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Actual letter from Mom to teacher Re: Son Enthusiasum w/hunting and Guns

 
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Actual letter from Mom to teacher Re: Son Enthusiasum w/hunting and Guns
This has to be the coolest Mom ever, and she tells it to the teacher. The family is active in outdoors activities, including shooting. Her son at six was well into hunting with his Dad.
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Dear Mrs. XXXX:

Generally I simply sign Wyatt’s reflection forms, but this one has struck a cord with me and I feel the need to comment. As mentioned in the reflection report, Wyatt has once again made shooting gestures, which is a violation of school safety and respect guidelines. As I mentioned in our parent/teacher conference, Wyatt is an avid hunter. At the age of six, Wyatt began hunting with his Dad. For two years, Wyatt was John’s walking partner, accompanying him in big game and waterfowl hunts. At the age of eight, John enrolled Wyatt in a 16-hour hunter safety course. For Wyatt’s ninth birthday, we purchased him a lifetime hunting license. Wyatt has been raised in the country and plays army, rather than sitting in front of a television. Rather than exposing our child to social media, video games, and reality TV, we expose him to fresh air, dirt, and imagination.

As a result of Wyatt’s need to hydrate himself, he has lost several recesses because he has needed to use the restroom more than once per day. As we both know, Wyatt’s penmanship needs improvement so I recently suggested to Wyatt that he writes when he looses his recess. Yesterday, January 28th, Wyatt wrote an essay on guns, which I have included for your review. The essay begins with “Guns as used for protection and hunting, not for killing.” His essay goes on to say that “It is illegal to poach animals” and “Guns are a privilege to have.” I see Wyatt’s essay as knowledge of safe gun ownership and this results in promoting safety, not violating safety guidelines.

I guess I am writing this letter for two reasons. The first reason is to say that I completely understand why guns are a frowned upon topic in schools. It is very sad that so many school shootings have occurred. I am sure I don’t need to point out that guns do not kill people, people kill people. Violence is everywhere and the tragic events that happen everyday are horrible. Wyatt fully understands that guns should not be used to harm humans and therefore means no ill will when making shooting gestures in the air. My understanding from Wyatt was that a classmate asked him if he had guns to which is responded “I have lots of guns” and made a shooting gesture.

My second reason for writing is to say how very proud I am of my son. Wyatt is an all American country boy. He is dirty, he pushes the boundaries, he doesn’t always listen to directions, and he is hardheaded. Wyatt is also fun loving, cares for everyone; try’s his hardest with academics, and LOVES THE OUTDOORS. Last night, when Wyatt brought home his gun essay, I couldn’t have been prouder. At the ripe old age of nine, Wyatt knows right from wrong when is comes to fires arms.

I should probably state the obvious that I will tell Wyatt not to talk about guns at school or make shooting gestures due to the environment. It saddens me that I have to explain to Wyatt that he has to basically hide his true passion so that he doesn’t get him in trouble. I would just like to ask that you recognize that Wyatt does not mean to violate safety and respect guidelines; he is simply trying to fit in. Believe it or not, XXXX Elementary has been a hard school for Wyatt to adapt to….after attending a one room house for three years. Due to Wyatt’s ethnicity, he is often excluded from games. Many times he has come home asking what certain Spanish words mean, only for me to have to try to hide the fact that kids are calling him bad names….and he just doesn’t understand. After a year and a half, Wyatt has finally found a group of boys that share the same interests and who he feel he relates to. Unfortunately, some of the same-shared interests revolve around hunting and the outdoors. I will make sure that Wyatt does not express his liking for guns at school in the future.

Thank you for taking the time to read my comments.

Best regards,
"The Mom"
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Or you could home school.
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I am just gobsmacked reading that a parent can purchase a lifetime gun license for a nine year old! Is that really true? Surely you have to be of a certain age to own a gun?

I mean great little kids go through really rough/crazy times as teenagers.

That part just seems outrageous to me? Doesn't it to you OP?
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I am just gobsmacked reading that a parent can purchase a lifetime gun license for a nine year old! Is that really true? Surely you have to be of a certain age to own a gun?

I mean great little kids go through really rough/crazy times as teenagers.

