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MSM calls Alabama hostage taker was a prepper!!!!

 
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Anyone who legally owns a gun is a "prepper" by most people's ignorant perception. Why would you even need a gun unless you were preparing to hunt, which is iteself a prepper type activity, as no civilized human needs hunt for food these days.

Oh well, draw the lines MSM, Obaman, politicians, et. al.
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I agree.. How is he a prepper when the bunker is behind Destiny church even...
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Anyone see this guys picture?

It's fucking Gene Rosen!

These motherfuckers are so arrogant. They put him out there again, to spit in our face. If that's not enough they announce "Sandy Hook Choir" to sing at the Super Bowl.

Fucking ridiculous .. they're just laughing about the shit they can pull off.
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a prepper afraid of alien abductions...

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this guy is a nut and dangerous. should have been put away a long time ago.
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Wow my first pin. Thanks!

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if he is truly a prepper he should be on one of the popular sites perhaps even here at glp....do you think he has web acess in his bunker? why don't we encourage a well and equally equipped "prepper" to go in and negotiate? Maybe even facilitate a rescue.?...
 Quoting: Scarbedazzles


He has electricty and television in his bunker -- no reason he wouldn't have internet as well.

Let us not forget that Randy Weaver of Ruby Ridge finally surrendered when a highly decorated combat veteran -- someone Weaver respected -- went in to negotiate his surrender.

There is much to be said for negotiation in a situation like this.
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a prepper afraid of alien abductions...

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Yeah I heard that yesterday. They interviewed a neighbor who said he was a prepper who believed in UFO's. He would shoot at anything that came on his property.
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Hmm...wonder if he was a member here. hiding
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Shepherd Smith just interviewed a local guy who had a run-in with the suspect. This local guy was in a truck with his mom and 6 mo old daughter when the suspect waved him down in the road. Suspect was screaming obscenities at him about what I do not know, but local guy told him to calm down. Suspect then went to his van and pulled out a pistol, at which point local guy floored the truck to get out of there. Suspect shot at him twice as he was leaving. Local guy called the cops and reported this. Now, I don't know when this happened or what the cops did about it. Neighbors around him all said he was psycho.

If cops ignored these reports...THIS is the kind of stuff they should be doing. Get a report of a guy acting crazy and firing guns at people for no good reason, investigate and, yeah, take his guns away! BEFORE he takes a 5 year old boy into a hole in the ground for godssake.
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Shepherd Smith just interviewed a local guy who had a run-in with the suspect. This local guy was in a truck with his mom and 6 mo old daughter when the suspect waved him down in the road. Suspect was screaming obscenities at him about what I do not know, but local guy told him to calm down. Suspect then went to his van and pulled out a pistol, at which point local guy floored the truck to get out of there. Suspect shot at him twice as he was leaving. Local guy called the cops and reported this. Now, I don't know when this happened or what the cops did about it. Neighbors around him all said he was psycho.

If cops ignored these reports...THIS is the kind of stuff they should be doing. Get a report of a guy acting crazy and firing guns at people for no good reason, investigate and, yeah, take his guns away! BEFORE he takes a 5 year old boy into a hole in the ground for godssake.
 Quoting: upyoursnwo 31907650


I don't know, where there any other witnesses? Bullets in the truck? empty shell casing? what kind of evidence besides this local guy's testimony? Obviously fox news did some leg work and got a copy of the police report to back up the story?

I ask because I get real concerned about this line of thinking. who's to say you or I are not the next one they label a psycho? When they control the press, they can get away with about anything. Now this case is an exception, but often times you here nothing but nice things from neighbors.
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Waco#2.
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Yes, and then send STERN WARNINGS to all preppers to be "prepared" for the gov't coming for them!
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Shepherd Smith just interviewed a local guy who had a run-in with the suspect. This local guy was in a truck with his mom and 6 mo old daughter when the suspect waved him down in the road. Suspect was screaming obscenities at him about what I do not know, but local guy told him to calm down. Suspect then went to his van and pulled out a pistol, at which point local guy floored the truck to get out of there. Suspect shot at him twice as he was leaving. Local guy called the cops and reported this. Now, I don't know when this happened or what the cops did about it. Neighbors around him all said he was psycho.

If cops ignored these reports...THIS is the kind of stuff they should be doing. Get a report of a guy acting crazy and firing guns at people for no good reason, investigate and, yeah, take his guns away! BEFORE he takes a 5 year old boy into a hole in the ground for godssake.
 Quoting: upyoursnwo 31907650


They claim to have the guy's name. Does he have any family? Besides being a "prepper" and having a terrible temper against anyone/thing who "violates his space," isn't there someone they can talk to about this guy's frame of mind, or plans?

