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Part of the Obama Affordable Care Act has been withheld from us!!!!!!!!!

 
Weltsmertz

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How does one go about signing up for this 0bama care???
Seems there's been a take over of health care, but NO CARE involved.. Shouldn't there be some sort of policy, something 'we the people' get?
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"WE" get the BILL
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I looked into it, the exchanges won't be set up until October. then we all can begin to pick, find out how much tax credit we will get toward out insurance if any, find out what the government 'recommends', see if we will be forced to buy the plan from work, if one is offered. We will all have to decide before 2014 starts, then let the penalties and chaos begin!

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Last Edited by Weltsmertz on 02/01/2013 03:39 PM
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time to storm the white house and steal back our land
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See the whole thing is backasswards.. these new imports should be paying for american's health care.
Not the people who's people who build this country, our people already paid.. we've been paying.. It's time for some of the newbies to carry the load.. just think of the savings if these people had a tax on them, where they paid into a policy that covered REAL AMERICANS health care? Solve a lot of problems...
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A simple google search for "section 1402(g)(1) of the internal revenue code" and I found the section quite easily:

[link to www.law.cornell.edu]

(g) Members of certain religious faiths
(1) Exemption
Any individual may file an application (in such form and manner, and with such official, as may be prescribed by regulations under this chapter) for an exemption from the tax imposed by this chapter if he is a member of a recognized religious sect or division thereof and is an adherent of established tenets or teachings of such sect or division by reason of which he is conscientiously opposed to acceptance of the benefits of any private or public insurance which makes payments in the event of death, disability, old-age, or retirement or makes payments toward the cost of, or provides services for, medical care (including the benefits of any insurance system established by the Social Security Act). Such exemption may be granted only if the application contains or is accompanied by—
(A) such evidence of such individual’s membership in, and adherence to the tenets or teachings of, the sect or division thereof as the Secretary may require for purposes of determining such individual’s compliance with the preceding sentence, and
(B) his waiver of all benefits and other payments under titles II and XVIII of the Social Security Act on the basis of his wages and self-employment income as well as all such benefits and other payments to him on the basis of the wages and self-employment income of any other person,
and only if the Commissioner of Social Security finds that—
(C) such sect or division thereof has the established tenets or teachings referred to in the preceding sentence,
(D) it is the practice, and has been for a period of time which he deems to be substantial, for members of such sect or division thereof to make provision for their dependent members which in his judgment is reasonable in view of their general level of living, and
(E) such sect or division thereof has been in existence at all times since December 31, 1950.
 Quoting: chaakin


This is 26 USC 1402 of the Internal Revenue Service tax code. The 1402 in the Healthcare bill is referring to section 1402 of THE PATIENT PROTECTION AND AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, NOT THE IRS CODE. If you can prove otherwise i'd like to see it, until then the distinction is not clear.
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oh for cripes sake, THIS IS THE MUSLIM EXEMPTION. please don't act like you didn't know this was in there.


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time to storm the white house and steal back our land
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im joking. cant steal something already stolen. that would be double wrong. i like the prez. he seems cool though. just have to adjust to these changes and QUIT YER BITCHIN'!
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time to storm the white house and steal back our land
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im joking. cant steal something already stolen. that would be double wrong. i like the prez. he seems cool though. just have to adjust to these changes and QUIT YER BITCHIN'!
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when you start payin' we'll stop bitchin'
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A simple google search for "section 1402(g)(1) of the internal revenue code" and I found the section quite easily:

[link to www.law.cornell.edu]

(g) Members of certain religious faiths
(1) Exemption
Any individual may file an application (in such form and manner, and with such official, as may be prescribed by regulations under this chapter) for an exemption from the tax imposed by this chapter if he is a member of a recognized religious sect or division thereof and is an adherent of established tenets or teachings of such sect or division by reason of which he is conscientiously opposed to acceptance of the benefits of any private or public insurance which makes payments in the event of death, disability, old-age, or retirement or makes payments toward the cost of, or provides services for, medical care (including the benefits of any insurance system established by the Social Security Act). Such exemption may be granted only if the application contains or is accompanied by—
(A) such evidence of such individual’s membership in, and adherence to the tenets or teachings of, the sect or division thereof as the Secretary may require for purposes of determining such individual’s compliance with the preceding sentence, and
(B) his waiver of all benefits and other payments under titles II and XVIII of the Social Security Act on the basis of his wages and self-employment income as well as all such benefits and other payments to him on the basis of the wages and self-employment income of any other person,
and only if the Commissioner of Social Security finds that—
(C) such sect or division thereof has the established tenets or teachings referred to in the preceding sentence,
(D) it is the practice, and has been for a period of time which he deems to be substantial, for members of such sect or division thereof to make provision for their dependent members which in his judgment is reasonable in view of their general level of living, and
(E) such sect or division thereof has been in existence at all times since December 31, 1950.
 Quoting: chaakin


In other words, those of the Muslim faith are exempt from Obamacare.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9107938


Meaning they get it FREE. They don't have to pay into the system, they also don't get fined for not having any insurance, but are 100% covered by it..
This has been brought up before, but no one seemed to really 'get it.' Oh and the 50 or so Amish are also covered, but don't believe they even use any kind government health care system..
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Hm yes, I guess that's right.

