Federal law enforcement practice helicopter maneuvers at PA Capitol

WTF! PA now too?!

Yea how many states we up to I lost track lol

Heck, these past few days was Florida, Texas and now Pennsylvania...and that's that I know about, I haven't looked further on GLP cause I've been busy this week WOW though!!

What's interesting is one of the local patriot groups out of York, PA had something posted recently that may tie in...



Via York912Patriots:

On whether York County Sheriff Keuerleber would carry out any order or enforce any laws which were in violation of the 2nd Amendment (or the Constitution of the Commonwealth of PA):

"We talked to Sheriff Keuerleber today and he is in full agreement with the statement (below) made by the Cumberland County's Sheriff Anderson. He said that the PA Sheriff's Association was supposed to issue a statement soon and that's why he hasn't commented. Unfortunately, he is having surgery this weekend and won't be able to make [the York 912] meeting on the 7th. We've asked him to send us a statement which can be read at our meeting.

Sheriff Ronny Anderson's statement:

"Due to recent events that have caused concerns regarding the issue of Gun Control, I have had numerous calls and emails from citizens regarding my stance on the U.S. Constitution specifically the Second Amendment as well as Gun Control.

As Sheriff of Cumberland County, I hold the Office of Sheriff as a Constitutional Officer elected by my peers and sworn to uphold the Constitutions of both the United States and the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Unlike some states, Pennsylvanians have even GREATER protection other than the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, a Pennsylvania Constitutional Right to bear arms found at Article 1, Section 21 of the Pennsylvania Constitution which provides: “ The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be QUESTIONED.” (emphases added).

As stated in the press release from the PA Sheriffs’ Association (see attachment), currently there is no existence of a directive nor is any directive expected to require the removal or surrender of any firearms in Pennsylvania. Myself as well as other Pennsylvania Sheriffs are prepared not to enforce any directives that are in violation of the U.S. And Pennsylvania Constitution."

He is in full agreement with the statement. He said that the PA Sheriff's association was supposed to issue a statement soon. That is why he hasn't commented."

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OP, are you in PA?

yes that's how I found out since I been trying to keep track of these drills my guess is they are just updating state Agency's with something new or there is a high level threat on something in the US that we do not now about it

Wow, where are you in PA? I'm south central...near Gettysburg.

Right outside Philly western suburbs

I'm looking but can't find any other articles about this...these news stations don't even feel like reporting news anymore I guess?

These drills are going to coincide with increased pressure on the family members of independent leaders involved in the fight for 2nd amendment rights, community food initiatives, raw foods/coops and those who resist the GMOs/corporate dominance. You need to keep an eye on vulnerable members of the community who are talking about organized stalking, who appear paranoid, resort to excessive drinking and/or seem to be losing control.

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There was something last year where one of the guard units (not sure what state) marched openly through a suburban housing complex...

Last Edited by Laura Bow on 01/30/2013 12:21 PM

Goes right along with this Thread: Government prepares for war with the people, and mass media approves

They are practicing and getting ready to come at 'WE THE PEOPLE'

I was wondering why I haven't heard anything coming from the York County Sheriff. Very happy to see him on board!!

That was a statement from Cumberland County's sheriff, it was posted by the York912Patriots Facebook group though. I thought it was interesting how he mentioned that PA has even more protection because of the constitution for this state. Our sheriff, James Muller for Adams County, is now standing with 228 others, including Sheriff Mack -

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I don't see York listed on there, but then again neither is Cumberland and it sounds like it may not be reported anywhere yet either.

I've exited helicopters via ropes (fast rope & rappelling) in many situations and environments under "training", but never in, on, or around a state capital.

Why should we not believe this is for acclimating the people to seeing/ experiencing these types of events on a more regular basis in a more urban environment?

I just can't see the red tape that has to be addressed - including the inconvenience/ annoyance of State officials and their duties - much less the inherent risks associated, in order to conduct such event(s) under the guise of "training".

It's either to acclimate people, to send a message to "undesirables", or attempt to stir people up and incite them.

Or: "I'll take 'All of the Above' for $1,000, Alex"

Heh. You know, you made a good point about state officials perhaps being inconvenienced. Surely they knew something about this practice drill beforehand, though they could claim that it was at night after they had gone home.

That was a federal agency practicing tactical maneuvers at the capitol tonight! They had helicopters doing "touch and go" (hovering close to the ground, then taking off) and rappelling off ropes. They're gone now.


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Can see the comments on the Facebook page of that news station...

If you've ever been on/ under/ around an operating helicopter - especially in a hover - it's not a passive event as portrayed on TV/ movies. There is A LOT of noise, and tremendous winds from the rotor wash with strong propensity of creating damage in such setting.

I am sure there are some rotary wing pilots lurking around this forum. They will surely be able to add in the dangers associated with hovering in a helicopter better than I. I just think this is a lot of liability to take on in such a highly populated area of importance (state capital) under the guise of "training".

I was a firefighter with a small volunteer fire department for almost 10 years. The saying was "practice how you play". We had weekly training sessions. Some classroom and some drills. The thing about training is you don't train for things you don't need to. We didn't train to deal with refinery fires, we didn't have any. My point is that all these recent urban warfare drills are not done for the hell of it, they're practicing for how they expect to play. I also believe it's to acclimate ppl to a "military" style presence on the streets. From what I've read these are pretty much not announced, so it gives them a chance to see how the local population reacts during and after. Anyway that's just my 2 cents worth.

That's another good point. I've never been around a helicopter, close-up. You would have to wonder what would entice them to take the risk in that area?

If this is the case, they're expecting something to happen at some point involving the Capitol, which is why they'd be practicing there.

Possibly, any public building could be the center for a civil disturbance if that's what they were training for. It could also be because they own the building if it's the state that is doing the training. Less liability, don't have to get the owners permission, etc. Or could be both, capitol would be an obvious target of insurrection and the training of say clearing it or retaking it would apply to any large building, at least the tactics would be similar. HOpe that makes sense.

The State, as well as most any sizable municipality will also own many acres of property, as well as numerous applicable training sites. They can likely also use those earmarked for/ by the National Guard.

To use an actual State Capital Building for this type of overt "training" is unprecedented, but when you add in the logistics and safety issues that surround introducing helicopters in this particular environment - it makes absolutely no sense.