I don't see this ending well.......
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So what does this make the government if they are stocking up on millions of rounds of ammo and buying up all the assault rifles?
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A tense standoff in Alabama continued into the early hours Thursday as authorities demanded the gunman to surrender from his underground bunker and free a child hostage.
“Give up! You need to exit the shelter, put down any weapons you have and approach police!” a negotiator said to the suspect, identified as 65-year-old Jimmy Lee Dykes, who is believed to have killed a man Tuesday before kidnapping the young boy.
New details have also emerged of Dykes, who is described by neighbors as “very paranoid,” anti-government and possibly a “Doomsday prepper.”


Read more: [link to www.nydailynews.com]

I knew it was only a matter of time before the focus of this went to making preppers out to be batshit crazy anti government psychos. They want to destroy any credibility that anyone who speaks out against big brother Obama could ever hope to have.
 Quoting: AgnosticDeity


as if most preppers werent bat shit crazy.....

and to make it worse there are people starving in the world . while others hoard food to survive a damn apocalypse... its fuckin sad
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I knew it was only a matter of time before the focus of this went to making preppers out to be batshit crazy anti government psychos. They want to destroy any credibility that anyone who speaks out against big brother Obama could ever hope to have.
 Quoting: AgnosticDeity


It appears that this guy might very well be a batshit crazy anti-government psycho. Which is obviously part of the story. If the media wasn't reporting anything about the guy THAT would be considered a conspiracy.

Also, the Conspiracy Theory community is doing a damn good job destroying their credibility without any help from the media or the government.
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I ask because I get real concerned about this line of thinking. who's to say you or I are not the next one they label a psycho?
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What line of reasoning is that? That someone who goes around randomly shooting at and killing people and kidnapping little children poses a threat that needs to be dealt with?
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At this stage of the game we are all preppers in one way or the other.
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^^^^^THIS^^^^^

ive never heard sooo much chatter from supposed normal folks sounding worried about what to do if shtf.
 Quoting: Scarbedazzles


This is VERY true -

I was asked the question just yesterday "What do you prep for", as if true preppers are actually categorized as portrayed on popular television shows.

My response; "Living"

I want my family to be as cared for tomorrow as they are today. Our mantra here is "Prepare for those events with a propensity of happening in your geographic area - and you'll then be prepared should the day come that zombies begin to make their way down your street".
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Good advice. Good website in your signature too. Mission statement is enough to sell me.
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I agree, AC..ClydeX is a good soul. ;)
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if he is truly a prepper he should be on one of the popular sites perhaps even here at glp....do you think he has web acess in his bunker? why don't we encourage a well and equally equipped "prepper" to go in and negotiate? Maybe even facilitate a rescue.?...
 Quoting: Scarbedazzles


He has electricty and television in his bunker -- no reason he wouldn't have internet as well.

Let us not forget that Randy Weaver of Ruby Ridge finally surrendered when a highly decorated combat veteran -- someone Weaver respected -- went in to negotiate his surrender.

There is much to be said for negotiation in a situation like this.
 Quoting: goodmockingbird


True, but Randy had also seen his wife shot and killed while holding the baby in their cabin...and his son shot in the back..

negotiation can sometimes work or make the situation accelerate...tricky business..

in any case, I just hope they get the little angel out of there, soon..bless his heart..

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if he is truly a prepper he should be on one of the popular sites perhaps even here at glp....do you think he has web acess in his bunker? why don't we encourage a well and equally equipped "prepper" to go in and negotiate? Maybe even facilitate a rescue.?...
 Quoting: Scarbedazzles


He has electricty and television in his bunker -- no reason he wouldn't have internet as well.

Let us not forget that Randy Weaver of Ruby Ridge finally surrendered when a highly decorated combat veteran -- someone Weaver respected -- went in to negotiate his surrender.

There is much to be said for negotiation in a situation like this.
 Quoting: goodmockingbird


True, but Randy had also seen his wife shot and killed while holding the baby in their cabin...and his son shot in the back..

negotiation can sometimes work or make the situation accelerate...tricky business..

in any case, I just hope they get the little angel out of there, soon..bless his heart..

 Quoting: Abi ~


The Ruby Ridge incident's decline into mayhem had little to do with "negotiations" - not to mention Randy being set up and goaded into doing something he had many times expressed he had no interest in.

Specifically, referring to Mrs. Weaver and the child - you can thank that piece of garbage Lon Horiuchi for that - he was the shooter that took Mr. Weaver's wife and child. He was also at the Waco event, just for the record.

Last I saw of him - he was being paid to endorse various pieces of shooting hardware.

Randy Weaver lost his freedom temporarily and his family permanently - Lon Horiuchi is still making money. Tell me no one else sees something wrong with this picture? Tell me this was all worth enforcing some arbitrary stupidity surrounding an extra half-inch off of a shotgun barrel.

