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War hero arrested in NY state and charged with 5 felonies for possesion of 30 round magazines

 
chaakin

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Dated before executive orders?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9042924


Watch your semantics man, there was no EO's passed.

The 23 things were "Executive Actions"

They are speaking from both sides of their mouth to gage reactions...
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Re: War hero arrested in NY state and charged with 5 felonies for possesion of 30 round magazines
If it was a 30 round mag that was not pre-94 ("pre-ban"), I think it was not legal before the new NY law either. So there would be no grandfathering, no time to sell out of state.

I don't know what burden of proof there is about whether a mag is pre-94 or not.
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New mags have dates, old ones do not
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so do we even know why he was pulled over or why his car was searched? I know people are jumping all over this being a 2A issue, but lets get all the facts before we start pouring money behind some guy that might have gotten pulled over with a DUI or something.
 Quoting: ifSHTF

Unconstitutional checkpoint.
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I also can't believe there are 0 comments on this story on WNYF's page. I think they are blocking comments.
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01/31/2013 03:14 PM
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If it was a 30 round mag that was not pre-94 ("pre-ban"), I think it was not legal before the new NY law either. So there would be no grandfathering, no time to sell out of state.

I don't know what burden of proof there is about whether a mag is pre-94 or not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33389306


New mags have dates, old ones do not
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Old mags have dates. How you tell if they are pre ban
Anonymous Coward
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01/31/2013 03:44 PM
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You can't report on new gun violence if you want people to believe the new gun laws are working.
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01/31/2013 03:56 PM

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Didn't they just pass this law like 2 weeks ago?

What are people who had 30 round mags supposed to do with them?

This is ridiculous...
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Yea very recently, there are many people who still don't even know the law passed that are too busy working or raising families to even know they are now criminals.

I'm in ny and believe me we are outraged
everything in its right place
Philligan
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Everyone send this to drudge, he does check his news tips.
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Re: War hero arrested in NY state and charged with 5 felonies for possesion of 30 round magazines
Last spring they were throwing a banquet in this guys honor attended by 400 people including a 2 star general.

9 months later he's facing 5 felony charges for being caught in possesion of 5 30 round magazines at a "registration check" road block.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29992561


Lieutenant General is 3 stars. Major General is two stars. Brigadier General is 1 star and General is 4 stars. Just for clarity.
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What exactly is a "vehicle check"?
 Quoting: IRQ_1


An illegal search and seizure.

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


Officer, I do not consent to a search.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33332377


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01/31/2013 04:23 PM
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A suggestion.

Choppedlow permalink
January 31, 2013 9:27 AM EST

Find the name of the prosecutor who is pushing this and post it online for everyone to see. These people who go after vets like this and not the rich media liberals, for something as stupid as a magazine, need their names and addresses brought out into the light.


[link to gunssavelives.net]

If they can publicize the names of law abiding gun owners, we can publicize the names of the people who are trying to turn us all into criminals.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33332377


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Never met anyone important enough to lie to.....
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I just sent these articles to DRUDGE along with this GLP post. Lets see if he puts it up
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Re: War hero arrested in NY state and charged with 5 felonies for possesion of 30 round magazines
What a travesty, this news is.

This would be a case to take to the Supreme Court. Even though it's a state law it goes against the US Constitution.

And possibly the state constitution.

From the NY State Constitution:

[link to www.dos.ny.gov]

ARTICLE XII (9)

Defense

[Defense; militia]

Section 1. The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

It looks like every citizen of NY State is a Militia unless they want to be discharged of this service individually.

Did I read it wrong?
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send some money

[link to www.gofundme.com]
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01/31/2013 05:04 PM

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What exactly is a "vehicle check"?
 Quoting: IRQ_1


That's where they force themselves into your car and search it. They either search it, or you do not pass.
 Quoting: Booster Gold


I do not consent to searches.
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A suggestion.

Choppedlow permalink
January 31, 2013 9:27 AM EST

Find the name of the prosecutor who is pushing this and post it online for everyone to see. These people who go after vets like this and not the rich media liberals, for something as stupid as a magazine, need their names and addresses brought out into the light.


[link to gunssavelives.net]

If they can publicize the names of law abiding gun owners, we can publicize the names of the people who are trying to turn us all into criminals.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33332377


Absolutely. No reason not to publish where their kids go to school, or the fancy salon their wife likes to frequent, or where they golf.

What do these benevolent rulers have to fear?
Anonymous Coward
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something is not right here - I just checked and people have a year to comply- something else is involved
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What exactly is a "vehicle check"?
 Quoting: IRQ_1


An illegal search and seizure.