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A simple google search for "section 1402(g)(1) of the internal revenue code" and I found the section quite easily:

[link to www.law.cornell.edu]

(g) Members of certain religious faiths
(1) Exemption
Any individual may file an application (in such form and manner, and with such official, as may be prescribed by regulations under this chapter) for an exemption from the tax imposed by this chapter if he is a member of a recognized religious sect or division thereof and is an adherent of established tenets or teachings of such sect or division by reason of which he is conscientiously opposed to acceptance of the benefits of any private or public insurance which makes payments in the event of death, disability, old-age, or retirement or makes payments toward the cost of, or provides services for, medical care (including the benefits of any insurance system established by the Social Security Act). Such exemption may be granted only if the application contains or is accompanied by—
(A) such evidence of such individual’s membership in, and adherence to the tenets or teachings of, the sect or division thereof as the Secretary may require for purposes of determining such individual’s compliance with the preceding sentence, and
(B) his waiver of all benefits and other payments under titles II and XVIII of the Social Security Act on the basis of his wages and self-employment income as well as all such benefits and other payments to him on the basis of the wages and self-employment income of any other person,
and only if the Commissioner of Social Security finds that—
(C) such sect or division thereof has the established tenets or teachings referred to in the preceding sentence,
(D) it is the practice, and has been for a period of time which he deems to be substantial, for members of such sect or division thereof to make provision for their dependent members which in his judgment is reasonable in view of their general level of living, and
(E) such sect or division thereof has been in existence at all times since December 31, 1950.
 Quoting: chaakin


In other words, those of the Muslim faith are exempt from Obamacare.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9107938


Meaning they get it FREE. They don't have to pay into the system, they also don't get fined for not having any insurance, but are 100% covered by it..
This has been brought up before, but no one seemed to really 'get it.' Oh and the 50 or so Amish are also covered, but don't believe they even use any kind government health care system..
 Quoting: ceawaves


5a

I do not believe that the Muslims get FREE health care as a result of this exemption. I would think it is just the opposite. They do not participate and they do not get. It is like opting out of something.
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what about an ordained minister of the universal life church?
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Because it pertains to Muslims only.
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DISCRIMINATION!!! Bastards I tell ya!
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time to storm the white house and steal back our land
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im joking. cant steal something already stolen. that would be double wrong. i like the prez. he seems cool though. just have to adjust to these changes and QUIT YER BITCHIN'!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27212091


when you start payin' we'll stop bitchin'
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA cry much?
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A simple google search for "section 1402(g)(1) of the internal revenue code" and I found the section quite easily:

[link to www.law.cornell.edu]

(g) Members of certain religious faiths
(1) Exemption
Any individual may file an application (in such form and manner, and with such official, as may be prescribed by regulations under this chapter) for an exemption from the tax imposed by this chapter if he is a member of a recognized religious sect or division thereof and is an adherent of established tenets or teachings of such sect or division by reason of which he is conscientiously opposed to acceptance of the benefits of any private or public insurance which makes payments in the event of death, disability, old-age, or retirement or makes payments toward the cost of, or provides services for, medical care (including the benefits of any insurance system established by the Social Security Act). Such exemption may be granted only if the application contains or is accompanied by—
(A) such evidence of such individual’s membership in, and adherence to the tenets or teachings of, the sect or division thereof as the Secretary may require for purposes of determining such individual’s compliance with the preceding sentence, and
(B) his waiver of all benefits and other payments under titles II and XVIII of the Social Security Act on the basis of his wages and self-employment income as well as all such benefits and other payments to him on the basis of the wages and self-employment income of any other person,
and only if the Commissioner of Social Security finds that—
(C) such sect or division thereof has the established tenets or teachings referred to in the preceding sentence,
(D) it is the practice, and has been for a period of time which he deems to be substantial, for members of such sect or division thereof to make provision for their dependent members which in his judgment is reasonable in view of their general level of living, and
(E) such sect or division thereof has been in existence at all times since December 31, 1950.
 Quoting: chaakin


In other words, those of the Muslim faith are exempt from Obamacare.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9107938


