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Imminent threat to the 2nd amendment right now! NOT assault weapon ban or mag cap, its much worse !

 
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Jan 30, 2013

WASHINGTON — The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee says closing loopholes in the background check system for gun purchasers won't threaten firearms owners' Second Amendment rights to own a gun and is a matter of common sense.
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These liars know exactly what theyre doing, and theyre decieving the public!

It has nothing to do with Newtown or 'for the children' and everything to do with an attack on the second amendment.

It has nothing to do with background checks in reality, but everything to do with REGISTRATION!

THIS is the real conspiracy.

THIS is where the true effort is by those undermining the 2nd amendment in a coordinated, determined conspiracy to undermine the 2nd amendment. All the rest of it is just red herring. The AWB and mag cap is just red herring.

They are trying to make this look like COMPROMISE, when it is in fact the most dangerous thing of all by far!




What theyre GOING for is UNIVERSAL FEDERAL FIREARM REGISTRATION under the guise of going after 'universal background checks.'

A 'universal background check' system can only be enforced through a universal federal firearm registration and they damn well know it! The vast majority of foolish, dumbed-down, naive Americans who say they support universal background checks havent thought about it and dont realize it requires registration in order to enforce.


'universal background checks' = requires universal federal firearm registration!
.... and .... registration is the necessary stepping stone to eventual confiscation.


This is exactly what was done in England and Australia. Registration, then confiscation followed.

Please join this fight to stop this.
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Thats weird, the same person who was put in charge of gun control is the same person who is "The Father of the Patriot Act".

Look it up
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and if they succeed, in ten years time this is where we will be:


Samurai sword, crossbow and a gold-plated axe: Chilling array of weapons seized by police force in anti-violence crackdown
West Midlands Police launch campaign aiming to end knife crime

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

... absolutely chilling array of evil weapons there ...


If you pay attention closely, you will start to see the conspiracy in exactly the direction I describe in my OP.
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Would that mean you couldn't buy from private sellers like flea markets?
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Hey OP,hold your horses. This article and video on MSNBC says all you gun folks are right wing conspiracy extremist. It says you are paranoid fearing a NWO. Which is says is a term used in "extremist circles". It even says you may be "Neo confederates" or at the very least tea party members. [link to tv.msnbc.com]
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Hey OP,hold your horses. This article and video on MSNBC says all you gun folks are right wing conspiracy extremist. It says you are paranoid fearing a NWO. Which is says is a term used in "extremist circles". It even says you may be "Neo confederates" or at the very least tea party members. [link to tv.msnbc.com]
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LOL, although its hard to even think about laffing, knowing what I know.

This is the realest and most dangerous conspiracy facing Americans since GLP has been in existence.
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Would that mean you couldn't buy from private sellers like flea markets?
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Its means that all guns would have to be registered through the federal government, and that firearms could only be bought by going through the federal system.

The bigger pisture is that this is just a required step before confiscation.
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A federal registry is my go sign. If something along those lines gets passed, I am going to act patriotic on the patriot act and everything else these dick licking DC bureaucrats pass.
The constitutions of most of our States and the United States assert, that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves, in all cases to which they think themselves competent, or they may act by representatives, freely and equally chosen; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of the press. -Thomas Jefferson in a letter to John Cartwright, June 5, 1824
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A federal registry is my go sign. If something along those lines gets passed, I am going to act patriotic on the patriot act and everything else these dick licking DC bureaucrats pass.
 Quoting: Dominus


A federal registry will be required to implement universal background checks.

Do you see how something that sounds 'not so bad' and like a 'compromise' or even a 'good thing' to so many Americans is actually a wolf in sheep's clothing?

I'm hearing so many people say theyre ok with universal background checks, and almost none of them realize it means federal registration!
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Please help keep this thread alive so that more people realize what universal background checks really means.

This is a clear and present damger to the future of this country and I cannot emphasize that enough.

Far too few people realize what is really going on with this.
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A federal registry is my go sign. If something along those lines gets passed, I am going to act patriotic on the patriot act and everything else these dick licking DC bureaucrats pass.
 Quoting: Dominus


A federal registry will be required to implement universal background checks.

Do you see how something that sounds 'not so bad' and like a 'compromise' or even a 'good thing' to so many Americans is actually a wolf in sheep's clothing?

I'm hearing so many people say theyre ok with universal background checks, and almost none of them realize it means federal registration!
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I know, and it's got me pissed. I was just telling my bride last night that the fact that I may die on my own property defending my God-given rights and our family seems imminent.

