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Apparently Obama was convicted in Federal Court on the Birther Fraud issues

 
Redcat1

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Well then we're fucked. The Congress won't do SHIT because they are all owned by TPTB.

What the FUCK can be done about this? Hell, it can be proven over and over that Obummer is a fraud, but if the damn Congress won't impeach him then what can be done?
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Thats assuming that whoever did the background checks on Obama when he was put forwad for a seat in the House was asleep at the time.

Impeachment is well nigh impossible unless there is clear evidence of an impeachable offence which was delibertaely hidden from the House. Entry to the House will go through one of the most sophisticated secret services in the world and consequently, I think these accusations are pretty much groundless.

Taitz is probably on the make for a fast buck and realises that she has a ready milking cow in a subject such as this. The best you can do is to be proactive at the next electons and make a convincing case for his replacement (oh wait, thats unnecessary as he will have run his terms in office.).

As a general point, banging on about his race, or the way he stands when he pisses does not help your case. No one but the pretty feebleminded would want to lay the future of their country in the hands of those who think like that.
 Quoting: Marxist


There is hard evidence. Phony social security number lifted off of a dead man, phony draft registration card using phony social security number = identity fraud for starters. The Hawaiian State Registrar has now confirmed that the BC that Obama had put on the White House website is a fraud, and that there is no proof that Obama was born in Hawaii.

He admitted he was from Kenya, and his father was Kenyan, when he ran for the Senate. He was known as the senator from Kenya. It's documented. He is not eligible to run for president, or be president of the US. He is not a natural born citizen, and his place of birth won't change that.

Not only did he subvert the election process twice through fraud, he is a non citizen whose last known real citizenship is Indonesian, hard proof is a foreign student loan, where he is listed as Indonesian.
He is guilty of treason, as well as crimes of identity theft, and mutiple counts of fraud.

No amount of proactive voting matters when the software was built to flip the votes to Obama. No amount of proactive voting matters when he receives 50% more votes than people who live in a region.

Your assumptions are feeble compared to the facts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29184782

bsflag
There has not been hard evidence, but more made up claims by birthers which, when one examines the claims, are shown false (but birthers repeat bs).

He never "admitted he was from Kenya." That lie is an example of one which continues to be repeated. No one shows him ever doing so. But hey...

No one has said Obama's BC is a fraud. Birthers have lied about that... sheesh.. you just repeat every false claim. No go..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33442236


Both digital creations are frauds. Fakes. Hawaii have never backed either one. Especially the COLB of 2008.

The LFBC released in 2011 isn't even high-school fake.

Regardless, Obama was removed from his mother's US passport in 1968 while the whole family was living in Indonesia. He likely has a Certificate of Loss Nationality of on file.

Indonesia law required women who married Indonesian citizens to aquire Indonesian citizenship within one year of marriage. They married in March of 1965 when Obama was only 3. So by March 1964 when Obama was only 4 she would have had to be considered an Indonesian citizen under Indonesian law.

Under international treaties (Hague Convention) children under the age of 5 transfer citizenship to match their parents and adoptive parents easier.

So in 1968 Obama had to get his own passport - was it Indonesian or US?

Remember in 2008 current nominee for CIA had an employee involved in passport-gate. No coinkydink there...


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By the way the Brits can have Obama.

He is still eligible for BOC.

He never filed form RN with the British formally renounce his status a subject of the throne.
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Don't get me wrong. I agree, the documents and SSN are very fishy. But sadly she doesn't have a case without proper experts. (according to the Judge) But also, like I said, the Judge says even if these documents are fake, it doesn't effect anything because the constitution doesn't require any proof. I wish they would of been better prepared before going to court.
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No one has said Obama's BC is a fraud. Birthers have lied about that... sheesh.. you just repeat every false claim. No go..
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You mean the PDF one that was in layers? Everybody and their grandmother knows that's a fraud.
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This case is now scheduled to be heard by the Supreme Court of the United States on Feb. 15th:







Edward Noonan, et al., Applicants



v.



Deborah Bowen, California Secretary of State

here's the thread where i found it out!
Thread: Supreme Court to Review Case on Obama’s Forged Documents
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It looks like Orly Taitz has blown it again!!!!!!

She has a default judgment for the asking, yet she is rearguing the case in her request!!!!!

What the fu** is the matter with that woman!

She should have learned from the case in Georgia that you should never give the judge an opening by rearguing the case!!

That gave the Georgia judge the sliver of daylight he needed to issue a preposterous ruling.

ASK FOR THE DEFAULT JUDGMENT AND NO MORE!!!!

