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MUST READ ! THE ARK OF THE COVENANT THE TRUE STORY FROM YOUR HOLY BOOKS AND SCROLLS

 
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MUST READ ! THE ARK OF THE COVENANT THE TRUE STORY FROM YOUR HOLY BOOKS AND SCROLLS
Walk away from seducing spirits that lie against the word and truth of God.This is a historical and biblical scroll account of the arc of the covenant. Is either you believe the word or believe these lying scientists, men and women of ill repute who are dangerous shepherds

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The Ark of the Covenant is thousands of years older the Jesus...This from scripture is how the ark was made
exodus chapter 37

1 And Bezaleel made the ark of shittim wood: two cubits and a half was the length of it, and a cubit and a half the breadth of it, and a cubit and a half the height of it:

2 And he overlaid it with pure gold within and without, and made a crown of gold to it round about.

3 And he cast for it four rings of gold, to be set by the four corners of it; even two rings upon the one side of it, and two rings upon the other side of it.

4 And he made staves of shittim wood, and overlaid them with gold.

5 And he put the staves into the rings by the sides of the ark, to bear the ark.


**NOTICE NO WINGS OR ANGELS ON IT BUT THEY WILL BE MADE ON THE COVER OF IT WHICH IS THE MERCY SEAT**

[6 And he made the mercy seat of pure gold: two cubits and a half was the length thereof, and one cubit and a half the breadth thereof.

7 And he made two cherubim of gold, beaten out of one piece made he them, on the two ends of the mercy seat;

8 One cherub on the end on this side, and another cherub on the other end on that side: out of the mercy seat made he the cherubim on the two ends thereof.

9 And the cherubim spread out their wings on high, and covered with their wings over the mercy seat, with their faces one to another; even to the mercy seatward were the faces of the cherubim.

Each cherub has 4 wings and 4 faces so anybody seeing this will remember definitely

A closer interpretation as per exodus but with four faces

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10 And he made the table of shittim wood: two cubits was the length thereof, and a cubit the breadth thereof, and a cubit and a half the height thereof:




It was carried by the Israelite's during their Exodus from Egypt, as they built it during the Exodus. The bible tells us that any Army that carried the Ark before it, into battle, was undefeated. It was eventually kept within Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem after the Israelite's settled their Promised Land.

However the Ark itself was lost after 586 AD when the Babylonian's invaded and conquered Israel and destroyed Solomon's Temple.

No one knows where the ark is except a very few choice men,which I will show further down in this thread

If it were to have been found, it would be the subject of international news headlines and churches around the world would be going absolutely nuts.

The Ark contained the original stone tablets upon which the original Ten Commandments were printed, by the Hand of God Himself, as well as all the other stone tablets upon which his "Covenant" or "law" was recorded.

This Covenant is the same which Jesus Christ replaced with Himself during The Last Supper.

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ON THE CONTRARY WE DO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BUT THE BOOKS WERE PULLED AND CALLED FROBIDDEN BY ROME AND THE GREEKS BECAUSE IT WAS RECORDED

BARUCH ANOTHER HOLY MAN AND PROPHET WAS IN THE TIME OF JEREMAIH AND EZRA AND HE GAVE AN ACCOUNT OF THE ARK

For those of you who love to really argue without researching the bible, well it is recorded in your bible that baruch was a scroll writer of hebraic events


Jer 36:4 ¶ Then Jeremiah called Baruch the son of Neriah: and Baruch wrote from the mouth of Jeremiah all the words of the LORD, which he had spoken unto him, upon a roll of a book.


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Baruch Chapter 6

1 And it came to pass on the morrow that, lo! the army of the Chaldees surrounded the city, and at the time of the evening, I, Baruch, left the people, and I went forth and stood by the oak.

2 And I was grieving over Zion, and lamenting over the captivity which had come upon the people.

3 And lo! suddenly a strong spirit raised me, and bore me aloft over the wall of Jerusalem.

4 And I beheld, and lo! four angels standing at the four corners of the city, each of them holding a torch of fire in his hands.

5 And another angel began to descend from heaven. and said unto them: 'Hold your lamps, and do not light them till I tell you.

