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Jesus first miracle-water into wine {part two}

 
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Jesus first miracle was turning water into wine

what would you name his vineyard?


Son of God Cellars



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Jesus first miracle was turning water into wine

what would you name his vineyard?


Son of God Cellars



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or..."Ancient of Days Cabernet"??


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I'd rather know whose wedding it really was?
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I'd rather know whose wedding it really was?
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The Bible account does not draw attention to who got married, rather to the miracle itself and what it teaches us about Jesus compassion. In that era it was a great reproach on the groom especially, if the wine ran out at a reception. Jesus, when it was called to his attention that the wine ran low, prevented this reproach from happening, and at the same time strengthened his disciples faith that he was indeed God's son, able to perform miracles.


it is of interest that the wine he produced was of high quality:


"Every other man puts out the fine wine first, and when people are intoxicated, the inferior. You have reserved the fine wine until now"-John 2:1-12
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I'd rather know whose wedding it really was?
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The Bible account does not draw attention to who got married, rather to the miracle itself and what it teaches us about Jesus compassion. In that era it was a great reproach on the groom especially, if the wine ran out at a reception. Jesus, when it was called to his attention that the wine ran low, prevented this reproach from happening, and at the same time strengthened his disciples faith that he was indeed God's son, able to perform miracles.


it is of interest that the wine he produced was of high quality:


"Every other man puts out the fine wine first, and when people are intoxicated, the inferior. You have reserved the fine wine until now"-John 2:1-12
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


.....hence...."Son of God Cellars"!
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I'd rather know whose wedding it really was?
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The Bible account does not draw attention to who got married, rather to the miracle itself and what it teaches us about Jesus compassion. In that era it was a great reproach on the groom especially, if the wine ran out at a reception. Jesus, when it was called to his attention that the wine ran low, prevented this reproach from happening, and at the same time strengthened his disciples faith that he was indeed God's son, able to perform miracles.


it is of interest that the wine he produced was of high quality:


"Every other man puts out the fine wine first, and when people are intoxicated, the inferior. You have reserved the fine wine until now"-John 2:1-12
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


.....hence...."Son of God Cellars"!
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


3 When the wine ran short the mother of Jesus said to him: “They have no wine.” 4 But Jesus said to her: “What have I to do with you, woman? My hour has not yet come.” 5 His mother said to those ministering: “Whatever he tells YOU, do.” 6 As it was, there were six stone water jars sitting there as required by the purification rules of the Jews, each able to hold two or three liquid measures. 7 Jesus said to them: “Fill the water jars with water.” And they filled them to the brim. 8 And he said to them: “Draw some out now and take it to the director of the feast.” So they took it. 9 When, now, the director of the feast tasted the water that had been turned into wine but did not know what its source was, although those ministering who had drawn out the water knew, the director of the feast called the bridegroom 10 and said to him: “Every other man puts out the fine wine first, and when people are intoxicated, the inferior. You have reserved the fine wine until now.” 11 Jesus performed this in Cana of Galilee as [the] beginning of his signs, and he made his glory manifest; and his disciples put their faith in him." John 2:3-11
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I'd rather know whose wedding it really was?
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The Bible account does not draw attention to who got married, rather to the miracle itself and what it teaches us about Jesus compassion. In that era it was a great reproach on the groom especially, if the wine ran out at a reception. Jesus, when it was called to his attention that the wine ran low, prevented this reproach from happening, and at the same time strengthened his disciples faith that he was indeed God's son, able to perform miracles.


it is of interest that the wine he produced was of high quality:


"Every other man puts out the fine wine first, and when people are intoxicated, the inferior. You have reserved the fine wine until now"-John 2:1-12
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


.....hence...."Son of God Cellars"!
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