DON'T F**KING REARGUE THE CASE!!!!
 Quoting: Brightwinger


There is no way that a juge was issue a judgment on the house calling for the removal of its member for a breach of house rules.

If this woman had paid attention during her lessons in constitutional law, she should would have realised that. And she would have gone about it properly.

To ask the judge to determine house rules....hahaha. Hilarious.
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It would have been dismissed already if what you say were were the case. But it wasn't dismissed!

But it doesn't matter now because Orly just handed the judge his ruby slippers. He will click his heels three times and write a bogus ruling based on her argument rather than on the default judgment!
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Of course it wass not dismissed. The judge would clearly have looked at what other options were available to this woman in seeing that her petition be heard. But can you imagine the commons during Henry's reign when they lived in abject fear of being dissolved at the whim of the king or a member of the nobility...directly or through some corrupt judge.

The legal profession in the US are probably laughing at this woman as are lawyers all across the Anglo-Saxon world. Her only saving grace is that she clearly does not understand our long march to stable government rather than government by personal preference.
 Quoting: Marxist


You don't appear to understand what a default judgment is in the US.

It means the defendant failed to appear, so the judge gives a default judgment to the plaintiff. It is assumed at that point that the plaintiff's argument have prevailed.

Then if the defendant appeals, he can only appeal the merits of the default ruling, not the merits of his defense.

What Taitz has shockingly done is to include her arguments in her demand for a default judgment. The last time the plaintiffs made this shockingly stupid decision, the judge took the merits of the case and ruled on them instead.

This gave the judge the out he needed. He wrote a pathetic set of reasons for his decision and then DENIED the default judgment!

After losing a case that was already won, it is beyond retarded to make the same mistake again unless you want to lose the case.

A default judgment wins automatically. It is almost impossible to overturn a default judgment.

Does Orly want to lose the case? Is that her real role? I don't know. The two options are that she is an unsurpassingly terrible attorney or she is a plant from the other side.

There is a video of her probably in DC being interviewed before or after her meeting with Chief Justice Roberts. In her hand is a handwritten poster board. It's unreadable. Her actions are strikingly amateurish.

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Well then we're fucked. The Congress won't do SHIT because they are all owned by TPTB.

What the FUCK can be done about this? Hell, it can be proven over and over that Obummer is a fraud, but if the damn Congress won't impeach him then what can be done?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33434033


Thats assuming that whoever did the background checks on Obama when he was put forwad for a seat in the House was asleep at the time.

Impeachment is well nigh impossible unless there is clear evidence of an impeachable offence which was delibertaely hidden from the House. Entry to the House will go through one of the most sophisticated secret services in the world and consequently, I think these accusations are pretty much groundless.

Taitz is probably on the make for a fast buck and realises that she has a ready milking cow in a subject such as this. The best you can do is to be proactive at the next electons and make a convincing case for his replacement (oh wait, thats unnecessary as he will have run his terms in office.).

As a general point, banging on about his race, or the way he stands when he pisses does not help your case. No one but the pretty feebleminded would want to lay the future of their country in the hands of those who think like that.
 Quoting: Marxist


There is hard evidence. Phony social security number lifted off of a dead man, phony draft registration card using phony social security number = identity fraud for starters. The Hawaiian State Registrar has now confirmed that the BC that Obama had put on the White House website is a fraud, and that there is no proof that Obama was born in Hawaii.

He admitted he was from Kenya, and his father was Kenyan, when he ran for the Senate. He was known as the senator from Kenya. It's documented. He is not eligible to run for president, or be president of the US. He is not a natural born citizen, and his place of birth won't change that.

Not only did he subvert the election process twice through fraud, he is a non citizen whose last known real citizenship is Indonesian, hard proof is a foreign student loan, where he is listed as Indonesian.
He is guilty of treason, as well as crimes of identity theft, and mutiple counts of fraud.

No amount of proactive voting matters when the software was built to flip the votes to Obama. No amount of proactive voting matters when he receives 50% more votes than people who live in a region.

Your assumptions are feeble compared to the facts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29184782

bsflag
There has not been hard evidence, but more made up claims by birthers which, when one examines the claims, are shown false (but birthers repeat bs).

He never "admitted he was from Kenya." That lie is an example of one which continues to be repeated. No one shows him ever doing so. But hey...

No one has said Obama's BC is a fraud. Birthers have lied about that... sheesh.. you just repeat every false claim. No go..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33442236


You are wrong in so many ways.