Meaning they get it FREE. They don't have to pay into the system, they also don't get fined for not having any insurance, but are 100% covered by it..
This has been brought up before, but no one seemed to really 'get it.' Oh and the 50 or so Amish are also covered, but don't believe they even use any kind government health care system..
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we were screaming about this BEFORE the last election, but shit we called bigots and liars. all those bummer supporters thought he was soooooo cool and voted for him anyway.
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time to storm the white house and steal back our land
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27212091


im joking. cant steal something already stolen. that would be double wrong. i like the prez. he seems cool though. just have to adjust to these changes and QUIT YER BITCHIN'!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27212091


when you start payin' we'll stop bitchin'
 Quoting: davvi

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA cry much?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27212091


:fsl:
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A simple google search for "section 1402(g)(1) of the internal revenue code" and I found the section quite easily:

[link to www.law.cornell.edu]

(g) Members of certain religious faiths
(1) Exemption
Any individual may file an application (in such form and manner, and with such official, as may be prescribed by regulations under this chapter) for an exemption from the tax imposed by this chapter if he is a member of a recognized religious sect or division thereof and is an adherent of established tenets or teachings of such sect or division by reason of which he is conscientiously opposed to acceptance of the benefits of any private or public insurance which makes payments in the event of death, disability, old-age, or retirement or makes payments toward the cost of, or provides services for, medical care (including the benefits of any insurance system established by the Social Security Act). Such exemption may be granted only if the application contains or is accompanied by—
(A) such evidence of such individual’s membership in, and adherence to the tenets or teachings of, the sect or division thereof as the Secretary may require for purposes of determining such individual’s compliance with the preceding sentence, and
(B) his waiver of all benefits and other payments under titles II and XVIII of the Social Security Act on the basis of his wages and self-employment income as well as all such benefits and other payments to him on the basis of the wages and self-employment income of any other person,
and only if the Commissioner of Social Security finds that—
(C) such sect or division thereof has the established tenets or teachings referred to in the preceding sentence,
(D) it is the practice, and has been for a period of time which he deems to be substantial, for members of such sect or division thereof to make provision for their dependent members which in his judgment is reasonable in view of their general level of living, and
(E) such sect or division thereof has been in existence at all times since December 31, 1950.
 Quoting: chaakin


In other words, those of the Muslim faith are exempt from Obamacare.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9107938


WINNER! WINNER! CHICKEN DINNER!
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Because it pertains to Muslims only.
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Well slap my ass and call me Mohammad!

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A simple google search for "section 1402(g)(1) of the internal revenue code" and I found the section quite easily:

[link to www.law.cornell.edu]

(g) Members of certain religious faiths
(1) Exemption
Any individual may file an application (in such form and manner, and with such official, as may be prescribed by regulations under this chapter) for an exemption from the tax imposed by this chapter if he is a member of a recognized religious sect or division thereof and is an adherent of established tenets or teachings of such sect or division by reason of which he is conscientiously opposed to acceptance of the benefits of any private or public insurance which makes payments in the event of death, disability, old-age, or retirement or makes payments toward the cost of, or provides services for, medical care (including the benefits of any insurance system established by the Social Security Act). Such exemption may be granted only if the application contains or is accompanied by—
(A) such evidence of such individual’s membership in, and adherence to the tenets or teachings of, the sect or division thereof as the Secretary may require for purposes of determining such individual’s compliance with the preceding sentence, and
(B) his waiver of all benefits and other payments under titles II and XVIII of the Social Security Act on the basis of his wages and self-employment income as well as all such benefits and other payments to him on the basis of the wages and self-employment income of any other person,
and only if the Commissioner of Social Security finds that—
(C) such sect or division thereof has the established tenets or teachings referred to in the preceding sentence,
(D) it is the practice, and has been for a period of time which he deems to be substantial, for members of such sect or division thereof to make provision for their dependent members which in his judgment is reasonable in view of their general level of living, and
(E) such sect or division thereof has been in existence at all times since December 31, 1950.
 Quoting: chaakin


In other words, those of the Muslim faith are exempt from Obamacare.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9107938


Meaning they get it FREE. They don't have to pay into the system, they also don't get fined for not having any insurance, but are 100% covered by it..
This has been brought up before, but no one seemed to really 'get it.' Oh and the 50 or so Amish are also covered, but don't believe they even use any kind government health care system..
 Quoting: ceawaves


5a

I do not believe that the Muslims get FREE health care as a result of this exemption. I would think it is just the opposite. They do not participate and they do not get. It is like opting out of something.
 Quoting: ANNONYMOUS 8415236


they still get sick and they will still need doctors and they will not pay for them so how is that an "opt-out"?
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Of course most of us have heard of this so called "religious exemption" that the Obama Healthcare travesty has mentioned. Inside of the bill, it is mentioned first in Chapter 48, Section 5000A, (d)(2)(A) RELIGIOUS EXEMPTIONS:

‘‘(2) RELIGIOUS EXEMPTIONS.—
‘‘(A) RELIGIOUS CONSCIENCE EXEMPTION.—Such term
shall not include any individual for any month if such
individual has in effect an exemption under section
1311(d)(4)(H) of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care
Act which certifies that such individual is a member of
a recognized religious sect or division thereof described
in section 1402(g)(1) and an adherent of established tenets
or teachings of such sect or division as described in such
section.

