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War hero arrested in NY state and charged with 5 felonies for possesion of 30 round magazines

 
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"Magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds and manufactured before 1994, which are currently legal, would have to be turned over to authorities or sold out of state within one year. If a magazine has a capacity between eight and 10, it would have to be retrofitted to only hold seven rounds."

So how legit is this story? I checked and confirmed. Unless 30-round mags were already illegal in New York, he had every right to still have them until the year is up, right?
 Quoting: ifSHTF


Sounds as if they are only giving time to mags manufactured prior to 1994...when the Clintoon "Gun Ban" went into effect...

Really doesn't matter though...the "Law" that Governor Cornhole signed into law will more likely than not be challanged and found to be unconstitutional...possible that this mans case will become that challange case...hopefully after that happens he will sue the snot out of everything and everyone.
 Quoting: SHR


Best I can figure, the INTENT of this crazy NY law was to end up at SCOTUS. The libs are hooping for a broad opinion that will outline the limits of the 2nd Amendment.

Then they'll write a Federal law that goes up just to those limits, that's as restrictive as possible while having the explicit recent approval of SCOTUS.

I hope any court, including SCOTUS, will write a narrow opinion saying simply that these mags were grandfathered or reasonably believed to be grandfathered, end of story. Don't give the Feds an outline of how to write their law.
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I am leaving the usa after reading this.I am a vet and the cops have actually come after me.I am banned from stepping foot on my property.I had surgery and the local druggies new I had pain meds,came into my home stole them,my silver collection and trashed my house.I was charged.But I will beat the charge.The druggie got so high he got nailed with 5 charges and is now a fugitive.True story.After my trail I am out of the usa too beleize south america.Where its sunny warm and the cost of living is not bad.2000 dollars a month and you live like a king.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6484430


Have you actually seen the people of Belize?
The west coast of central america is run by drug gangs.
Violent drug gangs with no limits and no fears.
Why do you think a multimillionaire like MacCaffee was so gun and security crazy?
You may not be so happy to be there on your own, alone with no connections and no friends and 2000 american dollars just begging to be made into installment payments on ransom or protection from the local gangs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


I think you've gone overboard with that post.

I live on the west coast of Central America in a large city where the violent crime rate is very low. It's much safer to live here than in a city in the USA.

In fact, the poster would do well to consider Panama over Belize. The infrastructure here is much better.

We have a state of the art John Hopkins Hospital here, an international airport, large fancy malls, a multitude of nice restaurants, bars, and clubs, wine festivals, casinos, a major venue concert hall that attracts bands like Metallica, a large American expat community, a private banking sector that rivals Switzerland's (admittedly not as private as before, though if you have Panamanian residency, you're protected), and you could still live well on $2000 a month (probably not as well as in Belize, though it depends on your definition of living well).

To my understanding, it's just been made much easier and cheaper for Americans (and Europeans) to get residency here. I think if you're bringing in $2000 a month (and this is certainly true if it's a pension), you'd qualify. Check with an immigration attorney to be sure.

Also, to the poster who is considering moving to Central America, you must beat that drug charge, or you aren't going anywhere. You will be required to prove that you are not a felon before any country will allow you to immigrate there.
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A suggestion.

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January 31, 2013 9:27 AM EST

Find the name of the prosecutor who is pushing this and post it online for everyone to see. These people who go after vets like this and not the rich media liberals, for something as stupid as a magazine, need their names and addresses brought out into the light.


[link to gunssavelives.net]

If they can publicize the names of law abiding gun owners, we can publicize the names of the people who are trying to turn us all into criminals.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33332377


let's not elevate any such thing to near a level that could be viewed as stalking...
 Quoting: SHR


That's not stalking. That's good journalism!

NY paper publishes names of concealed gun permit holders
[link to www.kgw.com]

If he's not doing anything wrong, what does he have to hide?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33332377


What the paper did was wrong...if someone tried the same thing here on innocent law abiding people?....they'd be banned so deep someone would have to pump to air down to them...

If a similar thing happens to whatever journalists?...we can surely discuss that...but no one is going be searching any scumbag fake news assholes personal info down and using GLP as a vehicle to publish that sort of thing.

I understand that people are pissed off...I am too...but we aren't going to become part of the problem and we do not point to some other scumbags piss poor actions to justify more of the same.
 Quoting: SHR


No, it works, and it is fair. The names of the top people at the Journal-News were published.

And just like magic, the Journal-News took down the map of gun owners. Sure much damage had been done, but it made them back off. They made the excuse that the job was done with the passage of the NY gun law, but that doesn't really make sense.