6 For I am first sent to speak a word to the earth, and to place in it what the Lord the Most High has commanded me.'

7 And I saw him descend into the Holy of Holies, and take from there the veil, and holy ark, and the mercy-seat, and the two tables, and the holy raiment of the priests, and the altar of incense, and the forty-eight precious stones, wherewith the priest was adorned and all the holy vessels of the tabernacle.

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THE HOLY OF HOLIES IN THE TEMPLE AND THE CRUCIFIXION SITE IS ABOUT A HALF A MILE APART


8 And he spoke to the earth with a loud voice: 'Earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the mighty God, And receive what I commit to you, And guard them until the last times, So that, when you are ordered, you may restore them, So that strangers [GENTILE] may not get possession of them.

9 For the time comes when Jerusalem also will be delivered for a time, Until it is said, that it is again restored for ever.'

10 And the earth opened its mouth and swallowed them up
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Please check out from Wyatts website the artist interpretation as Mr WYATT described the ark.Try not to laugh
[link to www.covenantkeepers.co.uk]

Verses 7-8 describe how the ark was positioned beneath the wings of the “cherubim”: “The priests brought the Ark of the LORD’s Covenant to its place in the inner Sanctuary of the House, in the Holy of Holies, beneath the wings of the cherubim; for the cherubim had their wings spread out over the place of the Ark so that the cherubim covered the Ark and its poles from above.”Do you see this in his description of the ark? no!no because the ark had no angels or wings attached.The cherubims were in the temple over the mercy seat



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NOW CHECK OUT WHAT EZEKIEL DESCRIBED ARTIST REPRESENTATION AS THE BIBLE DEPICTION OF A CHERUB
21-22: Each one had four faces and each had four wings, with the form of human hands under the wings. As for the form of their faces, they were the very faces that I had seen by the Chebar Canal — their appearance and their features — and each could move in the direction of any of its faces.



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Jer 36:4 ¶ Then Jeremiah called Baruch the son of Neriah: and Baruch wrote from the mouth of Jeremiah all the words of the LORD, which he had spoken unto him, upon a roll of a book.


Again you false teachers and preachers I warn you to desist from making the word of God a Circus.You all been taught to assume things by only reading your NEW TESTAMENT.

You kick a tantrum when I present you with facts and falsely accuse me of being a Pharasee and you say moses law we are not under anymore.You walk after sorcery and false teachings when the father gave you truth.Jesus is the word and these are the words written by the prophets. How can you love "the word" jesus and turn your back on him and believing these lying posters with their silly youtube videos. Test everything

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 02/02/2013 01:51 AM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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You all trust in lies.I trust in the Lord


1 Samuel 6:19

But God struck down some of the men of Beth Shemesh, putting seventy of them to death because they had looked into the ark of the Lord. The people mourned because of the heavy blow the Lord had dealt them.

2 Samuel 6:2-7 (also 1 Chr 13:7-10)

He and all his men set out from Baalah of Judah to bring up from there the ark of God, which is called by the Name, the name of the Lord Almighty, who is enthroned between the cherubim that are on the ark.

They set the ark of God on a new cart and brought it from the house of Abinadab, which was on the hill. Uzzah and Ahio, sons of Abinadab, were guiding the new cart with the ark of God on it, and Ahio was walking in front of it. David and the whole house of Israel were celebrating with all their might before the Lord , with songs and with harps, lyres, tambourines, sistrums and cymbals.

When they came to the threshing floor of Nacon, Uzzah reached out and took hold of the ark of God, because the oxen stumbled. The Lord's anger burned against Uzzah because of his irreverent act; therefore God struck him down and he died there beside the ark of God.



The Ark of the Covenant was an embodiment of God's presence with the Israelites. The atonement cover (or "mercy seat") that covered the ark was God's throne (2 Sam 6:2) and God's presence was above it (Lev 16:2); it was also the place where God met Moses and gave him commands (Ex 25:22).

If someone approached the ark, they would effectively be in God's presence - a sinner standing before a holy God who does not tolerate evil (Ps 5:4-6) - and would die as a result of their sins. For this reason, God had given the Israelites many rules concerning the Ark of the Covenant.