3 When the wine ran short the mother of Jesus said to him: “They have no wine.” 4 But Jesus said to her: “What have I to do with you, woman? My hour has not yet come.” 5 His mother said to those ministering: “Whatever he tells YOU, do.” 6 As it was, there were six stone water jars sitting there as required by the purification rules of the Jews, each able to hold two or three liquid measures. 7 Jesus said to them: “Fill the water jars with water.” And they filled them to the brim. 8 And he said to them: “Draw some out now and take it to the director of the feast.” So they took it. 9 When, now, the director of the feast tasted the water that had been turned into wine but did not know what its source was, although those ministering who had drawn out the water knew, the director of the feast called the bridegroom 10 and said to him: “Every other man puts out the fine wine first, and when people are intoxicated, the inferior. You have reserved the fine wine until now.” 11 Jesus performed this in Cana of Galilee as [the] beginning of his signs, and he made his glory manifest; and his disciples put their faith in him." John 2:3-11
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I'd rather know whose wedding it really was?
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The Bible account does not draw attention to who got married, rather to the miracle itself and what it teaches us about Jesus compassion. In that era it was a great reproach on the groom especially, if the wine ran out at a reception. Jesus, when it was called to his attention that the wine ran low, prevented this reproach from happening, and at the same time strengthened his disciples faith that he was indeed God's son, able to perform miracles.


it is of interest that the wine he produced was of high quality:


"Every other man puts out the fine wine first, and when people are intoxicated, the inferior. You have reserved the fine wine until now"-John 2:1-12
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


.....hence...."Son of God Cellars"!
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


3 When the wine ran short the mother of Jesus said to him: “They have no wine.” 4 But Jesus said to her: “What have I to do with you, woman? My hour has not yet come.” 5 His mother said to those ministering: “Whatever he tells YOU, do.” 6 As it was, there were six stone water jars sitting there as required by the purification rules of the Jews, each able to hold two or three liquid measures. 7 Jesus said to them: “Fill the water jars with water.” And they filled them to the brim. 8 And he said to them: “Draw some out now and take it to the director of the feast.” So they took it. 9 When, now, the director of the feast tasted the water that had been turned into wine but did not know what its source was, although those ministering who had drawn out the water knew, the director of the feast called the bridegroom 10 and said to him: “Every other man puts out the fine wine first, and when people are intoxicated, the inferior. You have reserved the fine wine until now.” 11 Jesus performed this in Cana of Galilee as [the] beginning of his signs, and he made his glory manifest; and his disciples put their faith in him." John 2:3-11
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The most interesting part of this passage to me is that after identifying the problem to Jesus, Mary didn't say another word to Him. She didn't tell Him what to do or how to do it or when to do it. She was, it would appear, quite content over whatever outcome there would be.

Quite different than what we do at times.

(And since I seriously doubt that Jesus ran around the house turning water into wine for the fun of it, I suspect Mary was just as astonished at the miracle as everyone else.)
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It's a metaphor, usurping the power of the Baptizer's baptism.hiding
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The most interesting part of this passage to me is that after identifying the problem to Jesus, Mary didn't say another word to Him. She didn't tell Him what to do or how to do it or when to do it. She was, it would appear, quite content over whatever outcome there would be.

Quite different than what we do at times.

(And since I seriously doubt that Jesus ran around the house turning water into wine for the fun of it, I suspect Mary was just as astonished at the miracle as everyone else.)
 Quoting: Life and Love


the account teaches us much about Jesus, and yet, how profound that Jesus showed that kind of balance, he could have said "it is time for grape juice and water people- you have had too much to drink"


we will name the vineyard Balanced Barrel
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CelestialM,

Love your thread. Take this subject further. We know
God can do anything. He can change bread into His body
and 'wine' into His blood.

It's supernatural.
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CelestialM,

Love your thread. Take this subject further. We know
God can do anything. He can change bread into His body
and 'wine' into His blood.

It's supernatural.
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What is "supernatural" to one

who has not seen the full potential

of what is "natural"?
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The most interesting part of this passage to me is that after identifying the problem to Jesus, Mary didn't say another word to Him. She didn't tell Him what to do or how to do it or when to do it. She was, it would appear, quite content over whatever outcome there would be.

Quite different than what we do at times.

