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why we need 30 round clips
why we need 30 round clips;

not that the gun grabbers will 'get it',
but they keep saying nobody can answer this, so;

1. the bad guys have them, so we should too, so we will not be out-gunned.

2. many gunfights last only a few seconds, then it is all over, all bullets expended, with one or both dead, or bad guy flees to avoid death, in way less than a minute.
there is LITERALLY NO TIME to reload, what you have in the gun is all you get to use.

3. reloading will get you killed.
while reloading, you are vulnerable.
they know this, and they will listen for it.
it is the sound of no bullets being fired.
they will try to kill you at that time.
putting in a fully loaded SPARE clip is fast, LOADING an empty clip takes WAY too much time.
better to have what you need, in the clip and ready to go, when you need it.
this is why cops, army, secret service, dea, customs, cia, fbi, etc, all carry these 'high capacity clips'.

4. shooting at someone, helps to prevent them from acurately aiming at you, and killing you.

5. there may be multiple intruders.

6. intruders may have bullet proof vests.

7. you might shoot the intruder, but hit him in a non vital spot, therefore, he is still able to shoot you.

8. you might not be the best shot in the world, so it takes you more bullets to get the job done.

9. many low level criminals do not carry lots of extra ammo, as they might need to ditch the gun in a hurry, before the crime, and they plan to ditch it after the crime, anyway, to get rid of the evidence.
having the edge on the number of bullets, greatly increases your chances of living.

10. ten bullets, 'a reasonable first step'.
piers morgan said many times that limiting clip size to 10 rounds was 'a reasonable first step';
so;

what is the 'second step' ????
revolvers only, only 6 shots ??

what is the 'third step' ????
bolt action, fire one shot, then reload one bullet ??

11. bad guys can use doorways, corners, etc., for cover, making them hard to hit.

12. when seconds count, the cops are MINUTES away.

13. if it is not a short gunfight,
it will be a long one,
and that is where it is really is important to not run out of bullets.

.
WHEN YOU HAVE A BABY;
you have to 'baby proof' your house, locking all the dangerous things away, so the baby will be safe, as it moves around freely.

THAT IS WHAT 'GUN CONTROL' IS; only for PSYCHOS.

they want to make the entire country safe for the FUCKING PSYCHOS to WALK FREELY AMONG US.

INSTEAD OF LOCKING UP THE PSYCHOS,

WE HAVE 'FREE RANGE' PSYCHOS.

the doctor just gives them a prescription for a bottle of pills,
and sends them on their way,
with no guarantee they will take the pills,
or that the pill is even the RIGHT pill for what ails him.
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Re: why we need 30 round clips
besides that, reloading every ten rounds sucks!

Not to mention , SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!
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Re: why we need 30 round clips
I've never seen, nor heard of, a "30 round clip".

Magazine?

Yes

Does it matter what it's called?

Yes, if you are trying to help the cause.
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02/01/2013 09:42 AM
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Re: why we need 30 round clips
I've never seen, nor heard of, a "30 round clip".

Magazine?

Yes

Does it matter what it's called?

Yes, if you are trying to help the cause.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306067


number 1 even trained police only hit their target 2 of every 9 shots. you might not be even that good.
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Re: why we need 30 round clips
Because I would rather be safe than sorry...
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Re: why we need 30 round clips
why we need 30 round clips;

not that the gun grabbers will 'get it',
but they keep saying nobody can answer this, so;

1. the bad guys have them, so we should too, so we will not be out-gunned.

2. many gunfights last only a few seconds, then it is all over, all bullets expended, with one or both dead, or bad guy flees to avoid death, in way less than a minute.
there is LITERALLY NO TIME to reload, what you have in the gun is all you get to use.

3. reloading will get you killed.
while reloading, you are vulnerable.
they know this, and they will listen for it.
it is the sound of no bullets being fired.
they will try to kill you at that time.
putting in a fully loaded SPARE clip is fast, LOADING an empty clip takes WAY too much time.
better to have what you need, in the clip and ready to go, when you need it.
this is why cops, army, secret service, dea, customs, cia, fbi, etc, all carry these 'high capacity clips'.

4. shooting at someone, helps to prevent them from acurately aiming at you, and killing you.

5. there may be multiple intruders.

6. intruders may have bullet proof vests.

7. you might shoot the intruder, but hit him in a non vital spot, therefore, he is still able to shoot you.