It was to be kept in the Most Holy Place in the temple, hidden from view by a curtain (Ex 26:33). Only the high priest could enter the Most Holy Place, and then only after he had undergone ceremonial cleansing, made sacrifices to atone for his sins and the nation's sins, and burned incense to conceal the atonement cover (Lev 16).

When the ark was moved, it was covered with at least 3 layers of cloth by the priests to protect others from seeing it (Num 4:5-6, 15, 18-20); the priests/Levites carried it and everyone else had to stay about a thousand yards away (Josh 3:4). These laws enforced the concept of God's holiness: sinful people couldn't be in his presence, not even the high priest.

Hence, when Uzzah touched the ark, he was profaning it and disobeying God; he should have grabbed the poles used for carrying the ark instead, for that was their purpose (Ex 25:14-15).

And as Glenn Miller points out in his response, the ark shouldn't have been on a cart anyway, but should have been carried on people's shoulders (1 Chr 15:15).


Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 01/31/2013 12:20 PM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Realistic. Thank you neimy
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Realistic. Thank you neimy
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Truth is truth you are welcome I am tired with these folk destroying the works of God.It is annoying to see
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Great thread - thank you so much for your research and time.

2 Questions ...

1. My book of Baruch only goes up to Chapter 5. What is your source for an expanded Book of Baruch?

2. I know geologists can, more often than not, figure out if a region has had earthquakes (and other earth movements), even if it was hundreds and thousands of years in the past (such as with the Cascadias - NW Pacific region).

So, I wonder if anyone has tried to figure out if any of the region surrounding the city of Jerusalem had any significant earth movement in and around the time this took place?

Or maybe they have and we just don't know about it. hide
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Great thread - thank you so much for your research and time.

2 Questions ...

1. My book of Baruch only goes up to Chapter 5. What is your source for an expanded Book of Baruch?

2. I know geologists can, more often than not, figure out if a region has had earthquakes (and other earth movements), even if it was hundreds and thousands of years in the past (such as with the Cascadias - NW Pacific region).

So, I wonder if anyone has tried to figure out if any of the region surrounding the city of Jerusalem had any significant earth movement in and around the time this took place?

Or maybe they have and we just don't know about it. hide
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I WILL SEND YOU THE LINK IN 5 MINS
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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[link to www.yahwehsword.org]


complete books of baruch
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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complete books of baruch
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Thanks so much! hf
[The amount of reading I have to do is piling up FAST! LOL]
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complete books of baruch
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Thanks so much! hf
[The amount of reading I have to do is piling up FAST! LOL]
 Quoting: OnTheFence


little by little and spend time on each subject that you need clarity on..

Use your concordance and bible references it helps a lot
[link to www.eliyah.com]
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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What of the Ethiopians, with the Levites vestment and one of the bowls from the temple?
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complete books of baruch
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Thanks so much! hf
[The amount of reading I have to do is piling up FAST! LOL]
 Quoting: OnTheFence


little by little and spend time on each subject that you need clarity on..

Use your concordance and bible references it helps a lot
[link to www.eliyah.com]
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


You know, I think we've "met" on the mIRC chat at eliyah.com *grins*
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complete books of baruch
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Thanks so much! hf
[The amount of reading I have to do is piling up FAST! LOL]
 Quoting: OnTheFence


little by little and spend time on each subject that you need clarity on..

Use your concordance and bible references it helps a lot
[link to www.eliyah.com]
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


You know, I think we've "met" on the mIRC chat at eliyah.com *grins*
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not likely I only do this forum.I am dedicated to here until further notice
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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little by little and spend time on each subject that you need clarity on..

Use your concordance and bible references it helps a lot
[link to www.eliyah.com]
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


You know, I think we've "met" on the mIRC chat at eliyah.com *grins*
 Quoting: OnTheFence


not likely I only do this forum.I am dedicated to here until further notice
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Ok - keep up the good work. =)
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Excellent work you have put in brother, there are many deceptions in this age and many have fallen prey to the ravenous wolves.
Andy M.