My property. My rights.
The constitutions of most of our States and the United States assert, that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves, in all cases to which they think themselves competent, or they may act by representatives, freely and equally chosen; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of the press. -Thomas Jefferson in a letter to John Cartwright, June 5, 1824
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I will not be registering anything and I will not be telling the federal governmnet if my dad gives me something or if I give my son something. The federal goverment can piss off.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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OP,

where does it say that the universal background check has ANYTHING to do with gun registration?

please provide source.

the link you gave provides nothing but the statement about background checks.

i do understand that there is a proposal to register assault weapons ?
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OP,

where does it say that the universal background check has ANYTHING to do with gun registration?

please provide source.

the link you gave provides nothing but the statement about background checks.

i do understand that there is a proposal to register assault weapons ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33330777


Feinstein's Bill says you can keep what you have, but just have to register it.

Go to her .gov site and look it up.
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OP,

where does it say that the universal background check has ANYTHING to do with gun registration?

please provide source.

the link you gave provides nothing but the statement about background checks.

i do understand that there is a proposal to register assault weapons ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33330777


A universal background check can be modified to include the type of weapon being purchased. Once all of that is submitted for the background check they have everything they need for a registry sans confirmation that your credit card didn't fail or something like that. A new regulation could also include a submission by the FFL or seller of what guns were sold to be matched with the background check submitted.
The constitutions of most of our States and the United States assert, that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves, in all cases to which they think themselves competent, or they may act by representatives, freely and equally chosen; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of the press. -Thomas Jefferson in a letter to John Cartwright, June 5, 1824
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OP,

where does it say that the universal background check has ANYTHING to do with gun registration?


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33330777


It doesnt. An intelligent person realizes that one is required for the other.


Universal background checks cannot be enforced without a universal federal registration in addition to it, and the coordinated push for it quietly knows that.

Without universal federal registration, I can sell a firearm to anyone I want, and there is no way to prove when and where that transaction took place, who owned the firearm and when, so there is no way to enforce whether a background check took place or not.

Without universal federal registartion, I can buy any firearm from anyone I want, and there is no way to know when and where that transaction took place, who owned the firearm and when, so there is no way to enforce whether a background check took place.



The key conspirators pushing for this know these facts.

Please spread this as far and wide as you can. Copy and paste if you want.
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Watch the CBS Video about what they consider an "assault Weapon." shocking to say the least.


Thread: CBS Media Says your Glock is now an Assault Weapon
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you just figured this out genius
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If I tell them that a black man broke into my house and stole all my shit they will absolutely believe it and leave me alone!
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"Submit an Application for Registration."

Submit = Surrender

Apply = Beg

Registration = Surrender / Pledge (give away) your property
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you just figured this out genius
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Hey, dont be smart.

Ive talked to gun shop owners and gun rights supporters and NOT ON SINGLE PERSON I have talked to about this realizes it.

So, If you had already figured this out, consider yourself in the very small minority who see what's really going on.
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Some in congress are bringing up a ban on "armor piercing" ammo. That ban was instated 20 years ago. Armor piercing was means piercing armored vehicles. Now they want to include soft ballistic vests in the same category. Basically banning all rifle ammo since anything larger than a .22lr will pierce that...
Here is a list of 8 things to look for when trying to identify false flag psychological operations.
1. Staged events usually receive immediate national news coverage
2. There is a political agenda behind the coverage (gun control)
3. The incident inspires intense emotions (Dead kids)
4. Initial media reports conflict eyewitness accounts
5. No dead bodies are shown to the public
6. Celebrities are used to influence the public
7. Presence of mainstream media manipulation tactics
8. The Federal Government give attention to a local story

Question Everything.

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Calm down OP

Barry can't do shit...
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Here's a timeline I've been maintaining here since the morning after Sandy Hook to chronicle their efforts:

Thread: USA Gun Control Timeline, a social experiment...Post Sandy Hook to Present

If you connect the dots, it's ALL pretty well laid out...
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Calm down OP

Barry can't do shit...
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the UN will..... All STATE, FEDERAL, and International Laws must be ducks in a row in order for the Senate to RATIFY the UN GUN TREATY. It wont be Him that does it. Trust me on this. He will initiate it, the UN will enforce.
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Calm down OP

Barry can't do shit...
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By their own words, they feel very confident that they can do this.

And Barry doesnt make laws, Congress does.
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Thats weird, the same person who was put in charge of gun control is the same person who is "The Father of the Patriot Act".

Look it up
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And what's even weirder is that all the ones so upset by this supported the Patriot Act under bushco. because they thought it was going to be used against Muslims, liberals, communists, etc.

Talk about myopic.

When you plant a seed in your yard and it grows into a tree and that tree bears fruit, you have two options.

You either eat the fruit. Yum Yum Yummy.

Or you ignore the fruit and let it rot on the ground which tends to attract rats.
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Here is another article with the same crap in it

[link to www.wral.com]
"Earlier this month, President Barack Obama proposed a package that includes banning assault weapons, requiring background checks on all firearms purchases and limiting ammunition magazines to 10 rounds."

They could care less about the assault weapons and the mags, its the federal registration they want right now ASAP.

Notice how the background check system is being pushed as a harmless, beneficial thing.

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