That part just seems outrageous to me? Doesn't it to you OP?
 Quoting: Sloane


Edit: *hunting* license. But that would amount to the same thing wouldn't it?

Just trying to understand . . . .
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I am just gobsmacked reading that a parent can purchase a lifetime gun license for a nine year old! Is that really true? Surely you have to be of a certain age to own a gun?

I mean great little kids go through really rough/crazy times as teenagers.

That part just seems outrageous to me? Doesn't it to you OP?
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hunting license you idiot, not gun license
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I am just gobsmacked reading that a parent can purchase a lifetime gun license for a nine year old! Is that really true? Surely you have to be of a certain age to own a gun?

I mean great little kids go through really rough/crazy times as teenagers.

That part just seems outrageous to me? Doesn't it to you OP?
 Quoting: Sloane


Edit: *hunting* license. But that would amount to the same thing wouldn't it?

Just trying to understand . . . .
 Quoting: Sloane


Here in Tn. it's much cheaper to buy the lifetime license
before the child is 3. 200 bucks.
I'm 56... would cost over 900..
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I am just gobsmacked reading that a parent can purchase a lifetime gun license for a nine year old! Is that really true? Surely you have to be of a certain age to own a gun?

I mean great little kids go through really rough/crazy times as teenagers.

That part just seems outrageous to me? Doesn't it to you OP?
 Quoting: Sloane


hunting license you idiot, not gun license
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I corrected that above, still the question remains . . . .

And no need to stoop to namecalling. :/
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I wish this letter was a little less conciliatory and a little more scathing, but I respect the mom for standing up to the liberal culture.

And why would you NOT want to get a lifetime hunting license at age 9?
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yes, you can purchase(in cali) a lifetime hunting license. This child does not actually purchase the gun, you are correct in that you need to be , I think 18 in Cali. to purchase a gun. ...and I know this Mom, I'd bet there are no guns just kicking around their home. All locked tightly away.



I am just gobsmacked reading that a parent can purchase a lifetime gun license for a nine year old! Is that really true? Surely you have to be of a certain age to own a gun?

I mean great little kids go through really rough/crazy times as teenagers.

That part just seems outrageous to me? Doesn't it to you OP?
 Quoting: Sloane
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I am just gobsmacked reading that a parent can purchase a lifetime gun license for a nine year old! Is that really true? Surely you have to be of a certain age to own a gun?

I mean great little kids go through really rough/crazy times as teenagers.

That part just seems outrageous to me? Doesn't it to you OP?
 Quoting: Sloane


hunting license you idiot, not gun license
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I corrected that above, still the question remains . . . .

And no need to stoop to namecalling. :/
 Quoting: Sloane


Just curious Sloane....where are you from?
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I am just gobsmacked reading that a parent can purchase a lifetime gun license for a nine year old! Is that really true? Surely you have to be of a certain age to own a gun?

I mean great little kids go through really rough/crazy times as teenagers.

That part just seems outrageous to me? Doesn't it to you OP?
 Quoting: Sloane


Edit: *hunting* license. But that would amount to the same thing wouldn't it?

Just trying to understand . . . .
 Quoting: Sloane


Obviously your not just stupid, you are a dick.
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A child in Tn. can legally hunt with an adult at the age of 5.
All of my children have learned gun safety and responsibility
from me. They all went on hunts with me from a young age.
They learned what a gun does.
They do not abuse guns or people.

This is the responsibility of a parent.. not the state.
The kids that I know of around here who are violence-prone and
gun-crazy.... were not raised with hunting and gun traditions.
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I am just gobsmacked reading that a parent can purchase a lifetime gun license for a nine year old! Is that really true? Surely you have to be of a certain age to own a gun?

I mean great little kids go through really rough/crazy times as teenagers.

That part just seems outrageous to me? Doesn't it to you OP?
 Quoting: Sloane


hunting license you idiot, not gun license
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33341341


I corrected that above, still the question remains . . . .

And no need to stoop to namecalling. :/
 Quoting: Sloane


Just curious Sloane....where are you from?
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I can't imagine why you ask that but I've lived in many places, but now in the Southwest.