8. you might not be the best shot in the world, so it takes you more bullets to get the job done.

9. many low level criminals do not carry lots of extra ammo, as they might need to ditch the gun in a hurry, before the crime, and they plan to ditch it after the crime, anyway, to get rid of the evidence.
having the edge on the number of bullets, greatly increases your chances of living.

10. ten bullets, 'a reasonable first step'.
piers morgan said many times that limiting clip size to 10 rounds was 'a reasonable first step';
so;

what is the 'second step' ????
revolvers only, only 6 shots ??

what is the 'third step' ????
bolt action, fire one shot, then reload one bullet ??

11. bad guys can use doorways, corners, etc., for cover, making them hard to hit.

12. when seconds count, the cops are MINUTES away.

13. if it is not a short gunfight,
it will be a long one,
and that is where it is really is important to not run out of bullets.

.
WHEN YOU HAVE A BABY;
you have to 'baby proof' your house, locking all the dangerous things away, so the baby will be safe, as it moves around freely.

THAT IS WHAT 'GUN CONTROL' IS; only for PSYCHOS.

they want to make the entire country safe for the FUCKING PSYCHOS to WALK FREELY AMONG US.

INSTEAD OF LOCKING UP THE PSYCHOS,

WE HAVE 'FREE RANGE' PSYCHOS.

the doctor just gives them a prescription for a bottle of pills,
and sends them on their way,
with no guarantee they will take the pills,
or that the pill is even the RIGHT pill for what ails him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33443012

yeah but you are forgetting most people are really darn stupid and only learn the hard way, through experience. so until they experience why this may be necessary, no amount of words or information or facts will reach them
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Re: why we need 30 round clips
I've never seen, nor heard of, a "30 round clip".

Magazine?

Yes

Does it matter what it's called?

Yes, if you are trying to help the cause.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306067


^^ This
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Not to be confused with Magazine (firearms).

A clip is a device that is used to store multiple rounds of ammunition together as a unit, ready for insertion into the magazine or cylinder of a firearm. This speeds up the process of loading and reloading the firearm as several rounds can be loaded at once, rather than one round being loaded at a time. Several different types of clips exist, most of which are made of inexpensive metal stampings that are designed to be disposable, though they are often re-used.
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Re: why we need 30 round clips
I've never seen, nor heard of, a "30 round clip".

Magazine?

Yes

Does it matter what it's called?

Yes, if you are trying to help the cause.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306067


Was going to say the same thing +10
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Re: why we need 30 round clips
I have some 30 rd magazines...
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Re: why we need 30 round clips
... my clips only hold 8 rounds for my M1 Garand. BAN!
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Re: why we need 30 round clips
low information
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Re: why we need 30 round clips
With 3 D printing, criminals can have all the 30 round magazines that they want. It's only law abiding people that they want to disarm,

Be nice to the OP, it's easy to fall in the trap of using the language that the MSM pushes.

It isn't a clip, it's a magazine.

That's not a fetus, it's an unborn person.
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02/01/2013 09:58 AM
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Re: why we need 30 round clips
I'm not a supporter of state confiscation but from a european point of view what is scary is your need of those weapon.

the problem is not the weapon, the problem is the socio-economic elements that make an american needing those kind of weapons.
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Re: why we need 30 round clips
I've never seen, nor heard of, a "30 round clip".

Magazine?

Yes

Does it matter what it's called?

Yes, if you are trying to help the cause.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306067


Was going to say the same thing +10
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7242566


I am a long time gun owner and gun enthusiast, I generally only use the term magazine when referring to a magazine.

However I try not to worry about the misused terminology. In terms of the colloquial vernacular of the american, 'clip' is a widely acceptable word when referring to any magazine or device holding ammunition.