Sorry for the OT rant OP. Just because this happened ~20 years ago doesn't mean it should be forgotten, nor should we forget how much the government has grown and how evil they have become in the interim.

Thanks for the kind words, by the way Abi~
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Guy is still in the tornado shelter (or bunker if you ask the MSM) with the kid. Hope that they can end this for the kid soon.
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if he is truly a prepper he should be on one of the popular sites perhaps even here at glp....do you think he has web acess in his bunker? why don't we encourage a well and equally equipped "prepper" to go in and negotiate? Maybe even facilitate a rescue.?...
 Quoting: Scarbedazzles


He has electricty and television in his bunker -- no reason he wouldn't have internet as well.

Let us not forget that Randy Weaver of Ruby Ridge finally surrendered when a highly decorated combat veteran -- someone Weaver respected -- went in to negotiate his surrender.

There is much to be said for negotiation in a situation like this.
 Quoting: goodmockingbird


True, but Randy had also seen his wife shot and killed while holding the baby in their cabin...and his son shot in the back..

negotiation can sometimes work or make the situation accelerate...tricky business..

in any case, I just hope they get the little angel out of there, soon..bless his heart..

 Quoting: Abi ~


The Ruby Ridge incident's decline into mayhem had little to do with "negotiations" - not to mention Randy being set up and goaded into doing something he had many times expressed he had no interest in.

Specifically, referring to Mrs. Weaver and the child - you can thank that piece of garbage Lon Horiuchi for that - he was the shooter that took Mr. Weaver's wife and child. He was also at the Waco event, just for the record.

Last I saw of him - he was being paid to endorse various pieces of shooting hardware.

Randy Weaver lost his freedom temporarily and his family permanently - Lon Horiuchi is still making money. Tell me no one else sees something wrong with this picture? Tell me this was all worth enforcing some arbitrary stupidity surrounding an extra half-inch off of a shotgun barrel.

Sorry for the OT rant OP. Just because this happened ~20 years ago doesn't mean it should be forgotten, nor should we forget how much the government has grown and how evil they have become in the interim.

Thanks for the kind words, by the way Abi~
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^^You are right! and you are welcome, the kind words were truth..;)
Ruby Ridge broke my heart..it was one of the first of many things that woke me up..

Pisses me off, still, to think about what they did to that family. I don't think negotiations would have worked for me, in a case like that..especially if I did nothing wrong and a bunch of po-potards who thought they were the shit, came to MY house and shot my family and dog...

I still cry when I watch that..how can you not?

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Of course, they have to slap a label on him to make him sound crazy.

Maybe it's time we label MSM reporters as "Communist Sympathizers".
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^^^^
"...slap a label on him...make him sound crazy..."

As 'if' what he'd already DONE ("kidnapping" a "child")
wasn't CRAZY ENOUGH!!

Citing the 'bunker' background info was fair, but DEVOLVING it into the MEME:

Anti-government Paranoid Prepper

--Demonizes 'ANTI-COMMUNISTIC' 'PATRIOTIC AMERICANS' who know good and damn well the MSM DOES sympathize with
'el pinkos'...

Those woman 'demonstrators' who wear 'pink' (YET ANOTHER LEFTIST FACTION) hold up signs stating:

"We support the killing of U.S. soldiers"

...for G-d's sake...and...they were over there during the Gaza flotilla debacle, meddling in foreign affairs, as was Ayers & Dohrn et al.

Your correctly coined-term:

MSM = COMMUNITIST SYMPATHIZERS

...is dead on the marx.
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Of course, they have to slap a label on him to make him sound crazy.

Maybe it's time we label MSM reporters as "Communist Sympathizers".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15292827

^^^^
"...slap a label on him...make him sound crazy..."

As 'if' what he'd already DONE ("kidnapping" a "child")
wasn't CRAZY ENOUGH!!

Citing the 'bunker' background info was fair, but DEVOLVING it into the MEME:

Anti-government Paranoid Prepper

--Demonizes 'ANTI-COMMUNISTIC' 'PATRIOTIC AMERICANS' who know good and damn well the MSM DOES sympathize with
'el pinkos'...

Those woman 'demonstrators' who wear 'pink' (YET ANOTHER LEFTIST FACTION) hold up signs stating:

"We support the killing of U.S. soldiers"

...for G-d's sake...and...they were over there during the Gaza flotilla debacle, meddling in foreign affairs, as was Ayers & Dohrn et al.

Your correctly coined-term:

MSM = COMMUNITIST SYMPATHIZERS

...is dead on the marx.
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"Singletary and her brother, Tristian, 12, said Dykes boarded the bus on Tuesday and offered the driver what appeared to be broccoli and a note, before demanding two children. "

Broccoli?
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