(And since I seriously doubt that Jesus ran around the house turning water into wine for the fun of it, I suspect Mary was just as astonished at the miracle as everyone else.)
 Quoting: Life and Love


the account teaches us much about Jesus, and yet, how profound that Jesus showed that kind of balance, he could have said "it is time for grape juice and water people- you have had too much to drink"


we will name the vineyard Balanced Barrel
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


This is one of my favorite passages. Some real interesting details, if you look into it.


One, just the fact they ran out of wine- either the father of the bride really underestimated the amount he needed, or a bunch of people showed up that weren't accounted for. Perhaps they invited Jesus and his mom, but not the apostles? Maybe the first case of wedding crashing in recorded history. lol.

Anyway...couple others...someone either told Mary or she saw it herself.. and she goes to Jesus not asking for more wine.. just telling the Lord the problem.

Jesus saying 'My hour has not come' is sort of telling Mary do you realize what you're asking, mother? Once I do 'this' my hour starts... ending with his crucifixtion.

We don't know what Mary knew or not, but we do know all the miracles that happened in her life she kept 'in her heart'. She knew Jesus had a divine purpose- so in essence when she says 'whatsoever he says to you, then do it' is perhaps telling subtly telling Jesus - perhaps it's time to leave my basement and begin 'your hour'. Incidentally, these are the last words Mary speaks in scripture- do what Jesus tells you.

Now, what Jesus does next is also interesting. Not one or two with water vessles- which would have been a miracle anyways-- but SIX vessles he asks to have filled with water- and turns into wine.

Perhaps this is the one and only miracle he does for his benefit as well. Knowing there will be no turning back now-- might as well enjoy the wedding celebration.
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Lesson to learn: drinking is good.

Drink! Drink! Drink!
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The most interesting part of this passage to me is that after identifying the problem to Jesus, Mary didn't say another word to Him. She didn't tell Him what to do or how to do it or when to do it. She was, it would appear, quite content over whatever outcome there would be.

Quite different than what we do at times.

(And since I seriously doubt that Jesus ran around the house turning water into wine for the fun of it, I suspect Mary was just as astonished at the miracle as everyone else.)
 Quoting: Life and Love


the account teaches us much about Jesus, and yet, how profound that Jesus showed that kind of balance, he could have said "it is time for grape juice and water people- you have had too much to drink"


we will name the vineyard Balanced Barrel
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


This is one of my favorite passages. Some real interesting details, if you look into it.


One, just the fact they ran out of wine- either the father of the bride really underestimated the amount he needed, or a bunch of people showed up that weren't accounted for. Perhaps they invited Jesus and his mom, but not the apostles? Maybe the first case of wedding crashing in recorded history. lol.

Anyway...couple others...someone either told Mary or she saw it herself.. and she goes to Jesus not asking for more wine.. just telling the Lord the problem.

Jesus saying 'My hour has not come' is sort of telling Mary do you realize what you're asking, mother? Once I do 'this' my hour starts... ending with his crucifixtion.

We don't know what Mary knew or not, but we do know all the miracles that happened in her life she kept 'in her heart'. She knew Jesus had a divine purpose- so in essence when she says 'whatsoever he says to you, then do it' is perhaps telling subtly telling Jesus - perhaps it's time to leave my basement and begin 'your hour'. Incidentally, these are the last words Mary speaks in scripture- do what Jesus tells you.

Now, what Jesus does next is also interesting. Not one or two with water vessles- which would have been a miracle anyways-- but SIX vessles he asks to have filled with water- and turns into wine.

Perhaps this is the one and only miracle he does for his benefit as well. Knowing there will be no turning back now-- might as well enjoy the wedding celebration.
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that was some insightful observations about that account.

When Jesus mother said; "they have no wine", and Jesus replied; "what have I to do with you with you?"...some have viewed him as being disrespectful to Mary, which, of course was not the case. The point he was making was, as God's appointed King, he was not to be directed in his activity by family or friends. So Mary wisely left the matter in Jesus hands.