John 14:6 "Jesus answered, 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me'."
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Excellent work you have put in brother, there are many deceptions in this age and many have fallen prey to the ravenous wolves.
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yes I just get very upset with these pawns crying JESUS JESUS and misleading the flock just because they want good karma and applause from men.

I beleive no matter how unpopular you have to become we should stand in truth. It is a war and we have to tell truth,therefore I stand and not afraid to show it
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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You all trust in lies.I trust in the Lord

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so it's just gonna be you alone in heaven huh?
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You all trust in lies.I trust in the Lord

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so it's just gonna be you alone in heaven huh?
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heaven who goes to heaven ? bible never said that.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Interesting post about the Ark of the Covenant.


I have come across a humble little Temple in the poor nation of Ethiopia which claims to possess the Ark.

The priests which guard the Ark hold that it will be revealed to the World only upon the arrival of a "Friendly" nation into Ethiopia.

Sounds pretty fair to me.

Thanks again for shinning your light.
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"The photos below are various artists impressions and models based on what Ron Wyatt described."

So where is the ark if he found it in his bank vault?

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Interesting post about the Ark of the Covenant.


I have come across a humble little Temple in the poor nation of Ethiopia which claims to possess the Ark.

The priests which guard the Ark hold that it will be revealed to the World only upon the arrival of a "Friendly" nation into Ethiopia.

Sounds pretty fair to me.

Thanks again for shinning your light.
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you are welcome

If people take the word as truth a lot of these sensationalism and mystism will cease.The people posting all the dumb stuff how can you even trust them when they openly deny the laws of God and claim its done away with.They willfully denounce the sabbat which was ordained from creation before it was in the comandments as a reminder

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Interesting post about the Ark of the Covenant.


I have come across a humble little Temple in the poor nation of Ethiopia which claims to possess the Ark.

The priests which guard the Ark hold that it will be revealed to the World only upon the arrival of a "Friendly" nation into Ethiopia.

Sounds pretty fair to me.

Thanks again for shinning your light.
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you are welcome

If people take the word as truth a lot of these sensationalim and mystism will cease.The people posting all the dumb stuff how can you even trust them when they openly deny the laws of God and claim its done away with.They willfully denounce the sabbat which was ordained from creation before it was in the comandments as a reminder
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My view on the sabbath is this, and first I disclose that I have hardly read any Holy writings, on the Seventh Day the LORD rested, which to me means EVERYTHING for all time was finished.

Therefore, what we are experiencing is what he created then.

Thus, there is nothing that we are "doing" except witnessing his work.

And so with this point of view, I can rest each and everyday.

No worries, no trouble, and what ever will be will always be MAGNIFICENT to behold.

My oh my how Great is the LORD.
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people are after karma points and fame my path is to tell the truth no matter how unpopular. It is but the few who the father wants to understand they will have the spirit of understanding to discern.The majority will stay in their blind state without desire for the truth but lust to have theri ears tickled.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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About 2 thousand years ago, Jew historian Flavius Josephus wrote nobody was sure about the shape of the cherubim and yet in every single Christian magazine and book or Hollywood films we see over and over the same humanoids with wings. Wings were described but the cherubim, if we are going to believe Ezekiel's description (chapter 1) was something very different, not so different from sphinxes in Egypt and Sumeria. I will show you an image of what I think the cherubim was if we believe the visions of the prophet Ezekiel which are similar to the ones seen by John from Apocalypse. Cherubim were also part of the curtains of the temple and with interesting details.
The cherub did have 4 faces IN A SINGLE HEAD rather than 4 headed-monster. One was a calf, the other was something like a man, the other was an eagle and the other was a lion. However Ezekiel 41:18 and 19 provides a detail about the two-faced cherubim (in this case it was 2-faced because it was painted and FLAT or 2 dimensional so the design had to be done in profile, as I will show you it's very hard to paint a creature with 4 faces on a flat canvas because one face is missing, the one behind, so Hare Krishna's books or Egyptians had to paint their humanimal Transformer gods in profile or heads above the main head).

The detail is it was a YOUNG LION (in Hebrew this is "kefir" different from an adult lion). What do lion cubs lack? The mane! And they do have their spots more visible, they resemble leopards , jaguars and some young cougars which were also worshipped by other cultures. Chinese worshipped Persian lions which they did in statues in their temples besides the white tiger.
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Interesting post about the Ark of the Covenant.