I just read the letter and it hit close to home. I've got best friends who who have a son in prison and grew up the same way in a responsible family that loves to hunt. But he got involved in a drug deal that went bad, had a family gun with him, and is in prison now.

I probably shouldn't have replied to the thread. Just kind of blurted out of me.
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I am just gobsmacked reading that a parent can purchase a lifetime gun license for a nine year old! Is that really true? Surely you have to be of a certain age to own a gun?

I mean great little kids go through really rough/crazy times as teenagers.

That part just seems outrageous to me? Doesn't it to you OP?
 Quoting: Sloane


Edit: *hunting* license. But that would amount to the same thing wouldn't it?

Just trying to understand . . . .
 Quoting: Sloane


Obviously your not just stupid, you are a dick.
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Really? Just because I'm asking questions and talking about it? And might feel differently than you?

That's part of the problem in this country - people can't talk to each other in a civilized manner to work things out.
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I would bet the family gun played little in the scenario, as someone hellbent on self destruction would find any means possible.
Just say'n. I hope the family is well.



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hunting license you idiot, not gun license
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I corrected that above, still the question remains . . . .

And no need to stoop to namecalling. :/
 Quoting: Sloane


Just curious Sloane....where are you from?
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I can't imagine why you ask that but I've lived in many places, but now in the Southwest.

I just read the letter and it hit close to home. I've got best friends who who have a son in prison and grew up the same way in a responsible family that loves to hunt. But he got involved in a drug deal that went bad, had a family gun with him, and is in prison now.

I probably shouldn't have replied to the thread. Just kind of blurted out of me.
 Quoting: Sloane
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I would bet the family gun played little in the scenario, as someone hellbent on self destruction would find any means possible.
Just say'n. I hope the family is well.



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I corrected that above, still the question remains . . . .

And no need to stoop to namecalling. :/
 Quoting: Sloane


Just curious Sloane....where are you from?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16951501


I can't imagine why you ask that but I've lived in many places, but now in the Southwest.

I just read the letter and it hit close to home. I've got best friends who who have a son in prison and grew up the same way in a responsible family that loves to hunt. But he got involved in a drug deal that went bad, had a family gun with him, and is in prison now.

I probably shouldn't have replied to the thread. Just kind of blurted out of me.
 Quoting: Sloane

 Quoting: Mkguyver


Well thanks for that OP. No the family is suffering in the worst way. Father stopped working because of depression.
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This has to be the coolest Mom ever, and she tells it to the teacher. The family is active in outdoors activities, including shooting. Her son at six was well into hunting with his Dad.
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Dear Mrs. XXXX:

Generally I simply sign Wyatt’s reflection forms, but this one has struck a cord with me and I feel the need to comment. As mentioned in the reflection report, Wyatt has once again made shooting gestures, which is a violation of school safety and respect guidelines. As I mentioned in our parent/teacher conference, Wyatt is an avid hunter. At the age of six, Wyatt began hunting with his Dad. For two years, Wyatt was John’s walking partner, accompanying him in big game and waterfowl hunts. At the age of eight, John enrolled Wyatt in a 16-hour hunter safety course. For Wyatt’s ninth birthday, we purchased him a lifetime hunting license. Wyatt has been raised in the country and plays army, rather than sitting in front of a television. Rather than exposing our child to social media, video games, and reality TV, we expose him to fresh air, dirt, and imagination.

As a result of Wyatt’s need to hydrate himself, he has lost several recesses because he has needed to use the restroom more than once per day. As we both know, Wyatt’s penmanship needs improvement so I recently suggested to Wyatt that he writes when he looses his recess. Yesterday, January 28th, Wyatt wrote an essay on guns, which I have included for your review. The essay begins with “Guns as used for protection and hunting, not for killing.” His essay goes on to say that “It is illegal to poach animals” and “Guns are a privilege to have.” I see Wyatt’s essay as knowledge of safe gun ownership and this results in promoting safety, not violating safety guidelines.

I guess I am writing this letter for two reasons. The first reason is to say that I completely understand why guns are a frowned upon topic in schools. It is very sad that so many school shootings have occurred. I am sure I don’t need to point out that guns do not kill people, people kill people. Violence is everywhere and the tragic events that happen everyday are horrible. Wyatt fully understands that guns should not be used to harm humans and therefore means no ill will when making shooting gestures in the air. My understanding from Wyatt was that a classmate asked him if he had guns to which is responded “I have lots of guns” and made a shooting gesture.