Now both the addresses of the gun owners, and the addresses of the J-N people, are permanently available. That's somewhat fair.
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I am leaving the usa after reading this.I am a vet and the cops have actually come after me.I am banned from stepping foot on my property.I had surgery and the local druggies new I had pain meds,came into my home stole them,my silver collection and trashed my house.I was charged.But I will beat the charge.The druggie got so high he got nailed with 5 charges and is now a fugitive.True story.After my trail I am out of the usa too beleize south america.Where its sunny warm and the cost of living is not bad.2000 dollars a month and you live like a king.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6484430


Have you actually seen the people of Belize?
The west coast of central america is run by drug gangs.
Violent drug gangs with no limits and no fears.
Why do you think a multimillionaire like MacCaffee was so gun and security crazy?
You may not be so happy to be there on your own, alone with no connections and no friends and 2000 american dollars just begging to be made into installment payments on ransom or protection from the local gangs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


Do you mean the east coast of central america? Belize is on the eastern side.

It would be too bad if what you say is right because the east side is the Caribbean coast. It's where the warm calm water for swimming and boating and good scuba diving is.
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Re: War hero arrested in NY state and charged with 5 felonies for possesion of 30 round magazines
Let me get this straight.

The cops searched his car, probably on a fishing expedition.

They didn't find the gun.

They found the magazines.

So he was arrested for having ammunition in his car?

What kind of crap has been going on in NY anyways?

Watertown is a rural area.
 Quoting: 13th-Century





Can't find it at the moment but yesterday I read in another thread here that the magazines were EMPTY.
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


[link to legalinsurrection.com]

Someone states in the comments section that the magazines were empty. Also his brother has left some comments on this article regarding setting up defense fund etc.
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These guys want a war huh?
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Yup.... You better get your cherry ass down here....







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Sent to Drudge, hopefully he will break the story
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Didn't they just pass this law like 2 weeks ago?

What are people who had 30 round mags supposed to do with them?

This is ridiculous...
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Turn them into your local gestapo center.
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so do we even know why he was pulled over or why his car was searched? I know people are jumping all over this being a 2A issue, but lets get all the facts before we start pouring money behind some guy that might have gotten pulled over with a DUI or something.
 Quoting: ifSHTF


it said it was a "registration checkpoint"

checking vehicle registration?
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Translated for NY State...... (literally)

papers
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They are going after the VETS because they dont want any RESISTANCE when china and russias army invade america
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this statement makes more sense every day
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Sent to Drudge, hopefully he will break the story
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don't count on it.

Drudge is controlled opposition.
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Didn't they just pass this law like 2 weeks ago?

What are people who had 30 round mags supposed to do with them?

This is ridiculous...
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


According to a comment I heard in the Assembly debate, they can sell them out of state. Someone asked if this wasn't gunwalking, but I don't think there was any response to it.

The whole thing was jammed through without time for open discussion, even the normal 3 day comment period was waived at the instigation of the Governor and the approval of the legislature. The MSM press didn't even say much or anything that I recall about this being under discussion, though alternative media talked about it. Them bam! it was done.

It's Cuomo's typical style. He didn't tell anyone (except the gays) that he was working on gay marriage, until that was final, either.
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Didn't they just pass this law like 2 weeks ago?

What are people who had 30 round mags supposed to do with them?

This is ridiculous...
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Turn them into your local gestapo center.
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yeah turn them in for a new pair of shiny handcuffs
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Read this:

[link to www.drum.army.mil]

Take a close look at this pic:

[link to www.drum.army.mil]

Then read this:

[link to www.wwnytv.com]

This is being intentionally kept off the MSM.

They do NOT want this guy being the poster child for turning law abiding citizens into criminals.

Someone that's a member here needs to PIN this and unpin the other thread that does not even mention the fact that this guy is a war hero.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29992561


Deplorable, Unacceptable, demeaning and a SERIOUS CREATION of distrust, to say the very least.

As a New York State Resident, US Navy Veteran (RET),and Jesus loving and GOD FEARING citizen of these United States, I have seen, heard and been through enough of these bait type outcomes. There are MILLIONS of men and women throughout New York and the United States and its outlying territories that feel the same way as I do and will remain to the end (of the beginning) loyal to Her.

