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Sandy Hook. How was Adam Lanza identified?

 
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Sandy Hook. How was Adam Lanza identified?
The identities of the 9/11 hijackers and their pictures mysteriously appeared a few days after 9/11 and there was no explanation of how they were identified. The fact that nearly half of them turned up alive didn't compel the investigators to make any corrections.

The body reportedly found at SH had a live person's ID meaning only that the body was not Ryan Lanza; Who it isn't doesn't prove who it is. Did they even have a body and if so how did they identify it - dental records?

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Re: Sandy Hook. How was Adam Lanza identified?
His father did but who knows how?
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Re: Sandy Hook. How was Adam Lanza identified?
Was Peter Lanza in Sandy Hook on December 14th?
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Re: Sandy Hook. How was Adam Lanza identified?
The identities of the 9/11 hijackers and their pictures mysteriously appeared a few days after 9/11 and there was no explanation of how they were identified. The fact that nearly half of them turned up alive didn't compel the investigators to make any corrections.

The body reportedly found at SH had a live person's ID meaning only that the body was not Ryan Lanza; Who it isn't doesn't prove who it is. Did they even have a body and if so how did they identify it - dental records?
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This brings up a really good point. If it was originally identified as Ryan, due to the ID, then how did they figure out it was Adam? And if Adam's father identified him, at what time did this happen?
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Re: Sandy Hook. How was Adam Lanza identified?
From the RFID chip implanted in his skull?
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From the RFID chip implanted in his skull?
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So far, the most likely suggestion. I'll go with this.
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Re: Sandy Hook. How was Adam Lanza identified?
they knew his nae because they killed him first
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Re: Sandy Hook. How was Adam Lanza identified?
Adam P. Lanza: Social Security Death Index (SSDI) Death Record
Name: Adam P. Lanza
State of Issue: New Hampshire
Date of Birth: Wednesday April 22, 1992
Date of Death: Thursday December 13, 2012
Est. Age at Death: 20 years, 7 months, 21 days

Some time before 9:30 a.m. EST on Friday, December 14, 2012, Lanza fatally shot his mother, Nancy Lanza, age 52, at their Newtown home.
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The "nurse" who is not on the state register of nurses "reportedly" saw his face when he walked in and identified Adam. She knew him because he was the son of a teacher at the school.

Her story later changed when she found out the official story had him wearing a mask AND Nancy never worked at the school. She then stated she only saw "black boots" while hiding under a desk.

The "altercation" between Adam and a teacher at the school the day before. That story was changed too.

The phone call from the principle identifying Adam as the shooter. That story was changed when the principle turned out to be dead at the time of the call.

Adam Lanza was never identified, he had no arrest record, so finger prints are OUT. No DNA, no id of the body, it was all scripted. There is no need for petty legal things like positive ID or even investigation. The script is what the script is.
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Remember that movie producers hire people to be ‘continuity directors’. Even with a set script all kinds of mistakes can be made that are not seen at the time but stand out after movie is released. This can be anything from a person on right mysteriously ending up on left in next shot or something out of logical sequence.

Continuity direction is not an easy job. For years Time Magazine had two basic types of positions, writers and researchers. To be a researcher was both tough and weird. You were to assume everything was wrong. Take, “Joe walked from 10th street to 22nd street.” Every conceivable and non-obvious part of that statement would be assumed to be wrong until proven so. Was it really Joe? Did he really start walking from between 10th and 11th street? Was he not walking at all but standing on a skate board just swinging his arms? And on and on and on. The silliest things had to be proved as much as possible ten ways to the middle. It is the same with continuity direction.

Threads such as these are super important. Many said it was ‘obvious’ that parts of the fire house helicopter shots were scripted as you could see the people going in one side of the building and then out the others. It was not ‘obvious’ to me. It was only obvious after it was pointed out.

These threads will pay off.
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bump
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no dead bodies at sandy hook - only dead souls
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no dead bodies at sandy hook - only dead souls
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Re: Sandy Hook. How was Adam Lanza identified?
The nurse, Sally Cox, is apparently registered with the state for her RN license under the name Sarah Cox. That came up after we were going around and around with it on You Tube.

I've been looking into what the various parents of victims do to see if there's anything that stands out.

Lauren Rousseau - teacher who's car was all shot up. Was hired as permanent temp at Sandy Hook only a few weeks before shooting. Her mother is an editor at The News Times, her step-father is a reporter for the Hartford Courant, both area newspapers.