A Sheriff's department has examined the evidence, conducting forensic evidence on the BC. The sheriff's office has said it is a fraudulent file. NO ONE has REFUTED their forensic evidence.

Obama's Bio in a literary agent's publication says he is from Kenya. As an author I can tell you that authors write their bio''s for the agents. The ONLY reason the agent says he was born in Kenya is that Obama wrote that for them.

There has been HARD evidence. That is what forensic evidence is. Until the forensic evidence is found to be wanting, it is the best evidence we have.

The BC is a proven fraud.
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Thats assuming that whoever did the background checks on Obama when he was put forwad for a seat in the House was asleep at the time.

Impeachment is well nigh impossible unless there is clear evidence of an impeachable offence which was delibertaely hidden from the House. Entry to the House will go through one of the most sophisticated secret services in the world and consequently, I think these accusations are pretty much groundless.

Taitz is probably on the make for a fast buck and realises that she has a ready milking cow in a subject such as this. The best you can do is to be proactive at the next electons and make a convincing case for his replacement (oh wait, thats unnecessary as he will have run his terms in office.).

As a general point, banging on about his race, or the way he stands when he pisses does not help your case. No one but the pretty feebleminded would want to lay the future of their country in the hands of those who think like that.
 Quoting: Marxist


There is hard evidence. Phony social security number lifted off of a dead man, phony draft registration card using phony social security number = identity fraud for starters. The Hawaiian State Registrar has now confirmed that the BC that Obama had put on the White House website is a fraud, and that there is no proof that Obama was born in Hawaii.

He admitted he was from Kenya, and his father was Kenyan, when he ran for the Senate. He was known as the senator from Kenya. It's documented. He is not eligible to run for president, or be president of the US. He is not a natural born citizen, and his place of birth won't change that.

Not only did he subvert the election process twice through fraud, he is a non citizen whose last known real citizenship is Indonesian, hard proof is a foreign student loan, where he is listed as Indonesian.
He is guilty of treason, as well as crimes of identity theft, and mutiple counts of fraud.

No amount of proactive voting matters when the software was built to flip the votes to Obama. No amount of proactive voting matters when he receives 50% more votes than people who live in a region.

Your assumptions are feeble compared to the facts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29184782

bsflagKY
There has not been hard evidence, but more made up claims by birthers which, when one examines the claims, are shown false (but birthers repeat bs).

He never "admitted he was from Kenya." That lie is an example of one which continues to be repeated. No one shows him ever doing so. But hey...

No one has said Obama's BC is a fraud. Birthers have lied about that... sheesh.. you just repeat every false claim. No go..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33442236


You are wrong in so many ways.

A Sheriff's department has examined the evidence, conducting forensic evidence on the BC. The sheriff's office has said it is a fraudulent file. NO ONE has REFUTED their forensic evidence.

Obama's Bio in a literary agent's publication says he is from Kenya. As an author I can tell you that authors write their bio''s for the agents. The ONLY reason the agent says he was born in Kenya is that Obama wrote that for them.

There has been HARD evidence. That is what forensic evidence is. Until the forensic evidence is found to be wanting, it is the best evidence we have.

The BC is a proven fraud.
 Quoting: BrighWhatger


Oh...So now what?

Nothing.

Nada.

Zip.

Move on already.
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This should give good updates on the status...

[link to www.gpo.gov]
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From your link:

January 18, 2013

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ORDER signed by Chief Judge Morrison C. England, Jr. on 1/17/2013 ORDERING that Defendant's 27 Ex Parte Motion to Extend the Time for Responding to Plaintiffs' Subpoenas is GRANTED. Plaintiffs are ORDERED to modify their subpoenas in compliance with Fed. R. Civ. P. 45, allowing Defendants a reasonable amount of time to comply. (Zignago, K.)

Looks like they want more time so that the records are destroyed, right?
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As always, the illegal alien fraud and liar's 'agents' stall for time.

Why ? Because time IS running out UNTIL a major shock/change/attack will transpire in the very NEAR future; probably something we can not anticipate or stop. Something 'they' know is about to happen OR, they ARE in control of at this time. Examples , dollar falls of the cliff; banks cave in; asteroid hits Earth/USA OR the tail it has behind it/with it ( 14,000 miles IS close ! ).

Other possibilities are the potential for war in middle east, false flag at home, or stock market collapses.

My question would be .... WHERE are the generals and admirals that swore an oath, besides the ones that ran the big ad in the New York Times at Christmas ?

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THIS belongs HIGH UP on page one, or better pinned !
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When will the news media finally abandon the Obama bandwagon? Will they pretend to be shocked when it happens?
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