None the less, this occasion provided an opportunity for Jesus to prevent the reproach that would rest on the Groom if the wine ran out, displaying his quality of compassion.

it also served to strengthen his newly chosen disciples faith. {they had been invited to the wedding as well}


it also showed the generosity of Jesus by filling, not one or two, but SIX stone water jars with wine! and the fact that it was of the highest quality...well......


CREME DE LA KING VINEYARDS!!!!!



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CelestialM,

Love your thread. Take this subject further. We know
God can do anything. He can change bread into His body
and 'wine' into His blood.

It's supernatural.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20541213


What is "supernatural" to one

who has not seen the full potential

of what is "natural"?
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Hi, no offense, your comments make no sense. Jesus changed
water into wine at Cana. He was preparing His followers to
accept as God He is able to change mere bread and wine into
His body and blood. This is "supernatural"

The "natural" involved is a person, the priest's actions, his words of consecration.

After the priest's words of consecration, the bread and
wine become the risen body, blood, soul and divinity of
Jesus Christ.

You don't see a change in the consecrated host, so you have to believe by faith, how this pleases God.
hf

God bless you,
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Not "new wine", but "old wine"


Think about that with an Earth appearing "old"
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Not "new wine", but "old wine"


Think about that with an Earth appearing "old"
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Imagine the wine during the Thousand Year Reign of Christ


"The Thousand Year Vine of Christ Vineyards"
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According to the bible, they weren't "Jesus's miracles" per say, but miracles anyone could learn to do. Remember the scene where what's his name tries to walk on water, and for a few steps manages it, but then he gets dunked and ol' Jesus laughs at him saying he didn't have enough "faith" to maintain the trick.. In other words "inner strength and focus".
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According to the bible, they weren't "Jesus's miracles" per say, but miracles anyone could learn to do. Remember the scene where what's his name tries to walk on water, and for a few steps manages it, but then he gets dunked and ol' Jesus laughs at him saying he didn't have enough "faith" to maintain the trick.. In other words "inner strength and focus".
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Jesus miracles were an evidence of his being sent by God, and able to perform miracles only with God's power. The miracles were performed exclusively by him while he walked the earth. ...

Mark 1:21-34

Luke 4:31-41

Matthew 8:14-17
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"Christians drink to remember, the world drinks to forget."
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Jesus miracles were an evidence of his being sent by God, and able to perform miracles only with God's power. The miracles were performed exclusively by him while he walked the earth. ...

Mark 1:21-34

Luke 4:31-41

Matthew 8:14-17
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I direct your attention to Matthew 13:10-15 for the truth about Jesus's teachings, which are not what most of you christians seem to think heh
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Jesus miracles were an evidence of his being sent by God, and able to perform miracles only with God's power. The miracles were performed exclusively by him while he walked the earth. ...

Mark 1:21-34

Luke 4:31-41

Matthew 8:14-17
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I direct your attention to Matthew 13:10-15 for the truth about Jesus's teachings, which are not what most of you christians seem to think heh
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This is a well known scripture, there for all to see... so I don't understand your comment.
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Jesus miracles were an evidence of his being sent by God, and able to perform miracles only with God's power. The miracles were performed exclusively by him while he walked the earth. ...

Mark 1:21-34

Luke 4:31-41

Matthew 8:14-17
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I direct your attention to Matthew 13:10-15 for the truth about Jesus's teachings, which are not what most of you christians seem to think heh
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the scripture you refer to speaks about illustrations that Jesus used to teach people. Only those with the right heart condition sought out the meaning of his illustrations, others followed him simply for the miracles he performed.


but now back to the vineyard...hmmmm

Vineyards Illustrated?
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Lesson to learn: drinking is good.

Drink! Drink! Drink!
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Jesus first miracle was turning water into wine

what would you name his vineyard?


Son of God Cellars



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......or..."Lord of the Harvest"
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Jesus first miracle was Genesis 1:1, come on.
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Jesus first miracle was Genesis 1:1, come on.
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nice observation, yes the creation of heaven and earth is indeed a miracle! Jesus, as Gods
firstborn creation {Colossians 1:15, 16}....assisted God in the creation of all things


the miracles being referred to here are Jesus miracles while on earth


hence.....water into wine!

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