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National Review says Hitler made sense?!!!? WTF?!!?

 
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Nazism may have been an ideology to which the United States was — and to which the president is — implacably opposed, but it is hardly “senseless.” By the early 1930s, the Nazi party had hundreds of thousands of devoted members and repeatedly attracted a third of the votes in German elections; its political leaders campaigned on a platform comprising 25 non-senseless points, including the “unification of all Germans,” a demand for “land and territory for the sustenance of our people,” and an assertion that “no Jew can be a member of the race.” Suffice it to say, many sensible Germans were persuaded.

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Right Wing Fascism reveals itself.
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You are the ultimate moran. Nazi Party is a left wing party...
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


1) No (how many times no) -- the Nazi's were right -wing and that is a historical fact (despite so many morons on the net making up bs)

2) NR is right-wing DEFENDING the Nazis. See 1.

3) So why don't you deal with 2?
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Hitler was the leader of the National Socialist Party (NSDAP)
Socialists are left thinking and not right thinking, clearly you are watching too much zombievision.
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equivocation going on... typical.
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Re: National Review says Hitler made sense?!!!? WTF?!!?
If you wanted the best for your country and its people why wouldn't you have Nazism ?

No private companies making profits from things essential to the people; water, energy, healthcare, education etc etc
That's the socialist part.

controlled immigration, all imports taxed so they don't undercut home built goods, and the country men always put first....That's the nationalism.
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BINGO
clappa

And Hitler made Germany into the greatest nation ever to exist until the jews destroyed it with their propaganda and turned the American people against Hitler. Read some real history, most Americans thought Hitler was a great man until the jewish rags slandered him
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I would love to read the real history.
Until he died, my dad said the whole thing was not what we were taught. He was born in 1932 so I always felt that maybe since he was around at the time, he was probably right.

Can you suggest a book (or 2 or 3) or a site where I can read up on this?
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Moses was right!

AEIOU = holy roman empire motto


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Re: National Review says Hitler made sense?!!!? WTF?!!?
Nazism may have been an ideology to which the United States was — and to which the president is — implacably opposed, but it is hardly “senseless.” By the early 1930s, the Nazi party had hundreds of thousands of devoted members and repeatedly attracted a third of the votes in German elections; its political leaders campaigned on a platform comprising 25 non-senseless points, including the “unification of all Germans,” a demand for “land and territory for the sustenance of our people,” and an assertion that “no Jew can be a member of the race.” Suffice it to say, many sensible Germans were persuaded.

[link to www.nationalreview.com]

Right Wing Fascism reveals itself.
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Adopting the exact same policy is precisely what we need to save our nation, do you deny that? IDIOT

HIS STORY history=jewstory

Grow a brain and STFU, Hitler was fighting communism and we should have fought with him. Nearly everyone at the time of the war with brain that wasn't jewish was wondering WTF we were doing
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"Those who perished as a result of Nazi terror, millions of individual men and women and children whose lives were taken so senselessly, must never be forgotten."

-- Ronald Reagan

Remarks at a White House Meeting With Jewish Leaders, February 2, 1983

[link to www.reagan.utexas.edu]
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The economics of fascism are collectivist, socialist and redistributionist – supremely hostile to free-market capitalism and wealth inequalities. Indeed, fascism is closely related to communism in both theory and practice. The chief difference between the two is that fascism is rooted in nationalism and seeks to create a socialist utopia within the confines of a particular country's borders; thus the Nazis, for instance, embraced “National Socialism.” Communism, by contrast, seeks to transcend national boundaries and promote a worldwide proletariat revolution, where the foot soldiers are bound together not by a common nationality but by their membership in the same economic class. The communist position was articulated in Karl Marx's famous exhortation in the Communist Manifesto: “Workers of the world, unite!”