Noah Pozner - Dad Len is a computer geek, mother is a RN. They moved to Newtown only a few months before shooting and it appears mom and dad are separated as mom belongs to a single's site.

Mary Sherlach - school psych at SH for 18 years. Husband Bill is a financial analyst at Morgan Stanley

Rachel D'Avino - teacher's aid hired within weeks before shooting.

Ana Marquez-Green - Dad Jimmy is musician, family moved to Newtown only months before shooting.

Daniel Barden - Dad Mark is a musician, Mom Jackie is a teacher in NY.

Charlotte Bacon - Dad Joel is a scientist (BS in Chemistry) working at ASML in NY in semi-conductor field. Family moved to Newtown from Chicago a few years before shooting.

Jessica Rekos - Dad Rich works in system support at Questionmark Corp, mom Krista is a teacher in Bridgeport.

Dawn Hochsprung - hired as principal for SH in 2010. Husband George was a middle school math teacher at another school and recently retired (after shooting). One remarkable coincidence is that George happened to teach Lauren Rousseau when she attended the middle school he taught at.

Chase Kowalski - I cannot find definite employment info on parents Steve and Rebecca, although Rebecca made an interesting remark: I went to bed and he came to me, in the middle of the night and he explained to me what we would experience,” Becky said. “And then he showed me the little fish from finding Nemo, and how they have to work together to make a big fish -- to change to make something happen. And I saw the fish coming together as a whole. And then he just filled my heart with peace, and I was changed.” Thought that was odd given they just named that winter storm Nemo...

James Mattioli - Dad James and mom Cindy both work as trainers for hospital systems.

Dylan Hockley - moved to Newtown from UK 2 years ago. Dad Ian works in Finance at IBM, mom Nicole is an unemployed marketing exec. In UK, she worked for Carbon Trust.

Aveille Richman - moved to Newtown in 2011. Dad Jeremy is Senior Fellow at Boeringer Pharma doing drug research/development, mom Jennifer Hemsel is a medical writer that submits stuff to the FDA.

Allison Wyatt - Dad Ben words for Transact, doing something with software. Interesting about him is that he worked for Boeing in FL doing stuff for the Space Shuttle in a previous job. Could not find employment info on mom Cheyanne.

Caroline Previdi - Dad Jeff works in paper sales at NewPage Corp. Mom Sandy is a real estate agent in Newtown.
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Re: Sandy Hook. How was Adam Lanza identified?
We need to look more at the Sibley's. They did not lose a kid in the shooting, but Barb Sibley was the mom who showed up to drop off something her kid forgot. See her interview with K Couric at the link below.

[link to www.katiecouric.com]

Couple of things...she noticed the black car out front with all four doors open and black shirts strewn all over the ground. She then saw the window in front of school shattered, which she thought was "odd" (no duh), then she hears gunshots. Katie says "you were ushered to safety", and Barb confirms. Well who the hell ushered her anywhere if only the kids, teachers and shooters are at the building at this point? She said she was standing behind a fire truck and see kids starting to stream out, which seems incredible given cops would have to yet arrive and secure building before releasing kids from lockdown. I mean, no one who's talking has a believable story. Obviously, her role is to provide witness testimony that the window was broken out before cops got there and also to state there was an evacuation of kids, since there is no photographic or video evidence of that. But that's not the big problem with the Sibley's.

Hubby Rob gave an interview to a UK paper:

Rob Sibley, a volunteer firefighter from the Sandy Hook ladder who had an 8-year-old child at Sandy Hook recalled how his wife, Barbara had been forced to take cover behind a rubbish skip after returning to the school to drop off something her son had forgotten.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

When I first saw this article, I went to the SH Fire Dept website and saw his name there and clicked on it...it was a totally different guy than the one in the Couric video!

[link to www.sandyhookfire.com]

Seriously, look at the dude in the Couric interview and the dude on the SHFD webpage and help me understand wtf is up with that?! No there are not two Rob Sibley's on the SHFD and I know for certain the guy in the Couric video is th same guy who tells the UK paper he's a FD member because he relates the same story they gave with Couric.
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Re: Sandy Hook. How was Adam Lanza identified?
Anyone notice that Adam Lanza was identified in a matter hours BUT it will take days to identify Dorner. Anyone want to try and explain this?

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