't occur anywhere naturally in the world, or even volcanoes. Nor does it contain, elements, that are found in meteors.

In Exodus 15:27 and Numbers 33:9, during the travel to Mount Sinai, Moses noted, “there were twelve wells of water."

The video shows not only these 12 wells, but also Mt. Sinai, and much much more.

Exodus 19:18 Now the Bible stated, Mount Sinai was covered with smoke, because the LORD descended on it in fire. The smoke billowed up from it like smoke from a furnace, the whole mountain trembled violently

Now at this same location with 12 wells, and Mt. Sinai, there's a massive black scorch (appears to have been left by fire), at the top of the mountain.

At this location, the Bible stated, that Moses split a massive rock, where water came forth. In the vid, at this same location, there's a massive boulder, that's been split, and you see sediments, that shows water came from the boulder. And there's much more, showing evidence of not only the Bible, but also God's supernatural works.

Moses and the Israelites, had just escaped Egypt. Now in the same location as Mt. Sinai, the Bible stated, they made an alter, to worship a calf.

Now at this same location, the alter is also seen, and we see Egyptian hieroglyphics. Which shows, Hathor, a cow / calf god of the Egyptians.

What makes this even more unique, is that there's no, Egyptian hieroglyphics, in the entire country (Iran), but this location.

During the exodus, they also crossed the red sea, where God split the water. In the water, they found, chariot wheels, and horses' hooves.

At the crossing, there's also a pillar, with ancient Hebrew writings, which gave honor to God.

I also like watching non-verbal cues, that helps us know whether the person is lying or not. As Ron, speaks, about encountering the angels at the ark, you see him, get emotional, and show raw and genuine emotion, giving evidence that he's not lying.
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The LORD did not descend on MT Sinai with FIRE. PEOPLE FROM THE SAME PLANET JEVOVAH descended there and gave Moses the commandments using lazers to burn the tablets.

The stuff at sodom and Gomorrah is the result of plasma beams used to destroy it from craft, which can and does make changes in matter.
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Exodus 19:18 Mount Sinai was covered with smoke, because the LORD descended on it in fire. The smoke billowed up from it like smoke from a furnace, the whole mountain trembled violently

A plasma / laser, gun produces millions brimstones / sulphur, the size of hail? Nope sorry, the only religious book, that described this event, is no other book, but the Bible.

And in this one and only book that describes the event, there's not mention of laser / plasma ray or beam, in the book.

If you decide to use Sumerian texts, you will not see this either.
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What a load of bullshit.

Only one Y chromosome? That's pure BS. Woman is XX, Man is XY it would be impossible to even live and be Y only.

Jesus was a man, not a freak.


:bigcruise:
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Your naiveté is sadly limited only by your stupidity.. Are you suggesting that God is subjected by the laws He controls and created? psh...
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Yes exactly. Man has 46 pairs of chromosomes, the blood was found to have 23 pairs, and a single Y.

Jesus was not man, he was not a freak, but he was divine.
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What a load of bullshit.

Only one Y chromosome? That's pure BS. Woman is XX, Man is XY it would be impossible to even live and be Y only.

Jesus was a man, not a freak.


:bigcruise:
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Your naiveté is sadly limited only by your stupidity.. Are you suggesting that God is subjected by the laws He controls and created? psh...
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Yes exactly. Man has 46 pairs of chromosomes, the blood was found to have 23 pairs, and a single Y.

Jesus was not man, he was not a freak, but he was divine.
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just plain crap...pure and simple. Its a desperate attempt to try to get people to believe there is actual evidence to support Christian claims that Jesus is God.
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What a load of bullshit.

Only one Y chromosome? That's pure BS. Woman is XX, Man is XY it would be impossible to even live and be Y only.

Jesus was a man, not a freak.


:bigcruise:
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Your naiveté is sadly limited only by your stupidity.. Are you suggesting that God is subjected by the laws He controls and created? psh...
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Yes exactly. Man has 46 pairs of chromosomes, the blood was found to have 23 pairs, and a single Y.

Jesus was not man, he was not a freak, but he was divine.
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just plain crap...pure and simple. Its a desperate attempt to try to get people to believe there is actual evidence to support Christian claims that Jesus is God.
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I guess, you and other skeptics, will conveniently ignore and not even address, the multiple other evidences that Ron presented:
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Do you also believe, college professors, and the mainstream media, that Islam is a 'religion of peace'?

Also Ron addresses, your points here:

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Do you enjoy Snake Oil Salesmen? If so, I've got some great David Wilcock videos I can refer you to.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof as well as strict peer review & verification. Why is the only alleged 'proof' of Ron Wyatt's claims found in 'Ron Wyatt's own videos'?

If you could refer me to acredited members of the Archeological community as well as respected Biblical Scholars who can corroborate and verify his claims, I would be happy to change my mind on this subject matter. As far as my inquiry has turned up, they don't exist.

A man with no formal education or training in archeology claims to have made what would amount to the greatest archeological discoveries of the 20th century (not just one discovery but several) and qualified authorities in field of archeology or biblical study will not support/confirm/corroborate his work. If you don't view that as a major RED FLAG I don't know what else to say.

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Do you also believe, college professors, and the mainstream media, that Islam is a 'religion of peace'?

Also Ron addresses, your points here:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Do you enjoy Snake Oil Salesmen? If so, I've got some great David Wilcock videos I can refer you to.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof as well as strict peer review & verification. Why is the only 'proof' of Ron Wyatt's claims found in 'Ron Wyatt's own videos'?

If you could refer me to acredited members of the Archeological community as well as respected Biblical Scholars who can corroborate and verify his claims, I would be happy to change my mind on this subject matter. As far as my inquiry has turned up, they don't exist.

A man with no formal education or training in archeology claims to have made what would amount to the greatest archeological discoveries of the 20th century (not just one discovery but several) and no qualified authorities in field of archeology or biblical study will support/confirm/corroborate his work. If you don't view that as a major RED FLAG I don't know what else to say.
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Show me an accredited member of the archeological community, that specifically address all the evidences he presented, and debunks them.
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I would like to have the conversation during this time as I have time during work, and little time at home.

Ah yes, the Ark...Is the video claiming something specific is the ark?

....If so, how is it being used - if it has been used?

Also, did they show a picture of it?
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Jesus's blood dripped on the ark, and His blood shows only one human parent.

hf
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bigcruise
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I'll see your giant Cruise, and raise you ten regular-sized Dr. Evils!

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LMAO^^^^^^^..not agreeing or disagreeing with what anyone has said here...but that is some funny shit right there...!!!
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Show me an accredited member of the archeological community, that specifically address all the evidences he presented, and debunks them.
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If your burden of proof lies with a YouTube video, there's no point in having this discussion. You saw a one-sided presentation in a video, you decide it must be true, so you believe it to be true without any independent confirmation/verification from any respected members in the field of archeology nor biblical studies?

Do you see the value in peer review? Do you know why in the field of science they must present findings that can be verified/corroborated/replicated by other members of the scientific commuity before it is published and accepted as being factual? The fact that you don't see any major players in the field of archeology/biblical studies supporting nor devoting time to addressing & debunking Ron's extraordinary claims is another red flag that he is not taken seriously by any professionals in the fields of which he claims to operate. Again, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof & verification from qualifed experts/professionals and must be subjected to stringent peer review before they can be accepted as factual.

These videos have been posted before on GLP and this discussion has been had and the only offered 'evidence' I've seen of Ron Wyatt's claims originate from Ron Wyatt himself. Why will no trusted/respected/acredited professionals in these fields support/verify this work and stake their reputation on his claims???

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