Apart from this distinction, communism and fascism are kindred spirits of anti-capitalist totalitarianism. Author Jonah Goldberg characterizes them as “closely related, historical competitors for the same constituents, seeking to dominate and control the same social space.” As the fascist Mussolini put it, in a 1921 speech:

“Between us and the communists there are no political affinities but there are intellectual ones. Like you [communists], we consider necessary a centralized unitary state which imposes iron discipline and all persons, with this difference, that you reached this conclusion by way of the concept of class, and we by the way of the concept of nation.”

In his book Communism: A History, Richard Pipes has identified a number of additional areas where German and Italian fascism bore striking similarities to Soviet communism:

-Both the fascists and communists had a common enemy, which was liberal democracy with its reverence for civil rights, property, and peace.
-Both the fascists and communists were totalitarian regimes that regarded human beings as expendable raw material for the construction of a new social order.
-Both the fascists and communists tried to obliterate all distinctions between the state and the citizenry by penetrating and controlling every aspect of organized life.
-Both the fascists and communists enjoyed a political monopoly and governed with the assistance of the security police, which were endowed with unrestricted powers.
-Both the fascists and communists viewed pacifism with contempt.

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Re: National Review says Hitler made sense?!!!? WTF?!!?
Nazism may have been an ideology to which the United States was — and to which the president is — implacably opposed, but it is hardly “senseless.” By the early 1930s, the Nazi party had hundreds of thousands of devoted members and repeatedly attracted a third of the votes in German elections; its political leaders campaigned on a platform comprising 25 non-senseless points, including the “unification of all Germans,” a demand for “land and territory for the sustenance of our people,” and an assertion that “no Jew can be a member of the race.” Suffice it to say, many sensible Germans were persuaded.

[link to www.nationalreview.com]

Right Wing Fascism reveals itself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33442236


Adopting the exact same policy is precisely what we need to save our nation, do you deny that? IDIOT

HIS STORY history=jewstory

Grow a brain and STFU, Hitler was fighting communism and we should have fought with him. Nearly everyone at the time of the war with brain that wasn't jewish was wondering WTF we were doing
 Quoting: Anonymous Astophysicist 1394099


"Those who perished as a result of Nazi terror, millions of individual men and women and children whose lives were taken so senselessly, must never be forgotten."

-- Ronald Reagan

Remarks at a White House Meeting With Jewish Leaders, February 2, 1983

[link to www.reagan.utexas.edu]
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Indeed
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Re: National Review says Hitler made sense?!!!? WTF?!!?
The economics of fascism are collectivist, socialist and redistributionist – supremely hostile to free-market capitalism and wealth inequalities. Indeed, fascism is closely related to communism in both theory and practice. The chief difference between the two is that fascism is rooted in nationalism and seeks to create a socialist utopia within the confines of a particular country's borders; thus the Nazis, for instance, embraced “National Socialism.” Communism, by contrast, seeks to transcend national boundaries and promote a worldwide proletariat revolution, where the foot soldiers are bound together not by a common nationality but by their membership in the same economic class. The communist position was articulated in Karl Marx's famous exhortation in the Communist Manifesto: “Workers of the world, unite!”

Apart from this distinction, communism and fascism are kindred spirits of anti-capitalist totalitarianism. Author Jonah Goldberg characterizes them as “closely related, historical competitors for the same constituents, seeking to dominate and control the same social space.” As the fascist Mussolini put it, in a 1921 speech:

“Between us and the communists there are no political affinities but there are intellectual ones. Like you [communists], we consider necessary a centralized unitary state which imposes iron discipline and all persons, with this difference, that you reached this conclusion by way of the concept of class, and we by the way of the concept of nation.”

In his book Communism: A History, Richard Pipes has identified a number of additional areas where German and Italian fascism bore striking similarities to Soviet communism:

-Both the fascists and communists had a common enemy, which was liberal democracy with its reverence for civil rights, property, and peace.
-Both the fascists and communists were totalitarian regimes that regarded human beings as expendable raw material for the construction of a new social order.
-Both the fascists and communists tried to obliterate all distinctions between the state and the citizenry by penetrating and controlling every aspect of organized life.
-Both the fascists and communists enjoyed a political monopoly and governed with the assistance of the security police, which were endowed with unrestricted powers.
-Both the fascists and communists viewed pacifism with contempt.