'I know what I know, and who am I to blow against the wind.'
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Re: why we need 30 round clips
Op you do know they are not going to do anything about guns right?
You do know that there is no blood test or other standard method for figuring out if a person is psycho right?
You know that only a "professional" can decide if you are a psycho right?
Why outlaw guns when you can label everybody psychos and make it illegal for them to own guns?
You get more control by incorporating changes and strict mandates on mental health than you do with gun control.
A nice method of control is to turn popular opinion against a group, pass legislation against that group then make everyone part of that group.
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Re: why we need 30 round clips
Guns don't kill people, people kill people. But yeah, 762mm striper clips work well with penetrator cores.
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You do know that there is no blood test or other standard method for figuring out if a person is psycho right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225


there is a part of the brain that is necessary to feel empathy / sympathy for other people.

psychos DO NOT HAVE THIS PART.
THEY ARE BRAIN DAMMAGED.
a m.r.i. or cat scan is all that is needed to make this determination.

in all these mass killings, there were teachers, classmates, and even parents who knew there was 'something odd' about the shooters.

there is no good option currently available for a parent who fears his / her psychopathic child.

the police will do nothing untill a crime is commited.
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Re: why we need 30 round clips
why we need 30 round clips;

not that the gun grabbers will 'get it',
but they keep saying nobody can answer this, so;

1. the bad guys have them, so we should too, so we will not be out-gunned.

2. many gunfights last only a few seconds, then it is all over, all bullets expended, with one or both dead, or bad guy flees to avoid death, in way less than a minute.
there is LITERALLY NO TIME to reload, what you have in the gun is all you get to use.

3. reloading will get you killed.
while reloading, you are vulnerable.
they know this, and they will listen for it.
it is the sound of no bullets being fired.
they will try to kill you at that time.
putting in a fully loaded SPARE clip is fast, LOADING an empty clip takes WAY too much time.
better to have what you need, in the clip and ready to go, when you need it.
this is why cops, army, secret service, dea, customs, cia, fbi, etc, all carry these 'high capacity clips'.

4. shooting at someone, helps to prevent them from acurately aiming at you, and killing you.

5. there may be multiple intruders.

6. intruders may have bullet proof vests.

7. you might shoot the intruder, but hit him in a non vital spot, therefore, he is still able to shoot you.

8. you might not be the best shot in the world, so it takes you more bullets to get the job done.

9. many low level criminals do not carry lots of extra ammo, as they might need to ditch the gun in a hurry, before the crime, and they plan to ditch it after the crime, anyway, to get rid of the evidence.
having the edge on the number of bullets, greatly increases your chances of living.

10. ten bullets, 'a reasonable first step'.
piers morgan said many times that limiting clip size to 10 rounds was 'a reasonable first step';
so;

what is the 'second step' ????
revolvers only, only 6 shots ??

what is the 'third step' ????
bolt action, fire one shot, then reload one bullet ??

11. bad guys can use doorways, corners, etc., for cover, making them hard to hit.

12. when seconds count, the cops are MINUTES away.

13. if it is not a short gunfight,
it will be a long one,
and that is where it is really is important to not run out of bullets.

.
WHEN YOU HAVE A BABY;
you have to 'baby proof' your house, locking all the dangerous things away, so the baby will be safe, as it moves around freely.

THAT IS WHAT 'GUN CONTROL' IS; only for PSYCHOS.

they want to make the entire country safe for the FUCKING PSYCHOS to WALK FREELY AMONG US.

INSTEAD OF LOCKING UP THE PSYCHOS,

WE HAVE 'FREE RANGE' PSYCHOS.

the doctor just gives them a prescription for a bottle of pills,
and sends them on their way,
with no guarantee they will take the pills,
or that the pill is even the RIGHT pill for what ails him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33443012


...what's a clip.
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Re: why we need 30 round clips
What about the 45 round mags?
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Re: why we need 30 round clips
1. Because the government has them.

/thread
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when the founding fathers wrote the bill of rights,

the 'army' guns were EXACTLY the same as the 'civilian' guns.

and muskets were the 'terror weapon' of the time.
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Asking why someone "needs" a 30 round mag is like asking why they "need" a car that goes 150mph or why they "need" a 60" television. Its not up to someone else to determine my "need".
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Re: why we need 30 round clips
it won't matter shortly
just how big your clip is

when you can't buy any ammo
to go in it
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Re: why we need 30 round clips
1. Because the government has them.

/thread
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^^^^^THIS^^^^^
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Re: why we need 30 round clips
WHY? Because a beta mag will not fit in my hip pocket.
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Re: why we need 30 round clips
With 3 D printing, criminals can have all the 30 round magazines that they want. It's only law abiding people that they want to disarm,

Be nice to the OP, it's easy to fall in the trap of using the language that the MSM pushes.

It isn't a clip, it's a magazine.

