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War hero arrested in NY state and charged with 5 felonies for possesion of 30 round magazines

 
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They are going after the VETS because they dont want any RESISTANCE when china and russias army invade america
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this statement makes more sense every day
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DETAILED WORLD WAR 3 PREDICTION - CHECK THE LONGER VERSION OF THE VISION

You should check this thread, the only prediction that is 100% Accurate


CHINA AND RUSSIA WILL SEND IN "PEACE KEEPERS", BUT THAT IS A LIE, THEY WILL START INVADING AMERICA DISGUISED AS PEACEKEEPERS, THATS HOW THEY WILL GAIN ENTRY IN AMERICA

Thread: Interesting prediction, though scary considering the nuke test
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why did this get unpinned Mods! get your shit together. almost all the pinned stuff right now is a joke half of it's garbage but still every night it's the same with like the 1st page all pinned up of pure BS
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Dated before executive orders?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9042924


This has nothing to do with Executive orders.

NY State laws just passed ban this type of mag.
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And...what executive orders do you think have nothing to do with this?
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You know the worst part? We did this to ourselves by giving up our natural rights because we were so ready to accept the pat answers post-911. The Patriot Acts, the TSA, the drones, the video surveillance, and now here we are, decorated war veterans are the "enemy". Talk about Twilight zone. We're living in a repressive Orwellian police state.
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid

Correct.

One born collectively of Americans' own apathy and naivety.

Freedom is not free. It must be seized and jealously guarded.

But since most Americans have forgotten that truism, they will inevitably be forced to experience what life is like without freedom in order to realize what they have allowed to be stolen from them.

As was said, those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. It's happening right now.
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This is a communist country now. You all need to accept this, and support any discipline this criminal is sentenced with.

Your words will have zero impact of the transformation of this republic. You enslavement is no longer inevitable, but a fact of life now.

Just go along to get along, submit yourself fully to those in power, and your life will be simpler.

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Didn't take you long to cave, did it?
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I am leaving the usa after reading this.I am a vet and the cops have actually come after me.I am banned from stepping foot on my property.I had surgery and the local druggies new I had pain meds,came into my home stole them,my silver collection and trashed my house.I was charged.But I will beat the charge.The druggie got so high he got nailed with 5 charges and is now a fugitive.True story.After my trail I am out of the usa too beleize south america.Where its sunny warm and the cost of living is not bad.2000 dollars a month and you live like a king.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6484430


Have you actually seen the people of Belize?
The west coast of central america is run by drug gangs.
Violent drug gangs with no limits and no fears.
Why do you think a multimillionaire like MacCaffee was so gun and security crazy?
You may not be so happy to be there on your own, alone with no connections and no friends and 2000 american dollars just begging to be made into installment payments on ransom or protection from the local gangs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


I think you've gone overboard with that post.

I live on the west coast of Central America in a large city where the violent crime rate is very low. It's much safer to live here than in a city in the USA.

In fact, the poster would do well to consider Panama over Belize. The infrastructure here is much better.

We have a state of the art John Hopkins Hospital here, an international airport, large fancy malls, a multitude of nice restaurants, bars, and clubs, wine festivals, casinos, a major venue concert hall that attracts bands like Metallica, a large American expat community, a private banking sector that rivals Switzerland's (admittedly not as private as before, though if you have Panamanian residency, you're protected), and you could still live well on $2000 a month (probably not as well as in Belize, though it depends on your definition of living well).

To my understanding, it's just been made much easier and cheaper for Americans (and Europeans) to get residency here. I think if you're bringing in $2000 a month (and this is certainly true if it's a pension), you'd qualify. Check with an immigration attorney to be sure.

Also, to the poster who is considering moving to Central America, you must beat that drug charge, or you aren't going anywhere. You will be required to prove that you are not a felon before any country will allow you to immigrate there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31625978

If he does get stuck with a felony record, then while permanent residency and citizenship will be very hard to get without knowing the right officials, he can still expatriate by becoming a permanent tourist. The limitation would be that he'll have to leave whatever country he is staying in from time to time to reset the timer on his tourist entry visa or stamp. And, he'll likely not be allowed to stay in any country more than 180 days out of the year, no matter how many times he exits the country. So, he may need to have 2 or 3 countries to stay in over time. But it's easy to do when most countries of the world are no bigger than a US state.

So, perhaps Belize and Panama would be good choices if he has the funds to regularly travel back and forth between the two. Otherwise, perhaps Belize-Guatamala, Belize-Mexico or Panama-Costa Rica or Panama-Columbia, etc. would work.
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If it was a 30 round mag that was not pre-94 ("pre-ban"), I think it was not legal before the new NY law either. So there would be no grandfathering, no time to sell out of state.

I don't know what burden of proof there is about whether a mag is pre-94 or not.
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The sad thing is, I believe most magazines before 1994 did not have dates or serial numbers stamped on them. So, if they tell you to "prove it's pre-ban", I think most people cannot, unless maybe they still have receipts for those dating back to that time that have not faded by now.