My second reason for writing is to say how very proud I am of my son. Wyatt is an all American country boy. He is dirty, he pushes the boundaries, he doesn’t always listen to directions, and he is hardheaded. Wyatt is also fun loving, cares for everyone; try’s his hardest with academics, and LOVES THE OUTDOORS. Last night, when Wyatt brought home his gun essay, I couldn’t have been prouder. At the ripe old age of nine, Wyatt knows right from wrong when is comes to fires arms.

I should probably state the obvious that I will tell Wyatt not to talk about guns at school or make shooting gestures due to the environment. It saddens me that I have to explain to Wyatt that he has to basically hide his true passion so that he doesn’t get him in trouble. I would just like to ask that you recognize that Wyatt does not mean to violate safety and respect guidelines; he is simply trying to fit in. Believe it or not, XXXX Elementary has been a hard school for Wyatt to adapt to….after attending a one room house for three years. Due to Wyatt’s ethnicity, he is often excluded from games. Many times he has come home asking what certain Spanish words mean, only for me to have to try to hide the fact that kids are calling him bad names….and he just doesn’t understand. After a year and a half, Wyatt has finally found a group of boys that share the same interests and who he feel he relates to. Unfortunately, some of the same-shared interests revolve around hunting and the outdoors. I will make sure that Wyatt does not express his liking for guns at school in the future.

Thank you for taking the time to read my comments.

Best regards,
"The Mom"
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Somebody named their son "Wyatt"?????
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I am just gobsmacked reading that a parent can purchase a lifetime gun license for a nine year old! Is that really true? Surely you have to be of a certain age to own a gun?

I mean great little kids go through really rough/crazy times as teenagers.

That part just seems outrageous to me? Doesn't it to you OP?
 Quoting: Sloane


Edit: *hunting* license. But that would amount to the same thing wouldn't it?

Just trying to understand . . . .
 Quoting: Sloane


Obviously your not just stupid, you are a dick.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4099771


Really? Just because I'm asking questions and talking about it? And might feel differently than you?

That's part of the problem in this country - people can't talk to each other in a civilized manner to work things out.
 Quoting: Sloane


No no, it's ok.

Our experience shape our view points. You're alright. hf
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docholiday It used to be that kids took a shotgun to school so that they could bring home something for the pot.
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Back in the 70's we had a shooting range in our high school, Tuesday nights we could shoot all night for 50 cent's a box for 22lr ammo. We just walked around campus with rifles slung over our shoulders too. No teacher for supervision, believe this: he actually pointed a responsible student to watch and assist us. Fuking bizarre!
Four years of shooting every available Tuesday night...and no one died ever died there.


Boy, those were the days my friend.
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I got my hunting license when I was 11. Dad always kept it as he did my rifles. They were not handed over to me until I was 16.

If well educated in firearms, a child see's the firearm much like non-gun owners would see a hammer, or a drill. It's a tool and is used to perform certain duties.

Perspective is everything. That is why Holder is committed to brainwashing the public into a panic reaction to firearms. The prespective they prefer is a snitch society with stockholm syndrome as opposed to free thinking society.

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I am just gobsmacked reading that a parent can purchase a lifetime gun license for a nine year old! Is that really true? Surely you have to be of a certain age to own a gun?

I mean great little kids go through really rough/crazy times as teenagers.

That part just seems outrageous to me? Doesn't it to you OP?
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That is a silly comment. My husband has had a lifetime hunting liscence since he was a little kid. We don't have them for our kids because we don't hunt now, but they "own" their own guns which my husband keeps locked up and uses to help them in hands-on supervised target shooting. Being military we have to have guns around and even though we take all precautions, having them know gun safety and understand what guns are all about is another safety measure we feel we should take. It's not a bad thing and it is also a useful skill to have.
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I think the real question is how does making a gun gesture violate safety guidelines? He's not going to magically fire bullets from his fingers, there is nothing whatsoever unsafe about making a gun gesture.

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