You see that it specifically references 1402(g)(1) of the Healthcare bill. However , a search for this particular section of law ( [link to www.gpo.gov] PAGE 105) ENDS AT F(3)!!!! There is no 1402(g)!!!!!!!!!!

WHY IS THIS PORTION OF THE BILL THAT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT BEING HIDDEN??????
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Of course most of us have heard of this so called "religious exemption" that the Obama Healthcare travesty has mentioned. Inside of the bill, it is mentioned first in Chapter 48, Section 5000A, (d)(2)(A) RELIGIOUS EXEMPTIONS:

‘‘(2) RELIGIOUS EXEMPTIONS.—
‘‘(A) RELIGIOUS CONSCIENCE EXEMPTION.—Such term
shall not include any individual for any month if such
individual has in effect an exemption under section
1311(d)(4)(H) of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care
Act which certifies that such individual is a member of
a recognized religious sect or division thereof described
in section 1402(g)(1) and an adherent of established tenets
or teachings of such sect or division as described in such
section.

You see that it specifically references 1402(g)(1) of the Healthcare bill. However , a search for this particular section of law ( [link to www.gpo.gov] PAGE 105) ENDS AT F(3)!!!! There is no 1402(g)!!!!!!!!!!

WHY IS THIS PORTION OF THE BILL THAT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT BEING HIDDEN??????
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Because the system is corrupted beyond redemption.
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Because it pertains to Muslims only.
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And who wrote it? Allies of the Muslim Brotherhood.
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Correct on both counts.
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I WILL NOT PAY
I WILL NOT COMPLY
FUCK THE NWO
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The part that was withheld from us was the AFFORDABLE part.
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Watch this and you will know why they pushed it thought at any cost...remember they lost the election over pushing health care though

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I watched it and I am aware of it. Reagan was the President of Actor's guild and he was himself an Actor. What he did, I don't have any respect for him. You must understand abuse of any system eventually hits the limits sustenance. All you have to look at the socialized health systems of the world. Michael moor covered it real good in his documentary. I watched it and you should watch it too. If you don't trust Michael Moor, then ask people in France, Britain, Germany and Cuba. Technology has made it possible to reach out and ask these questions then to trust the Agents of Republicans. Right now affordable care does not look good but time will tell that we needed it.
Insurance and Pharmaceutical cabal spent millions if not Billions through Chamber of Commerce to defeat it. I wish I can find it to reference is here.
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I WILL NOT PAY
I WILL NOT COMPLY
FUCK THE NWO
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Amen. The most that will come of non-compliance will be a STRONGLY WORDED LETTER.
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People, you are just not getting it...they want to outlaw Christianity.
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A simple google search for "section 1402(g)(1) of the internal revenue code" and I found the section quite easily:

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(g) Members of certain religious faiths
(1) Exemption
Any individual may file an application (in such form and manner, and with such official, as may be prescribed by regulations under this chapter) for an exemption from the tax imposed by this chapter if he is a member of a recognized religious sect or division thereof and is an adherent of established tenets or teachings of such sect or division by reason of which he is conscientiously opposed to acceptance of the benefits of any private or public insurance which makes payments in the event of death, disability, old-age, or retirement or makes payments toward the cost of, or provides services for, medical care (including the benefits of any insurance system established by the Social Security Act). Such exemption may be granted only if the application contains or is accompanied by—
(A) such evidence of such individual’s membership in, and adherence to the tenets or teachings of, the sect or division thereof as the Secretary may require for purposes of determining such individual’s compliance with the preceding sentence, and
(B) his waiver of all benefits and other payments under titles II and XVIII of the Social Security Act on the basis of his wages and self-employment income as well as all such benefits and other payments to him on the basis of the wages and self-employment income of any other person,
and only if the Commissioner of Social Security finds that—
(C) such sect or division thereof has the established tenets or teachings referred to in the preceding sentence,
(D) it is the practice, and has been for a period of time which he deems to be substantial, for members of such sect or division thereof to make provision for their dependent members which in his judgment is reasonable in view of their general level of living, and
(E) such sect or division thereof has been in existence at all times since December 31, 1950.
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Cornell (who's database is often used but it is often incorrect) is not the keeper of government records.

The pdf in the OP is the authenticated document. It wanted to reach back for some information upon opening it. Either signitures or further verification. I blocked it so I do not know.

But the OP is correct. Its not in there.

Is it because it is unconstitutional? Or something else.
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Watch this and you will know why they pushed it thought at any cost...remember they lost the election over pushing health care though

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