I have come across a humble little Temple in the poor nation of Ethiopia which claims to possess the Ark.

The priests which guard the Ark hold that it will be revealed to the World only upon the arrival of a "Friendly" nation into Ethiopia.

Sounds pretty fair to me.

Thanks again for shinning your light.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


you are welcome

If people take the word as truth a lot of these sensationalim and mystism will cease.The people posting all the dumb stuff how can you even trust them when they openly deny the laws of God and claim its done away with.They willfully denounce the sabbat which was ordained from creation before it was in the comandments as a reminder
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


My view on the sabbath is this, and first I disclose that I have hardly read any Holy writings, on the Seventh Day the LORD rested, which to me means EVERYTHING for all time was finished.

Therefore, what we are experiencing is what he created then.

Thus, there is nothing that we are "doing" except witnessing his work.

And so with this point of view, I can rest each and everyday.

No worries, no trouble, and what ever will be will always be MAGNIFICENT to behold.

My oh my how Great is the LORD.
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Nice perception and I feel so too but there is an order ordained and specified by our creator.In this life we have to put down the things we feel is right and conform to his ways.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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First you notice Protestants always use drawings of angels with wings and Catholic people have imagined cherubim like babies with butterfly wings. This was never Ezekiel's description. The very name means winged-cows and I will tell you why: because besides the calf face, the feline face, the humanoid face and the bird face THEY HAVE FEET OF THE BULL and so they are more bull than the rest of creatures. I don't wanna explain the superficial and futile explanations the cherubim are archetypes or metaphors or symbols of the 4 writers of the Gospel or "qualities" and even constellations or 4 corners of the earth. The seraphim with 6 wings mentioned by Isaiah were nothing like that and we can see them in Egypt as well. No matter what explanation you wanna give them, it's obvious the cherubim upon the ark of the covenant were not the winged-humans you always see depicted.
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First you notice Protestants always use drawings of angels with wings and Catholic people have imagined cherubim like babies with butterfly wings. This was never Ezekiel's description. The very name means winged-cows and I will tell you why: because besides the calf face, the feline face, the humanoid face and the bird face THEY HAVE FEET OF THE BULL and so they are more bull than the rest of creatures. I don't wanna explain the superficial and futile explanations the cherubim are archetypes or metaphors or symbols of the 4 writers of the Gospel or "qualities" and even constellations or 4 corners of the earth. The seraphim with 6 wings mentioned by Isaiah were nothing like that and we can see them in Egypt as well. No matter what explanation you wanna give them, it's obvious the cherubim upon the ark of the covenant were not the winged-humans you always see depicted.
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very good point and I was going to touch on that later on..clappa
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Nice perception and I feel so too but there is an order ordained and specified by our creator.In this life we have to put down the things we feel is right and conform to his ways.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


And precepts are written down for those who do not have his precepts written in their hearts.

And those who do not have his precepts written in their hearts, will never understand those who do.

For our ways are not their ways.

This is to say simply, that each will find the light and the way the LORD of Hosts has made for them.

After all, this is ALL HIS Great Work.

WE are merely his witnesses.

This is my point of view only of course.
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About 2 thousand years ago, Jew historian Flavius Josephus wrote nobody was sure about the shape of the cherubim and yet in every single Christian magazine and book or Hollywood films we see over and over the same humanoids with wings. Wings were described but the cherubim, if we are going to believe Ezekiel's description (chapter 1) was something very different, not so different from sphinxes in Egypt and Sumeria. I will show you an image of what I think the cherubim was if we believe the visions of the prophet Ezekiel which are similar to the ones seen by John from Apocalypse. Cherubim were also part of the curtains of the temple and with interesting details.
The cherub did have 4 faces IN A SINGLE HEAD rather than 4 headed-monster. One was a calf, the other was something like a man, the other was an eagle and the other was a lion. However Ezekiel 41:18 and 19 provides a detail about the two-faced cherubim (in this case it was 2-faced because it was painted and FLAT or 2 dimensional so the design had to be done in profile, as I will show you it's very hard to paint a creature with 4 faces on a flat canvas because one face is missing, the one behind, so Hare Krishna's books or Egyptians had to paint their humanimal Transformer gods in profile or heads above the main head).