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


Officer, I do not consent to a search.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33332377


The ONLY reason they get away with this crap is because the people they are puling over cant afford for the cops to impound their vehicle and so they consent.

I would gladly spew all that "I DO NOT consent" crap if I knew they wouldn't then impound my car for a search, charge me an arm and leg for the tow and cut me loose in 2-3 hours for the pleasure of standing up for myself.
Instead we just fume inside and take it ..like everything else.
It's no wonder people are snapping left, right, and chelsea.
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01/31/2013 05:21 PM
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so do we even know why he was pulled over or why his car was searched? I know people are jumping all over this being a 2A issue, but lets get all the facts before we start pouring money behind some guy that might have gotten pulled over with a DUI or something.
 Quoting: ifSHTF

Unconstitutional checkpoint.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Unless he gave the police permission to search his vehicle, it was an unlawful search as well.
Anonymous Coward
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01/31/2013 05:42 PM
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This is a communist country now. You all need to accept this, and support any discipline this criminal is sentenced with.

Your words will have zero impact of the transformation of this republic. You enslavement is no longer inevitable, but a fact of life now.

Just go along to get along, submit yourself fully to those in power, and your life will be simpler.
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01/31/2013 05:49 PM
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This needs to go viral, people! Pass this story around far and wide!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1038231


Yes, so we can talk about it some more. Then promptly DO NOTHING!!
Anonymous Coward
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01/31/2013 05:52 PM
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This is a communist country now. You all need to accept this, and support any discipline this criminal is sentenced with.

Your words will have zero impact of the transformation of this republic. You enslavement is no longer inevitable, but a fact of life now.

Just go along to get along, submit yourself fully to those in power, and your life will be simpler.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33416113


This.

You little white boys lost your capitalist democracy and we president now.

Now, give up your guns or be killed. The guns have no place in a communist world now run by my fellow comrades.
Anonymous Coward
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Re: War hero arrested in NY state and charged with 5 felonies for possesion of 30 round magazines
Didn't they just pass this law like 2 weeks ago?

What are people who had 30 round mags supposed to do with them?

This is ridiculous...
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


So this new infringement on the 2nd amendment is acceptable, according to you, if they would give a reasonable period for getting rid of these mags?

Hmmm... hmm
DT2

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01/31/2013 05:55 PM
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War heroes and gun owners are now considered to be terrorists.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28870983


Not "now," since at least 2009. Probably earlier. Read the MIAC report, it's pretty crazy.
“A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” --President George Washington
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Re: War hero arrested in NY state and charged with 5 felonies for possesion of 30 round magazines
Let me get this straight.

The cops searched his car, probably on a fishing expedition.

They didn't find the gun.

They found the magazines.

So he was arrested for having ammunition in his car?

What kind of crap has been going on in NY anyways?

Watertown is a rural area.
 Quoting: 13th-Century


This sounds like a perfect test case...

If the gun rights orgs will get behind this guy they will be able to quickly get a test of the Constitutionality of the new laws in NY...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


That is exactly what needs to happen.:

"Police say the magazines were found during a vehicle check on Steinhilber Road in the town of LeRay".

During a vehicle check? Really? They need probable cause to stop a vehicle If I'm not mistaken? Sounds like Israel and the Middle East to me, not the Good ole USA.
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Didn't they just pass this law like 2 weeks ago?

What are people who had 30 round mags supposed to do with them?

This is ridiculous...
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


I guess the evil N.Y. politicians figured that if you had magazines you were a felon 5 seconds after they passed their illeagle law
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Oh well. Thread unpinned. We can forget about him now. NOT!

THIS THREAD SHOULD STAY PINNED UNTIL THE CHARGES ARE DROPPED OR THE COUNTRY ERUPTS IN CIVIL WAR!
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i really hate that americans cant see what is going on around them. i wish they would sit down with someone who was in germany, when the exact same thing was taking place.

but, americans are going to loose their stockholm syndrome the hard way. pitty there wont be hardly any left to learn the lesson.
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01/31/2013 06:39 PM
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Being a "Hero" vet, he probably didn't think the law would apply to him...
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01/31/2013 06:41 PM
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They are going after the VETS because they dont want any RESISTANCE when china and russias army invade america
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3085194


It wont be China or Russia. It will be DHS. The military said they would not follow an unconstitutional order to disarm law abiding citizens, so Barry will use DHS for that purpose.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


You think Russia and China will just sit there and see america falling apart without taking advantage of the situation?

You should check this thread, the only prediction that is 100% Accurate

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