That's not a fetus, it's an unborn person.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower



Why all the hate and fear towards 3D printing? All of these articles recently making folks believe anyone can print a firearm at their desk. Not that simple. It's still not a very viable technology, despite the videos that attempt to prove otherwise. Stop perpetuating these unfounded fears.

Hell, anyone with some ingenuity and tin snips can fashion crude magazines.

Years ago I built a CNC mill (manual retrofit) for less than quality 3D printers go for today. I've used it to build 1911 frames and a functioning ak receiver, legally. Guns were manufactured long before the advent of 3D printing tech, and criminals know this.

Source: mechanical engineer who has actually used this technology.
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Re: why we need 30 round clips
All women need to get a Clip for their Taurus...
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Re: why we need 30 round clips
I've never seen, nor heard of, a "30 round clip".

Magazine?

Yes

Does it matter what it's called?

Yes, if you are trying to help the cause.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306067


^^ This
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Not to be confused with Magazine (firearms).

A clip is a device that is used to store multiple rounds of ammunition together as a unit, ready for insertion into the magazine or cylinder of a firearm. This speeds up the process of loading and reloading the firearm as several rounds can be loaded at once, rather than one round being loaded at a time. Several different types of clips exist, most of which are made of inexpensive metal stampings that are designed to be disposable, though they are often re-used.
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I never knew this. They really are supposed to be called clips.
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Re: why we need 30 round clips
we need them for the same reason the government needs to kill us without trial with missiles launched from unmanned drones.
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we need them for the same reason the government needs to kill us without trial with missiles launched from unmanned drones.
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^^^^^ well said.


seems there are no gun grabbers responding to this thread.
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Re: why we need 30 round clips
why we need 30 round clips;

not that the gun grabbers will 'get it',
but they keep saying nobody can answer this, so;

1. the bad guys have them, so we should too, so we will not be out-gunned.

2. many gunfights last only a few seconds, then it is all over, all bullets expended, with one or both dead, or bad guy flees to avoid death, in way less than a minute.
there is LITERALLY NO TIME to reload, what you have in the gun is all you get to use.

3. reloading will get you killed.
while reloading, you are vulnerable.
they know this, and they will listen for it.
it is the sound of no bullets being fired.
they will try to kill you at that time.
putting in a fully loaded SPARE clip is fast, LOADING an empty clip takes WAY too much time.
better to have what you need, in the clip and ready to go, when you need it.
this is why cops, army, secret service, dea, customs, cia, fbi, etc, all carry these 'high capacity clips'.

4. shooting at someone, helps to prevent them from acurately aiming at you, and killing you.

5. there may be multiple intruders.

6. intruders may have bullet proof vests.

7. you might shoot the intruder, but hit him in a non vital spot, therefore, he is still able to shoot you.

8. you might not be the best shot in the world, so it takes you more bullets to get the job done.

9. many low level criminals do not carry lots of extra ammo, as they might need to ditch the gun in a hurry, before the crime, and they plan to ditch it after the crime, anyway, to get rid of the evidence.
having the edge on the number of bullets, greatly increases your chances of living.

10. ten bullets, 'a reasonable first step'.
piers morgan said many times that limiting clip size to 10 rounds was 'a reasonable first step';
so;

what is the 'second step' ????
revolvers only, only 6 shots ??

what is the 'third step' ????
bolt action, fire one shot, then reload one bullet ??

11. bad guys can use doorways, corners, etc., for cover, making them hard to hit.

12. when seconds count, the cops are MINUTES away.

13. if it is not a short gunfight,
it will be a long one,
and that is where it is really is important to not run out of bullets.

.
WHEN YOU HAVE A BABY;
you have to 'baby proof' your house, locking all the dangerous things away, so the baby will be safe, as it moves around freely.

THAT IS WHAT 'GUN CONTROL' IS; only for PSYCHOS.

they want to make the entire country safe for the FUCKING PSYCHOS to WALK FREELY AMONG US.

INSTEAD OF LOCKING UP THE PSYCHOS,

WE HAVE 'FREE RANGE' PSYCHOS.

the doctor just gives them a prescription for a bottle of pills,
and sends them on their way,
with no guarantee they will take the pills,
or that the pill is even the RIGHT pill for what ails him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33443012


14. bears (very tough)

15. boars (tough and travel in groups)

16. alligators

17. panthers / cougars / mountain lions

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