The detail is it was a YOUNG LION (in Hebrew this is "kefir" different from an adult lion). What do lion cubs lack? The mane! And they do have their spots more visible, they resemble leopards , jaguars and some young cougars which were also worshipped by other cultures. Chinese worshipped Persian lions which they did in statues in their temples besides the white tiger.
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The Cherubim are the living powers of (Tetragrammaton) on the material plane and the presidents of the four elememts. They operate through the fixed (kerubic) signs of the zodiac.

Interesting thread but I think the Arc is right under our noses.

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The cherub did have 4 faces IN A SINGLE HEAD rather than 4 headed-monster. One was a calf, the other was something like a man, the other was an eagle and the other was a lion. However Ezekiel 41:18 and 19 provides a detail about the two-faced cherubim (in this case it was 2-faced because it was painted and FLAT or 2 dimensional so the design had to be done in profile, as I will show you it's very hard to paint a creature with 4 faces on a flat canvas because one face is missing, the one behind, so Hare Krishna's books or Egyptians had to paint their humanimal Transformer gods in profile or heads above the main head).

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As you could see in the images, the artist had to paint them as seen from "above" and using an odd angle in order to represent at least part of the 4 faces of the animals in a single head. Other way to do it is using a transparent canvas and paint two from one side and two from the opposite side and then watch the whole thing against light to see overlapping the images together. Or use Dadaism painting technique which is enhancing the outline and do some colors inside and mingle them to look like ghost images. That's interdimensional realm...the real invisible matrix you can see only with hallucinogenic stuff, meditation, altered state of consciousness like the visionaries.

In Apocalypse 4 we see the same creatures but this time not with 4 wings of the cherubim but the 6 wings of the seraphim, not with 4 faces but only one out of 4 faces. In other words, it was a HYBRID CREATURE combo of seraphim and cherubim and since they don't belong to one of them they are called "living creatures".... with a detail:

They have EYES on their bodies and all over the wings. If you knew about the flies bombed with gamma rays you will know they grew eyes on feet and wings but the mutation was lkke that because the real invisible matrix is weird to our flesh and blood eyes.
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The cherub did have 4 faces IN A SINGLE HEAD rather than 4 headed-monster. One was a calf, the other was something like a man, the other was an eagle and the other was a lion. However Ezekiel 41:18 and 19 provides a detail about the two-faced cherubim (in this case it was 2-faced because it was painted and FLAT or 2 dimensional so the design had to be done in profile, as I will show you it's very hard to paint a creature with 4 faces on a flat canvas because one face is missing, the one behind, so Hare Krishna's books or Egyptians had to paint their humanimal Transformer gods in profile or heads above the main head).

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As you could see in the images, the artist had to paint them as seen from "above" and using an odd angle in order to represent at least part of the 4 faces of the animals in a single head. Other way to do it is using a transparent canvas and paint two from one side and two from the opposite side and then watch the whole thing against light to see overlapping the images together. Or use Dadaism painting technique which is enhancing the outline and do some colors inside and mingle them to look like ghost images. That's interdimensional realm...the real invisible matrix you can see only with hallucinogenic stuff, meditation, altered state of consciousness like the visionaries.

In Apocalypse 4 we see the same creatures but this time not with 4 wings of the cherubim but the 6 wings of the seraphim, not with 4 faces but only one out of 4 faces. In other words, it was a HYBRID CREATURE combo of seraphim and cherubim and since they don't belong to one of them they are called "living creatures".... with a detail:

They have EYES on their bodies and all over the wings. If you knew about the flies bombed with gamma rays you will know they grew eyes on feet and wings but the mutation was lkke that because the real invisible matrix is weird to our flesh and blood eyes.
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yep check out from Wyatts website the artist interpretation as Mr WYATT described

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NOW CHECK OUT WHAT EZEKIEL DESCRIBED ARTIST REPRESENTATION AS THE BIBLE DEPICTED


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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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