And they know this. It's just a game to them. A deadly game.
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War heroes and gun owners are now considered to be terrorists.....
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By the REAL terrorists.

Amazing how most people still don't realize that war has been declared on them by traitors.
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What exactly is a "vehicle check"?
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A total and complete violation of your 4th amendment rights.
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I am leaving the usa after reading this.I am a vet and the cops have actually come after me.I am banned from stepping foot on my property.I had surgery and the local druggies new I had pain meds,came into my home stole them,my silver collection and trashed my house.I was charged.But I will beat the charge.The druggie got so high he got nailed with 5 charges and is now a fugitive.True story.After my trail I am out of the usa too beleize south america.Where its sunny warm and the cost of living is not bad.2000 dollars a month and you live like a king.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6484430


Have you actually seen the people of Belize?
The west coast of central america is run by drug gangs.
Violent drug gangs with no limits and no fears.
Why do you think a multimillionaire like MacCaffee was so gun and security crazy?
You may not be so happy to be there on your own, alone with no connections and no friends and 2000 american dollars just begging to be made into installment payments on ransom or protection from the local gangs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


I think you've gone overboard with that post.

I live on the west coast of Central America in a large city where the violent crime rate is very low. It's much safer to live here than in a city in the USA.

In fact, the poster would do well to consider Panama over Belize. The infrastructure here is much better.

We have a state of the art John Hopkins Hospital here, an international airport, large fancy malls, a multitude of nice restaurants, bars, and clubs, wine festivals, casinos, a major venue concert hall that attracts bands like Metallica, a large American expat community, a private banking sector that rivals Switzerland's (admittedly not as private as before, though if you have Panamanian residency, you're protected), and you could still live well on $2000 a month (probably not as well as in Belize, though it depends on your definition of living well).

To my understanding, it's just been made much easier and cheaper for Americans (and Europeans) to get residency here. I think if you're bringing in $2000 a month (and this is certainly true if it's a pension), you'd qualify. Check with an immigration attorney to be sure.

Also, to the poster who is considering moving to Central America, you must beat that drug charge, or you aren't going anywhere. You will be required to prove that you are not a felon before any country will allow you to immigrate there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31625978

If he does get stuck with a felony record, then while permanent residency and citizenship will be very hard to get without knowing the right officials, he can still expatriate by becoming a permanent tourist. The limitation would be that he'll have to leave whatever country he is staying in from time to time to reset the timer on his tourist entry visa or stamp. And, he'll likely not be allowed to stay in any country more than 180 days out of the year, no matter how many times he exits the country. So, he may need to have 2 or 3 countries to stay in over time. But it's easy to do when most countries of the world are no bigger than a US state.

So, perhaps Belize and Panama would be good choices if he has the funds to regularly travel back and forth between the two. Otherwise, perhaps Belize-Guatamala, Belize-Mexico or Panama-Costa Rica or Panama-Columbia, etc. would work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33431508


Smart thinking. I had not thought of that. It would not be the most convenient way to live, but it would be doable. With the right attitude, it could even be fun.

A single man could pull it off. I don't think it would be as easy for a married man or very safe for a single woman to do though.
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Last spring they were throwing a banquet in this guys honor attended by 400 people including a 2 star general.

9 months later he's facing 5 felony charges for being caught in possesion of 5 30 round magazines at a "registration check" road block.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29992561


His Jewish Masters tell him what he can and can't have.

And if he doesn;t do exactly like they say, they will ruin his life.

He's not one of the chosen people.

Who does he think he is going against these Jews and what they have had their negro employees type up on decades old manual typwriters and onion skin (cheap) paper.

In every country of Europe, at one time or another, they have been legaly forbiden from holding public office, and have been thrown out of the country.
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A suggestion.

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January 31, 2013 9:27 AM EST

Find the name of the prosecutor who is pushing this and post it online for everyone to see. These people who go after vets like this and not the rich media liberals, for something as stupid as a magazine, need their names and addresses brought out into the light.


[link to gunssavelives.net]

If they can publicize the names of law abiding gun owners, we can publicize the names of the people who are trying to turn us all into criminals.
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^^^^^^
THIS
NOW OR NEVER.

EXPOSE EXPOSE EXPOSE THEM NOW!!!
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You know the worst part? We did this to ourselves by giving up our natural rights because we were so ready to accept the pat answers post-911. The Patriot Acts, the TSA, the drones, the video surveillance, and now here we are, decorated war veterans are the "enemy". Talk about Twilight zone. We're living in a repressive Orwellian police state.
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I didn't do this to myself. I have never agreed with any of the above. I certainly don't endorse them now. I'd wager to say that a majority of Americans are against what is going on now, but the truth is there is NO WAY OUT. The people that we can vote for are hand picked to keep us in chains, so it doesn't matter who we vote for.
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What exactly is a "vehicle check"?
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A shredding of the 4th amendment. Just like everything else cops do these days.
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Just like everything the "progressives" i.e. communists do these days.