[link to www.discoverthenetworks.org]
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Pipes is a well known fraud. Next.
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Re: National Review says Hitler made sense?!!!? WTF?!!?
If you wanted the best for your country and its people why wouldn't you have Nazism ?

No private companies making profits from things essential to the people; water, energy, healthcare, education etc etc
That's the socialist part.

controlled immigration, all imports taxed so they don't undercut home built goods, and the country men always put first....That's the nationalism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31928649


BINGO
clappa

And Hitler made Germany into the greatest nation ever to exist until the jews destroyed it with their propaganda and turned the American people against Hitler. Read some real history, most Americans thought Hitler was a great man until the jewish rags slandered him
 Quoting: Anonymous Astophysicist 1394099


I would love to read the real history.
Until he died, my dad said the whole thing was not what we were taught. He was born in 1932 so I always felt that maybe since he was around at the time, he was probably right.

Can you suggest a book (or 2 or 3) or a site where I can read up on this?
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nowhere in the article does it say hitler made sense....
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Re: National Review says Hitler made sense?!!!? WTF?!!?
If you wanted the best for your country and its people why wouldn't you have Nazism ?

No private companies making profits from things essential to the people; water, energy, healthcare, education etc etc
That's the socialist part.

controlled immigration, all imports taxed so they don't undercut home built goods, and the country men always put first....That's the nationalism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31928649


BINGO
clappa

And Hitler made Germany into the greatest nation ever to exist until the jews destroyed it with their propaganda and turned the American people against Hitler. Read some real history, most Americans thought Hitler was a great man until the jewish rags slandered him
 Quoting: Anonymous Astophysicist 1394099


bump
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Hitler never wavered from his personal opinion that the survival of Germany as a great power
depended upon an alliance with the British Empire. In 1936 he instituted proceedings to try to
bring about this alliance. He arranged for unofficial conversations to take place between
German and British diplomats, and after the meetings failed to produce the alliance he so greatly
desired, he said: “No sacrifice would have been too great in order to gain England’s alliance. It
would have meant renunciation of our colonies; and importance as a sea power; and refraining
from interference with British industry by competition.”[2] He considered all these German
concessions would have been worthwhile if only he had been able to bring about the German-
British alliance. His failure to bring about the British Alliance caused him to weaken in his
opposition to the totalitarian ideology as advocated by the extreme Nazi War Lords. The failure
of the conference convinced Hitler that no moderate policy would ever break the control the
international bankers had over British Foreign policy. He reluctantly began to concede that Karl
Ritter had been right when he said: “The power the Jewish financiers hold over Communism
must be destroyed, as well as of those who are members of the world revolutionary movement,
before peace and economic freedom can be restored to the world.”

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Nazism may have been an ideology to which the United States was — and to which the president is — implacably opposed, but it is hardly “senseless.” By the early 1930s, the Nazi party had hundreds of thousands of devoted members and repeatedly attracted a third of the votes in German elections; its political leaders campaigned on a platform comprising 25 non-senseless points, including the “unification of all Germans,” a demand for “land and territory for the sustenance of our people,” and an assertion that “no Jew can be a member of the race.” Suffice it to say, many sensible Germans were persuaded.

[link to www.nationalreview.com]

Right Wing Fascism reveals itself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33442236


You are the ultimate moran. Nazi Party is a left wing party...
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


1) No (how many times no) -- the Nazi's were right -wing and that is a historical fact (despite so many morons on the net making up bs)

2) NR is right-wing DEFENDING the Nazis. See 1.

3) So why don't you deal with 2?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33442236


Left and right are not remotely the same almost reversed in Europe compared to the US.

American parties do not fit well with in the same named European parties, Americas conservative vs. liberal is very very different then views of the same terms in Europe.


Read through the entire McCarthey hearings…



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The US is the 4th Reich.
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