Taunting former US Military and DOD personnel is INTOLERABLE AND NO LONGER ALLOWED furthermore and henceforth. Interrogation of former US Military personnel, irregardless or their length of Service by any other than friendly personnel (VETS AS DEFINED UNDER DICK ACT 1902) means simply they are "PRISONERS OF WAR Under 1947 Geneva Convention exercised wrongfully by our own people veterans lived and died for. A Veteran MUST be present and stand accountable to higher Authority before we allow our own to be Snaked at Snake Hill. <ON US SOIL>

Forgive my grammar in this draft, respectfully

I have the honor to be, faithfully yours

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If it was a 30 round mag that was not pre-94 ("pre-ban"), I think it was not legal before the new NY law either. So there would be no grandfathering, no time to sell out of state.

I don't know what burden of proof there is about whether a mag is pre-94 or not.
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What exactly is a "vehicle check"?
 Quoting: IRQ_1


That's where they force themselves into your car and search it. They either search it, or you do not pass.
 Quoting: Booster Gold
One always has to say "I do not consent to searches." and keep one's mouth shut. If one does not say this courts have ruled you do not care if the police search your person and your car.
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What exactly is a "vehicle check"?
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That is what you get for asking a cop to check you oil level.
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Two points. 1St somebody needs to run against that sheriff. 2Nd. The arresting deputies names and addresses should be publicized.
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This arrest was nothing more than a back page dinky article in a home town paper.

Hopefully it will start to get noticed...


A former Fort Drum soldier who was injured in special forces training was arrested Sunday night when he was found with prohibited rounds of ammunition, the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Department said.

>>>>sp

Deputies made the arrest shortly before 7:30 p.m. Sunday on Steinhilber Road in the town of LeRay, where Mr. Haddad is accused of possessing five 30-round AR-15 magazines of ammunition. He is cited under a state penal law statute that prohibits possession of “a large capacity ammunition feeding device.” The ammunition was found in his vehicle during a traffic stop, according to the sheriff’s office.


[link to www.watertowndailytimes.com]
 Quoting: SHR


SHR they already have a site set up for legal fund donations in this case.
More info at link
[link to www.gofundme.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33359272


They need to set up MORE than just a 'legal fund'.
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[link to www.governor.ny.gov]


" Since the federal assault weapons ban in 1994, it has been illegal in New York State to buy, for any gun, a detachable magazine, manufactured after the law took effect, that can contain more than ten rounds. This law does not change that. Starting April 15, 2013, only magazines that contain 7 rounds or less will be sold in New York, including permanently modified magazines."


Q: What if I have a magazine that can contain more than ten rounds?

A: You can permanently modify the magazine so that it holds no more than ten rounds, responsibly discard it, or sell it to a dealer or an out of state purchaser by January 15, 2014.

This story is fake anyway
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This is sickening. I have shared. Thanks!
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so do we even know why he was pulled over or why his car was searched? I know people are jumping all over this being a 2A issue, but lets get all the facts before we start pouring money behind some guy that might have gotten pulled over with a DUI or something.
 Quoting: ifSHTF


it said it was a "registration checkpoint"

checking vehicle registration?
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Welcome to ny
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Hero?
More like Government Hired Murderer.
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Read this:

[link to www.drum.army.mil]

Take a close look at this pic:

[link to www.drum.army.mil]

Then read this:

[link to www.wwnytv.com]

This is being intentionally kept off the MSM.

They do NOT want this guy being the poster child for turning law abiding citizens into criminals.

Someone that's a member here needs to PIN this and unpin the other thread that does not even mention the fact that this guy is a war hero.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29992561


Its time that decent, productive, law-abiding citizens flee these libtard states like NY and leave them to the parasite class and socialist vermin.
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This arrest was nothing more than a back page dinky article in a home town paper.

Hopefully it will start to get noticed...


A former Fort Drum soldier who was injured in special forces training was arrested Sunday night when he was found with prohibited rounds of ammunition, the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Department said.

>>>>sp

Deputies made the arrest shortly before 7:30 p.m. Sunday on Steinhilber Road in the town of LeRay, where Mr. Haddad is accused of possessing five 30-round AR-15 magazines of ammunition. He is cited under a state penal law statute that prohibits possession of “a large capacity ammunition feeding device.” The ammunition was found in his vehicle during a traffic stop, according to the sheriff’s office.


[link to www.watertowndailytimes.com]
 Quoting: SHR


SHR they already have a site set up for legal fund donations in this case.
More info at link
[link to www.gofundme.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33359272


They need to set up MORE than just a 'legal fund'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306067


The NRA has a legal defense fund. I wonder if they would help this guy out. [link to www.nradefensefund.org]
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Didn't they just pass this law like 2 weeks ago?

What are people who had 30 round mags supposed to do with them?

This is ridiculous...
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


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