As in the days of Stalin so shall it be for the United States.
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OMFG, as a veteran of the Army and having served most of my time in Fort Drum, NY myself.....this is an absolute outrage! I guarantee the magazines that he had in his possession were issued to him when he was in the military, they do not expect you to return them when you leave the service. I can't tell you how many I still had in my possession when I left FT. Drum, but thank God I didn't remain in the area. This is a straight demonizing smear campaign on this Vet, how many more will be treated the same way in the Watertown/FT. Drum area? This can't just go silently into the night, we have to blow the doors off of this one any way we can!
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from the Watertown Daily Times
Injured veteran arrested in weapons investigation:

[link to www.watertowndailytimes.com]
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Being a "Hero" vet, he probably didn't think the law would apply to him...
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He's probably just a set-up used to make an example of the inflexibility of the law.

It's a way to say to the people "we don't care who you are or how recently this was done. Obey immediately! No exceptions! or face our wrath!"
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"Magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds and manufactured before 1994, which are currently legal, would have to be turned over to authorities or sold out of state within one year. If a magazine has a capacity between eight and 10, it would have to be retrofitted to only hold seven rounds."

So how legit is this story? I checked and confirmed. Unless 30-round mags were already illegal in New York, he had every right to still have them until the year is up, right?
 Quoting: ifSHTF


Sounds as if they are only giving time to mags manufactured prior to 1994...when the Clintoon "Gun Ban" went into effect...

Really doesn't matter though...the "Law" that Governor Cornhole signed into law will more likely than not be challanged and found to be unconstitutional...possible that this mans case will become that challange case...hopefully after that happens he will sue the snot out of everything and everyone.
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Best I can figure, the INTENT of this crazy NY law was to end up at SCOTUS. The libs are hooping for a broad opinion that will outline the limits of the 2nd Amendment.

Then they'll write a Federal law that goes up just to those limits, that's as restrictive as possible while having the explicit recent approval of SCOTUS.

I hope any court, including SCOTUS, will write a narrow opinion saying simply that these mags were grandfathered or reasonably believed to be grandfathered, end of story. Don't give the Feds an outline of how to write their law.
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give this man a cigar!

he's got it right
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I see TRIN still wearing his Christmas hat....
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This story is fake anyway
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People on another forum were saying the same thing. That thiis report was fake. Any details on how/why this is fake?
It represents my belief in personal freedom and my sense of individuality.
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Ugh, sickening that they've done this. This'll piss off a ton of people not to mention would probably make people think twice about joining the military if it's come to this.
Sounds like they really are wanting to push us into revolting because it will come to that if they continue to pull on pulling this kind of shit.

I mean why protect the government if they're only going to turn around and criminalize you for practicing your rights?
Because this guy did protect this country and it's government and yet he's not allow to practice his right to own a rifle?

I highly doubt this guy is even a danger to the public. He doesn't seem to be the type to use it on some innocent bystander. He probably keeps it as a form of protection or even as a hobby.
"The human race. For such an intelligent lot you aren't half susceptible. Give anyone a chance to take control and you submit. Sometimes I think you like it. Easy life." - The Doctor
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This story is fake anyway
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People on another forum were saying the same thing. That thiis report was fake. Any details on how/why this is fake?
 Quoting: Stink Finger


It is NOT fake!

Here's the link to the story in the local newspaper, the Watertown Daily Times:

[link to www.watertowndailytimes.com]

You can email the reporter by clicking on his name. Why don't you ask him if it is fake.
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Let me get this straight.

The cops searched his car, probably on a fishing expedition.

They didn't find the gun.

They found the magazines.

So he was arrested for having ammunition in his car?

What kind of crap has been going on in NY anyways?

Watertown is a rural area.
 Quoting: 13th-Century


To my belief it's not ammo that got him arrested, it was the gun MAGAZINES themselves, I'm guessing their cracking down on high round magazines, specifically for AR's.

*edit* nevermind, scratch that.

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Has ANYONE picked this up yet on the "news"? Like Hannity or Aholex Jhones? I haven't had time to listen, but it seems like something they would have a field day with!
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He was simply selling 5 empty magazines EMPHASIS on EMPTY, there was no weapon in the truck that uses said magazines nor ammo.
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Dated before executive orders?
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january 1st New York / Cuomo and his cronies banned all large capacity mags and AR15's..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33359272


quomo's "NY safe act" was signed into law jan 15th so this pre-dates it.

theres so little info, but im assuming that his magazines were POST BAN.

the clinton assault weapon ban never expired in NY. high cap mags are legal if they are PRE BAN meaning made before 1994.(until jan 15th 2014 then they are felony to have in NY)

maybe this guy had 5 "p-mags" or some other plastic mags that werent even made before 1994 or something IDK.

the burden is on the state to prove a magazine is post ban, most mags dont have any dates on them.

if not, then this is a gross abuse of the law and a clear violation of civil rights.

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Has ANYONE picked this up yet on the "news"? Like Hannity or Aholex Jhones? I haven't had time to listen, but it seems like something they would have a field day with!
 Quoting: Reckless Driver 24817147


i heard it on mark levin or andrew wilkow or something on sirius patriot radio
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bet he's the pigs bitch now. but don't call them guntards. no. don't ever do that.

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